Friday, April 13, 2018

COG the Eternal Speaks Out on : Men wearing skirts or tight britches to chruch, Prostitute Fashion, Hair Length, Hair Coloring, Make Up, Barong's, Coveralls and More! Woo Hoo!



After Jon Brisby laid into the women of the Church of God the Eternal, it is now time to tell men how to dress.  But not too much, the focus still is mainly on the women.


Given enough time, could we eventually get to the point where it is just as acceptable for men to wear skirts and heels as it is for women? Apparently, Thom Browne wants us to have these kinds of conversations:


Gender fluidity in style is no longer a thing for only women, but men too. Thom Browne, an American designer seems to think men should embrace the trend too and rock a few pieces borrowed from the girls’. His spring summer collection presented at the ongoing Men’s Fashion Week had a slew of dress shirts, tunics, maxi dresses and skirts all worn with pointy-toe heels.


Who says what a man should and shouldn’t wear? The collection
seems to drive a conversation many of us never want to have. And, if a woman can wear a pantsuit, why can’t a man wear a skirt suit?


Why not indeed? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and so this is merely the next outlandish phase of the “unisex conspiracy” which is being foisted upon us by our spiritual enemy. This is not a trend that is likely to affect the church as much, and yet you might be surprised at how it may impact us nonetheless.
Case in point: No doubt that in other particular ancient cultures, a male skirt was once acceptable (most notably the Scots, with the Scottish kilt). But I have already seen men walking around downtown Eugene, Oregon, wearing skirts, and I can tell you they are not going for the “kilt look.” There are some men in the church in past times who have worn kilts as a novelty to highlight their family ancestries. But in today’s political climate, I highly discourage it, since to do so would easily be interpreted by many as being “gender progressive.” Are you creating an appearance of evil by the way you choose to dress (1 Thessalonians 5:22)? This is not to say that it would be inappropriate, for instance, at a Scottish cultural re-enactment gathering. But sadly, at many other times today it would easily be misconstrued. You will witness more and more of this sad transition as time goes on. There is no perversion that human beings will not justify eventually, given enough time to draw it into the mainstream. Just wait and see.
And it continues with skinny jeans and pants britches...

The next issue concerning attire—that many in the church still “don’t get”—is another distinct element defining appropriate pants. I have written about this likewise in past years, but either many have forgotten, or else my explanation was poor. Therefore, I am going to try to make my meaning very plain this time.
Tight britches should never be worn by a man or a woman in public. That means never, under any circumstance! It applies to both sexes, but according to the past trends in our societies, it has dominated in women’s fashion thus far. Here is what I wrote in that same March 2003 Announcement Letter to the church that I quoted from in December:
. . . [A]ppropriate slacks for women will never be form-fitting. (That never used
to be as much an issue for men, but in today’s society, we must admonish men
also to reject pants that are too tight.) This also sounds absurd and prudish by
today’s standards, but that is only because we have been saturated by Satan’s
perverted world for so long, we all have a tendency to accept these corruptions
now without question. Whether it is slacks, dresses, or skirts, a modest woman
of God does not wear form-fitting clothing that draws undue attention to the
body’s shape.

This guideline is automatically going to rule out 95% of all pants (especially jeans) sold for women today (not even counting the guideline against front-fly zippers). Beware also, gentlemen, of the new “skinny” styles that are popularizing very “tight” pants, even in formal wear. It has already been very prominent among homosexuals, but more recently has been mainstreamed aggressively. So both men and women in God’s church need to reject these styles.
But it is not only “traditional” slacks or jeans that need to be addressed today. Thanks to another modern trend that has exploded into prominence for women’s casual wear, we now need to say something about yoga pants and leggings.
Do you remember the “old days,” when a little girl wearing tights or leotards under her dress would be admonished by her mother if she did not keep her dress discreetly “down”? She would be told that it is not “ladylike” to let her skirt fly up and reveal her leotards underneath. How things have changed. Nowadays, those same leotards do not require any skirt at all to cover them, but are accepted by grown women to wear out in public. In other words, what used to be considered underwear is now accepted as outerwear by most women today! Lacking any sense of modesty, it’s not much different than just walking around in your pantyhose, sans skirt! How times have changed. How did we get to this point?


What is/are called “leggings” today used to be considered a lady’s “undergarment.” And yoga pants are in the very same category. In both cases, they violate the modesty rule against “form-fitting” clothes that show every contour of the body. It is simply not discreet, no matter what kind of spin you might want to put on it. Yes, being a modest woman in God’s eyes will require you to do things differently than all of the women around you. Worldly women will go running, hiking, cycling, or work out at the gym in skin-tight leggings. But they are not modest. The only question is, will you be?
 And now we get to the FUN stuff!  Prostitute fashion! Woo Hoo!

Seriously?  Has ANYONE ever seen a COG woman ANYWHERE ever, EVER dress like this?




Perhaps another lesson about the origin of our modern trends will be enlightening. I saw this article from the New York Times just a few weeks ago, and it says it all. Here are just a few excerpts from an October 27, 2017, piece entitled, It’s Always Fishnets Season Somewhere:

The very prevalence of such images [referring to the glorification of prostitutes in movies and TV shows], overworked as they may be, is a testament to their durability. It is reason enough to look more closely at a position advanced by scholars and style arbiters alike: that the clothes we wear, or might like to wear, owe a very real debt to the world’s most ancient profession . . .
Not a groundbreaking concept, exactly. “There is an untold history of the
relationship between sex workers and fashion,” said Rebecca Arnold, a fashion
historian and lecturer at the Courtauld Institute of Art in London. As fashion’s
early adopters, working women routinely took up what their respectable
contemporaries shunned as too showy, tasteless, or new.
“The dubious woman could be more outlandish in her dress, and more
experimental,” Ms. Arnold said. “She is allied with the idea of fashion as linked,
not necessarily with the avant-garde, but with the beginning of new dress trends.”

