The David C. Pack Tapes
#28 “Common”
When it rains, it pours.
In an interesting turn of events for the Restored Church of God Whistleblowing industry, recordings of meetings with David C. Pack have reached my inbox.
Since my time at Headquarters, I had forgotten that it was common practice among particular ministers to have voice recorders rolling while in meetings with David C. Pack. This included, but was not limited to, ministerial Bible studies and one-on-one conversations. The purpose of these recordings was to accurately document what was said by the Apostle so that his will could be adequately implemented by the men under his command.
The wisdom of Pastor General David C. Pack is like gold falling from heaven and was meant to be preserved. And preserved on this website, they shall be.
William H. Behrer, III, was already a Headquarters Director when I came to Wadsworth, Ohio, in late 2012. The generosity of him and his wife, Jackie, was legendary among the brethren. They helped provide for my financially-struggling coworker by bringing him lunches from time to time. His hardship was not known even though he sat six feet from me. But the Behrers knew, and they cared with action.
They also had a good reputation in The United Church of God, where they attended before The Restored Church of God. Mr. Behrer and I knew people in common inside UCG. He was cordial, patient, and polite. Everyone knew Bill Behrer was a well-liked and gentle man.
That was a stark contrast from the “hatchet man” reputation he had at Headquarters. The staff knew that if Mr. Behrer came to your workspace and wanted to go for a walk, it was bad news. That is how people were fired for a few years in RCG: Mr. Behrer comes by your desk, and you walk out. You do not come back. I accepted this because he was in the corporate structure of RCG, and somebody had to do the firings. I did not know at the time how much he hated doing it.
Mr. Behrer was a man under authority and a team player. Nobody could fire you in a more comforting way.
David C. Pack made William H. Behrer, III, the RCG Hatchet Man. He was the enforcer who did Dave’s dirty work. That dynamic was lost on me since I was a new lay member at Headquarters who did not question how “God’s Government on Earth” functioned.
Mr. Behrer left RCG Headquarters in July 2014. Later, he was reinstated into the ministry and pastored the Albany, New York congregation.
The Behrers eventually left RCG in the fall of 2016 without looking back.
Mr. Behrer worked for years as the Executive Director of the America-Israel Friendship League. According to his wife, he worked until six days before he died. The man was found so doing.
William H. Behrer, III, died of pancreatic cancer on the afternoon of September 14, 2018.
Kevin Denee wrote a touching article on LinkedIn to honor his dear friend.
“As I wrestle with the hole in my heart, I also reflect on what made Bill so special to me and to so many others. He was one of the most genuine people in this world. Anyone who knew him would say the same.”
Now that you are up to speed, here is the kicker:
Before Mr. Behrer died, he entrusted a few people with audio recordings of meetings with David C. Pack.
I find it fascinating that a man dying of cancer felt strongly enough about recorded conversations with David C. Pack that he did not want them to fade out of existence. When you listen to the content, you will understand why.
To honor the intent of Mr. Behrer and with the blessing of Mrs. Behrer, this first six-minute clip is a Common strategy discussion that was knowingly recorded in April of 2012.
The audio has been edited to remove identifying elements that would disclose who Bill and Dave are talking about. The man who is the subject of this conversation did not know it existed. His side of the story will be addressed after the transcript.
For context, the Headquarters of The Restored Church of God moved from One Park Center to 1000 Ambassador Drive in May 2013. The Hall of Administration was the first building constructed, but there were already plans for a Mail Building and a Media Center. Tithes and offerings would not provide enough funds to make the RCG Campus possible.
Enter the doctrine known as "Common." This is what still drives the RCG financial ship today. The perverted “sell all” teaching is a David C. Pack distortion of Acts 2:44. Tying this “commanded” doctrine to salvation has helped pressure brethren to give generously throughout the years.
Common is what built the RCG Campus, and Common keeps the RCG Campus afloat today.
In this clip, David C. Pack is advising Mr. Behrer on how to get promised Common funds from “Jim,” who was selling property. When the name “Fenske” is mentioned, that references Jim Fenske of Knoch Corporation, the construction company that built all the buildings on the RCG Campus.
