Dave Pack: The "god" that he calls the "father" is coming to beat, mutilate, and gouge the eyes out of those who leave his cult

These are summary points of a couple of Dave's latest sermons. He is well into the 300's now and still making excuses each week when his creature he calls "christ" has not returned.  The longer that delay happens the angrier the guy seems to get. Now he looks with glee on those who have left the church because of his lies will soon be mutilated by his god and have their eyes gouged out.

This is the face of Armstrongite cultism, regardless of which splinter group people are in. 

From an RCG source:

Sermon 293 & 294. comments of interest

Sermon 293

4:20 - God the Father was in the Pillar and followed the Israelites

4:50 - Raising a prophet like Moses in the modern age

6:45 - We hope the series is over

11:38 - We shouldn't assume we won't see God [Father], we will only see Him as He is when we are like him. People saw him all the time.

12:30 - God calls Dave to His foot, and God has His foot on earth and brings his throne here. (Isaiah) 

30:50 - I want this all to be clear

36:15 - Judge nothing before the time

38:30-39:50 - Sweep your mind clear

43:30 - Revelation 16:15 - Not Son of Man,

45:05 - Finished a commission, knows its time to watch

46:30 - People don't abide the day of the coming, they beat us and go back to the world!

47:50 - Must be the Fathers arrival! people will be mutiliated and beaten with their eye gouged out.

50:52 - The Gateway Prophecy, Dave had to prepare the way before the Lord God, had the right prophecy and wrong person, so I got that wrong

55:30 - Some messenger some way somewhere, I haven't even heard of them.

(Doesn't recognize John Baptist)

1:02:30 - We are at a time when iniquity needs to end!

1:04:11 - God the Father will purify, etc...

1:05:48 - I never knew to look for the Father until about a week ago, it lines up perfectly, Elijah is given everything God has

1:07:00 - No way to argue, once I prepared the way, then it happens!

1:10:44 - This is just a mirror of Dave is doing

1:16:00 - Anoints David, this is DCP

1:23:20 - I am coming quickly off this messenger explains these prophecies! Rushing coming off coming quickly!

1:23:33 - About to sound when His kingdom is near!

1:28:40 - We will confound the mighty!

1:33:40-34:59 - Every evidence coming off the last day of unleavened bread! Watch!I would know when it's done.

end of message, essentially the mystery of god is revealed! 

 

Sermon 294 - 

 

4:29 - If anything needs to be changed, I reserve the right to do this or correct a point or two.

7:50 - Briefest moment

8:10 -Christ has a prophetic signature

13:30 - Why its an hour and trial forms the last sermon, I hope, I will ever give. I didn't get it until I was shown.

17:08-17:50 - Who abides the day of His coming? Many people who leave will be cut asunder.

A day that comes as a thief, "out of the gate, and suddenly," this is the "Father" coming to kill all the people who left the church.

++27:15 - The bible is an enigmatic book, god guides us..."

30:20 - Describes the arrival of the Father and Christ is coming to split families up

Dave Pack Blows A Gasket Over Ex-Members Gathering Together To Celebrate 4th of July

Dave Pack popped his prophetic white shirt last week when he lashed out at ex-members and ex-employees who got together to celebrate the 4th of July together. One of his ass-kissing young men on the payroll has been monitoring certain facebook pages of ex-member/employees to find any dirt he can report back to Dave with. Imagine living a life so petty and filled with such jealousy that this is what you spend your day doing so you can run and "impress" Dave. Little does this guy know that he will suffer the same wrath from Dave and be treated like dirt at some point in the future, just like the ex-employees and ex-members were.

Dave was incensed that these people all gathered together to celebrate the 4th of July. Imagine that! Dave really popped the buttons on his white shirt when he said some of these ex-members and ex-employees were CHRISTMAS KEEPERS! How dare some of these people associate with such heathens! Even worse, there were ex-members and ex-employees who were supposedly there from various splinter groups. How dare those people associate with Christmas keepers! Lord have mercy! Imagine a group of exRCG people enjoying a day of fun, friendship, and patriotism! What a damnable thing to do!

Dave was not happy that these people chose to gather on the 4th of July instead of waiting patiently for Dave's creature called "christ" to return on the weekend of July 17. Which it did not, as we all know.

So, now we wait for the creature to return this Saturday, but I have a feeling it will delay its second coming once again so it can watch the Olympics. After all, what would be more interesting....some creature return to Wadsworth to walk the hallowed ground of Dave's campus or watching the amazing abilities of world-class athletes in all their glory? Even JC knows the answer to that!