“In the disco era, fashion was inspired by drag queens and prostitutes,” said Tom
Fitzgerald, one half of Tom & Lorenzo, an opinionated fashion blog. “Fashion
is always borrowing from street wear, and it doesn’t get more street wear than
hooker.” . . .[Referencing specific examples of pop icons and actresses today who sport these styles:] What’s so compelling about these images? They hint, among other things, at invulnerability. “Designers make references to sex workers to
communicate toughness.” said James Kaliardos, a founder of Visionaire. There
is an understanding, he said, that their client can be a mother, teacher or other
professional, and still want to armor herself in fetish wear.

With this concept in mind, how much of the clothing that women in God’s church have adopted today likewise originated from prostitutes? If you think this is “over the top” dramatization, then by all means, continue to embrace every “latest fashion” that comes out, so you can be sure to “fit in.” But if there are any women in God’s church who instead desire to represent Him as proper ladies, then perhaps a different approach would be advised.


Wearing a short tunic over tight pants and knee-high, high-heeled leather boots might avoid a technical violation of the dress code principles I have already outlined, but it still screams “hooker,” rather than “lady.” Each of you must choose what “look” you are going for.
I suggest that godly women go back and reacquaint themselves with the general standard for dress that Mr. Armstrong gave to us. From The Good News magazine, September, 1962, entitled Women’s Dress Ruling, Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong wrote:
. . . in conformity with the Word of God, God’s Church encourages women to dress neatly, pleasingly, attractively within the bounds of proper modesty and good taste, and even with sufficient becoming style to express personality and individuality. God Himself expressed perfect artistry in beautiful design in nature—in the lily—the rose—beautiful trees, shrubs and plants—in prize-winning livestock—and even in the beautiful human body, when healthy and not degenerated.
Comparing women to prize winning livestock?  Seriously?


Those are guidelines for attire that have never gone out of style, and they reflect the very same principles God inspired Paul to write about to the church in the first century:
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with
shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly
array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works (1
Timothy 2:9–10).
What else is included within the principles of modesty? In general, clothing should never draw undo attention to the individual. Last year, while traveling through an airport in Frankfurt, Germany, I saw a man who certainly appeared to be wealthy, but he most assuredly was eccentric. He was wearing an expensive sports jacket, dress slacks, and high-quality leather shoes. But the dress pants (blue in color) had a print of white anchors covering them from top to bottom, the sports jacket was a gawdy neon-green color, and the expensive dress shoes were bright yellow. He was a spectacle! This is an extreme example, but perfect to make the point about modesty. It is immodest to do anything that seeks to draw attention to the self. So this includes our words, our behaviors, and yes, our choice of attire. You can adhere to every guideline for proper attire—technically, legalistically—and still have ample opportunity to violate the spirit of the law, if that is your real intent. Wear your bright yellow patent-leather shoes if you want to, but do not do so thinking you are in any way displaying godly modesty.

How would this apply in a more practical way to some of your other decisions about attire? Ladies, besides making sure you pick clothing that is truly feminine, and ladylike, also beware of clothes that are too revealing. Avoid plunging necklines, short skirts, or any other attire that may be very attractive and feminine, but still pushes the boundaries of modesty. When in doubt, leave it out! Practical guidelines? Don’t show your sternum! The sternum is the breastbone that runs down the center of your chest (the one that all of your ribs connect to). Don’t just cover your breasts, but make sure your breastbone is covered as well, and if you do that, you will be absolutely safe from the appearance of being immodest.


How about skirt lengths? The practical standard used in God’s church for decades was always “knee-length.” How do you tell that a dress or skirt is truly knee–length? While wearing it, get down on your knees, and while in that position, straighten the rest of your body fully (no slouching, meaning you are in a true “L” position). If your skirt is touching the floor, it is OK. If it is still floating above the floor, it is too short. Simple! If your dress passes this test, it means that when you sit down in it, it will still be covering the top of your knees. By the way, the deacons in our congregations will not be administering this test to ladies who attend church services. This is your responsibility before God, and you need to choose to comply with these standards for your own sake. I hope you will. (More on that later.)
Church of God deacons monitoring women's dress at church.


After you choose all of the elements of what you will wear in public, whether casual or formal, then ask yourself what image you will be creating among all who see you. Are you truly manifesting the light of Jesus Christ as a godly man or woman? That is the ultimate standard that should drive all of these apparel choices.
Now its time for hair length, the never ending story of the COG.



In keeping with God’s intent to make a strong distinction between the appearance of men and women, hair length is part of that law.


Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God (1 Corinthians 11:14–16).

How long is too long for a man, and how short is too short for a woman? To provide a practical guideline, a man’s hair should not touch the collar of his shirt (assuming a standard-collared dress shirt), and a woman’s hair should not be shorter than her collar, or even better, her neck. This is not an explicit “law,” but simply a general guideline to help you make a good decision for yourself. To make it even more understandable, your hair length and hairstyle should be such that if a stranger sees you from the back or side, even for just a fleeting moment, he should have no doubt whether you are male or female. If your appearance would make anyone do a double-take concerning your sex, something is wrong.


What about hair coloring? Coloring the hair is in the very same category as wearing makeup. Wearing makeup is not acceptable before God for His chosen people. We have ample documentation on this doctrine from Mr. Herbert Armstrong, and for more details please read our November 2002 Monthly Letter, entitled, A History of the Doctrine on Makeup in God’s Church. Suffice it to say here that coloring of the hair is no more permissible than is any other kind of makeup. Women may be more inclined to use hair color because of worldly styles, but that too has been morphing more and more to include men. God said that the gray-headed one—”hoary head”—is one to be honored (Leviticus 19:32; Proverbs 16:31). How will the people of God teach this principle to our youth if we are all coloring our hair? For those of you that have been using hair color, for how long will you continue to do it? Till you are in your 80s? Maybe just until you turn 70? How about 60? When will you finally be “too old” to be trying to make yourself look like a thirty-year-old? Eventually, even the world mocks one who takes hair dye too far. The people of God should never even start playing the game to begin with.

