Friday, May 24, 2013

Dave Pack Says COG Members of Other Groups Are Unclean

Dave Pack Says  COG Members of Other Groups Are Unclean

Dave Pack is back with his weekly message to the apostate whores in all the various splinter groups,  Today he starts off by telling COG members that they are unclean as long as they follow the splinter group leaders and evangelists.  He particularly despises UCG, COGWA, LCG and PCG.  Of course these are the four major COG's that take millions of dollars in tithe money away from Dave's pockets.


God now also calls “this people” a “nation.” I Peter 2:9 describes God’s Church as a “holy nation.” Verse 14 is a powerful summary statement about the remnant’s prior condition—when they were abiding in their own “houses.” This was a condition that the ministry played a large role in bringing about. God describes His people as “unclean,” including “EVERY work of their hands” and “that which they offer” in the period before they were brought back to His Church. But why does God say this to His people?

The large splinters have slowly come to resemble the world’s churches much more than God’s Church. This is true of standards, appearance, doctrines and behavior—their degeneration in all these areas is truly across the board! The members of these groups cannot see where their leaders have either led them—or stepped out of the way like a matador and permitted them to go. The United Church of God and the Church of God, a Worldwide Association are the worst, but no longer by much. The Living Church of God over time worked hard to successfully close the gap. The Philadelphia Church of God is another matter altogether, having additional problems on top of what is described here. Having become so blind in the Laodicean age, these organizations cannot see their collective degenerate and worsening condition. They have grown absolutely oblivious to what GOD sees.

We saw in an earlier part that this group of Christians is cut off from Christ and the Father. (Read “God’s People Back Together—SOON!” if you have not done so.) Therefore, what they are producing and “offering” cannot be guided by Almighty God and the living Jesus Christ, Who is NOT the Head of their organizations. As a result, no matter their feelings telling them otherwise, their fruits are simply works of men—all unclean. A series of New Testament verses clarifies what the people knowingly chose or were permitted to unwittingly “fall into,” bringing this uncleanness.

Gerald Flurry: God Reveals The Most Startling Prophecy To Me Ever - There's A WHIRLWIND BUTT COMING!




Here’s one definition of that word, that “whirlwind.” It says: “Sweep away,” 
but a better definition is: 
“WHIRL away.” It just WHIRLS away!


Gerald Flurry has always been known to be several watts short of bright, but this article by him from May 1st shows just how delusional his mind works.

Gerald starts out his video by telling his viewers on the PCG has been predicting that Germany was going to invade Iran and conquer it.  It was more speculation than anything else.  Now, Lord Six-Pack has had revealed to him the most astounding revelation regarding Germany.  Even God's most superfantabulous Dave Pack is willfully ignorant on this prophecy.  Poor Dave, he's been made a fool of again!

Transcript here.
Greetings, everyone. We have taught for about twenty years that Germany was going to conquer Iran and its allies (or radical Islam), but we’ve never taught you HOW it wasgoing to happen, and today we’re going to do THAT. We’re going to show you HOW it’sgoing to happen because UNTIL now, we never taught you THAT. The Bible reveals how it’s going to be done.

So how did Six Pack get to this magnificent discovery?   Supposedly his god revealed to him the meaning of the "one" word in Daniel.

Now, there’s just one little word in a prophecy of Daniel that shows us HOW it will happen. Now, Germany has had a decade or more to prepare for this clash that they have expected to come. They believed it would someday come, and this prophetic word tells you HOW they’re going to come against Iran and radical Islam and how they’re going to destroy them, and it’s one of the most startling prophecies, in a word, that I think I have ever had revealed to me. But I want you to think about this and think about this prophecy that we’ve covered so many times.
But it is just one prophetic word and yet it reveals the STRATEGY that Germany is going to use, and they’ve almost completed that strategy ALREADY. It’s a strategy that is I think a MASTERFUL stroke by the German people, who are very strategy-minded and love to prepare for battle when they think there’s a war. But also I’m going to show you FACTS from a map that REVEALS this strategy so clearly that is prophesied in the book of Daniel. It’s right there in your Bible, and this one word reveals a lot more than we have  realized in the past.
The most startling prophecy, in a word, is actually a word. That magical word is "whirlwind."

No, I am not talking about the tornado that recently struck Edmond, OK because they have allowed a cult in their midst.  This is a whirlwind from Scripture that Six Pack has interpreted to be Germany.  That whirlwind is circling helicopters, planes,and ships.

Notice verse 40 of Daniel 11. “And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind,” LIKE a whirlwind, “with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships;” MANY ships, air and sea, “and he shall enter into the countries,” plural, “and shall overflow and pass over.” So they come at them like a FLOOD against Iran and their allies. So it’s a HUGE attack; it’s not some SMALL attack, and obviously it would have had to be PLANNED very meticulously for them to IMPLEMENT this plan. But it’s LIKE a whirlwind. It is a  military attack, but the emphasis is on the STRATEGY; it comes at this radical Islam LIKE A WHIRLWIND, like a whirlwind. It is a VERY revealing word if you look into it
carefully

Six Pack wants you to know that HE, and he alone, knows exactly how Germany will conquer Iran.  He knows it in MASSIVE DETAIL!