It's a strange thing. There's a group of people who recently who got together for the 4th of July, a week ago. Somebody showed me some pictures of them, and a lot of them are now Christmas keepers and a lot of others are in the splinters. And the one thing they had in common was that they had all been here (RCG HQ in Wadsworth, Ohio). But it was like there was no difference between them! Whether you are a Christmas keeper or you go to a splinter they are all right there enjoying the 4thof July together and they are happy to post it. Now I thought about some of the people who left us who would rather go send the 4th of July with CHRISTMAS KEEPERS, Easter, Halloween, who blew off all the laws of God and they wouldn't even say good-bye to us, never mind Thank-you, for anything.   Well, there's a lot of actors out there who are stage players and God has to get rid of them. And if people will quit when there is no fire, Come now and have a great meal and you can have eternal life in a few days and they say, "No, I choose my field and my cows or my wife who is gonna be DEAD WITH ME!" Boy, oh boy! Shallow, actors! So we ended where we started. There are a lot of people who are like that. Many are called, few are chosen. Blessed are those and happy are those who come to the 1335 and are REALLY BLESSED is a tiny little flock and there was always for 2,000 years a tiny ongoing microblock, generation by generation who actually going to be blessed a week before the others and I think it'll happen God willing, within the next week!

Even nominal Christians know that the God of Scripture has a far better outlook about people's lives than Daves nasty vengeful god does. Dave needs all of the COG reprobates to die horrible deaths in order to be proven right while scripture states just the opposite:

MSG
Don’t overlook the obvious here, friends. With God, one day is as good as a thousand years, a thousand years as a day. God isn’t late with his promise as some measure lateness. He is restraining himself on account of you, holding back the End because he doesn’t want anyone lost. He’s giving everyone space and time to change.

NIV
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

NRSV
The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some think of slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

KJV
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Wade Cox: His creature he calls "christ" was one of multiple sons of the "Host"

 

The resident Church of God crackpot in Australia is doing a sermon series on the "doctrines of demons."

He is having fits over all kinds of things, including vegetarianism. He ignores the fact that Adam and Eve in the creation myths were vegetarians, but that is another story.

Things quickly get weird in his article with this COG crackpot when it comes to the creature he calls "christ". Cox is apparently one of the "one godder" crowd, though he takes it even further into craziness when he talks about his creature:

Christ was a son of God, one of the multiple sons of the Host, before his incarnation. He laid all that aside and became an human being. We cannot say Christ retained any part of himself in the Godhead or outside of himself. Paul quite clearly says here that Christ was designated son of God in power according to the Holy Spirit, by his resurrection from the dead. He laid aside his sonship to become a human in order that he might become the first son of God of the human species. That’s what the intent was. Nothing of Jesus Christ remained outside of his human existence.  That is the doctrine of Antichrist. The doctrine of Antichrist teaches that Christ has some part of himself separate to his entity as a human being and somehow he retained some part of his divinity external to his physical existence. He did not.

5 through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations, 

 

The faith was then extended into the nations. It was the structure of the obedience of faith. Our faith is obedience to God and the acknowledgment that only God is True God. Our requirement for the inheriting of eternal life from John 17:3 is the knowledge of the One True God and of his son Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not the One True God. The Bible is emphatic on that. It is quite clear that the obedience of the faith to the One True God, that is God the Father, God Most High, is the requirement for the receipt of the sonship on the redemption of our bodies, from Romans 8:29ff. That includes all who are called to belong to Jesus Christ from verse 6.

6 including yourselves who are called to belong to Jesus Christ; 7 To all God's beloved in Rome, who are called to be saints: grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Thus we establish the Godhead in the first seven verses and the understanding of the faith of the One True God, and that Christ laid aside his sonship and became a human and received his sonship again from the redemption of his body at his resurrection. There is no existence of Jesus Christ outside of his humanity until his resurrection. To assert that as a fact denies the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and denies the totality of his resurrection, and is a doctrine of demons. The trinity is itself a doctrine of demons and from it two other doctrines flow.

This is the kind of idiocy that comes from crazy COG ministers and so-called  Coordinator General's. But, what should you expect from apostate COG groups that deny everything about the historical and scriptural Jesus and the works he accomplished. It is no wonder that the so-called "christian" Churches of God are such a small group. Much like Bob Thiel's personality cult, Cox's cult claims half of the African continent as his members, and just a few white people are even interested in him other than some Missourians and a few others.

It is also too good to pass up when it comes to the official flag of Wade Cox's cult:

The CCG Flag

The CCG Flag is a white background with the Church logo centrally placed on the flag maintaining the church colours of White and Blue (heraldically argent and azure). We are required by Scripture to wear Ribbons of Blue on the corners of our garments to remind us of the Commandments of Almighty God (Num. 15:38). Therefore in accordance with the law we place two ribbons of blue on the top and bottom of the flag to remind us of the Laws of God, as embodied in the First and Second Great Commandments, and the Testimony or Faith of Jesus Christ and thus encompassing all the Scripture of both testaments.