There are no Netflix bombshells, corporate secrets, or “this is illegal” gotcha moments. However, it is a deep dive into the mind of David C. Pack, where his guard is down. He is far less concerned about teaching blatant manipulation or coaxing others to lie for the benefit of The Restored Church of God.
Yes, David C. Pack instructs William H. Behrer, III, to lie.
[Start]
DCP:…If ever there was a doubt, Fenske's numbers removed 'em. Yeah, I know we're gonna get his number down, but we're not gonna get down to where we were. We're gonna get down to where we can make the payment, and bye-bye Friedly.
WHB: Yes.
DCP: And it gets a little better if if Jim puts a hundred and a quarter in. But here's where you are with Jim. And I wanted just to kind of revisit things. There's some other perspectives spiritually, Bill. You have to speak both as a pragmatist and a shepherd. As a spiritual mentor to a young man who, like you said, "This is why I know God brought me into the Work 'cause it's corrupt out there."
WHB: ‘Cause that was part of my comments as well. You know, Jim, let's think about this now.
DCP: Yeah. Yeah. God brought you, but you know, you have to be careful. You said you were gonna give it. You have the liquidity. Now let's go back to something. If you want to show faith, you don't withhold the money you promised to give. And that we for eight months expected, and now more than ever, you're seeing evidence we need it. You wait for one of your properties to sell.
If your thing is, you're not willing to believe that God's gonna take care of you on that land, you're you're not willing to believe, you're not willing to live without a house if He didn't. ‘Cause, that's two options. Live in a condo or believe that God's gonna put you in the house. You're not willing to believe either. Either to do one or believe the other. You wait for some money outta [redacted] to build your house, and you convert that.
WHB: Yes.
DCP: You don't take that liquidity we desperately need. It's blowing up our ability to compute in decisions. So, and here's the other thing. Bill, boy, these are subtle things. Just go slow till you hit all of them 'cause I know you. You're a master at this. And I've learned more about you, Bill. That's why I tell you I don't wanna change you. I don't care what your weaknesses are. I have weaknesses. I try to hide my weaknesses, alright? And you, you're getting better anyway.
But, I will not reduce you or me or Kevin or anybody to going hat-in-hand when we need it. You said you were gonna to give it and it; You're not giving it, you're paying it. It's a command. There's so many things wrong with this, and this is why you have to show him, "Jim, on what basis could Mr. Pack believe if you do not give this, that you're going to give the the condo for the house in [redacted]? Why?” “Well, because we'd have enough for our house.” “But he's even told you that you're gonna [phone buzz]. He even said we'd put you in Rayburn's house. But you turned away. You'd be the you and Scott would be the first two over there. Surely you believe Rayburn's house with that view's better than a condo.” If and both were conceived as temporary.
But if one was, but it was not gonna be temporary, surely you would want the contiguous home against that backdrop versus a condo. If you're gonna have to continue to stay, and you didn't say anything.
WHB: Yes, Sir.
DCP: And you're ready to hold that. You see my point?
WHB: I Do. I do
DCP: There's no there's there's not one or three or five or seven comments that have to be brought up. This is layered.And and okay, let's even say you're gonna keep the money. Some of the money. You kept it all. You can't keep any of it.Yet you you can keep enough that you meet expenses that eight months ago you didn't think you'd have to meet.
WHB: Right.
DCP: That's reasonable and natural.
WHB: Yes.
DCP: But now he's still going to if he if he. Here's the way here's the way you put it. This gives him no place to feel discouraged. He will be discouraged, and at part of it, he should be. But he's gotta know he is not in my doghouse. And the only way to do that, I stress this, Bill, the only way to do that is, "This is me talking to you, Jim. I know I'm a minister, and I'm your boss, but I'm a friend, too. I'm just telling you, don't go away thinking Mr. Pack doubts you. He has no doubt. He's absolutely adamant you're gonna come to see this. That there's no way you'd make that promise in Israel and eight months later not keep it. That you're gonna hear all these meetings. You're gonna see the Fenske numbers. This is Mr. Pack saying. In just telling us, ‘Don't worry, Jim.’ Jim and [redacted] will come to realize they reneged. “So he believes you're gonna give it." So, because he's gonna somebody's gonna say, "You doubt me, and you know." You'll spin it.
