Dave Pack: Nothing New...but we have 38 days to go

 

Part 550: Nothing New

After taking a personal two-month hiatus from reporting on The Restored Church of God, I began listening to sermons again, starting with Part 545. It was screaming obvious that nothing the Pastor General said during Parts 534 through 544 was of ANY consequence because he perpetually changed the story and re-reads the same verses while drumming up tired excuses for his long list of blunders.

This exercise proved that you can stop listening to messages for months and jump back in without missing a beat. Returning to Part 545 confirmed my suspicions.

David C. Pack is still painfully boring.

With over 300 articles on exrcg.org, what could I possibly say that has not already been stated?

Oh, look. He thinks that is him in the Bible, not Jesus Christ.
Oh, look. He is teaching something impossible to argue with until he argues it the following week.
Oh, look. Daniel has been unsealed, resealed, and unsealed again.
Oh, look. He discovered something no other human being has ever known or thought to look at.
Oh, look. He is super special, and God is working with him to teach X-Y-Z.

Just because David C. Pack is self-cursed to spend the rest of his miserable days ignorantly repetitive does not mean I must follow suit.

His consistent lies, blasphemies, deceits, foolishness, spiritual corruptions, expressed mental disorders, and delusions have already been thoroughly exposed. Shame on those who ignore David C. Pack’s words.

“The Greatest Untold Story!” now stands at Part 550, proving David C. Pack has nothing new to say.

 

I took a break because Dave is boring. How could I continue to analyze while remaining engaging and funny when the source material is just bland, recycled malarkey? I also lost hope for those still attending The Restored Church of God that they will ever escape. I have already helped those who can be helped.

At this point, those who opt to remain in that spiritually bankrupt and biblically corrupt organization are so mentally broken they are beyond reach. They willfully ignore the Bibles in their laps, close their eyes to the clear warnings that manifest before them, stop their ears from truly hearing, and have chosen to be lambs for the slaughter of vile men. Their blood is upon their own heads.

Here is a summary of Parts 545 through 550 for the skimmers:

Part 545 – Jesus Christ Will Return December 16, 2024.
Part 546 – Jesus Christ Will Maybe Return on January 15, 2025.
Part 547 – Jesus Christ Will Maybe Return on December 31, 2024.
Part 548 – Jesus Christ Will Return on March 29, 2025.
Part 549 – Jesus Christ Will Return on February 13, 2025.
Part 550 – Jesus Christ Will Return on January 29, 2025.

Yawn. More dates for the return of Jesus Christ that took longer to study than for Dave to believe them. We made it all the way to Part 550, and David C. Pack revealed that he still had nothing new to say.

 

The inexplicable madness of The Restored Church of God continues. A prime example of the religious lunacy the members are willing to endure centers around Pastor General David C. Pack declaring that the start of the 1335 in the book of Daniel brings salvation and Jesus Christ on December 16, 2024.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 545)” on November 16, 2024, he taught “impossible it’s wrong” proofs and promised even more evidence was coming. That further evidence never came.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 546)” on November 23, 2024, Dave expressed doubt about the previous teaching by suggesting it could happen instead on January 15, 2024.

Part 546 – November 23, 2024

@ 51:37 So then, the question becomes: Do the 1335 and 1290 day periods or 1335 and 1260 days best complete the picture God is building of the one week? Put another way, are we waiting for December 16^th or January 15^th? That’s a question.

 

@ 1:15:26 So, God will tell us which day. I’m pretty sure I know ‘cause I haven’t told you more than a fraction of what I put together. Enough said from me on January 15^th for now.

 

Actually, that was enough on January 15 forever because Dave abandoned it immediately, proving he did not know anything.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 547)” on November 30, 2024, Dave threw out all he taught about a January 15 possibility to declare the 1335 still occurred on December 16, but salvation would not come until December 31.

Part 547 – November 23, 2024
@ 1:03:48 But I not only think we tarry, I think I know how long. But I'm not sure. And God may have written it the way He did until someday when His servant, the one who's racing to call it out, would figure it out and be able to tell the church. So, I’m gonna give you my opinion.

Dave figured nothing out. He has been racing for nine years, blathering nonsense and falsehoods.

@ 1:38:21 So, I still fervently hope the 1335 begins the Kingdom that there’s no that there’s no delay. I hope it. But, if you had to ask me what do I believe, I do not believe it’s gonna happen. I wish it would.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 548)” on December 7, 2024, Dave threw out all his recycled malarkey about a New Year's Eve possibility to declare the 1335 did still occur on December 16… but had to give a “heartbreaking” caveat that “haunted him.” Members of The Restored Church of God MAY need to wait until March 29, 2025.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 549)” on December 14, 2024, Dave threw out all he teased about March 29, 2025, to "prove" they are actually waiting for February 13, 2025.