The flag has nothing to do with the flag of modern day Israel. The colours are similar because the colours represent the similar biblical concepts. It was not the basis for the CCG flag and differs in all other aspects including the symbols or devices and the placement of its bars.

Would You Trust A Self-Appointed Crackpot COG Prophet Talking To You About Sex, Marriage And Birth Control?

 

Bible sex, the only way to do it...

There is nothing nastier than COG ministers and leaders sticking their noses into COG member's bedrooms. Far too many of them seem to make it their goal to make member's lives as miserable as they can and controlling what people do in their bedrooms is their ultimate control.

Rod Meredith was the king of that in the church. He wielded a heavy hand when he was over Church Administration when he stuck his nose into thousands of marriages over the years. Far too many of them he broke up. Add to that his incessant need to talk about sex in sermons, bible studies, and in classroom lectures and you have the perfect meddlesome minister.

Now Bwana Bob Thiel is following in the steps of his spiritual daddy (Rod Meredith) and is now telling his 4,000 some African members and his 299 Caucasians what kind of sex to have.

Given that Bwana Elijah Thiel is such a theological nightmare in the crap that he teaches, would you trust him to tell you what you can and can't do in the bedroom?

He has released a "sermon" on sex and he thinks it is so sexual that it deserves a "parental discretion" advisory.

Sex and Marriage
Why is there sex and why is there marriage? Parental discretion is advised as to whether or not everything in this sermon is now appropriate for their children. Dr. Thiel goes over scriptures, “The Missing Dimension in Sex,” and provides answers to questions, such as:

• What did Jesus say about marriage?
• Are married couples biblically supposed to have sex?
• Is sex one way to express love?
• Does God have a purpose for sex?
• What are the reasons for sex in marriage?
• What are the purposes for marriage?
• How do humans differ from animals?
• Was sex really necessary?
• What are the divine purposes of sex?
• Why not fornication or adultery?
• Is marriage supposed to be a God-plane relationship?
• Are families intended as a God-plane relationship?
• How does reproduction picture spiritual salvation?
• What are the different types of love?
• What type of love should Christians have?

 

• Is oral sex allowed?
• Is anal sex prohibited by scripture?
• Should intercourse be avoided during a woman’s menstrual cycle?
• Is it appropriate to enjoy your five senses?
• Are Christian couples supposed to produce godly offspring?
• What about building character and God’s deification plan?

Today, Sunday, July 18, he pops back on with a sermon on birth control. 

Can Christians Use Birth Control?

There are various views on birth control as well as various methods. Time magazine has covered some history of it (and even mentioned Casanova). Did Jesus make a statement that might be consistent with birth control? In this video, Dr. Thiel goes over some of that as well as some relevant scriptures. He also mentions positions of the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, and the Continuing Church of God. Dr. Thiel also provides some quotes from the book “The Missing Dimension in Sex” about this topic. He discusses methods of birth control and points out which are abortive and which are not. Timing, herbal, and barrier methods are discussed.

Always majoring in the minors and never in the grace-filled life real believers live in. Such a pathetic meddlesome little man. 

Weather Happens and Fake COG Prophets See Divine Punishment

The great Bwana to Africa is having a naturopathic meltdown today over various weather stories in the news over the last few days. His god is one angry pissed-off creature that is so mad that he is letting satan run amok causing all kinds of problems in the world, particularly in the United States, so much so that it is a sure sign that his god is not pleased and is punishing rebellious sinners who are not COG members.

‘Germany floods: At least 33 dead’ ‘Record-breaking drought, heatwaves, wildfires, melting permafrost, and plagues promises to be a worrying summer for the United States! … Canada … Bulgaria … Spain’

 

Weather happens, buckwheat! It happens in cyclical patterns for millennia. What is happening today, thanks to amazing technology and instant access to news is that weather is reported as it is happening, instead of having huge delays in publishing.

Analysis of trends and of aggregated time series on climatic (30-year) scale does not indicate consistent trends worldwide. Despite common perception, in general, the detected trends are more negative (less intense floods in most recent years) than positive. Similarly, Svensson et al. (2005) and Di Baldassarre et al. (2010) did not find systematical change neither in flood increasing or decreasing numbers nor change in flood magnitudes in their analysis.

Like Holdren, many people who ascribe to doomsday scenarios related to AGW seem to think that severe weather is happening more frequently. From a perception not steeped in the history of television technology, web technology, and mass media, which has been my domain of avocation and business, I can see how some people might think this. I’ve touched on this subject before, but it bears repeating again and in more detail.

Let’s consider how we might come to think that severe weather is more frequent than before. Using this Wikipedia timeline as a start, I’ve created a timeline that tracks the earliest communications to the present, adding also severe weather events of note and weather and news technology improvements for context. 

