Saturday, May 18, 2019

Living Church of God: Are You Willing To Let Them Be Your Teacher?

Are you willing to let the Living Church of God leaders "teach" you? Better yet, are any of them qualified to teach you?  One thing for sure is that LCG makes great teachers of the law but not so much about Jesus or anything about the New Covenant.  For LCG it is all about falling in line and not questioning church leaders or certain pet teachings of the church.
Are You Teachable? The Scriptures reveal that one of the important qualities of character that God is looking for in future leaders in His Kingdom is teachability—the desire and willingness to listen and learn. Abraham was teachable and responsive to God’s instructions (Genesis 12:1–4). Moses was a very capable leader, yet he was also humble and teachable (Numbers 12:3). David’s attitude comes through in Psalm 119:33 when he writes, “Teach me, O LORD, the way of Your statutes.” Solomon recognized his human inadequacies when he asked God for wisdom and for an “understanding heart” so he could learn to rule God’s people wisely (1 Kings 3:9). When Jesus said the meek and the poor in spirit are blessed, He was emphasizing their teachability and their willingness to learn and grow (Matthew 5:3–5). The Scriptures also make it plain that if we harden our hearts to God’s instructions we will reap serious consequences (Proverbs 28:14). We have been called to reign with Jesus Christ in the Kingdom of God—and being teachable is one of the keys to attaining that reward. Let’s strive to develop that most important quality!
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail
One thing Jesus did when he walked this earth was sitting down with the marginalized and those weighted down with all the asinine versions of the law that the Pharisees had heaped upon the shoulders of the people. Living Church of God is just like the Pharisees, the more they can weight peoples lives down with rules and their own asinine versions of the law, the more righteous they feel, especially in the sight of their god.

Imagine what it is like sitting in church and having to listen to Rod or Jonathan McNair bloviate their nonsense from the pulpit. An LCG member sent to this blog the following comment in 2017  when Gerald Weston announced that he was bringing Jonathan McNcNair to Charlotte:

Anon 620 wrote:    "Did you notice that in Gerald Weston's December 7 update, he announces that Jonathan McNair will be moving to Charlotte to coordinate the new educational initiative?"

This made my jaw drop.

It is EXTREMELY telling of the direction in which Gerald Weston in going to take LCG. Jonathan McNair is as harsh, unloving, tyrannical, merciless, ego-centric and maniacal as his wicked little brother Rod.

Weston obviously prefers this brand of harshness to Doug Winnail's "softness". I've been waiting to see in which direction LCG would go after RCM's death.

I predict that this is the beginning of a further decline into the right ditch for LCG. I further predict that the Winnails (Doug Winnail - LCG Head of Church Admin and Scott Winnail - LU) will be "transferred" (aka demoted) from LCG headquarters.

When the Winnails fall from grace, it will be interesting to see if they wake up and make a move (likely to COGWA).

Doug and Scott are super indoctrinated but they are also intelligent (actually smart, not just in their own site like Wyatt Ceiseilka and Rod McNair who have a combined IQ of 150).

They have been making excuses to themselves for years to dismiss the wickedness they see at LCG headquarters. They tell themselves, "be patient, God will work it out in time".

When the machine turns against them, it will be interesting to see if Scott and Doug are able to maintain their cognitive dissonance!  Dec 11, 2017
And don't forget about Rod McNair when he declared that demons inhabit the elderly people in nursing homes!  An LCG member sent the following in 2015 to me:

Rod McNair recently ordered one of his members to quit their job at a nursing home where they worked helping sickly senior citizens. His reason? Demons. It is his belief that demons often inhabit the elderly. LCG recommends that its members stay away from people with mental illness and now they have added to that, the elderly. Ironic since the average age of an LCG member is about 75 and its leader, Rod Meredith, is 85.  According to sources, this member obediently quit their job immediately after being told to. Most professionals understand the importance of giving a notice of resignation out of respect for the employer and to maintain ones reputation in the industry. But not McNair. This member was subsequently accused of being disobedient to God's ministry by not quitting quickly enough once McNair learned that the member worked a two week notice to wrap up their obligations to the company. The member has now been disfellowshipped.

