From a reader here:
According to Mike's Testmony page @ ESN, both Craig Winters and his wife Colleen have been disfellowshipped as of Oct.2021 After being under his thumb for a few years (20 yrs ago), I'm not surprised. He was a 'piece of work' even back then! When I left the PCG, He disfellowshipped my whole family by phone from a campout in Cali. He disfellowshipped my middle son (who was unbaptized) for writing an email to a girl in South Africa who was 'in rebellion,' and then he disfellowshipped my 22 yr old handicapped son (also unbaptized), because "God can't use a handicapped person," and also said that my youngest son was too young to attend on his own (as if!) - - - he then told my wife that she had to divorce me since I had left the Flurry cult. When she refused to divorce, he disfellowshipped her as well. and then he finished his phone call with "there, that's the last of you!" What unmitigated gall that idiot had ....
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The audacity of these self-righteous abusive ministers in the COG is appalling. None of them, and I repeat NONE OF THEM have the power to disfellowship a person from the church or to separate them from Christ. This is all done for power and not for any "spiritual discernment" They are liars if they say otherwise.
It's common ploy for abusive cults to disfellowship a certain percentage of their members for no other reason than to intimidate the rest into blind obedience.
Well, there's your church, PCG members! What an awesome wife Mike has. She surely made the best possible choice, didn't she?
There have been a number of comments here lately disparaging ‘Banned’ as anti cog Christian etc etc.
This is why it exists, to expose the behaviour of those who claim to represent Christ, and to provide that information to a much wider audience as possible, as a warning.
It’s called freedom of speech, and a forum such as this is important. Darkness hates the light and hates exposure.
As such this blog fills provides an important service. Thank you for this post and keep on holding these groups accountable.
"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword".
Matthew 26:52
The Winters left the PCG over a year ago, they were just recently “marked”.
I suppose as difficult as it was to be abused like that, it was good because it got you out of the cult.
You are quite right, 1:16. I get it, I really do! From these charlatan-leaders' perspectives, wouldn't it be nice if Armstrong-geddon suddenly happened, and everyone was simply dead, with no responsibility and no accountability other than "He who dies with the most toys (the charlatan-leaders) wins? Why can't the people in the ACOGs see what is being done to them, and I mean really see, so that they no longer allow their leaders to conscript and misuses their blessings???
Herbert W. Armstrong and David C. Pack are mentioned in the Bible
So is Gerald Flurry……. They are noted in the Bible as false prophets.
True Christian:
We should ignore you, but looking to be enlighten by you. Please, point out, what texts of the bible, mentions HWA and DCP.? Not that I would believe you, but just curious.
Not sure about Pack other than in a general sense, but HWA is surely the false foolish minister mentioned in Zech. 11.
Follow the traits mentioned in Zech.11:15 to 17.
Zec 11:15 And YAHWEH said to me, Again take to yourself the tools of a foolish shepherd.
Zec 11:16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land; he shall not visit those who are cut off, nor will he seek the young, nor will he heal that which is broken, nor will he sustain that which stands. But he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear off their hoofs.
Zec 11:17 Woe to the worthless shepherd who abandons the flock! The sword shall be against his arm and against his right eye. His arm shall be completely withered, and his right eye shall be totally darkened.
Is the name "True Christian" a self-evaluation. If so, on what is it based? Imbibing of and following the HWAcaca?
Actually, It's better to leave others decide based on how you live your life whether or not you are a true Christian. We as humans are flawed in our self-evaluations. We inflate or diminish in a very myopic or biased manner.
True Christian:
1 Cor 10:12--
Therefore let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he fall.
True Christian could be a troll or an fake to stir up trouble. Alot of trouble stirring goes on.
I was inspired by True Christian and Anonymous about Herbert Armstrong, Dave Pack, and Gerald Flurry being mention directly in the bible. So I began a search.
I found it. They are mentioned and directions given on how to respond to them. It is in Deuteronomy 18: 20 through 22.
Well, not by name, only by their deeds.
Sweetblood, Vaughn, and 12.26am, got my 10 points. Waiting for True Christian to respond. Shall he? Would he?
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