• Prior to 3500BC – Communication was carried out through paintings of indigenous tribes.
• 3500s BC – The Sumerians develop cuneiform writing and the Egyptians develop hieroglyphic writing
• 16th century BC – The Phoenicians develop an alphabet
• AD 26-37 – Roman Emperor Tiberius rules the empire from island of Capri by signaling messages with metal mirrors to reflect the sun
• 105 – Tsai Lun invents paper
• 7th century – Hindu-Malayan empires write legal documents on copper plate scrolls, and write other documents on more perishable media
• 751 – Paper is introduced to the Muslim world after the Battle of Talas
• 1305 – The Chinese develop wooden block movable type printing
• 1450 – Johannes Gutenberg finishes a printing press with metal movable type
• 1520 – Ships on Ferdinand Magellan‘s voyage signal to each other by firing cannon and raising flags.
• 1776 The Pointe-à-Pitre hurricane was at one point the deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record. At least 6,000 fatalities occurred on Guadeloupe, which was a higher death toll than any known hurricane before it. It also struck Louisiana, but there was no warning nor knowledge of the deaths on Guadeloupe when it did. It also affected Antigua and Martinique early in its duration.
• 1780 – The Great Hurricane of 1780, also known as Hurricane San Calixto is considered the deadliest Atlantic tropical cyclone of all time. About 22,000 people died when the storm swept over Martinique, St. Eustatius and Barbados between October 10 and October 16. Thousands of deaths also occurred offshore. Reports of this hurricane took weeks to reach US newspapers of the era.
• 1793 – Claude Chappe establishes the first long-distance semaphore telegraph line
• 1812 – The Aug. 19, 1812 New Orleans Hurricane that didn’t appear in the Daily National Intelligencer/(Washington, DC) until later September. Daily National Intelligencer. Sept. 22, 1812, p. 3. Dreadful Hurricane. The following letters present an account of the ravages of one of those terrific storms to which the Southern extreme of our continent is so subject. Extract of a letter from Gen. Wilkinson, dated New Orleans, August 22.

I skipped several years to this:

• 1986 July 18th, KARE-TV in Minneapolis dispatches a news helicopter to catch live video of a tornado in progress, live at 5:13 PM during their news broadcast.
• 1988 – Doppler Radar goes national – the construction of a network consisting of 10 cm (4 in) wavelength radars, called NEXRAD or WSR-88D (Weather Service Radar 1988 Doppler), was started.
• 1989 – Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau built the prototype system which became the World Wide Web at CERN
• 1989 – August Sony announced the Sony ProMavica (Magnetic Video Camera) electronic still camera, considered the first widely available electronic camera able to load images to a computer via floppy disk.
• 1991 – Anders Olsson transmits solitary waves through an optical fiber with a data rate of 32 billion bits per second.
• 1991  – The 1991 Perfect Storm hits New England as a Category 1 hurricane and causes $1 billion dollars in damage. Covered widely in TV and print, it later becomes a movie starring George Clooney.
• 1992 – Neil Papworth sends the first SMS (or text message).
• 1992 – August 16-28 Hurricane Andrew, spotted at sea with weather satellites, is given nearly continuous coverage on CNN and other network news outlets as it approaches Florida. Live TV news via satellite coverage as well as some Internet coverage is offered. It was the first Category 5 hurricane imaged on NEXRAD.
• 1993 – The Great Mississippi Flood was carried on network television as levees breached, millions of viewers watched the flood in real-time and near real-time.
• 1994 – Internet2 organization created
• 1994 – Home satellite service DirecTV launched on June 17th
• 1994 – An initiative by Vice President Gore raised the NOAA Weather Radio warning coverage to 95 percent of the US populace.
• 1995 – The Weather Underground website was launched
• 1995 – DSL (Digital Subscriber Line) began to be implemented in the USA
• 1996 – Home satellite service Dish Network launched on March 4th
• 1996 – Fox News Channel was launched on October 7, 1996 with 24 hour news coverage
• 1996 – The Movie “Twister” was released on May 10, showing the drama and science of severe weather chasing in the USA midwest.
• 1999 – Dr. Kevin Trenberth posts a report and web essay titled The Extreme Weather Events of 1997 and 1998 citing “global greenhouse warming” as a cause. Trenberth recognizes “wider coverage” but dismisses it saying:   “While we are indeed exposed to more and ever-wider coverage of the weather, the nature of some of the records being broken suggests a deeper explanation: that real changes are under way.”
• 2002 – Google News page was launched in March. It was later updated to so that users can request e-mail “alerts” on various keyword topics by subscribing to Google News Alerts.
• 2004 – December: A freak snowstorm hits the southernmost parts of Texas and Louisiana, dumping snow into regions that do not normally witness winter snowfall during the hours leading up to December 25 in what is called the 2004 Christmas Eve Snowstorm.
• 2004 – DSL began to become widely accepted in the USA, making broadband Internet connections affordable to most homes.
• 2004 – On November 19, the Website “Real Climate” was introduced, backed by Fenton communications, to sell the idea of climate change from “real scientists”.
• 2004 – December The website “Climate Audit” was launched.
• 2005 – August, Hurricane Katrina caused catastrophic damage along the Gulf Coast of the United States, forcing the effective abandonment of southeastern Louisiana (including New Orleans) for up to 2 months and damaging oil wells that sent gas prices in the U.S. to an all-time record high. Katrina killed at least 1,836 people and caused at least $75 billion US in damages, making it one of the costliest natural disasters of all time. TV viewers worldwide watched the storm strike in real time, Internet coverage was also timely and widespread.
• 2006 – Al Gore’s movie An Inconvenient Truth premiered at the 2006 Sundance Film Festival and opening in New York City and Los Angeles on May 24. It went on to limited theater release and home view DVD. It was the first entertainment film about global warming as a “crisis”, with hurricane Katrina prominently featured as “result” of global warming.
• 2006 – The short instant message service Twitter was launched July 15, 2006
• 2006 – November 17th, Watts Up With That was launched.
• 2007 – The iPhone, with graphics and Twitter instant messaging capabilities was released on June 29, 2007.
• 2007 – The reality show “Storm Chasers” debuts on the Discovery channel on October 17, 2007, showing severe weather pursuit as entertainment.
• 2007 – On October 10th, in Dimmock v Secretary of State for Education and Skills Al Gore’s AIT moviewas challenged in a UK court, and found to have nine factual errors. It was the first time “science as movie” had been legally challenged.
• The 2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak was a deadly tornado outbreak affecting the Southern United States and the lower Ohio Valley from February 5 to February 6, 2008. With more than 80 confirmed tornados and 58 deaths, the outbreak was the deadliest in the U.S. since the May 31, 1985 outbreak that killed 76 across Ohio and Pennsylvania. It was widely covered live on US media.
• 2010 – A heat wave in Russia was widely reported by global media as being directly a result of “global warming”. Scientific research from NOAA released later in 2010 and 2011 showed that to be a false claim.
• 2011 – On January 4th, the Pew Research Center released a poll showing that Internet had surpassed television as the preferred source for news, especially among younger people.
• 2011  – March, notice of an Earthquake off the coast of Japan was blogged near real-time thanks to a USGS email message alert before TV news media picked up the story, followed by a Tsunami warning. A Japanese TV news helicopter with live feed was dispatched and showed the Tsunami live as it approached the coast of Japan and hit the beaches. Carried by every major global news outlet, plus live streamed on the Internet, it was the first time a Tsunami of this magnitude was seen live on global television before it impacted land.
  Watts Up With That? The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change