This raises several questions. What kind of church tells a member to quit a job that entails helping the needy on a daily basis? The elderly are often forgotten or neglected in our society. Is that what Jesus would do? What kind of member obeys this insane request, likely to their own financial detriment? Is it Christian to avoid the sick? The mentally ill? Is it fair to treat the mentally ill as demon possessed? Even if this person was told to quit and didn't, would that really be grounds for disfellowshipment? Are LCG members outraged by this or are they onboard with this type of behavior? 

Every time I hear another one of these stories coming out of Charlotte I am left wondering... what will it take to make people realize that this isn't what being led by Christ looks like. By their fruits they will be known... wake up sheeple. August 25, 2015
Can you imagine sitting in church and hearing a so-called minister say this kind of crap?  Would a REAL teacher ever say that?  Would a REAL teacher go up to a man and tell him to quit his job, a job he really liked, because he was supposedly surrounded by demon-possessed elderly?  The only thing a teacher like him deserves is a swift punch in the jaw to shut him up!  Now respectable Living Church of God should ever let some moron like this be their "teacher."

How can Living Church of God members forget when Rod Meredith launched a campaign to kick out church leaders and members who dared to think differently than him:

Rod Meredith has now appointed an inquisition to cleanse LCG of any who are not in full agreement with everything he says. “I’ve asked Mr McNair and Mr League – they’ve been working as a team to get all the information on many of these things – and I’m working with them and other leaders … 
We’re trying to keep God’s church clean.” That is, they are now purging LCG, due to the extensive divisions in that organization, which until now Meredith has lied about.Rod Meredith then lies in an effort to defame those who do not follow him as their idol. Roderick Meredith says, “We found that some of these people we’ve had to put out (of the church) … they often lie and lie, and they’ll twist and turn, and turn things around …” which is exactly what Rod does.
For some time there have been more than a dozen elders and a large number of brethren who have been very unhappy with changes in LCG teachings and with the heavy handed obey Rod or else, exalting Rod Meredith above the Word of God. It appears that Rod now knows who they are or he would not have announced the League/McNair team. It is easiest to gather such information in secret before announcing what is being done.  Nov 18, 2014

What gives the right to any minister in the Living Church of God to claim they are teachers and to demand respect?  Respect has to be earned and certainly, LCG is far down at the bottom of the well in regards to being teachers.

Any self-respecting Living Church of God member should start examining the lives of these sad men and turn and face the door of freedom.  Your very lives may depend upon it!


Anonymous said...

Apparently, LCG members are not very teachable, as Dr. Winnail's May 9 comments are almost identical (just a few small word changes that he probably thinks are defeating search engines) to comments he published on March 23, 2017, July 12, 2012, and January 24, 2008. Even new LCG members find within a couple of years that the sermons and other messages become repetitive, so you can imagine how dead your mind must have to be to put up with that for decades.

Anonymous said...

Is God inspiring Rod McNair? Read this article he wrote in 2000, warning of fraying U.S.-Philippines relations:

Why America Is Losing Valuable Friends and Allies

Flash forward to the present, and the Philippines is tied with Israel as the most pro-USA nation on the earth. How's that for Rod McNair's divine inspiration?

Anonymous said...

The answer to the question is NO! That is why we left LCG about 6 months ago. We got tired of being treated like uneducated imbeciles by so many of the ministry. We will never set foot in a church again!

Anonymous said...

I'd like to learn more about the LCG member who was disfellowshipped for not quitting his job at the nursing home quickly enough. Can anyone provide more information about this?

Anonymous said...

don't forget about how LCG treated the Scarboroughs...who did a tremendous amount of voluntary acts for the members in Charlotte.

Byker Bob said...