 Remember women, it is always better to look like this

Now we get to the meat of the matter.  Proper attire at church.  Apparently COGtE is filled with lots of poorly dressed men and women who are dressing like hookers and transvestites.  Brethren!  This has to stop!!!!!  Seriously!  How will you ever make to Petra of you dress like this?



What about proper attire for church services on Sabbaths and Holy Days? The overriding principle emphasizes we are coming into the very presence of God. If you were called before the president, prime minister, or royalty of your country, how would you dress for that meeting? Would you not wear your best? Does God—as Sovereign of the whole universe—deserve any less than we would give to human rulers on this earth? In the church, we were taught we should always wear our best to services. If that means the best we have is a pair of overalls, then that is acceptable to God, given they are clean, pressed, and well cared for. But in most cases, the people of God can afford something better for these solemn occasions. In fact, if you think you cannot afford better than a pair of overalls, please contact me and I would be very happy to help you solve your problem. There are many inexpensive solutions for those who care enough to act upon them. What guidelines should we use?

Men ordinarily should wear suits and ties (unless the standard for formal dress in your country is something different, like a barong in the Philippines). Suits and ties are the standard today in most countries for formal occasions. Over past decades, a number of men have tried to argue that suits and ties are modern inventions, and that Jesus Christ did not wear them. But the spiritual principle is that Christ wore what was customary for His time, including what was acceptable for formal occasions, as long as it did not violate any other law of God. In our day, golf shirts, polo shirts, open collars, etc. are considered casual, not formal. While the trend today is to eliminate formal wear more and more, that is one custom the church must reject.
But what about those who would say we are dressing for God, not for men? Keep in mind another important spiritual principle. “Abstain from all appearance of evil” (1Thessalonians 5:22). This tells us true Christians are accountable not only to be right in heart before God, but also to work specifically to avoid creating a negative impression in the minds of others. This does not mean we are to obsess over what someone else might think. But it does mean we are each responsible for taking into account the natural impression our actions and behaviors might leave upon others. What does that have to do with church attire? A man who resists wearing a suit and tie for other than financial constraints is willing to let others assume he feels it is OK to dress casually before God. Oh yes, it can be clarified one-on-one that this is not the intended orientation, but the very fact such explanations have to be given is evidence an appearance of evil is first being made, and then thereafter needing correction. For those who resist ties because they are uncomfortable, the solution is usually to buy a dress shirt with the correct collar size. A well-fitting collar allows one to fasten the top button without constricting the neck. A tie that is not too tight need not bind or cause real discomfort. Even a string tie would be better than no tie at all.


What about the ladies? The rules outlined above for women’s dress all apply especially to attire for church services. If one is weak—and inclined to depart from God’s standard of dress during the week—by all means, at least refrain from bringing such weakness into the church. Habits of wearing inappropriate clothes should be rooted out altogether, but let it begin by correcting our appearance when we come before God.





           

What is the proper role of the ministry in relation to all of these principles and
guidelines? I will let my comments from that same 2003 Announcement Letter suffice:
                           What about ministerial enforcement of dress standards within the church?

Decades ago, many of you may have experienced an administrative philosophy whose intent was to create a “perfect” church. While very well-meaning, real obedience is by faith—of the heart and mind—and not merely an outward appearance. If those attending services comply with the law only out of fear of the ministry—and not a heartfelt desire to please God—then God does not accept that orientation anyway, and sin still exists. So no human being—minister or otherwise—can ever create a perfect church. The results of that
misguided—howbeit earnest—goal became all too evident in its failure to produce spiritual fruits. Those who adhered to church teachings out of fear—without real faith—ultimately cast them aside when real trials surfaced. The real process of perfection is taking place in the minds of those who are willingly overcoming the carnal nature and putting on more of the mind of Jesus
Christ.




It was therefore never Mr. Raymond Cole’s approach to have deacons
scrutinizing members’ dress and militantly intercepting and confronting those who did not fully measure up. Neither should it be the laity’s role to scrutinize one another. (However, if one continues to dress questionably, wears make-up—which God despises—or engages in any other prohibited behavior, one hardly has anyone else to blame if negative attention is attracted. If we know these things are wrong, why would we bring more problems upon ourselves by insisting on bringing worldly customs into the church?) Mr. Cole spoke strongly from the pulpit God’s requirements for obedience—without holding back—and then made it the individual’s responsibility to act upon that knowledge. Certainly, if something considered blatant sin is brought into the body—having the potential to destroy the flock—that must be dealt with strongly by the ministry. But such authority has never been exercised in Church of God, The Eternal in an arbitrary or presumptuous way. This ministry seeks to give time for overcoming, as long as an attitude of rank rebellion is not being manifested. Has that orientation led
us to more and more liberality in the last twenty-eight years of our existence? No,
it has not, which is the best proof of the wisdom of that benevolent administration.
With that being said, I hope such patience and long-suffering by the ministry will not be misinterpreted as weakness or fear of confrontation. If it ever becomes apparent our long-suffering—in giving time for repentance concerning the dress of some in the church—begins to cause serious problems for the body at large, such issues will be dealt with to preserve proper peace and unity. The majority—if truly converted—should be manifesting good fruits in many ways, including personal attire. Those who are sincere will heed these instructions, not as the opinions of any man, but the literal instructions of God.

Dear friends of the common Faith, these are the principles that I have felt compelled to cover for the benefit of the whole church. I am claiming that Jesus Christ has inspired me directly to focus these two Monthly Letters on the topic. Now it is up to you to either agree with that blunt assertion, or to reject it. Please choose wisely.
Jesus Christ no more spoke this to Brisby than Christ spoke to Almost, but not arrested Bob Thiel telling him to start a new church.
 You are all much loved and appreciated for the sacrifices you have already made in your lives to try to come out of this world and to live in the example of Jesus Christ. May God grant you each to continue in that path, and to manifest even more of the light of His Way in the time you have remaining.