Compare the reach and speed of communications and news reporting at the beginning of this timeline to the reach and speed of communications and news reporting technology around the beginning of the 20th century. Then compare that to the beginning of the 21st century. Compare again to what we’ve seen in the last 10 years.

With such global coverage, instant messaging, and Internet enabled phones with cameras now, is it any wonder that nothing related to severe weather or disaster escapes our notice any more? Certainly, without considering the technological change in our society, it would seem as if severe weather events and disasters are becoming much more frequent.

While it is a fact that global warming and other issues are really happening, the frequency is no more frequent than in the past. So don't let lying COG false prophets frighten you with their stupidity. 

The Great Bwana writes:

Weather is not as random as most seem to want to believe.

Are weather calamities totally random? Does God control the weather? What does the Bible say? Are there biblical prophecies for weather blessings and weather curses? Are those affected by hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis, droughts, and floods necessarily worse sinners than those not as affect? Does God use weather to try to get people to change or repent?

As regular readers of this page are aware, I have repeatedly warned of weather problems coming. Back in 2009, in my book, 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect, I wrote that the following was about to happen: 

 

Odd weather patterns result in food shortages and natural disasters. Matthew 24:7

The world is actually in a berserk transition, as the real age of peace is not yet here. It may be a period of chaos. It is the beginning of sorrows. Matthew 24:8

Since that was published, we have had record smashing heat and odd weather problems. These weather issues should serve as a wake-up call.

The Great Bwana wants you to know that all of these severe weather issues are because his god is pissed off that you are refusing to follow him and his improperly named "continuing" Church of "god". Shame on you sinners! Bobs the man! Heed his warning!

The Bible is clear that God controls the weather and various calamities, but wants people to heed His prophets:

6… If there is calamity in a city, will not the Lord have done it?

7 Surely the Lord God does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. (Amos 3:6-7) 

 

The Bible tells of weather-related blessings for obedience and weather-related curses for disobedience. Weather is not as random as many people seem to want to believe. 