Part 549 – December 14, 2024
@ 07:55 You’re thinking the Kingdom is either Monday or Abib 1 ‘cause I had all these proofs of Abib 1 and one month and so forth. What if I could show with the first document we gave it to you last, the long one under your seat, that it may be neither. What if I could show you that?

All the foolish dopes who actually took their Pastor General at face value were reaffirmed as idiots one week later, further emphasizing the reality they should take notes with a pencil and not a pen.

@ 1:18:43 We’re supposta see the day approaching. I do see it approaching. It just didn't look like Monday, and I couldn't I couldn't reconcile it. And after all this time, God intervened and showed me when the Messiah really was selected.

God did not intervene. God showed David C. Pack nothing. Seven days later, his words exposed him again as a man falsely speaking with God's authority and in His name.

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One week later, during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 550)” on December 21, 2024, Dave threw out all he taught about February 13, 2025, to “prove” they are actually waiting for Shevat 1, which is January 29, 2025.

Part 550 – December 21, 2024
@ 59:24 Well, let me just tell ya before we start. It appears we will not make it to February 13^th or even to February. I made two remarkable discoveries recorded by two prophets. And they’re almost they’re almost silly simple.

He framed the doctrinal shift as two remarkable discoveries, not 45 minutes of remarkable errors. He also gaslights and manipulates the brethren by hiding behind his private interpretations of the Bible.

@ 1:00:18 So, I’m not gonna I’m not gonna make any pronouncements here because I don’t have to.

@ 1:21:08 But what I’m trying to do is tell you I’m not giving you a date. I’m [chuckles] the Bible is doing this. In fact, it’s up to you… to see the day approaching.

@ 1:24:40 “Thought it delay, wait for it. It’ll surely come and not tarry.” It cannot go past Shevat 1. It’s impossible.

@ 1:25:23 You’re not left with what Mr. Pack said. I love ya’ll dearly, but shame on you if you do that. What do you think? What do you think?

I think David C. Pack cannot be trusted. He is not a man of his word even while he proclaims to speak on God’s authority. He is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar not led by the Holy Spirit and can never be right about the timing of the return of Jesus Christ.

Selfish, compromised enablers like Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, Carl Houk, and Ryan Denee have their greedy reasons for supporting the madness at Headquarters while the brethren of The Restored Church of God are stuck in the reality loop they could escape from if they genuinely believed their Bibles.

During my two-month respite, I had two great laments:

1) It is too bad The Restored Church of God never sued me because I would have loved to prove to the State of Ohio that David C. Pack is a false apostle, false prophet, and false teacher desperately in need of professional mental health services.

2) I would have rejoiced being invited across the street to sit at the table with David C. Pack in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium. Surrounded by tie-wearing corrupted mollusks, I could say to David C. Pack's face the very things I have written in 285 articles. Reading his own foolish, blasphemous words back to him would be a joy. I have envisioned a cowardly Dave standing up with his hands on his hips and his ears blazing red as he verbally blasts me, then abruptly stomps out of the room with Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy scurrying after him.

If only…

It should be clear by now that after 550 Parts, David C. Pack has nothing new to say. No wonder listening to him and taking notes feels like tedious homework. He covers the same verses over and over, often repeating his ridiculous conclusions that he forgot he already discovered.

While trudging through the dismal swamp that is The Restored Church of God, we can look forward to the approaching ten years of continual nothingness.

When the inevitable Part 600 surely comes, rest assured that David C. Pack will still be boring and has nothing new to say.

Marc Cebrian

See: Part 550: Nothing New

Jeremiah 10:3-5 and COG Myths

 

It is hard to believe that here we are in 2024, and we are still surrounded by ordained men in COGland who still believe that Jeremiah 10:3-5 is talking about cutting down pine trees and decorating them for Christmas. But because Herbert said so, it has to be true! So let it be said, so let it be done!

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Modern-day Church of God heretics like Bob Thiel and Gerald Flurry are still beating that drum to death. But then, telling the truth has never been a strong point for either of them due to their erroneous theological understanding.

Even the United Church of God still beats that drum, all the while, some of their ministers celebrated Christmas and had trees when still in WCG. Apparently, leopards easily change their spots when a paycheck is involved.

Look at how UCG dances around Jeremiah 10:

Regrettably, the Israelites failed to permanently heed God's warning. Time and time again they let their fascination with the religious practices of those around them get the better of them as they lapsed into idolatrous worship. 

 

Around 600 B.C. God gave three more warnings against this kind of behavior. First, through the prophet Jeremiah, God said, 'Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them' (Jeremiah 10:2). Here God cautioned His people against following the gentile (non-Israelite) practices of worshiping the heavenly bodies (like the sun on Dec. 25) and against astrology in general. 