New COG Dating App Is Released Just In Time For Feast Match-up's


The Feast of Tabernacles is right around the corner. For singles in the church this is a good time to find you a Godly mate. So, here is a list of hot church singles seeking possible lifetime marriage.

Dale; 41 y/o former gay male been a baptized member for 9 years. After, much fasting, fervent prayer, being a member of the festival choir last year and 5 anointings he's now straight. Dale, is looking for a Godly baptized woman for possible dating and marriage. Contact 3107







Cal; a 55 y/o raised church virgin. He drinks a glass of fresh squeezed OJ everyday, gives himself a vigorous rub down with a towel after each shower, sprinkles wheatgerm on all his foods and wears loose fitting boxers. Ladies, if you speak Hebrew it's a plus, must believe in natural child birth and home schooling. Contact 6705



Donna; 49 y/o raised in God's church since 12 years of age. Baptized the last 20 years. Pros: Can quote the whole Book of Revelations by memory. Makes all her clothes. She fasts twice a week and took first place in the talent show. Cons: suffers from chronic toenail infections and UTIs. Currently on garlic treatment. Hopefully she will be off the garlic by the feast. Contact 1855


 

Lilly; 36 y/o bi-org swinger. Swings from LCG org to UCG org 2-3 times a year with family members in both orgs. Contact: 5401





 
Bill; 57 y/o widower whose wife died during natural child birth. 36 year baptized church member looking for a deeply converted homemaker to help can and preserve his 25 acre organic garden and raise his 6 children, ages 4 -16. I'll be your Abraham and you'll be my Sarah. If you're of child bearing age I don't mind raising a few more olive plants. Contact 2305




 


Linda; 41 y/o single woman. I need a man. Contact 4679





Dave; 46 y/o looking for a woman to share the blessing of his upcoming 3rd tithe year. Looking for a Proverbs 31 type gal. Must be a good cook and house cleaner and don't give me no lip. A plus if you're into the Hebrew Roots Movement. Contact: 3090

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PCG: While Some Members Struggle To Survive The PCG Elite Hire Private Chef's For NTBMO


I am a PCG member and am so disgusted by seeing this on the PCG Twitter page.  My family struggles to make ends meet because my parents send in all the extra money they have to Headquarters for the so-called end-time commision.  Then we are faced with this elitist in-your-face boasting by the elite of the church.  You can be guaranteed as soon as I head off to college I will never set foot in a COG again as long as I live! I am sick of seeing my parents suffer and the hypocrisy of the leadership at Headquarters.

Church of God the Eternal Members Are Not Happy With Recent Lectures On How To Dress Properly

Not proper

Not proper

Totally proper


For decades church members have been preached at and preached at on how to dress for church, church functions and in everyday life.  Apparently, no one in the church knew how to dress appropriately for different occasions until the ministry instructed them.  Even today in 2018, various COG leaders still feel the need to tell people how THEY feel people should be dressing.

Today's lucky winners are the members of the Church of God the Eternal.  John Brisby has let loose with a two-part tirade railing against the ineptness of COGE members ability to dress properly.

Much of what is below is direct quotes without my snarky comments, but I can't resist in certain places.

Brisby writes:
In this Monthly Letter, you are going to receive some candid thoughts about the
issue of proper attire for women and men in our faith. This topic has been addressed in a number of church letters and sermons in past years, but it is past due to be covered again. And to make the points as strongly as possible, I am departing from the usual protocol of writing in the third-person in order to admonish all of you in a very direct and personal way.

There is virtually no topic that can spur an emotional response in the church faster than that of proper dress for women and men, including both casual and formal attire. It was always a controversial topic in our parent organization, but it became even more so in this remnant body from the mid-1970s onward. Why? The 1970s saw some of the most radical changes in dress styles away from godly principles, and at the same time, our parent church became very lax and permissive. Simultaneously, church members were losing their willingness to be teachable, hardening themselves to any instruction they did not fancy. The combination of ever-increasing degeneracy in worldly fashions and a hardening of the laity against inspired correction created the perfect environment for confrontation. And even as much as this ministry has attempted to teach and to
guide in loving benevolence, we have certainly felt the “push back” whenever we have addressed the topic. Raymond Cole certainly felt the resentment when he made comments, and it is certain that I have too.
Rather than being cowed into telling some of you what you would prefer to hear,
I am going to reiterate the very same principles that have never gone out of style in God’s eyes
(including some direct quotes from past church letters), and will do so in the most emphatic first-person. Then as always, it will be up to each one of you to either accept that as an instruction of Jesus Christ through this ministry, or to dismiss it as the personalized “edict of a man.” But rest assured you will each become responsible before God for your own choices, and none of you will have the excuse that you were not told.
When will the COG ministry ever stop resorting to threats when they want members to do something?  The things he claims that are in style in God's eyes are the exact same standards Herbert carried over from his growing up in the late 1800's through the depression.  These are Herbert's dress codes, not God's!
What does any of this have to do with other religious sects and their recognizable
dress or identifiable practices? I find it ironic that other deceived peoples in this world are so willing to make themselves a spectacle by being different in appearance when they believe their deities require it—especially through customs we know are manmade and often silly in God’s sight—while the true called of God are often the ones who demand the right to look like the world so that they can avoid standing out in any way. If only our brethren were as eager to please the One True God as many deceived pagans are willing to honor their false gods. Especially ironic is the fact that God does not require His people to dress in some outlandish way—like with a turban, a veil, an orange robe, or with ashes painted in a cross on the forehead—but simply to preserve the basic principles of modest dress that used to be acceptable in our worldly western societies even sixty years ago! Is that really asking too much? It is all a matter of perspective.
Ah, the glory days of the church.  Ozzie and Harriet and the Nelson family along with the Beaver are the epitome of Church of God standards that present-day leaders look wistfully back upon.  As if the church was ever that good!  It was just as morally bankrupt in the 50's and 60's as it is today. 