 

The Bible shows: 

30 God … commands all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30) 

 

And weather-problems are one tool that God uses to urge people to repent (cf. Haggai 2:17; Amos 4:7-12). But most will not. Nor will most Christians as they should (cf. Revelation 3:14-18; see also The Laodicean Church Era). 

Most will ignore weather changes and simply believe that weather changes all the time and the changes do not have to do with God or disobeying His laws.
Jesus taught:

7…And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Matthew 24:7-8).

8 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows. (Mark 13:8) 

 

The sorrows and troubles are just beginning and will get much worse. 

 

Severe weather is consistent with the troubles that Jesus spoke of. 

 

The Bible teaches that weird, severe, and odd weather patterns are part of the warning messages that God gives. 

 

Are you paying attention to those messages?

Severe weather happens. It does. It however is not a sign for the self-appointed make-believe prophets of the COG to start spouting nonsense.

Thus Sayeth The Lord??????? Crackpot Prophet Still Incapable Of Making An Accurate Prediction

 

Never in the history of the Church of God have we had such wishy-washy prophets in our midst. In between all the hand flouncing, pulpit pounding, and jig dancing, not a single one of them has the testicular fortitude to actually make a definitive prophetic statement while resting assured that their god would do what they say it will. Instead, we get a lot of "could it be", "might be's", and a lot of "what if's". When one looks at prophets of old in scriptures, when they made a propehcy you had better be damned sure you listened or your could kiss your ass good-bye. Not so with today's self-appointed pretenders. Not a single one of them, from Bob Thiel to Ron Weinland has ever made a prophecy that actually passed, or will ever pass at some point in the future. 

That doesn't stop them though. 

We now have Dave Pack predicting his creature he calls "christ" will be here right after the Feast of Tabernacles this year. The eminent return of his creature always keeps getting bumped up to some future date.

Gerald Flurry says his creature called "christ" is returning within a matter of months. In the meantime, he sends his grandkids off to dance the dance of David while spending hundreds of thousands of dollars promoting his Jesus-stone. Flurry's creature still cannot figure out when it is supposed to return.

Ron Weinland's creature has been delayed since 2008 and is still waiting for Ron to tell him when to return.

And then there is the Great Bwana to Africa and 299 Caucasians. Being self-appointed apparently does not bring any wisdom along with it. The Bwana has to be one of the most wishy-washy namby-pamby prophets we have ever had. All we get out of him is a lot of "could be's", "maybe's" and "what if's." Even his creature he calls "christ" is so confused that even it doesn't know when to return.

In COGland the return of Jesus is almost like he is waiting by the Power Ball machine for his number to pop up.

The Bwana is back with his own predictions after first mocking those that have failed. For some reason, he never lists his epic failures. Instead, he covers his lily-white butt by making broad statements hoping that somehow his dart will hit the board, which it never does.

Great Tribulation: 2026 or 2027?
Many have falsely claimed that the Great Tribulation either was in the first century A.D. or would come in many different years prior to now. Could the Great Tribulation occur next year or not? What is the earliest year that the Great Tribulation could come? Why is 2022-2024 impossible? Why does 2025 seem unlikely? What are the possible reasons for 2026 or 2027? What about confirmation of the peace deal by a prince in Daniel 9:27? What about the emergence of European King of the North and a Middle Eastern/North African King of the South? What about animal sacrifices, the red heifer, and the Temple Institute? How might the date of Jesus’ execution and resurrection be involved? Might there be a six/seven thousand year plan? How could that tie to the words of Peter and those in the Book of Hebrews regarding the last days? Who is the Beast of the sea, the King of the North? Could the final Antichrist be a type of antipope who falsely claims Roman Catholicism? What about pestilences, the ride of the fourth horseman of Apocalypse, and the opening of the fifth seal of the Book of Revelation. Dr. Thiel covers these and other matters and gives rationale, why, if the signs that Jesus referred to are seen before then, that 2026 or 2027 could be the start of the devastating Great Tribulation. He also quotes the late Herbert W. Armstrong about it starting with a nuclear attack against the UK, USA, and/or Canada. Dr. Thiel quotes Jesus’ promise of protection for Philadelphian Christians. He also summarizes several important signs to watch for, consistent with Jesus’ words in Mark 13.

 

Neville Stevens: that other failed prophet to the Church of God

 Neville Stevens

Back in the mid 2000's, there was a very active alt.religion.w-w-church-god newsgroup that was filled with some of the craziest Armstrongites ever to exist (at least till Bob Thiel came on the scene).  It was led by Neville Stevens, another self-appointed prophet to the Church of God. Stevens was the "Tony Almo" of the Church of God. When he wrote articles it was like reading Tony Almo's crazy stuff from the 80's and 90's. He had his own cult break off called Zion Ministry and its mission was to:

Zion Ministry teaches Bible Prophecy

To the Churches of God, the Tribes of Israel, and the world.

The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is soon to become a reality!

