Wednesday, July 13, 2022

Dave Pack: Is A Wellness Check Needed?


 

We have been watching lately as Dave Pack has set endless dates which have all failed to come to pass and now watch as he continues to claim he is Elijah the prophet.

In the fantasyland of the Church of God movement, we have seen scores of men and a couple of women down through the decades that have set themselves up as Elijahs and issued dire warnings to the church. Even today in 2022 we have at least five other Elijahs running around spewing their contemptible nonsense: Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, Alton Billingsly, and Wade Cox. Dave is not new to the list as he was already declaring this in 2015 and earlier, however, he has been way more vocal recently as he has been setting specific dates under that mantle.

The ExRCG website by Marc Cebrian has a new post up about a recent incident with Dave Pack as he was speaking to his dwindling faithful at his compound in Wadsworth, Ohio regarding his Elijahship and things go downhill rather fast.

One has to assume that he is under extreme pressure considering the rapid-fire failures are stacking higher each day.

Marc reports:

We are on the cusp of the 15th of Tammuz, which begins tonight at sundown. This “make or break” moment is of paramount importance to David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God. 
 
You and I know what will happen during those 24-hours. Wednesday will transform into Thursday. And that is all. But David C. Pack does not know that yet. 
 
There is either a lot of excitement or a lot of worry over at Headquarters today.

For me, I find it hard to believe that there can be much excitement left for RCG members who have set through these endless pronouncements and then sat there in their homes as Jesus failed to return.  

Marc then goes on to report this:

During Part 381 given on the Sabbath of July 9, 2022, there was a very uncomfortable moment which occurred at the 56-minute point. All humor aside, watch it unfold. 
 

I was shocked that this was distributed to the entire church because during my tenure in the Media Production Services Department, it would have not gone out. Okay, maybe. I would have pushed HARD for this one edit. Granted, at that time messages were actually edited and not rushed out “as delivered” which has both pluses and minuses. This was a big minus. 
 
It is obvious those additional four hours of work are not as important any more. Hence, we get a moment like we just saw. 
 
Oh the things we have cut out over the years…wow. But this is by the far the worst I have ever seen. It was a next-level moment that should never have left the room. 
 
But they did release it and here we are.

How many other moments like this happen in the office only a few see? 
 
It could just be that David C. Pack did not get enough sleep the night before. Or he did not drink enough water. Or maybe it is post-COVID “brain fog,” which many people experience.

The ministry in Wadsworth has to be asking themselves what is wrong with Dave. Deep down many of them know that Dave is wrong, yet they continue to stroke his back and continue to crowd around him clapping like happy seals.

Marc makes then makes this comment:

The stress and pressure he must feel day to day is tremendous. Each time he finds the answer in the Bible about when the Kingdom of God is going to arrive, he is later met with failure. Then, he has to go back to the drawing board to scour the Bible and find another answer to show how he was “correct about the picture but just got the timing wrong.” 
 
He truly believes God has given him this assignment and that he is a real apostle. The weight on his shoulders grows as the years wear on while the frantic searching-and-explaining cycle never ends.

It never ends. It will never end. He just does not know that yet. 
 
“I found it. No I didn’t. I found it. No I didn’t. I found it. No I didn’t.”

For decades now the COG movement has watched many Elijah's come and go, telling one enormous lie after another. Even today in 2022 they continue this foolishness, never learning from the past mistakes of previous Elijahs. These guys all get rather pissy that no one heeds their warnings. How can we? We have spent over 8 decades watching these fools blatantly lie and deceive the brethren.  Like the previous Elijahs who are now dead, the remnant that are left in the COG in 10-20 years will see the present-day Elijahs also dead with nothing they predicted coming to pass.

All of these men, including today's batch, have serious mental health problems. Sadly these narcissistic and delusional men have not only done great mental and spiritual harm to their followers, but they may also end up causing great physical harm too. These men all need wellness checks!

Read the complete post by Marc Cebrian here:  RCG Wellness Check

Tuesday, July 12, 2022

Church of God International: Competing Feast Sites?

Hat tip to a CGI source:

If one thought the current issues going on in the Church of God International were getting absurd, with Bill Watson turning church services and his writings into a religious NewsMax, wait till you read about the Feast of Tabernacles! Ghastly days, Loma!

Bill Watson and his Medina Ohio CGI are holding their own Feast of Tabernacles just 24 minutes from the St Pete/Tampa Feast site of the CGI.

