Wednesday, April 5, 2023

The Word of God?

 



The Word of God?

The Word of God is synonymous with the Bible for most Christians today, but that isn’t how it began. As William Schniedewind demonstrates in How the Bible Became a Book, in the biblical literature prior to Chronicles “the word of Yahweh” has little or nothing to do with written documents. Neither is the expression “the word of the Lord” used to refer to the Ten Commandments or the Law of Moses. The term instead applies to the oral proclamation of the prophets.

An intriguing illustration of this can be found in Jeremiah 8:7-9. The text speaks of those who have rejected the word of the Lord (v.9) in the same breath as “the lying pen of the scribes” (v.8). Jeremiah was bemoaning the fruits of literacy: authority was shifting from oral tradition to the written word. Where should authority lie, with the text or teacher? Schniedewind observes: "Once authority resides in the text, the teacher can be dismissed..." It is only in the late book of Chronicles that torah is understood as the written word rather than the oral word spoken through the prophets.

Even the word “prophecy” (nevu’ah) is a late innovation. It hadn’t been needed until the textualization process was well advanced, but once the word of Yahweh was understood as corresponding to the Pentateuch, a new term was needed for the proclamation of the prophets.

The growing authority of the text, which advanced along with the growth of literacy, put paid to the ability of opinionated individuals to rise up and speak as God’s mouthpiece: the prophets disappear from Israel. Their niche is filled in part by apocalyptic speculation with a focus on the future rather than the needs of the moment. Amos’ cry for justice in the here-and-now is drowned out by Daniel’s lurid fantasies of the future.

The word of the Lord is still spoken by troublesome individuals who speak fearlessly, but rarely by religious professionals: priest and prophet rarely complement each other. Interestingly, Jesus was remembered “as one having authority”, not like the scribes of his day (Matthew 7:28). In fact, it’s remarkable how little exegesis Jesus seemed to bother with. Needless to say, he wasn’t popular with the clergy of his day either. In Matthew's "great commission" (28:18-20) Jesus passes his authority on to his disciples, he does not infuse it into a text. Even Paul, that prolific letter writer, stresses that he was called to preach: he makes no claims for his writings.

To tie oneself up in knots over the interpretation of obscure passages has nothing in common with the genius of Israel’s faith in its formative period, or of Jesus for that matter. That’s not to say that scholars shouldn’t dig deep to understand them, or that Christians shouldn’t respect them as markers on the road taken and a source for reflection and inspiration. But to regard them with idolatrous “bible-believing” superstition - in effect a paper pope - is likely to miss the whole point. If we’re busy attempting to distill precise doctrine from ancient text, chances are we’ll miss hearing the authentic word of the Lord that engages us in everyday life.


Gavin Rumney

When the clock runs out on COG false prophets


 

A memory from the past when Dennis posted this on Gavin Rumney's blog, Ambassador Watch


When the clock runs out…

1. I never said Jesus would return then. I said he “could” return.

2. God has given us more time to finish the Work.

3. Satan has blinded your mind. We never said that.

4. We said it, but we didn’t mean it the way you took it.

5. Satan confused your mind to make you think we said that, but we didn’t. We said something else and now I’m not going to tell you what I really said. You should have listened right the first time.

6. I only meant my books would go into a second printing and return to a bookstore near you.

7. I made a mistake, but so did Moses, David, the Disciples, and Paul, and they were all men after God’s own heart. So there.


Dave Pack: Our Passed Over

 



David Passed Over

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God blinked first during this week's prophetic staring contest. If anyone wondered if he would backpedal before his Night To Be Much Observed deadline, it was a no-brainer.

 

During the April Fool's edition of "The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 432)," Dave was adamant he knew the day and hour for the arrival of the Kingdom of Dave.

 

Part 432 – April 1, 2023

@ 29:39 What an amazing thing that all mankind will awaken into the Night To Be Much Observed [April 5].

 

@ 35:46 we expect Christ sometime before sundown Jerusalem time on Wednesday. Because He can’t come to us at the start of the Night To Be Much Observed, which is (literally) 12:01 our time here…Just think, right at noon is seven o’clock sundown in Jerusalem. Noon here. Just here…He has to come to us before that. He says He does. So, sometime before noon Wednesday…is the time this has to happen.

 

All that repetition sounds very specific and sure.