Now, this reveals to you what is going to happen in the very near future because this plan is almost completed, and I’m going to just map it out for you and let you see what is happening and how it is all prophesied in such detail that it’s just SHOCKING! It is truly SHOCKING if you understand these prophecies, and if you don’t, we certainly have material that we will give you and it costs you absolutely nothing. We want you to have access to these prophecies so that you KNOW what is about to happen in this end time.  It’s all prophesied in MASSIVE DETAIL

So I’ll show you a map today that will illustrate something that I know you’ve never seen before, and you need to keep it in your mind because it IS telling you what kind of a future we’re going to have and how it’s ALMOST upon us. Because that CLASH between Germany and Iran is going to TRIGGER World War III. It is that significant!  Notice what the word “whirlwind”—Gesenius Lexicon, what it says about it: “To sweep away in a storm, terror-stricken,” it’s really something that strikes great terror in MANY, many people, and it says they “shiver with fear.” Another one says: “The creeping of the skin of a person terror-stricken.”
BUT there’s more to it that you need to see here. Let me read to you the Moffat
translation of that verse 40: “When the end arrives, the king of the south shall BUTT at him, but the king of the north shall STORM at him like a WHIRLWIND.” All of them say it’s like a whirlwind, “with chariots and cavalry and large fleet, air and sea, and invading his lands and flooding into them,” just FLOODING into them, “like a whirlwind,” it’s whirling round and round and round, and that is the SIGNIFICANCE of this if you understand it fully. I mean this is a carefully-planned strategy, and Iran and its allies are caught up INSIDE a whirlwind, and you know how a whirlwind whirls round and round and round.

Skipping a lot of sheer stupidity you coemto this as justification that Germany is goignto invade Iran:

Well, they have 4400 soldiers, roughly, in Afghanistan. And why would they want to keep those soldiers there? Well, Afghanistan JOINS Iran on its eastern border. To the Germans, that is a very STRATEGIC area because they’re thinking WHIRLWIND, they’re thinking about a circular attack on Iran and its allies. Let’s be honest. If things build to that, and they feel confident they will. I mean anybody with a little common sense knows that nothing’s going to stop Iran but war! Just look at the way they conduct themselves! A little power by comparison, and yet they’re terrorizing the world in many ways. Nobody’s going to stop that unless they can stop their military.

So you can see on this map how that Iran and its allies are SURROUNDED. They’re surrounded! And that’s the ONLY REASON and the ONLY WAY that Germany and the Holy Roman Empire could come against them like a WHIRLWIND! I mean on every SIDE it’s just a WHIRLING DEVASTATION of violence and bloodshed, and frankly, Iran won’t have a chance. They may think they do, but they won’t because this is ALL a carefully-laid plan that’s going to shock the world. But we’ve just been following the history of Germany throughout the years and telling people what was going to happen in this end time. And it is happening!

And let me just read you one last quote and show you what they're doing today. This is from a secret meeting the military was having, and I believe it’s in Cologne, Germany. I’m pretty sure that’s where it was, but the germanforeignpolicy.com reports that the secret meeting was held under the title of International Symposium on Ballistics, and “dealt with explosives and projectiles, as well as armoring.” Media representatives were refused access to the Urban Congress Center under threat of using force. I mean, they told the media, “OK, you come in here, we’re going to use force. You don’t come in here!
Stay out of here!” Now, this is what an intelligence unit says INSIDE their own country!

That’s how close this is and how urgent this prophecy is. And we need to look into our Bibles and see that all of this IS leading to wonderful news of hope and joy. That’s terrific!
Yep, blood, guts, death and destruction certainly does bring joy and hope to Armstrongism.  Without the bloodshed the belief system cannot be validated.

Thursday, May 23, 2013

Bob Thiel: Because of God's Mercy He Kills and Maims With Tornadoes



Bob Thiel, the non-ordained self-appointed false prophet, has went to great lengths today to point out that his vengeful god truly does delight in killing, maiming and destroy with tornadoes.

Bob started out with:

While the terms ‘tornado’ and ‘cyclone’ are not in the NKJV, KJV, or the DRB (Douay Rheims Bible), some translations of the Bible (like THE MESSAGE) do use them, and those that do not tend to use the term ‘whirlwind,’ which is basically what a tornado/cyclone is.
The Bible shows that whirlwinds are one of the forms of weather that God controls:
3 The Lord is slow to anger and great in power,
And will not at all acquit the wicked.
The Lord has His way
In the whirlwind and in the storm,
And the clouds are the dust of His feet. (Nahum 1:3)
God teaches that because of disobedience He will scatter people and use a whirlwind:
8 Then the word of the Lord came to Zechariah, saying, 9 “Thus says the Lord of hosts:
‘Execute true justice,
Show mercy and compassion
Everyone to his brother.
10 Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless,
The alien or the poor.
Let none of you plan evil in his heart
Against his brother.’
11 But they refused to heed, shrugged their shoulders, and stopped their ears so that they could not hear. 12 Yes, they made their hearts like flint, refusing to hear the law and the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets. Thus great wrath came from the Lord of hosts. 13 Therefore it happened, that just as He proclaimed and they would not hear, so they called out and I would not listen,” says the Lord of hosts. 14 “But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations which they had not known. Thus the land became desolate after them, so that no one passed through or returned; for they made the pleasant land desolate.” (Zechariah 7:8-14)
21 A cyclone sweeps them up — gone!
Not a trace of them left, not even a footprint.
22 Catastrophes relentlessly pursue them;
they run this way and that, but there’s no place to hide