Brisby continues:  
Therefore, anything that smacks of men wearing women’s clothing, women wearing men’s clothing, or any attempt to amalgamate clothing as neither male nor female (unisex), is an abomination.
With that in mind, if you want to know if a particular garment is OK to wear, just ask what is the history of a particular form of clothing. I am not even suggesting the need to go back hundreds of years in most cases. For most of us, just look back to what was the standard for men’s and women’s attire in the 1940s and ’50s, for instance.         
Why that demarcation in time? Because up until that time in our Western culture, there was still a very strong cultural distinction between all things feminine vs. masculine. In the USA, it was only during and after World War II that the trend for women wearing men’s clothing began to really take off, in part because it was during the war that women began to work in factories to replace the labor lost from the men joining the military. Rosie the Riveter became the iconic image of our women supporting the war effort in order to fill the labor void. Rosie was portrayed as wearing men’s work pants (blue jeans), a man’s work shirt and boots, and flexing her bicep to show that she was fully capable of doing the work of a man. Even through much of the 1950s and ’60s, it was still unusual for women to wear “trousers” except for common-sense purposes like farm work, recreation, sports, etc. But by the end of the 1960s, the trend toward women wearing pants as routine casual attire had set in fully as part of the feminist movement. At the very same time they were burning bras and becoming sexually “liberated,” they were also starting to wear men’s pants!

Fast forward to today and it often seems to be the exception for women to wear
dresses anymore. Our most prominent women politicians seem to prefer pantsuits. It was Pat Nixon (wife of President Richard Nixon) who as First Lady donned a pantsuit outfit in public for the first time in the early 1970s. All new trends begin someplace. But it was not until 1993 that the United States Senate was finally forced to change its long-standing rule prohibiting women from wearing trousers on the Senate floor, after two new female Senators and their staffs began openly to defy that rule. The feminists won that spitting contest. You will often find that in the USA, the change in acceptable styles for work and formal wear have coincided with changes in government office dress codes. Once the government approves it for its workers, the die seems to be cast.
Oh, the horror's!




Just days ago, at a formal state dinner in Japan, hosted by the Japanese Prime
Minister for the President of the United States, the White House Communications Director in attendance (female) chose to wear a black tuxedo. The fashion set raved
about her well-tailored suit jacket and oversized black bow-tie. The world thinks she looked stunning. God says it is an abomination. What do you say?
It is always the women who get hit first with any church restrictions.  Like Eve, they apparently are the evil influence upon men. 


Many have expressed the sentiment that it seems that all of these clothing restrictions fall squarely upon the women in God’s church, and not the men. The men seem to get to wear whatever they want, but it is the women who have all the “special rules.” If that is accurate, it is only because that up until recently, the primary thrust of
Babylonian perversion has been largely one-sided—seeking to encourage women to act and dress like men. But unlike sixty years ago, that tide has also been turning, socially. Today, the political movement toward mainstream perversions, like transgender culture, is touting more than ever the adoption of feminine clothing for men. So it is beginning to apply a little more to both men and women in God’s church. That trend will only grow in future years. But for now, admittedly, it is especially our women who need to beware of violating Deuteronomy 22:5. The entire Church of God is symbolized by a woman. Satan hates women (especially the Church, as the bride of Christ) and understands that a primary way to destroy human society is through the perversion of feminine roles. So if anyone is the sexist, it is man’s enemy—Satan the Devil. Therefore, ladies, in blunt terms, I strongly admonish you to put down your torches and
pitchforks, your tar and feathers, and pay attention with ready, teachable minds to what I have to tell you.
I am not interested in creating “new rules.” I am however intent on reconfirming

the rules that have long been part of God’s teaching through His faithful ministry. With that in mind, here are a few quotes by Mr. Raymond Cole from the 1970s and ’80s to acquaint you with the history of this issue within Church of God, The Eternal.

      
The first citation is a written transcript taken from recorded comments he made

to the congregation in the announcement portion of a weekly Sabbath service in August 1976, in Eugene, Oregon (Announcement on Women’s Dress). The topic concerns the dress code for any woman working in the church office:

. . . We discussed this somewhat with respect to a number of other—let’s say—responsibilities, locations, whatever you want to call it. It has to do with—and I know there are a lot of people that are extremely, highly sensitized by a number of things; sometimes it makes you wonder how many of us really [are] going to have faith to endure and go on through to the end. . . . But, I know the thing came up when we had this matter of the office, and various ones who were going to bear responsibility. I knew that those who came into the office, of course, were going to—in part—create a certain image. . . . I think there are certain responsibilities that are absolutely important. . . . Because there are certain things that I subscribe to and believe emphatically—I’m not even saying always that everybody within my own family may fully agree with some of the things that I say—but I’m nonetheless very firmly convinced. Now, the difference is, I’m not going to coercively apply a lot of these things to many of you. In
certain ways—I haven’t done it to this point, and I don’t intend to—but as I said, with those coming into the office, I do expect everybody to come in there, that is, not everybody, but all women to come in there with dresses. I do not want anyone coming and working in the office in pantsuits or any other thing. It creates an image, and an image is very, very important. . . 

