Tuesday, December 16, 2014

Living Church of God Says There Is Splattered Blood On Christmas Trees

The Living Church of God has another ridiculous article up about Christmas.  This time the personalty cult is claiming that the red on Christmas trees symbolizes splatted blood.  Long red ribbons symbolize the "flowing blood of pagan temple priests who ran around slashing their bodies.

The man-god Attis, after an unsuccessful courtship of the goddess Cybele, mutilated himself, “under a pine-tree, and bled to death on the spot. ... After his death Attis is said to have been changed into a pine-tree … [in worship practices] a pine-tree was cut in the woods and brought into the sanctuary of Cybele, where it was treated as a great divinity … Stirred by the wild barbaric music of clashing cymbals, rumbling drums, droning horns, and screaming flutes, the inferior clergy whirled about in the dance with waggling heads and streaming hair, until, rapt into a frenzy of excitement and insensible to pain, they gashed their bodies with potsherds or slashed them with knives in order to bespatter the altar and the sacred tree with their flowing blood.” (The Golden Bough, Sir James George Frazer, “The Myth and Ritual of Attis” Chapter 34).

Attis’ bloody act under an evergreen tree, along with—as the historical record points out—subsequent duplications by Attis worshippers, has provided paganism with its seasonal red and green motifs.


Black Ops Mikey said...

This conveniently ignores the blood on the hands of the leadership of the LCG.

Isn't that worse?

Black Ops Mikey said...

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Byker Bob said...

Oh, I am sure they would prefer that the blood would be from pigs or other unclean animals, too. Anything to just beat thie holiday season into the ground.


Retired Prof said...

Just as you can't depend on the etymology of a word to determine its "true" meaning, you can't depend on some supposed original function of a symbol to determine its "true" meaning. It is the nature of symbols to mean whatever its users (its producers and receivers) agree that it means.

If a symbol has different meanings in different cultures separated by time and/or space, we have to consider the context in which a particular instance of was used. For example, among Navajos, Jainists, Hindus, and the ancient Aryans, the swastika evoked positive attributes. But when the National Socialist Party co-opted the Aryan version, they changed the meaning so thoroughly that hardly anyone recognizes any of the earlier ones.

The same with red on Christmas trees. Nobody even remembers the bloody rituals of Attis any more. Therefore, in their current context, red Christmas ornaments cannot possibly retain the associations Frazer attributes to them in ancient times.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Prof.

These doofuses believe that telling you a "meaning" (and especially from a "respected" source like THE GOLDEN BOUGH) signifies that ANYTHING remotely similar means EVERYTHING described there.

What are they really telling us? "This is what WE take it to mean, so we can feel more righteous than you."

Hey, LCGers! Go ahead. I don't care.

Anonymous said...

I find this association failing on several levels:

There were soooo many other wintertime rituals down through time in cultures all over the world doing something associated with decorated oak trees, evergreen trees, or faux "trees" fabricated out of branches, and more. Attis & Cybele is just one of them.

The cult of Cybele, which had become an official Roman cult lost its official status in 394, whereupon it began to collapse.

According to Wikipedia, "While it is clear that the modern Christmas tree originated during the Renaissance of early modern Germany, there are a number of speculative theories as to its ultimate origin." So there was no such thing as a "christmas" tree for only the first 1200 years of christianity? And when it did finally appear during the renaissance, the inspiration for it was, well, what exactly? Why is the Attis & Cybele myth being so strongly credited? People weren't terribly educated at that time. Is there any evidence that anybody in renaissance-era Germania had ever heard of Attis?

So a lot of very specific claims are being made here, such as the one about the "red" specifically symbolizing the blood of Attis. Well, what the hell are Renaissance-era Germans doing worshiping Attis & Cybele hundreds of years after the cult presumably died out?

Unless these claims and specific links can be shown to have actual historical support, we really should reject them as mere speculation.

I think it's interesting and intriguing that so many cultures decorate trees in the winter. However, to assume that by decorating a tree yourself in the winter, you are unwittingly, by default, worshiping every pagan god that's ever been connected to a tree-ritual seems like a daft conclusion to draw! Sounds like the rantings of the febrile ├╝berfundamentalist mind, so common in Armstrongism.

RSK said...

So.. is this what Abraham did in his grove?

RSK said...

And not to belabor the point, but since the High Priest of Israel would sprinkle blood on the ark of the covenant in the fall, would that make it the precedent to what the priests of Attis did in Phyrigia about 800 years later? Because that's how this sort of reasoning (if you can call it that) works!

Byker Bob said...

RSK: In typical Armstrongite reasoning, if a similar pagan ritual preceded one of the approved rituals of the Israelites, then it was because Satan was familiar with God's ways, and developed his counterfeits in advance. If a pagan ritual came into play after the Israelites were commanded to keep a similar one, then it was because Satan's deceptions and perversions had crept in over time due to mankind's rebellious nature. As with Dana Carvey's church lady character, anything that wasn't part of the Armstrongs' carefully picked and chosen routine was automatically attributed to Satan, and in practice, the offending practices were things that Jesus could not purify, heal, sublimate or protect from. Members were required to constantly seek out and destroy any vestiges of paganism in their lives. And, as we know, the pagans had a long and rich history, and did virtually everything that man does today.

In the Armstrong world view, evolution towards a higher state did not exist. Only degeneracy.


Anonymous said...

The only argument against that RSK, is that since there's no archaeological support for any of the tales in the Torah, or Joshua, or Judges, and only barest glimmer of archaeological support, not for a King David, but for a "house of David," we really have little justification to think we know what the "Jewish" people were doing 800 years before.

In all likelihood they were still worshiping El, head of the Canaanitic pantheon, among others.

We don't even have sufficient evidence that any of the books of the old testament had been written by 600 BC.

Anonymous said...

Well, since humans are derived from homo heidelbergensis and other forms of homo sapiens, the fact that some fairly recent members of the species chose to place significance on pine trees seems rather inconsequential, no?

James said...

If the truth be known, the red on a Christmas tree (if it be ornament or something else) symbolizes the death cult of Armstrongism.

You see, the cult of Armstrongism was about death. To be happy and balanced in this cult was forbidden. You had to hate yourself and your family.

The love of money could not exist because the cult members had none. So they lived in misery and abject poverty in order to maintain the deities love and forgiveness.

So we honor the memory and suffering of these heretics every-time we erect a Christmas tree with red on it.


See, even I can make shit up playing their stupid game. And what makes this believable is that Armstrongism is a cult of destruction. That has been documented. Still don't believe me? Ask a LCG member from Brookfield, Wisconsin.

old EXPCG hag said...

Blogger Black Ops Mikey said...

This conveniently ignores the blood on the hands of the leadership of the LCG.

Isn't that worse?

December 17, 2014 at 6:59 AM

hehehehehehe, isn't this the truth!

old EXPCG hag said...

Remember that Tina Turner song..."What's love got to do, got to do with it?"

I think this should be ALL the >splinter's< theme song.

Anonymous said...

In searching for the answers to these questions, why not defer to the source that Jesus trusts- Fox News?
According to Fox News, both Jesus and Santa are Caucasian.

The blondes at Fox News, along with Caucasian Jesus and Caucasian Santa, wish that all your Christmases be white!

So you see a little red on those white balls? No problem. That's just Megyn Kelly's lipstick.
(Sitting in the makeup chair before going 'on-air', Megyn was overheard saying, "No, that's Leviticus 16:15 goat blood red. Give me 'Creamy Lips L101'- that's the Matthew 26:28 Jesus blood color!")