WHB: My my purpose in my direction.
DCP: And you say, "No, no, no. That's the whole point. We don't. Mr. Pack doesn't doubt you. But I have concern 'cause I know in April in May, it's all coming out of the sheet, everything." Because he now will believe, "Wait a minute, they really aren't going to give this, and there's no way we can count on it, and it now has to drive financial decisions. It's gonna become an embarrassment in there. And Mr. Pack didn't pull it out now 'cause he's so adamant you're gonna give it." I mean, it's just strategy, Bill. We'll catch him with guile.
WHB: Sure.
DCP: I don't know if he would've given it in April, but I'm trying to give him a way to feel good in my presence.
WHB: That's that's my my my whole purpose is at the end of the conversation, he's gonna say, "Okay, should I just write a check or should I get a cashier's check?" And that it's gonna be all his, he's gonna feel that he's put all the pieces together, understands it, and it's come out and said, "Yes. I, I really," that's what I want to do.
DCP: And let…Boy, oh boy, do I hope so because these numbers from Fenske.
WHB: Oh, it’s just ridiculous.
DCP: And and when they're front-loaded. [whistles] It gets tight.
WHB: Absolutely.
DCP: And Bill, we're not having a good April.
WHB: We're not?
DCP: It is not. No, we're not.
WHB: Let me turn this off here.
[End]
Before offering an analysis of Dave’s words, it is fitting to understand that “Jim” thought the entire conversation was pointless. He was never going to “renege," and the money promised to RCG was contingent upon the sale of their property. That property did eventually sell, and Jim gave RCG what was promised.
He is not bitter today, even after leaving RCG, because he gave the money to God, not David C. Pack. I also gave my Common to God and not David C. Pack. The peace that comes with that viewpoint cannot be explained.
To Mr. Behrer's credit, he never followed through with Dave’s instructions. The conversation with Jim never happened because Mr. Behrer knew it was unnecessary. He was letting Dave vent and then opted to take a more patient approach, knowing “the young man” was a man of his word and would follow through without prodding.
Only Mr. Behrer knows how many times he endured Dave’s pontification to just let the hot air dissipate. I know other ministers who adopted this same method. Dave will give detailed, micro-managing instructions, and the men will ignore him or significantly alter their course of action. They recognize wisdom when they hear it. They recognize foolishness when they hear it, too.
Bradford G. Schleifer takes the same approach today. I have witnessed him using “the Dave filter” to smooth over the sharp edges of information. He does not lie but paints with a broad, glossy brush. Ed, Ryan, and Dr. Ranney have also benefited by following suit.
CYA is the RCG way at the HOA.
The enablers on the Executive Team operate with this understanding. Give Dave "just enough" to "feel aware," but not too much that he would want to meddle. Say something the wrong way, and you could fall into a snare bumming out everyone involved.
Brad is the one who really runs the day-to-day show over there. The RCG machine runs smoother without Dave, and everyone on the third floor knows it.
Brad oils the gears. Dave sprinkles sand on them.
These conversation comments give a glimpse into the thinking of David C. Pack, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God.
“I have weaknesses. I try to hide my weaknesses, alright?”
I was taught we were to overcome our weaknesses. Hiding a weakness does not address the problem but only masks it from others. Weaknesses should be conquered so we can be better, stronger, and more effective as we develop in life.
Even though this was ten years ago, he carries the same philosophy today and, in many ways, has gotten far worse. Dave does not need to improve because that is for the little people. He can easily sit you down for 90 minutes and explain how you can overcome your weaknesses but then get up and walk out, hiding his own.
Dave is not as good at "hiding his weaknesses" in his old age as he used to be. Now, he has no problem exposing them to everyone in the church. Watching his deterioration over the past several months is a testament to that. What he freely admits in a sermon today would have been cut out two years ago.
What a great example of “Follow me as I follow Christ.” God’s Apostle hides his weaknesses. Maybe that should be another pillar on the RCG logo.
“But, I will not reduce you or me or Kevin or
anybody to going hat-in-hand when we need it.”
So much for a humble attitude. He sees it as a reduction to ask someone for money because they need it. He wants the money and strategizes for the money, but he wants to save face while doing it.