Mr. Cole follows this with comments about his personal opinion about women
wearing “pantsuits” in general:

Now, what you do at home, I guess, is your responsibility. If I happen to see you, it doesn’t mean that you have to run in fear, or anything else, because that’s not what [I] am out there for. If you want to live that way in your own homes, and so on, that’s your responsibility. You’re going to pay the price before God, ultimately. I do not agree with it. Never have agreed with them, and I’ll say that very emphatically. And someone says, “How do you know?”. . . Well, I don’t know. All I know is a change took place from dresses to pantsuits, and the whole thing was—and one of these days
I will speak on it because I have the documentation and I have the material to show you that the whole concept of pantsuits and this type of thing was—the creation of what they call the unisex appeal. The whole idea was to liberate that bondage, they called it, which was supposed to be identifying you as a woman, or whatever. They were to throw off these shackles, and so on. Oh yes, it’s written.
Cole continues:  
Herein is one of the very atrocious abominations of God. The very concept of unisex. The masculine/feminine reversal, or the attempt to make them the same. God is the Creator of them twain. He is The Creator of male and female, and God intended for us to leave them in the way He created them. And He intended for us to honor them for the purpose for which they were created. For any purpose, in the exploitation or the usage of that outside of divine purpose, is an abomination in the sight of God. And any attempt to reduce its effectiveness and to attempt to amalgamate it into a oneness—a unisex—is absolutely an abomination in the sight of God. And
my dear brethren, you see that at every turn in the road today. I don’t care whether it is in a dress, or whether it is in the perfumes, or whether it is in styles, or whatever it may be in. It is absolutely contrary to the will of God. And one of the odious things in the nostrils of God is for women to appear as men before God. God does not like it!
What is the COG's fixation with God's nostrils?  I think the stench God may be smelling is coming from the Headquarter buildings of the various COG splinter groups and not from the clothing people are wearing!

Cole continues:
Take it for what it’s worth. God is not the one that created all these
wretched styles that women and men have so glibly accepted in our day. I can read you quote after quote from the stylers that it was done
deliberately to confuse the two sexes. A whole system was generated to confuse the sexes. That was the beginning intent and the purpose behind it. Now, even if we accept certain things as being marginal, there is no way to accept—on the part of girls, or our women—jeans and this type of thing that are worn only by men. It is an abomination unto God. How does God look down upon you, women? And how about you men, because it works both ways.

What did he include as being “marginal”—implying there might be something that could be acceptable to some degree without being an abomination? By 1980, Mr. Cole was not saying that there were no kinds of trousers that could be acceptable for women. He did allow for that, even if he still, personally, did not like it. For proof of that, here is the continuation of his comments from that August 9, 1980, sermon referenced above:

I’m not saying—you know, my wife has brought this up many times, and said, “Well, you know, is a feminine pair of slacks contrary?” And I said, “No, no man would wear them. I’ll guarantee you I don’t intend to put them on.” So a feminine pair of slacks is not a problem. But men’s form of attire is a problem. It’s one of the things that has absolutely become dominant in our society today, and God calls it a terrible abomination in His sight.
Does this reflect a change in Mr. Cole’s thinking from 1976 to 1980? Perhaps.
Perhaps it was similar to Moses making allowances for carnal Israelites “because of the hardness of their hearts.” I cannot tell you for certain. But it is also possible that he simply chose not to make his own personal preferences against “pantsuits” equivalent to doctrine. When I look at all of these historical documents, I too must decide how to instruct the church today about the principles. What is true is that by 1980, Mr. Cole’s ruling was not that every form of trousers was absolutely forbidden to women in God’s eyes. But it is a very slippery slope when we get into making a distinction between what is “marginally” acceptable vs. what is absolutely forbidden. Yet, that is exactly what is needed, given that most women in God’s church today seem dead-set on wearing pants of some sort.
To clarify further, even within those comments to the church in that 1976 Sabbath service, Mr. Cole made other statements acknowledging the need for practicality. His real emphasis at that time was proper dress for Sabbath services or any church-sponsored activity. Notice it here:
All I’m saying now, and I’ve tried to give you an underlying purpose
behind this: I would like for every formal activity, whether it should be a matter of a formal function with respect to some social program; when I say a social program, I mean of that nature. I’m not talking about, now, a softball game or something else. We dress accordingly, obviously. It makes good sense. There’s propriety; you wouldn’t expect a girl who’s playing tennis, would you, to be in a long dress? It would be rather the height of folly, wouldn’t it? No, we wouldn’t expect it. We don’t expect her in a tennis skirt to come to church either, do we? That would be the height of folly too. So, we wouldn’t expect that. I’m merely saying with respect to certain functions, I’d like to see us exercise both manly and our feminine responsibilities. Whatever that function, whatever that responsibility is—and I’m not going to narrow that down to any particular function—but I’d just like to see, for those formal activities and those basic activities that are conducted by the church and so on, to be honored in that sense.
This clarifies that Mr. Cole was not talking about trying to restrict women from
athletic or recreational activities by reason of never being able to wear anything but a long skirt. That was never his point! He was addressing acceptable norms for “regular dress,” whether for church services or for other casual activities where dresses and skirts had always been the norm previously (remember my reference to the 1940s and ’50s).
Did you know that women's t-shirts are an abomination too, especially when paired with those Levi's!

The T-shirt evolved from undergarments used in the 19th century. First, the one-piece union suit underwear was cut into separate top and bottom garments, with the top long enough to tuck under the waistband of the bottoms. With and without buttons, they were adopted by miners and stevedores during the late 19th century as a convenient covering for hot environments. 

As slip-on garments without buttons, the earliest T-shirt dates back to sometime between the 1898 Spanish–American War and 1913, when the U.S. Navy began issuing them as undergarments. These were a crew-necked, short-sleeved, white cotton undershirt to be worn under auniform. It became common for sailors and Marines in work parties, the

early submarines, and tropical climates to remove their uniform jacket, wearing (and soiling) only the undershirt (“History of the T-shirt,” from Tee Fetch.com; Alice Harris, “The White T,” Harper Collins, 1996).

So how then did men’s work pants and work shirts become standard clothing for
women? You already know the answer to that. It was an intentional, calculated scheme by Satan and society to begin to dress women like men. And it is so accepted today that many of you would hardly know how to dress yourselves if you did not have your jeans and t-shirts.

Just like pants, the t-shirt problem has a solution. There are “t-shirts” made especially to be feminine, not just because they have feminine colors, but because the cut of the shirt has been changed also—e.g. cropped sleeves, a feminine neckline, etc. How do you know if it is feminine enough not to be an abomination to God? Simple. Find a manly man in your life and ask him if he would wear it (if it were his size). It is not about the color or what is printed on it. It is about the style and cut of the top. If it is virtually the same style as a manly t-shirt, then ladies, it was not made for you!

