"The Two Witnesses" Podcast

The Two Witnesses Podcast

"The Two Witnesses" podcast, where two former AC students discuss the beginnings of the WCG and different ways the hosts joined the cult

This podcast is a new idea by a couple of older Ambassador College graduates, myself and former WCG member and student Ralph. The first 2 episodes are now available to listen to, for those who may find it interesting.

The basic idea is to express in audio format some of the experiences we had, and how Herbert W. Armstrong's inimitable style hooked people into and indeed kept them in the Worldwide Church of God cult.

In addition, since we both eventually left the WCG (before many of the current WCG splinters were born), in future episodes we will discuss how we managed to leave, but first things first!

Episode #1 ("Unto Us A Cult Is Born") is more introductory, certainly nothing new to anyone who has ever been a member. We try to explain some of the history of the WCG, as well as the HWA mindset and formula that led to what would eventually be a church with members numbering in the 6 digits, and a multimillion-dollar, worldwide multimedia corporation. This cult leader with no credentials or political following would also somehow manage to get himself personal audiences with many of the world leaders of the 1970s and 80s. What was it about him that managed to attract people and create the Worldwide Church of God? Why do so many of the splinter groups, even now, follow and virtually idolize this man and his teachings?

(Apologies for some aspects of the audio in this initial episode which came out a little rougher around the edges than planned.)

Episode #2 ("Fifty Ways To Join a Cult"), focuses more on how the two hosts managed to find themselves in the cult: one by hearing HWA as a young man, which led to his coming into the church "cold turkey" as a new prospective member. The other by being born and raised in it on his mother's knee. We also touch on some of the well-known evangelists like Rod Meredith and Gerald Waterhouse with clips from their old sermons.

We don't know where this idea will take us, if anywhere, in which direction ultimately, or indeed even how many episodes. At some point it would be great to focus on some of the current splinters, which are in fact the living legacy of HWA's empire. Certainly merely a shadow of the original organization but not irrelevant by many measures.

For those interested please feel free to listen at your leisure, and of course non-trolling comments are welcome (a contact email is on the website). I will also try to check Banned semi-regularly.
There is a general plan to post at least 2 more episodes after this, with anything beyond that yet to be decided.

We hope some may find this entertaining, informative or nostalgic or, which would be best of all, even helpful.

Michael

Sigh. Still on Track and I Was Just Kidding About Giving That Last, Last Sermon.

From Engineer Pack...

 "P.S. to brethren. ENORMOUS additional things have been learned—ALL wonderful!—that are shocking! I plan several more messages that God surely wants delivered in order to FULLY reveal ALL He plans to do. While there is STILL a little time available to do this, we are still on track. You will soon learn this AS NEVER BEFORE."

Wishy-Washy Crackpot Prophet On Midwest Tornados

 

Last night, devastating tornados hit the midwest and caused major damage in Illinois, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, and Tennesee, creating a 200-mile long path of destruction.

Then, as usual, self-appointed Church of God prophets started their screeching about end-time events happening before our very eyes. And, as usual, none of these buffoons dare make the definitive statement that this WAS an end-time event. Deep on their corrupt heart they know it is not, but yet the sound bite registers with deceived followers with itching ears who think the same thing.

The biggest offender of this wishy-washy non-commital prophecy making is our illustrious Great Savior of Africa and 305 Caucasians, Dr. Robert Thiel, the COG's greatest prophet to ever appear in the almost 2,000 years of its existence.

Thiel writes:

Tornadoes injure at least hundreds and cause severe damage nearly every year. Yet, the USA is not in its the normal ‘tornado season,’ which is in the Spring. 

 

Does the Bible prophecy a time of major tornadoes? 

 

The answer looks to be yes. 

 

While the terms ‘tornado’ and ‘cyclone’ are not in the NKJV, KJV, or the DRB (Douay Rheims Bible), some translations of the Bible (like THE MESSAGE) do use them, and those that do not tend to use the term ‘whirlwind,’ which is basically what a tornado/cyclone is. 

 

The Bible shows that whirlwinds are one of the forms of weather that God controls...

The following is telling of a time when at least some of the descendents of Ephraim (currently dominating lands such as the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) will face a major destruction from a tornado:

15 Even though Ephraim ran wild,

the black sheep of the family.

“God’s tornado is on its way,

roaring out of the desert.

It will devastate the country,

leaving a trail of ruin and wreckage.

The cities will be gutted,

dear possessions gone for good.

16 Now Samaria has to face the charges

because she has rebelled against her God:

Her people will be killed, babies smashed on the rocks,

pregnant women ripped open.

(Hosea 13:15-16, THE MESSAGE)

Nothing gets COG leaders off more than seeing death and destruction dished out on unbelievers. Killing people and bashing baby's heads on the rocks are delicious sound bites for these perverted buffoons.

Never fear though, the Greatest Prophet ever to live in church history wants people to know that he is praying for them. So comforting.

Those impacted by the latest tornadoes are in my prayers, as are those by the deadly truck accident in Mexico (Mexico truck crash: At least 54 people killed as trailer overturns). 

 

God wants people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30). He uses weather for correction and for His mercy (Job 37:13). 

 

Will you heed the weather and other warnings?