Atmospheric Nonesense

"Wet weather and hurricanes are SOMETIMES used by God for judgment and correction. Hurricanes are consistent with prophecy"

"While many in the media believe that climate change is the cause, and to a degree it is, they fail to understand that behaviors that many in the West are promoting are factors.

God uses weather for various reasons, including to show people that this world will change.

Also to remind people that they need to change.

Hurricane Dorian is consistent with the following that Jesus foretold:

8 And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows. (Mark 13:8)

Major hurricanes are troubling. We are in the beginning of sorrows.

Weather events should serve as a wake-up call to all for repentance."

Wet weather?
  How Wet?
Sometimes? 

   Which times Bob?  

NO, a thousand times NO!  Bronze Age ignorance of weather and the gods behind them is not the explanation for weather, not then and certainly not today.  

No God uses seasonal weather to try to get our attention. Of if  it did or humans made up stories that suggested it did, , it never worked and is just more evidence that the gods are weak indeed and lousy communicators.

Of anything, hurricanes and deadly weather drives humans away from a God that would not hear their prayers for deliverance. Unanswered cries for help destroy faith, not build it. 

Gods were the ancient answer to the question "Wow..that was  a lot of wind and rain. ! What was that loud boom?  Did you see that flash?  Is that God?"  

"Why yes it is."

It was the same as when our parents told us thunder was God bowling....

An earthly story with a ridiculous heavenly meaning!

The people who wrote about the weather and the reasons for it in the Old Testament were concerned about Baal, the storm god of the day and Israel's tendency to want to go back and worship Baal.  YHVH was in fierce competition with Baal and eventually won over the hearts and minds of the Israelites through the various tales in Judges and Samuel, and took over the attributes of Baal.  However, neither 'god' is, in reality, the god over weather trying to convince humans to believe. 

" Baal was a western Semitic god of storms and the skies whose worship in Egypt was established by the 18th Dynasty. By 1400 B.C., he was an important god to the Canaanites and was mentioned in the Hebrew Bible as a competitor with God for the affections of the Israelites."

Bob, if you believe weather is a function of the gods, then you must admit you believe Baal has a part in it just as much as YHVH. While YHVH gets Baals attributes, the real Baal, who was just as real to Israel as YHVH nees to get some press too. 

However, both are ficticious with regard to weather. I know you can't admit that because it is such a part of your story and message to all humankind, but it is true nonetheless. 

You're a Bronze Age Weatherman.

Remember Bob the last time I told you that you were mistaken in your prophetic ramblings. You noted:

"Dennis Diehl, and many others, have ignored and/or despised the following instructions as to how to understand doctrine:

9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:9-10, KJV)"

And do you recall how I proved to you that Isaiah 28:9-10 is NOT a scripture on how to study the Bible with this commentary on the actual context and meaning?  Of course not!

 https://armstrongismlibrary.blogspot.com/search?q=diehl+isaiah+28+here+a+little

Do you remember your response?
Me either.

You, and every other Church of God minister are badly mistaken to quote Isaiah 28 as a way one is expected to study the Bible and find truth.  Herbert Armstrong never got it right either.

You, like all other COG ministers, self appointed or otherwise never admit to being mistaken, often as you are. 

And so it is with weather and prophecy.

I forced myself to watch your video on Hurricanes and Prophecy
It is simply ignorance on display.   Nature has not gone crazy. Nature is nature responding to the conditions that arise to  everything from human stupidity to climate change. Weather has taken out humans since humans evolved and have existed. We live on an active planet in a violent solar system as part of ever bubbling and broiling Universe.

And the "Prophet" Amos relating mold and mildew to God's judgment is simply the ignorance of Amos on display  as well and a reflection of too many lonely nights herding sheep

You are wrong. Totally and completely wrong in using Old Testament scriptures to explain, for your own outdated and ignorant religious motives what is the natural outcome of conditions in the atmosphere and seasons of the year on this planet. Weather may indeed get "worse" over time but the reasons are not because your god is angry at being ignored and is desperately "TRYING" to get human attention.  SHOW UP GOD! That will get their attention. But cut out all the Middlemen who are confused, self absorbed, mistaken, ignorant and misinformed.  

Bob, you truly are the classic definition of being piously convicted and yet marginally informed.