So what is a poor COGE member to do?  Well never fear, the church makes all decisons for you!  Woo Hoo!

In light of this history, the following is what I have given previously as guidelines
so that women in God’s church will have a basis for making personal choices according to the spirit of the law.
1) As clarified in the March 2003 Announcement Letter, slacks made specifically for women are not wrong at appropriate occasions, but they should have fasteners either on the side or the back, never in the front like a man’s trousers. For casual wear, denim is no more an inappropriate fabric than any other, but the key is that the construction of women’s slacks—regardless of the fabric—should never have a fastener in front.

2) Appropriate occasions for women in God’s church to wear slacks will never include church-sponsored activities which do not require active wear. This means not only that a woman will never wear pants to a church service, she also will never wear pants to a church potluck social, or any other gathering with other church brethren, even as Mr. Raymond Cole originally clarified. A group hike, horseback riding, softball game, or tennis outing are examples of exceptions in which appropriate, womanly pants might be OK. May we please see the end of the practice of girls rushing out of church services and donning their pants before coming back for the after-church social?

3) To evaluate whether something is appropriate, ask this question: Is it a garment made for the opposite sex? Then don’t wear it! Is it a unisex garment? If so, what was its origin? If it was a man’s garment originally, then it is still a man’s garment today in God’s eyes, and not to be worn by women. If contrariwise, it was a woman’s garment originally (like pantyhose, tights or modern leggings), then it should not be worn by men today (even if that is the new style for runners or cyclers). You see, it really is going both ways today. Even as Mr. Cole said in 1980 that one proof it is a woman’s garment is that “. . . no man would wear them. I’ll guarantee you I don’t intend to put them on.” Even so, that is a pretty good yardstick by which to measure.

4) What about work clothes around the house? If no one is going to see you, it is not a problem (assuming you are not pursuing some perverted hobby). What we are talking about is propriety in public. It is not wrong to wear your bathrobe and fuzzy slippers around the house, but you would not go out to the store dressed that way (or at least you shouldn’t). You might wear an old t-shirt to paint in, but you would not be seen out in polite company in that same painter’s shirt. And you might mow the lawn in a pair of work pants, but old-fashioned decorum says you will not go out in public dressed that way. But even in these instances, is it really that impossible to find eventually a feminine option for work clothes too? Why not?

Now ladies, don't get all huffy over these restrictions.  You will be in a bad attitude if you are, and rebellious!

Rather than react with indignation and frustration at how inconvenient this all
becomes, how about a positive response among the godly women of this church to embrace the most important underlying principle—that God cares about this! If we truly care about what He finds acceptable vs. offensive, then perhaps we can move on to finding some constructive and creative ways to maintain our active lifestyles without losing our decorum as manly men and womanly women. Yes, it will be inconvenient, because you will not be able to buy clothes off the rack as easily as do your worldly neighbors. You will have to put some thought into it. But if the members of God’s True Church would care even half as much about their own religion as do many Buddhists, Muslims, African Zionists, and Amish, I think we just might begin to set a better example in this dark world, and perhaps gain God’s real acceptance and favor to boot.
There is a lot more to appropriate appraance for God's people thanmerely avoiding the unisex trap. The next time I write you, we will tackle some other key principles, like modeslty in our dress, hair lenght, make-up, and church service attire.
You are  all much loved, much aprecired, and much valued.  May God continue to guide you, bless you, an dinspire your Christian endeavors.       

Yours most sincerely in Christ Jesus,


John Brisby


Thursday, April 12, 2018

"So, if you were losing your faith, why did you stay in the ministry so long?"


That's a fair question and one I struggled with I'd say from the mid 1990s to finally being free from it by '98

I went into the ministry in 1972.  Ted Armstrong was out, then he was in and then in '74, when I was working in Chicago during the Great East Coast Rebellion, he was out and I got fired by association with my boss, the Regional Director for whom I was his man Friday.

Got rehired when the dust cleared for me personally and I wanted to go on in ministry.  In my mind, I really thought that my generation of ministers would mellow and balance the church.  LOL.  Sorry about that.  I was naĂŻve.  But by 1975 I was pastoring my first two of 14 congregations, Findlay and Mansfield, Ohio.   From then on, it was one scandal, drama, trauma after the next and I wondered while driving my 60,000 miles a year visiting what I had gotten myself into.

Yet I believed the Bible as seen and understood through the eyes of the WCG.  It was better , it seemed than my Presbyterian perspectives which left out, it seemed, whole parts of and topics in the Bible.  I really wanted it to be true. I thought that after HWA died, and I always thought he would, the church would mature and the beat would go on better and better than ever.  We know how that went!

But there was that one thing, always in the back of my mind and it was personal between me and my dad. And it was this.......

Me on the left and my brother

My only brother, a couple years older than me, was born a preemie at a pound and a half.  In the day they poured on the pure Oxygen, minus the nitrogen  and it burned up his tiny retinas, ear bones and as a result could not speak either growing up.  His birth for my parents was a traumatic experience to say the least.  He spent his early life at the NYS Hospital in Newark and we visited him every Sunday after church.  Thus this picture.  

Back to staying in the ministry.

In 1972 I sat breathless during a forum at AC where they were announcing the ministerial assignments for my graduating class.  Not the best way to do it, but it was dramatic.  When they got to my name, and said,  "Dennis Diehl...Minneapolis, Minnesota" my personal goals were unfolding just as I had planned.    I went to AC to be in the ministry in spite of warnings from Apostles not to think you could come to AC with that goal.  It was my goal, I wanted to be a minister and I simply reached my personal goal.

I had also been accepted to the Roberts Wesleyan Theological Seminar in NY but choose AC for various reasons. I only mention this to say that I wanted to be a theologian type minister and had no idea AC had not concept of proper theological teaching in the history, background, origins and composition of the Bible.  Had I gone to RWTS, I suspect I would have learned a more realistic view of the Bible and probably had my mid-life exit from it much earlier. 

