It was reported a while back here and in various Australian news services that Grace Communion was actively promoting gay conversion therapy in its chaplaincy program. Apparently a member of the Greens party in Australia did not get her facts straight and falsely accused the GCI.
This is sure to set off our delicate and very bitter persecuted prophet of Arroyo Grande. This is a claim that Bob Thiel has been vomiting out for many years now that he will be persecuted for promoting anti-gay stances. This will be a bitter disappointment to delicate Bob. It will add more fuel to his fire of hate filled grievances with GCI, LCG and other COG's.
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Greens condemned on gay conversion claims
The Greens have been criticised for linking school chaplains with the widely condemned practice of gay conversion, after Victorian education officials dismissed suggestions that one of the state’s providers had been the subject of complaints.
The Victorian Department of Education has confirmed that it has received no complaints about Christian ministry Grace Communion International, which is a National School Chaplaincy Program provider, since the scheme began in 2015.
In its response to questions from Greens education spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young during a Senate estimates hearing in May, the department stressed there were stringent guidelines governing chaplains in Victorian schools, including adherence with anti-discrimination and human rights legislation.
Senator Hanson-Young had singled out Grace Communion during the hearing, saying it was an “organisation that believes in gay conversion therapy”. “I’m quite concerned that some of the organisations providing these chaplain services are a dangerous risk to our kids,” she said.
Ms Hanson-Young later issued a press release saying “questionable religious organisations using their fringe ideals to … push gay conversion therapy methods are being invited into schools under the government’s $247 million school chaplaincy program”.
Federal Education Minster Dan Tehan, whose government recently extended the program to include an anti-bullying focus, said the senator “should get her facts right before she makes unsubstantiated allegations”.
Grace Communion national co-ordinator John McLean said he was relieved he record had been set straight.
“The reality is that we have one chaplain operating in Australia, in Victoria, and that actually grew organically out of an existing relationship between that individual’s congregation and the local school,” he said.
“Certainly no one in our Australian organisation supports any attempts to convert LGBTI people.
“And nothing like that has ever come up in our chaplaincy.”
See story here.
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“Certainly no one in our Australian organisation supports any attempts to convert LGBTI people.”--GCI
Of course not!
GCI is no good for anything.
Good for GCI for not falling for the conversion therapy lie. There is a COG exmember on several facebook pages that tells his story about being sent to one of these abusive concentration camps that deranged Bob Thiel advocates for.
The "gay conversion therapy" is a lie and anybody who falls for it is a very shallow person. Just sayin'.
"Grace Communion national co-ordinator John McLean said he was relieved the record had been set straight."
Before the record underwent gay conversion therapy, the record was set "gay", but to everyone's relief, the record was set "straight"!
I Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you WERE. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
The operative word is WERE. According to Paul, people , through Jesus Christ and the spirit of God , had moved beyond all of these practices.
There is still so much about human sexuality that is not completely understood. The one compelling aspect to sex is the source of the sexual excitement. What causes the attraction, and what stimulates the desire for the activity? And, is it something that provides a basis for relationship or life partnership?
People like to categorize and to put things into nice neat little boxes which serve in their understanding. Often, it is a stretch to get these things to fit. In the case of sex, words such as orientation and fetish are used to describe or explain non-typical or nontraditional patterns. Fetishes are sometimes permanent and a constant in the lives of individuals, but in other cases, they wear out and are replaced by newly discovered fetishes. Therefore, it would not surprise me to learn that a man with a penis fetish, or a woman with a vagina fetish, had become overwhelmed with a totally new and different stimulant, and began acting upon that. If a fetish is a life constant, the term orientation is normally used.
It is morally wrong for another person or people to be so presumptuous as to reprogram another, or to force them to change. And I’m talking about an inflicted process here that goes way beyond normal teaching. Most fetishes are accidentally encountered. Someone sees something previously unknown to them, is overwhelmed in excitement by it, and it becomes an involuntary driver in their lives. In some cases, the person with the fetish is even repulsed by it, and would prefer that it was out of their life. It’s another area of life in which humans have very little control.
8:54 I agree that "There is still so much about human sexuality that is not completely understood." And, if you want a scripture to back it up, which some who read this blog do, there is Proverbs 30:18-19, "There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not: ... and the way of a man with a maid."
The larger question, of course, is whether GCI is converting anyone to Jesus Christ and a right relationship with God.
Considering the presence of so many "relaunch" pages on the GCI website these days, it's a question the leadership should be taking very seriously.
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