Herbert W. Armstrong did restore various doctrinal truths to the COG, but Herbert W. Armstrong did not restore all things–though he did claim to restore at least 18. But, according to the Bible, could Herbert W. Armstrong have been the Elijah to come (Matthew 17)?
Let’s start with Malachi 4:5-6, but as shown in the Jewish Publication Society translation:
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming Of the great and terrible day of the LORD.And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,And the heart of the children to their fathers;Lest I come and smite the land with utter destruction.Notice that the Elijah is to come just before the great and terrible day of the LORD, and if he did not come, utter destruction would occur.
Herbert W. Armstrong died in January 16, 1986.
I imagine you already see where this is going. HWA is dead and the church is still here and the world is in a horrible mess and needs to be warned by someone. Hum, I wonder who that could be????
Did you know that even Herbert Armstrong foretold of a certain Elijah to come:
The “very end” of the Church age was not over 35 years ago! The 6000 years has NOT yet been fulfilled. Since the “very end of the Church age” has not happened, and Herbert W. Armstrong died decades ago, his writings support that there must be another Elijah. And he was referring to an individual in the Mystery of the Ages.
And, to back up that claim Beto Bob trots out less than credible Dibar Apartian as an authority on Elijah's. Beto even drags Aaron Dean into the mix where he claimed an Elijah was yet to come.
That being said, sometimes Herbert W. Armstrong did think that he may have fulfilled the Elijah role, but he told the late Dibar Apartian (who told me) that he was NOT the Elijah. Dibar Apartian did not believe that Herbert W. Armstrong was the Elijah when we discussed this several times and he agreed with me about this. Furthermore, essentially on his deathbed, Herbert W. Armstrongadmitted to his closest aide, Aaron Dean (who told me this multiple times) that there could be an Elijah to come after he died.
Combining what Herbert W. Armstrong wrote in The Mystery of the Ages and the length of time since his death demonstrates that Herbert W. Armstrong could not have been the final prophesied Elijah.
Beto continues
Since the Bible does teach that there will be an ‘Elijah’ who is alive right before Jesus returns (Malachi 4:5-6), thus it is not possible that Herbert W. Armstrong was the prophesied final Elijah.
Now, presuming Jesus will return within the next couple of decades, then that ‘Elijah’ would need to be alive now. And he would be part of the church that places the highest priority on the truth.
Yet, most Christians seemingly refuse to accept that.
Since HWA died 36 years ago and the world is still continuing on and the Churches of God are shrinking in size, this obviously means there is still an Elijah to come! Even more obvious to everyone is that Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, and most certainly Gerald Weston are not fulfilling the Elijah role, this can only leave one person for that and it has to be Ron Weinland Bob Thiel!
No other Church of God in the entire history of Christianity is doing a work as powerful as the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" is. No one, particularly that pipsqueak Gerald Weston who made fun of Beto.
Beto writes:
We in the Continuing Church of God are regularly restoring more truth about church history, Jesus, the Bible, doctrine, and prophecy. And we have done this more (and in more languages), by far, than any other group in the 21st century (COG or otherwise for that matter). Plus we have restored important truth about why God created anything and His plan for each human.
Beto claims he and his cult were written about in the Bible to rise up in the end times.
Was that supposed to happen?
Yes.
Notice something that Daniel wrote:
4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” (Daniel 12:4)
Consider also the admonition of the Apostle Peter:
18 … grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 3:18)
No other Church of God in this horrific time of the end is growing in grace and knowledge as much as the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" is. Not even Dave Pack's endless visions by his god can measure up to the dreams and nightmares that come daily to Beto. New knowledge and truths are being revealed constantly to God's most mighty man who is the ONLY real follower of God leading a COG today.
Also consider that any who have already died are not relevant regarding all things to be restored just before the Day of the Lord–only one alive then (who would also be alive now) can possibly fulfill the Elijah role to increase knowledge and restore all things. It is not that others cannot add to knowledge, but what was to be restored in the end has to come from someone who is a real follower of God who is alive at the end. Growth of Christian knowledge did not end by January 16, 1986.
Beto then claims that since he is the only real follower of God left in the Church today that it is only natural that he will be one of the two witless witnesses, Laura Weinland being the second. She is the second witless witness because she can't be the first one as women cannot rule over men.
Consider also that the Bible indicates that it is likely that the ‘Elijah’ will be one of the two witnesses.
Since Herbert Armstrong was not a prophet, Elijah was a prophet (1 Kings 18:36), the Elijah to come is to be a prophet (Malachi 4:5), and the two witnesses will be prophets, Herbert W. Armstrong was not the Elijah to come.
Beto also made a video where he hilariously tried to prove he is Elijah. I won't link to the video here, but he did say this about it, and as usual, it is all about him. No Jesus stuff, but endless Beto stuff.
21st Century Elijah
Was John the Baptist the prophesied Elijah or at least a type of Elijah? Is there an Elijah to come? Have Sabbatarians been teaching this a long time? What were 18 truths that Herbert W. Armstrong said God had him restore? Was anything to be restored in the last days, consistent with Daniel 12:4 and Matthew 17:11? Was God supposed to restore dreams and prophets in the last days? Did the Worldwide Church of God teach such would happen again? Have we seen signs of Acts 2:17-18 in the Continuing Church of God? Is Bob Thiel the final Elijah or one of the two witnesses? Why or why not? Has there been the restoration of important truths in the CCOG? Is the CCOG at least setting the foundation for the 21st century Elijah? Dr. Thiel gives information relating to all of that in this sermon.
Since 99.99 % of the Church of God ignores Beto, he lashes out and calls everyone Laodiceans because they refuse to acknowledge him as the greatest COG leader ever to exist. As Laodiceans, they are doomed to suffer in the tribulation because they refuse to see how great he is.
Sadly, just as many would not hear Elijah’s nor John the Baptist’s messages, relatively few will pay much attention to the end time Elijah as well.
That is not a surprise as most Christians in the end times were to be Laodicean, and Jesus warned the Laodiceans since they would not ‘get with the program,’ that they would be punished (Revelation 3:14-18).
Of course, if you are willing to believe the truth and do what the Bible teaches, that does not have to include you.
It is appalling that here we are close to 2023 and we are still being subjected to all of these self-appointed liars and false prophets in our midst. Never has the church seen so many liars claiming visions and dreams from their gods as we are now. New revelations flow daily from these narcissistic men and we are expected to believe them.
I can state as 100% FACT that Bob Thiel is NOT Elijah and will NOT be one of the two witnesses.