And in short, it does not matter what the Bible says about weather. The Bible itself and it's actual Priestly authors were wrong about the origins and meaning of weather. 

So keep your powder dry. It's a wet world of weather out there!

Warm Regards
"Apostate Former WCG Minister"
Dennis Diehl

PS  I tried not to take this personally while flying to South Carolina to see the kids.  I thought maybe it was not just a cloud and a stern and rude, yet effective,  rebuke from the Cloud God.  But in  a few minutes, it was just a cloud.  :)

Arroyo Grande Lights Up!

submitted by SHT

Arroyo Grande has been lighting up the world map the last couple days.  I wonder why?  

Is it anything we said?

Alas, this is what we will be accused of:

God's Chosen COG Prophet Get's Conned

How many years have we been saying here that many of the groups that latch themselves on to various COG's are professional church shoppers looking for easy handouts from the gullible white saviors in America?  They go from one Sabbatarian group to the next till they find some sucker willing to give the laptops, seeds, money, Bibles, and anything else they want.  The self-appointed COG leaders lap this up because they think their god has sent them these new converts.

Our great white savior, Bwana Elijah Bob Thiel, prophet and Chief Overseer of the improperly named "continuing" Church of god, has insisted regularly that he is able to discern the integrity of his church leaders in Africa.  Well, that has come crashing to an end when he had to admit recently that he had attracted men with no integrity and were using him.

Bwana Bob writes on August 29:

As most of you are aware, I left my last church because of repeated integrity issues with its leadership, as well as partially because of how it changed to define itself (for some details, see Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God).

It is amazing how Bwana Bob did not have the ability to discern that Rod Meredith had no integrity, to begin with.  Most who have been in the church and worked with Meredith understood this for decades!  Men of low integrity attract men of low integrity.

After comparing biblical teachings to their actions (and lack of keeping promises they repeatedly made), I concluded that the ‘Philadelphia mantle’ could not be with the top administrative leadership in that organization, and that the mantle had passed as one of its ministers had speculated to me it may have a couple of times.

In CCOG, we have since had to deal with other leaders with integrity issues of various types.

In 2013, we actually had two leaders in Kenya with the same first and last name (but from different towns). The first one turned out to be a complete fraud, while the other one was not. The first leader we started to work with in Malawi, while not a complete fraud, had severe integrity issues, so we stopped working with him. As it turned out, in time, we ended up with many more times the number of congregants in both Kenya and Malawi than those leaders with integrity problems claimed to have.

Recently, I am saddened to say, we became aware of an integrity problem with a leader in Mexico (Ismael Jimenez). So I investigated this by checking with multiple sources. Furthermore, I and a minister from another COG group gave him opportunities to repent and ‘come clean’ so to speak, but as of yet he has not truly done so. So, the CCOG has had to drop affiliation with him and we hope and pray that he repents. We also pray that those who had fellowship with him will one day see the truth about this and again wish to support the work of the Philadelphian remnant.

Working on this matter took up inordinate amounts of time, and more time looks to be required.

The Bible shows that dealing with people who have integrity issues is not new to the Church of God. Even Simon Magus believed and was baptized by the Apostle Philip (Acts 8:13). The Apostle Paul ended up having problems with many he worked with in Asia Minor (2 Timothy 1:15), as did the Apostle John (3 John 9-10).

This is a perfect description of Bwana Bob Thiel who is too blinded by his awesomeness to even understand what he wrote.

Jesus had to deal with the false as well (John 6:70). Furthermore, Jesus specifically predicted that Philadelphians would have to deal with false ones (Revelation 3:7-9) and we in CCOG have ended up doing so.

How can we fault Bwana Bob and the rest of the splinter group leaders as men of low integrity, considering their own original leader, Herbert W Armstrong, had low morals and integrity.  Every single one of the current top leadership of the COG splinter groups are men of low integrity. They all set off on their own in order to ensure a steady flow of income.  It had nothing to do with doctrinal purity.  They knew they were all getting fired or laid off and had no marketable skills. Stealing tithe money from duped members was more important than doctrinal purity or integrity.  All of these men cannot understand why the broad majority of the church never joined up with them.  Integrity is the one important quality none of them had and still do not have.