Stevens had a loyal band of followers who called themselves the "Levite Brotherhood – the Sons of Jerusalem". They were crazier than hell and xCOG members who participated in the newsgroup had a field day pushing their buttons. They were gearing up for an end-time blood bath where they would be slaughtering all disobedient Laodiceans by the sword before the invading Germans and Muslims killed off the other lukewarm COG members. They seemed to relish the idea of killing wayward COG members. Of course like any good Armstrongite, they were soon to be made into gods and goddesses where they would rule the world with an iron fist dispensing HWA and Stevens teachings.

After writing numerous long-winded articles, much like what Bob Thiel does, Stevens stopped his so-called prophetic ministry because he had preached the final witness and it would soon be time for the Laodiceans and those that mocked him and his followers to be killed off as the end time was soon to hit the fan.

That was 2012. Ten years later and here we all are. No one has been killed by them. After threatening me for close to 8 years that I would die a horrible death on Passover eve, I am still here, being a pain in the ass for the uber-right Armstrongists. One of them even said he was coming to Los Angeles to kill me by the sword. I told him to let me know when he arrived and I would pick him up at the airport. Alas, he never showed up. It was such a disappointing weekend.

Neville Stevens lies are very similar to Bob Thiels, Pack, Flurry's, and others in COG prophet/apostleland, and as usual, his prophecies all failed. The sad part about Stevens Zion Ministry was that it was positive proof that COG members would and will fall for anything that makes them feel special and called out.

For some reason, his last letter to the church popped up on my newsfeed this week. Maybe it was his god trying to tell me something!

Here are a few tidbits from the 2012 final letter to the church. If you take the words "zion ministry " out and substitute Continuing Church of God, you would never know the difference. Fake COG prophets all speak the same way.

The truth is that since this Zion Ministry began exactly 14 years ago, to the very day as I write, much Bible prophecy has been fulfilled and is rapidly proceeding.   This ministry began as a prophetic ministry and has continued ever since.  The purpose and function of it was to warn the Churches of God, the 12 Tribes of Israel and the world of what to expect, and to explain the Scriptures in order that whoever might listen might be spared the horror they now face.  Did anyone imagine that with such ominous disasters pending that will result in the deaths of millions of people – including His people Israel, no less – that God wouldn’t send a prophet to warn?  Well, He did send a prophet at the appointed time; He sent me!  And I have done as I’ve been commanded.  All that I’ve written was under the instructions of God Almighty.  I’m merely the instrument in His hands.  Nothing more – and nothing less!  The difference between me and the many false, self-proclaimed prophets is that I believedGod always and never deviated from this belief for any reason.  And the other difference is that I was taught by God Himself!  I’ve merely taught others what God has taught me, thereby leaving aside all the pseudo doctrines and sanctimonious nonsense that vain preachers find so compelling to their congregations.  Never mind that these vain creatures are leading others to their deaths, thereby depriving them of life!  If you are still in awe of the flowery, pathetic nonsense taught by your local preacher as he endeavours to entice you to follow him, then like Humpty-dumpty you’re about to take a great fall.  These mealy-mouthed weaklings will take you nowhere – except to your doom!

Stevens was big-time into conspiracy theories and outlandish beliefs.  He claimed to know how the kingdom of God would look in the new world to come. All of the land masses would migrate back to their original state, forming a pyramid in the face of what I assume is a flat earth, since so many COG members now believe the earth is flat.

If all the landmass around the arctic in the north were migrated southward and then brought together so that west meets east, and then all the western and eastern landmasses were migrated back towards Jerusalem, what you would see is a single landmass in the shape of a triangle or pyramid.  This migration of the continents would displace the Atlantic and Indian Oceans and all the inland seas, leaving the Pacific Ocean as the only ocean.  The most southerly part of this inverse triangle would be Antarctica.  So why did David use twopyramid shapes interwoven together?  He was showing us what the face of the earth once looked like, and what it has become.  It was through DAVIDthat we learn that God is going to RENEW THE FACE OF THE EARTH – which is of course the landmass!  Another interesting point is that when the original landmass is migrated back to what it once was, then Jerusalem becomes the exact center of it (see Eze 5:5).  The reason David included two interwoven Pyramid shapes was to indicate that one of these shapes will emerge as the original, with the chief cornerstone (the uppermost block on a pyramid) will be pointing to the north.  Presently the chief cornerstone is in the extreme south – Antarctica no less!  It’s to be hoped that all readers are familiar with the Scriptures which identify the Lord Jesus as the Chief Cornerstone.  Americans can look at their dollar bill and see the illuminated upper-stone of the Pyramid.  This Illuminated Rock represents Jesus Christ, and God inspired its use on the dollar bill for the purpose of reminding Americans who they are in the annals of Bible Prophecy.