 

In the following verses (Jeremiah 10:3-5), God describes some of their idolatrous customs. They cut a tree from the forest, shaped it with an ax and overlaid it with precious metals. Although this account is specifically referring to the making of an idol (Jeremiah 10:6-8), God's command, 'Do not learn the way of the Gentiles,' applies to all pagan customs. Christmas trees, mistletoe and colorful lights that come from pagan winter-solstice celebrations, rabbits and Easter eggs as fertility symbols, and demonic concepts at Halloween, all fit this prohibition. In giving this instruction against learning the way of the gentiles, God wanted His people to avoid the type of sin their forefathers had committed with the golden calf.

UCG (and Bob Thiel/Gerald Flurry) completely ignores one major FACT of Jeremiah 10:3-5. It is NOT talking about a Christmas tree but an idol carved from a tree and covered in silver and gold that was hammered into place to give the idol human or animal characteristics that people bowed down to in worship. First or second-year Bible students in any good seminary learn this, but Armstrongism cannot.

Exit and Support Network had this:

Herbert Armstrong taught that Jeremiah 10:3-5 was talking about “Christmas trees”; however, if one reads the chapter in context, it is clear that God is speaking about the heathen custom of idolatry, not Christmas trees. 

 

The verses are actually directed toward the house of Israel and refers to regulating one’s life according to the Zodiac or being troubled by such things as eclipses or comets, which were believed by these idolatrous nations to be signs of coming events given by the gods. Verse 5 is talking about how the idols they were carving out of trees had eyes, ears, mouth, legs and feet, but they could not speak and had to be carried from one place to another. Israel also covered these idols with blue and purple clothing (verse 9). A similar reference is seen in Habakkuk 2:19: “Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it.” 

 

Worldliness, drunkenness, revelry, covetousness and idolatry are condemned in the Bible, but HWA made it sound like everyone who did something on “pagan” holidays was guilty of such. HWA emphasized the negative elements in society in order to isolate people into his exclusive group. This fostered judgmental attitudes, self-righteousness, pride, and a lack of love and compassion toward others. 

 

Christmas can be used as a time to show love and kindness to friends and family if one chooses; i.e., eating dinner with others, or spending time together, something members avoided for many years while under the control of the group leader, and which caused much division and hurt feelings. They can also be an opportunity to help the less fortunate.

Jeremiah 10:6-10 continues on with this: 

6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O Lord; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.
9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.
10 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

All of the neighboring idols decked out in their gold, silver, and purple clothes are just the work of mere men, both of which will decay and pass away, but the God of Israel will always remain Lord of all gods. 

Jermiah10:14-15 states:

14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.

Here is how the Message paraphrases it:

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“Tell them this, ‘The stick gods
who made nothing, neither sky nor earth,
Will come to nothing
on the earth and under the sky.’”
But it is God whose power made the earth,
whose wisdom gave shape to the world,
who crafted the cosmos.
He thunders, and rain pours down.
He sends the clouds soaring.
He embellishes the storm with lightnings,
launches wind from his warehouse.
Stick-god worshipers looking mighty foolish,
god-makers embarrassed by their handmade gods!
Their gods are frauds—dead sticks,
deadwood gods, tasteless jokes.

When the fires of judgment come, they’ll be ashes.

The stick gods of men like Thiel, Flurry, Pack, and others in COGland are handmade foolish embarrassments. They are guaranteed to pass away, no matter how much they dress them up and embellish them.

Oh Come, O Come Emmanuel

 

1 O come, O come, Immanuel,

and ransom captive Israel

that mourns in lonely exile here

until the Son of God appear.

Refrain:

Rejoice! Rejoice! Immanuel

shall come to you, O Israel.

2 O come, O Wisdom from on high,

who ordered all things mightily;

to us the path of knowledge show

and teach us in its ways to go. Refrain

3 O come, O come, great Lord of might,

who to your tribes on Sinai's height

in ancient times did give the law

in cloud and majesty and awe. Refrain

4 O come, O Branch of Jesse's stem,

unto your own and rescue them!

From depths of hell your people save,

and give them victory o'er the grave. Refrain

5 O come, O Key of David, come

and open wide our heavenly home.

Make safe for us the heavenward road

and bar the way to death's abode. Refrain

6 O come, O Bright and Morning Star,

and bring us comfort from afar!

Dispel the shadows of the night

and turn our darkness into light. Refrain

7 O come, O King of nations, bind

in one the hearts of all mankind.

Bid all our sad divisions cease

and be yourself our King of Peace. Refrain 

Psalter Hymnal (Gray)