How do you define “teach”? As the leaders define it, are you expected to check your mind at the door? Does learning entail automatic invitation of the ministry into your life as police, judge and jury? Are dissent, and negotiation possible? Second opinions?

I seriously doubt it. Therefore it is not education at all. It is the force-feeding of someone’s dogma.


Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

The answer to the question is NO! That is why we left LCG about 6 months ago. We got tired of being treated like uneducated imbeciles by so many of the ministry. We will never set foot in a church again!
May 18, 2019 at 1:57 PM

any chance you could provide your contact info...??? I have family in the LCG in Charlotte that I am concerned about.


Ronco said...

All the folks at LCG should just punch out and go home, because it's just not the same without good ol' Spanky!!!

Anonymous said...

These ACOGs want a certain percentage of their members disfellowshipped. This intimidates the remaining members into blindly obeying their ministers. Church leaders prefer "quality over quantity," For the same reason, they hide that the veil in the temple splitting in two on Christ's death, means direct contact with God. These churches instead stick with the Roman Catholic tradition of middlemen ministers between God and man.
Which is why their church fasts are a waste of time and effort. God will not listen.

TLA said...

They seemed to me last year to have lost it and I could not stomach going to any of the others. I started thinking more about what the scriptures really say and saw how wrong the COGs are and the areas in the Bible that don’t make sense.
I am thankful the quality got so much worse, otherwise I would still be there - it is comforting to know everything - ignorance is truly bliss.

Anonymous said...

I was just reading John 9:20-23 where the parents of the blind man who was healed feared their own religious leaders. What a shame, to have sheep afraid of their very own shepherd. Yet, many WCG did fear their leaders. The questions should not be, "Are you willing to let them be your teacher" but, "Are you afraid of your teachers"? If so, what does that tell us about the teachers themselves?
Imagine if you are at AC in Pasadena. To whose office would you feel comfortable being asked to go to? Let's see, RCM? NO! HWA? NO! GTA? No, especially is you are a woman! Hoeh? No, because you wouldn't understand what he is saying and would be bored to tears! If you saw any of these men coming towards you on campus, how many of us would walk in another direction to avoid them?

Anonymous said...


the corruption runs deep and goes back years. Before the "falling out", Charles Bryce was one of Rod's "Boys". We knew him as "pastor" of a congregation before he came to HQ. A dishonest man who neglected sheep, sucked up to HQ, promoted the Papal Teaching "you have to have a man between you and God", and stole as well....

THAT kind of example was why we ran from LCG.

You Real Christians out there. Please re-read I Sam 2 and 3, and see what God thinks about corrupt people who think they are above the Law.

Rod, Gerald, ,,,?

Don't you REALLY want to focus what God thinks???

He is out there, and so are His People.

Anonymous said...

Too many LCG members are blind and dumb. Recently, at a HQ bible study, one of their top men told a story about how he would capture raccoons on his Florida property and then relocate them elsewhere. Apparently, no one bothered to do the research to find out that Florida has strict laws about relocating nuisance wildlife if you choose not to kill them after capture. This top minister had some kind sentiment that he didn't want to kill the raccoons that he caught on his property, but the way he chose to exercise his "kindness" actually violated Florida laws in several ways, costing taxpayers money and putting Floridians at increased health risk. That's how many top ACOG ministers operate. They do what is right in their own eyes, without regard to what the law requires.

Lisa w said...

Did rod really say that old people are demon possessed? Can't imagine any minister actually believes that, well he will be old one day,hope he knows a good exocist....

nck said...



How unbiblical of that minister.

Doesn't the bible state that man has dominion over the earth and therefore is entitled to go forth and multiply and trample anything under his foot. Moreover it is required of some peoples do dominate the fats of the earth, eat meat by the biblical requirement of barbeque and if one cannot grow meat on your own land burn down the guatamalan rainforest have the cia depose of unfriendly government there and have your cows from there.

Yeah do right by what the law requires of you.