He then has to drag in British Israelism into his brewing pot:

The following is telling of a time when at least some of the descendents of Ephraim (currently dominating lands such as the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) will face a major destruction from a tornado:
5 Even though Ephraim ran wild,
the black sheep of the family.
“God’s tornado is on its way,
roaring out of the desert.
It will devastate the country,
leaving a trail of ruin and wreckage.
The cities will be gutted,
dear possessions gone for good.
16 Now Samaria has to face the charges
because she has rebelled against her God:
Her people will be killed, babies smashed on the rocks,
pregnant women ripped open.
(Hosea 13:15-16, THE MESSAGE)
 Bob particularly likes vs. 16 in hte above quote from The Message.  He takes delight in  babies smashed against the rocks and pregnant women ripped open.  He can't talk about Jesus but loves to quote his vengeful god by somehow tying the USA into the above Scripture.  Oh yeah, I forgot,  its British Israelism so it is 100% fact.

In the above, notice that Samaria is also affected. This seems to be a reference to the ‘melting pot’ of the USA (Samaria was a melting pot mixture of Babylonians and Israelites).

Then, he ties his invading German armies into taking citizens of he USA to Germany as slaves:

7 “They sow the wind,
And reap the whirlwind.
The stalk has no bud;
It shall never produce meal.
If it should produce,
Aliens would swallow it up.
8 Israel is swallowed up;
Now they are among the Gentiles
Like a vessel in which is no pleasure.
9 For they have gone up to Assyria,
Like a wild donkey alone by itself;
Ephraim has hired lovers. (Hosea 8:6-9)
The passage in Hosea 8 is clearly referring to the descendents of Israel, including Ephraim and Samaria. Notice that they are among the Gentiles and some go to Assyria (end time Germany). There are enough references to whirlwinds and the end time descendents of Israel that it seems like one or more major tornadoes are prophesied to affect them.
After being mocked for the last couple of days for defending his vengeful god Bob claims that the people killed by the tornadoes were not necessarily the worst sinners out there.  Though they might have had a little good, they were essentially all evil people.

Thus, though some of these passages may also have a figurative sense, major tornadoes are forecasted in biblical prophecy.

Now, does this mean that those most affected by tornadoes are necessarily worse sinners than those less affected?

The biblical answer is no.

Notice the words of Jesus:
45…He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. (Matthew 5:45)
4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Luke 13:4-5)
He ends with his always encouraging tone:

God uses weather and other events to try to get people’s attention.
God does not want people to suffer, but to turn to Him
He uses weather for correction and for His mercy (Job 37:13).
Will you heed the weather warnings?

Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Do You Realize That Armstrong Demanded 76% Of Your Income?



Over on the All About Armstrongism Blog he has up all of the expected tithes and offerings that the Worldwide Church of God expected/demanded from members.  Do you realize that if you had participated 100% in Armstrong's expectation that you would have given the Church 76% of your income?

Flurry, Meredith and the others carry on this same obscene tradition today.  The worst offender is Dave Pack who expects members to turn over all retirement programs, mortgage homes and businesses and give every last penny you have to him.

Here is what was expected of true followers:

  • First tithe – which was 10% of gross income.
  • Second tithe – which was another 10% of gross income.
  • Third tithe – which was another 10% of gross income.
  • Regular Offerings  3% of gross income
    • Holy Day offerings.  4% of gross income.
    • Emergency Fund – No percentage given.
    • Fourth Year Fruit From Trees  (I remember my mother doing this)
    • First-fruits – estimate the value and give the money to headquarters
    • Firstborn male of cattle  (I know farmers who did this)
    • Firstborn child – buy back with an offering to headquarters.
    • Building fund expectations were 4% of gross income
    • Tithe of Tithe expectations were 10% of gross income
    • Loans to the work were also expected of members (I remember when the receivership happened and Tkach and Webber stood up in the Hall of Ad and told members to mortgage their homes and businesses to help stop Satan)
    • Gifts to the Church
    • Special Emergency gifts when the Work was in trouble were also expected of members
    • Also mentioned were library funds, recreational funds, spokesman club dues, and social funds.

    Check out his entire article at the link above for much more detail on what we were conned out off.  These percentages and giving opportunities were from John Pruner's sermon.

    All of this to fund a work that was embarrassed to talk about Jesus or God.  What impact did HWA have traveling the world talking about a "strong hand from someplace?"