Further evidence of this is found when God speaks to His servant Job about the foundation or landmass of the earth:  Job 38:6-7 “Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!  Who stretched a measuring line across it? ⁶ On what were its footings set, or who laid its CORNERSTONE-- ⁷ while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?”  The reference to the angels shouting for joy clearly shows that God is speaking about the original creation of the landmass, which has a specific form that required a measuring-line to ensure a perfect shape with straight sides or boundaries.

If that wasn't crazy enough for you he then goes on to tell us how in the Antarctic there was a fantastical world that Admiral Richard Byrd discovered with palm trees, rivers, cities, flowering gardens, and so much more craziness. That amazing area was actually a UFO base for enlightened beings who were actually the place where demons lived openly in this world.

All these things raise the question of Antarctica – the original upper bloc of the single landmass which is illuminated on the dollar bill.  It seems to be a trackless wasteland of snow and ice today.  I don’t know how many of our readers are familiar with the exploits of Admiral Richard Byrd, who led an expedition to the ANTARCTIC with a huge armada of ships and aircraft.  Afterwards he gave a report to both the President and the Pentagon which stunned them, and resulted in them deciding to sideline the Admiral.  They held him for many hours under questioning, and some wanted to lock him up in a madhouse.  What did he say in this report that so shocked everyone?

 

The whole story of the Admiral’s experience was recorded in his diary and was finally published in 1959, two years after his death in 1957.  The substance of the report he gave on his return to the President and the Pentagon is that he met with a being that referred to himself as ‘The Master”.  Admiral Byrd had piloted one of a squadron of planes from one of the carriers.  He had two navigators with him.  The planes explored different parts of the Antarctic continent.  The other planes all arrived back on time, but Admiral Byrd’s plane was three hours late and was feared missing.  At the very least, his fuel supply would have run out, but then suddenly the plane appeared and landed.

 

There’s reenacted documentary footage which can be viewed here, and which explains everything that was purported to have happened.  It’s not actual footage but a reenactment of the circumstances spoken of in Admiral Byrd’s diary.

 

Part 2.  The untold UFO war in Antarctica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn0prGhLCR8&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Part 3.  The untold UFO war in Antarctica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=LSd0Sm0SA7w&NR=1

 

Regardless of what you think of these events, just bear in mind that Admiral Byrd was a very creditable witness, and he had two other witnesses with him on this flight, who confirmed these things.  While all this was happening, they were actually reporting everything by radio to their base – which drew gasps of astonishment.  The being whom the Admiral met called himself ‘The Master’, so this story indicates that Satan has a base in Antarctica – the very place where he exhibited delusions of grandeur for himself, along with the ambition to take over the Throne of Almighty God.  The real significance of this would not be realized without knowing what Antarctica represents on the original FACE OF THE EARTH, which is to be renewed.

 

Incidentally, after Admiral Byrd’s return to the aircraft carrier, a war broke out against the ships and planes under his command, and this is what the above footage is about.  Some 4,000 personnel witnessed the attack by UFO’s.  There were dozens of casualties.   The whole expedition was immediately abandoned after only two months of the planned six month event.  Equipment and ammunition was abandoned in their haste to leave.

 

If you watched the above YouTube clips, you will notice that this ‘Master’ as he describes himself to Admiral Byrd, claims to be a benevolent visitor from outer space, and one who espouses peace and goodwill to all men.  Yet no sooner does Admiral Byrd arrive back on the aircraft carrier, this ‘Master’ launches an unprovoked attack on them resulting in dozens of casualties and severe damage to the fleet, which resulted in them running away like scared rabbits.

For close to 14 years, Stevens preached his craziness and like Bob Thiel, garnered hardly any COG members to join his cult. This irritated him very much and he and his followers got sick of the mocking. Stevens got so fed up that he told all COG members that they were now on their own.

The Creator God has made His position clear to everyone, so all are without excuse.  God gave His people Israel the choice between life and death, and counseled them to choose life.  Today, more than ever, that choice is before you, and from now on you’re on your own to make that choice.  Before you prepare yourself for conquest, be sure and certain you have God’s Holy Spirit or your fate will be to return to dust - forever!  Perhaps we, the Brotherhood, will see you in our Father’s Kingdom!

 

May God be with you!

 

Neville V. Stevens 

(Representing the Levite Brotherhood – the Sons of Jerusalem)

Stevens is just another example of why no one believes Bob Thiel, Dave Pack. Gerald Flurry, and the rest of the pseudoprophets and apostles to the church. They are all liars. 

You can read his final letter here and access the rest of his writings.

See previous articles on Banned about him: 

Neville Stevens: Proof That Armstrongites Will Believe Anything!

Neville Stevens: Cyrus the Great Was A Demon....

COG Splinter Cult Leader Hates Abraham Lincoln

50 Million Demons Are Flying Space Ships Around The Earth Right Now