His conversation with Mr. Behrer is entirely about using manipulation to guilt someone into giving Common, so they do not have to "ask" for it. Again, the whole conversation was moot because the giving was a foregone conclusion to the man they were discussing.
"…stress this, Bill, the only way to do that is, 'This is me talking to you, Jim.
I know I'm a minister, and I'm your boss, but I'm a friend, too.'"
Talk about manipulation. RCG ministers are “not allowed to be friends” with lay members. Unless they are a big fish with money to be gotten. Then, the minister is your friend who will speak softly and hold your hand. But once you lay the money on the bedside table, they'll be out the door while you are in the shower.
This example, and deeper into the conversation, shows how Dave uses the men under him as meat puppets. Their mouths open, but Dave’s fingers are moving them. Well, that is what he wanted of them.
Dave loves to dictate precisely what men are supposed to write and what they are supposed to say. Do not think this is a unique case. I have more of this kind of stuff.
Dave touches their lips so his words come out of their mouth.
That is why these meetings are recorded. The men need "precision" when handling situations, per Dave.
Notice how he crawled inside Jim’s head and understood in advance what he would think and what he would say. Oh, the talent! He has quite the knack for this because he also does that a lot.
It is a shame that the grown men under his control cannot think for themselves.
“… don't go away thinking Mr. Pack doubts you. He has no doubt.
He's absolutely adamant you're gonna come to see this…”
I did not graduate from college, but that sounds like a lie. The entire point of the whole conversation was because David C. Pack was worried Jim was not going to give the $125,000 he “desperately needed.” He had nothing BUT doubt. Otherwise, they would not be talking.
Just ask: Why would an “apostle” of Jesus Christ instruct another minister of Jesus Christ to lie to a member to get money out of them? Wow. And this was before he realized he was Elijah.
“Mr. Pack doesn't doubt you. But I have concern 'cause I know…”
I see why Mr. Behrer refused to follow through with this. Any man of conscience would do the same. Not only does Dave want him to lie to Jim, but then take the heat for the purpose of the discussion in the first place. He is asking Mr. Behrer to fall on his sword and be the bad guy in the discussion about Common.
Godly servant leadership, indeed.
If it were appropriate to extend the middle finger during this discussion, it would be right here. In a way, Mr. Behrer got the last word in this conversation even though he died first.
“And Bill, we're not having a good April.”
And there it is. The source of Dave’s concern. The motivator for teaching Mr. Behrer people skills.
But, the Hall of Administration was built, then occupied in May 2013. Followed by the Mail Building, the Media Center, and the Pole Barn. All the while, houses along Akron Road and Hartman Road were being bought and renovated. The good ole days for RCG.
Surely, Dave uttered these words again privately back in June and July of this year when he was forced to sell the house on Hartman Road so he could improve the $500,000 lawn of the 786 Akron Road fixer-upper.
Based on the content summaries that came with over 16 hours of audio files, this seemed like the best introduction to what has now come to light.
I can visualize Mr. Behrer in his casket, giggling up a storm. That is not my theology, just a funny image I cannot shake.
I am referred to as “that devil Marc Cebrian” by David C. Pack because I publish information. Not misleading information. Not wrong information. Not lies. Not libel. Ponder how accurate information condemns David C. Pack. He certainly is.
The sharpest daggers to cut David C. Pack are the words of David C. Pack. His sermons. His literature. His meetings. His conversations. The man shoots fiery darts at himself. I am just a scribe.
If anyone else has audio in their archives that they feel would be befitting of a modern-day examination, please get in touch with me at exrcgwebsite@gmail.com.
I recognize I am poking the bear using a Behrer. Let the truth prevail.
Marc Cebrian
22 comments:
Reading the transcript makes me sick. I remember the voice, the controlling, twisted, deceiving yet cunning logic. Disgusting.
The most disgusting thing about this article is that Pack told a minister to lie. Sadly, this is something not new to the church. Justified lying has been used in the church for decades.