Bill Watson's NewsMax Feast site

This year the CGI will be sponsoring for its second year, the Feast of Tabernacles in Clearwater, Florida. The Feast site will be at the "ocean front” Duval Ballroom, located at the Holiday Inn & Suites, Clearwater Beach. The address is, 521 Gulfview Blvd, Clearwater Beach––right on the ocean!!

Bill Watson
Feast Co-ordinator

Imagine spending a Feast where you thought you were going to hear sermons about a wonderful world to come where humanity and nature are in communion with God and instead are subjected to 8 days of endless political rants masquerading as sermons. What a nightmare!

I wonder how many will then take the trip down the road to the other CGI Feast site in St Pete/Tampa?

St Pete/Tampa Feast site

Who in their right mind at CGI HQ thought this was a good idea? The COG movement is already in tatters with different factions holding services in the same cities, and sometimes the same building, and yet here we are with two different factions within the same church organization holding separate Feast sites!








Tiny Little COG Prophet Declares Tribulation Will NOT Start Before 2026



It has just been confirmed today that the Great Tribulation will NOT begin before 2026! Woo Hoo! Party time!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is such a relief to know that the crap will not be hitting the fan, at least for a few more years. So enjoy life, at least all of you unrepentant exCOG members and Laodiceans who aren't part of the one true church.

God's most holy, righteous, and littlest prophet, who was dreamed into being before the foundations of the world began to be created, is back today letting us know that we have a few more years left, BUT, if you are not part of his group you will never know when the tribulation begins! Oh, noes!!!!!!!!

Those who believe and understand what the Bible actually teaches realize that the Great Tribulation cannot begin before 2026. 
 
Jesus gave a variety of signs/events that had to happen prior to the start of the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24. Not only have many not happened, a preceding event in Daniel 9:27 involving the confirmation of a seven-year deal still has not happened. Since it did not happen as of yet, this means that it is not possible for the Great Tribulation to begin for at least 3 1/2 years (half of a biblically-prophetic week).

He next writes this:

People who claim to be COG, like Ronald Weinland and the late James Malm, have repeatedly been in error as to timing as they have looked to their own understanding instead of what the Bible teaches.

This is pretty rich coming from a man who is just as big a liar as these two are/were! 

Apparently, the rest of the COG's and the world will not know when the end times hit...despite the widespread death and destruction the church has been wishing upon the world for decades.

The Great Tribulation is coming, but it will not begin in 2022. 
 
That being said, please understand that the COGs associated with the Sardis and Laodicean churches cannot possibly know when the Great Tribulation will begin unless they change.

The Great Bwana even attacks the CG7 Denver as being ignorant of the end times. 

CG7-Denver, for one example, believes that most events in the Book of Revelation have already been fulfilled, so they are not officially looking for it. And the Laodicean churches have added extra, non-biblical events/requirements to precede the Great Tribulation, that are not necessary and hence those who believe them will NOT believe that the Great Tribulation will start until it is too late (see also The Laodicean Church Era).

CG7 Denver has a more successful ministry than Bob can ever dream of and has touched more lives than he ever will.

Then, in typical COG fashion, he goes on to list 51 points as to why everyone is wrong but him. Why is it that COG ministers feel the need to publish endless numbered lists and bullet points every time they speak? Even with his 51 points, he still can not stay on topic and bounces all over the place.  On top of that, it is a list of 51 accusations he accuses other COG groups of not doing. Apparently, no one in the entire COG does anything right except for him.

Bwana Bob still is suffering major butt hurt with Living Church of God and United Church of God spewing him out and rejecting his corrections he lobed at both of them:

Yet, it should be noted that leaders in the Living Church of Godand/or the United Church of God have confirmed to me personally that I was biblically correct on basically all the above points, despite the fact that their respective churches hold to several of the errors pointed out above. Those who rely too much on a compromised ministry (Ezekiel 34:7-10) to teach them prophecy that is not truly in accordance with scripture need to realize that according to Jesus’ words in Revelation 2 & 3 and Luke 21, only relatively few Christians will be protected from the hour of trial that will come upon the whole world.

The entire COG movement has rejected Bwana Bob and that just frosts his self-righteous butt to no end. 

If you are inclined, you can read his whiney little bitch fest here: The Great Tribulation cannot begin before 2026!