 

The Kingdom of Dave begins Wednesday, April 5, at 12:01 PM ET.

 

There appears to be some wiggle room with “has to happen.” Perhaps the author of this Pathetic Update in Member Services yesterday skipped Part 432 and refused to take notes since everything Dave says is only momentarily relevant.

 

 

Prophecy Update  

April 4, 2023

 

We still cannot discern the precise hour. Don’t be discouraged. Wait for it!

 

There is a near infinite array of when and how this one week exactly sits. It will not come and go as it does in the life of every Christian. So hold on to a few points:

 

• Many verses say the hour of the Day of the Lord is unknown. I know of at least 8. Mark 13:35 allows for a 12-hour range—maybe because sunup is when God intends people first hear the truth, having skipped the Night to be Much Observed.

 

• No wonder other verses say we can’t think or know the hour the week starts. One week cannot start on time and end late. Both must slide as a unit together to the unknown hour that Christ the thief comes.

 

The important thing is that we take the Passover symbols with the solemnity it commands, “showing the Lord’s death till He come” some time afterwards. Also, on a round earth, some of you will undoubtedly keep the Night to be Much Observed, and others will not get to it.

 

David C. Pack

 

 

Oh, wait. David C. Pack wrote that. This further proves that he disregards his own words and self-induces willful amnesia.

 

“There is a near infinite array of when and how…”

 

Doctrinal precision in The Restored Church of God went out the window years ago. Rightly dividing the word of truth is for suckers. Maybe ALL 800 hours of the Series were a waste after all.

 

Being exact and careful with the Scriptures is not a factor when Bible prophecy is handled by an amateur physicist pointing out the nearly infinite array of possibilities. Perhaps in an alternate Marvel universe, David C. Pack is correct. Even once. But that is not part of the infinite array we are stuck with here.

 

The one certainty in the cosmos is that whatever David C. Pack declares about the return of Jesus Christ or the coming Kingdom of God, it will NOT happen on those days. In a funny way, for those of us who want our Savior's return to be soon, we need Dave to keep his mouth shut so God has a few days left on the calendar to fulfill His will.

 

“…and others will not get to it.”

 

Everyone tonight in The Restored Church of God will paint on smiles and talk around the topic of the Kingdom of Dave. They will focus on the “good parts” if the Series even comes up. Dirty dishes will be filling the sinks of RCG members all over the world. If they have hope but not faith, they will clean them.

 

David C. Pack just spoiled another Holy Day season.

 

 

Dr. Herman L. Hoeh committed the most tremendous disservice in COG history by telling a budding narcissist at Ambassador Collage that his last name means Passover. The crowing about that has been echoing through 50 years of recent history.

 

First, David C. Pack’s parents teach him how special he is because he doodies in the toilet, not in his pants. Then, Dr. Hoeh inflates him further by reinforcing the notion that Dave is somehow more special than all the other ministerial wannabes in The Worldwide Church of God in Pasadena. After you got a few drinks in him, Dr. Hoeh must have chuckled at how amusing that idea actually was, and he "just wanted to give the young fella a boost."

 

It is too bad how seriously David C. Pack took that idea.

 

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God has taken the "David Passover" ball to run up and down the field doing victory dances while falling flat on his face. Not only was he "called into the ministry" and "worked closely with Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong," but he is also “David Passover.” Surely, that has to mean something.

 

In more recent years, the importance of his name has grown.

 

His first name is David, just like King David. But the Scriptures also use David in prophetic verses to mean David Pack, not the ancient David. Wow, that is pretty cool. He is also a Levite. And just like HWA, David C. Pack is a physical descendant of the ancient King David. So, he claims.

 

David and Solomon had so many offspring there could reasonably be tens of thousands of people alive today who share DNA with the ancient David.

 

But none of that matters when you are a false prophet claiming God’s authority.

 

Maybe Dr. Hoeh meant to say, “Your name means Passed Over.”

 

David C. Pack has been “passed over” as fulfilling prophecy.

David C. Pack has been “passed over” as an apostle.

David C. Pack has been “passed over” as Joshua the High Priest.

David C. Pack has been “passed over” as Elijah the Prophet.

David C. Pack has been “passed over” as That Prophet.

 

David C. Pack is forever disqualified. Every word out of his mouth is passed over.


Marc Cebrian

See: David Passed Over