New to commenting but know Dave (and his sons) well. If Dave thinks Christ is perpetually coming, he’s financing his entire property’s on short term ARM’s. The US 10 yr yield has gone from 1.5% in January to 4.2% on Friday. Which means his cost to finance things he doesn’t own is going thru the roof. Which means he needs fresh donors (which isn’t gonna happen). Financially, this should end within two years…
Bill was a good man. Knew him well in UCG, when he left Worcester, MA congregation I think Dave forced him to try and “pick off” the high earners…
Supposedly, Herbert W. Armstrong once quipped that he would lie, cheat, steal, or beg, do anything to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ, and apparently, he said this in front of some sort of ministerial meeting.
I have spent a lifetime hating the manipulation of my fellow humans, by authority figures, or sales people, crafted in such a way as to cause them to modify their behavior. I actively avoid people who are known to do this. It means that I could never, even if I believed the theology were correct, be a member of any church rooted in Armstrongism. The doctrines they teach cause these ministers to be as they are. They have polluted even the half a gospel that they actually do teach, the essence of which is that Jesus Christ will soon return, basically to establish Armstrongism as the government of God for all eternity.
If I were a member of the RCG, every time Dave Pack forecast that Jesus just had to return tomorrow, I would be one of those who deeply longed for exactly that, simply because it would mean the end of David C. Pack's reign of terror!
"He will be discouraged, and at part of it, he should be. But he's gotta know he is not in my doghouse. And the only way to do that, I stress this, Bill, the only way to do that is, "This is me talking to you, Jim. I know I'm a minister, and I'm your boss, but I'm a friend, too. I'm just telling you, don't go away thinking Mr. Pack doubts you. He has no doubt. He's absolutely adamant you're gonna come to see this."
I wonder how many men of the "organization" who were targeted for a hit, heard something very similar to this before a bullet was discharged into their head by the designated hit man.
I am lost as to where and what the "spiritual" component of this conversation is and to what "spirituality" there is concerning the method of creating the desired action.
Dave Pack was worried about the bad numbers($) for April. He himself doesn't exhibit any faith in this conversation, but tries to corner Jim into acting in faith ..... PATHETIC, absolutely pathetic! Dave Pack is a faithless conniving coward. No wonder he lives behind a gate with security and a hotline to the Wadsworth Police Department.
My wife listened to this 5 minutes of Dave Pack and plainly said, "I don't care to hear anything from that man again". Evil men wax worse and worse, is a scripture that Dave Pack has made "come alive". Unfortunately, after Dave got his "buck and a quarter" from Jim, he moved on to others with the same "guile" - many of whom were my friends and some of which became truly homeless.
This 5 minutes is representative of the last 10 years of Dave Pack. He gets so much wrong, he truly is the apostle of wrong.
That was one of the most vile things I have ever heard. His son has said a few times here that his Dad is the least materialistic man out there. Really? Try telling us that again and expect anyone to believe it after hearing that little nugget of filthy greed.
What a disgusting man. "We can get him with guile". Well, clearly, the father of lies beguiled Dave first. I hope he rots in jail before he rots in hell.
Thank you for sharing this, Marc. What the heart wants, the mouth eventually speaks and it explains some of his behavior a bit better. I'm sorry for the loss of this decent, honest man and my prayers are with his wife.
Dave Pack is no mystery to psychologists and psychiatrists.
I can understand people joining Dave's church in its infancy. Outwardly it appeared righteous. But when its true nature became apparent, especially with the common doctrine, any minister who stayed with Dave was complicit of all its evils. Those ministers turned their backs on Christ, and chose to defacto worship Satan.
Christ said no to Satan's temptation to worship him, these ministers by contrast said yes.
Common Thief Dave Pack said, "But he's gotta know he is not in my doghouse...Mr. Pack doesn't doubt you". Later, the Common Thief Pack said, "We'll catch him with guile".
MY COMMENT - Pack is a manipulative liar! Here is the Plain Truth :) - the whole conversation between Pack and Beher occurred because Jim IS, IN FACT, IN Pack's doghouse because he hasn't forked over the $125K! Mr. Pack DOES doubt you, Jim! Why else would this Common thief be having this conversation with Beher in the first place?