After the forum I went out to call my dad to tell him I was going into the ministry.  He got real quiet on the phone and I could tell he was a bit overwhelmed.  I had no clue why until I asked him if he was ok and he said...

"Son, I never have told anyone this.  When your brother was born with all his handicaps and disabilities, it practically killed me.  I even drove with him in the car around once thinking of just running the both of us into a tree.  Then I prayed to God that IF he ever gave me a normal son (I know, I know...no wise cracks please!) He could have him.  Seems God has taken me up on this. Congratulations!"

And so forever more I felt that not only had I reached my goal of ministry, wrong one not withstanding,  it also was an answer to my father's prayers.  And so while some of the reasons I stayed on after perhaps my own expiration date, had to do with really loving the local people and not wanting to hurt them or thinking that things would get better and I could be force for the good etc, this sincere perspective my equally sincere  father, who went on to be a local elder in Rochester,  gave to me in that one phone call home was fundamental to not walking away too soon.  

After my dad died, I was looking through his Bible and in the back on one line he had written, "April 1998.  Dennis Terminated from the ministry."   I wonder how he felt when he had to write that. 

And too...  Transitions in life can be very messy. I just wanted to share that with my friends here on Banned. 









Would You Buy Your Liver Pills From A Church of God Prophet?


 This is even more pathetic than his sermons!
Doesn't this well-polished video just make you want to call him up and buy it from him?
Quakery at its finest


PCG: Gerald Flurry and Elite Grandkids Travel In Luxury While Members Stay In "...nasty fleabag motels."

Paris Turgeon welcoming aboard Flurry and his fellow Elites...
images from Twitter/Facebook/Instagram

From a PCG source:

...it appears that Gerald Flurry has given his privileged and elite grandkids Grant and Paris Turgeon prestigious “Air Steward” jobs paid for with the tithes and offerings of the “sheeple” of the Church. They went on an all-expenses paid trip to Florida to attend an expensive Flight Attendant Training school. Gerald Flurry wants the best for his own family of course. Not only were all of Grant’s and Paris’s expenses paid for (Travel, Food, Lodging) – but they were PAID for their time as well as Church employees. This is in stark contrast to the common lowly non-Edmond/HQ sheep class of the PCG who had to stay in a Motel 6 or Day’s Inn at the 2017 Feast because they could not afford the rooms listed in the Feast Brochure.


That Prophet and his elite grandchildren



The Apostle arrives in style to his destination.....


All this is in stark contrast of course to the recent letter posted on Exit and Support Network which tells of the common non-Edmond class of PCG member who are stying in "Fleabag" motels and bouncing checks because of their own dire financial problems. 
This is the letter referenced above:

Flurry Uses Guilt and Threats at Feast Time:
April 8, 2018
Hello to Mike and all of the workers at Exit Network Support™. I have been out of the PCG for 5 years. I came into the PCG in the '90s under Dennis Leap and Wilbur Malone. Things were kind of strict back then but now....boy, it is hard to believe.
I do read your letters section to try and keep up with what has been happening since I have been out. I have been reading your postings from 2018. I was told by someone in the know that Flurry in November of 2017 gave a corrective sermon to the PCG people. 
Apparently two things happened connected with the 2017 FOT. (See November 30, 2017 letter: Some Members Not Staying at Designated Hotels at Feast) One was that people are starting to rebel against the strict hotel reservation commands given out from HQ. So many PCG people are finding it hard to pay for the over-inflated prices at these ritzy hotels that people are going to Motel 6 and Day's Inn, Ramada, etc., without telling their local ministers. With prices on the Feast brochures of the cheapest rooms around $80-99 dollars a night (budget rooms) people have disobeyed the orders of Flurry and have booked non PCG approved accommodations. 
Well, Flurry said that there were so many rooms not used by the PCG members that HQs had to pay thousands of dollars in fees/fines to all of the hotels per contract. This hit into the PCG budget as it costs even more to fuel up Flurry private jet. He said that from now on people have to counsel with the minister or they will have to be corrected. 
Also, Flurry said that after the Feast was over and all of the personal checks from the members were cashed, quite a few checks bounced. Flurry was very upset because the HQs had to pay fees once again--this time to the bank. Apparently, a lot of pressure was put on the membership this Feast to pay up. I suppose the usual guilt and threat of eternal death was dangled in front of their eyes. So a lot of people gave more money (wrote checks) under that influence than they had to give. 
I remember in the mid/late '90s that we had some wonderful Feasts. I know it was all a lie but back then we had money to spend. We stayed in some nice hotels and ate steak and drank nice wine. We even bought whole bottles of wine for the table. I never heard back then of checks bouncing like that or rooms not being used. I think things are so hard on my friends still in that they are trying so hard to please God/Flurry that they are doing things that they never had to do before, like staying in nasty flea bag motels. So many are old and retired and on fixed incomes. They are not getting in any new members and the young singles are fleeing once they turn 18--some even before they reach 18. I have quite a few dear ones that have died after I left. I never got to say goodbye.
A member told me that they do not care anymore about "getting a lot of members" anymore. They prefer to be small and stay small. They are "God's Elite" and only a small elite are going to be stationed in the Millennial Temple in Jerusalem. Flurry has told them that God is separating out the chaff from the wheat and only those totally loyal will be allowed to go to the Place of Safety. I know of one old couple in their mid 70s who have cut out eating little luxuries like ice cream and sending the money to Flurry so he can fly to where he wants to go. 
I hope the whole PCG collapses and I can see my friends again. 
Please, all of you have a good weekend and God bless. --[name withheld] 

Getting the red carpet treatment for the
most imporatant human on the face of the earth!


Flurry's Million-dollar plane is quite the tourist attraction in Edmond. There are entire PCG families who go just to see Flurry’s grand ego manifested in aluminium and steel:

An adoring PCG family having a Kodak moment with the new G450
(faces obscured for privacy)