BTW, until the money actually changes hands, a donor has a right to change his/her mind. Maybe in the subsequent 8 months he started having doubts - not in God, but in the Common Thief Dave Pack. Why does Jim have to show anyone including Pack his faith? Why didn't the Holy Spirit move Jim to fork over the $125K without the use of guile? Maybe the Holy Spirit was moving Jim in the opposite direction?
There are many synonyms for the word "guile" which Common Thief Pack uses. They include these words: deviousness, schemes, craftiness, tricks, ruses, deception, deceit. Do these words sound like words that could describe the character of Jesus OR like words that could describe the character of our adversary Satan the devil? Who is the great deceiver?
2 Corinthians 4:1-2 states, 1."Therefore, seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not, 2. But have renounced the hidden things of DISHONESTY, NOR WALKING IN CRAFTINESS, nor handling the word of God DECEITFULLY, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to everyman's conscience in the sight of God".
Dave Pack says we will catch him with guile. Sometimes people are named for what they really are. Wild animals like Wolves group themselves in packs. Dave Pack is a wolf seeking whom he may devour among God's deceived sheep. This clip which Marc Cebrain has obtained condemns the Common thief Dave Pack for what he truly is. Wake up deceived sheep! By their fruits you shall know them.
Richard
Sharing everything you personally have while demanding others do the same... then taking every last cent in order to build a statue unto yourself is about ego.
It is my personal opinion that all these guys are not motivated by a traditional monetary greed. Its ego. Its control. Its perhaps just sheer power. A need to feel more special and righteous and rewarded than everybody else in the room at all times. A need to be respected and for that it may even have to do with intense insecurity personally rooted in how the old organization in the WWCG was towards many of these men? Its probably even motivated politically among peers within the splinters. Whoever has the biggest statue and wields the most power is obviously gods first choice. I think alot of this was trained literally from when they were teenagers at Ambassador.
But to me petty greed is far to simple. I even wish thats what it was honestly. I see preachers everywhere on TV and locally that are motivated by the money and you can see it in what they drive, and wear, the houses they personally live in, the travel, the jewelry, the glamour..... just how they present themselves and thats just not DCP or even the COG crowd in general is where Im coming from on this.
Hopefully you wont retaliate against me again for weighing in if you disagree with my simple take here. Just trying to share my thoughts not start some rock fight.
Personally I think announcing that people should "give all" from the pulpit is more earth shattering than a private conversation about it. I think what bugs people here is just hearing somebody they despise so fiercely discuss the matter in more personal terms. That conversation brought back memories in a bad way but honestly before I hit play I was expecting worse. His thought process is not a normal one and if tapes keep getting released it will continue to expose that.
Wadsworth Gate, The Pack Tapes ... will they bring him down?
"I mean, it's just strategy, Bill. We'll catch him with guile." David Pack
22 years after I resigned from his employment, he is still practicing his guile. He has caught a lot of victims with his guile over the decades.
Thomas Munson
The Sundown Kid said: "these guys are not motivated by a traditional monetary greed. Its ego. Its control. Its perhaps just sheer power. A need to feel more special and righteous and rewarded than everybody else in the room".
I think this explains the prophecy obsession too. After all, the little flock will be running the entire world right? As the inevitable end draws nearer Pack sees the power slipping from his grasp, thus the 7 years of desperation in the 400 part series.
What really blows me away is that these are the guys (Pack and his lackeys) who would laugh a guy to scorn for quoting someone who made much greater sense than themselves, such as, I don't know, maybe Mick Jagger?
This tape shows that David Pack has earned a curse on his ministry by his sheer duplicity. Prophecy failure is inevitable! God's not going to honor or validate that kind of behavior!
I knew Bill Behrer very well when he was a local elder in the Nassau NY Church. I even stayed with Bill for a while when I was between moving from one apartment to another. Bill was the most generous man I ever met. He gave financially to many people, myself included, when I was in need. He gave of his time to anyone who requested it. He was a humble and patient man when I knew him. When I disagreed with things the church taught he never threatened or tried to bully me into believing the church's position. He also knew I wouldn't be discussing my disagreements with other church members and that the conversation was just between two men. I don't have anything to add about his time in RCG. I just wanted to share my eye witness account of his kindness and generosity to so many people.
"Dave Pack is no mystery to psychologists and psychiatrists."
LOL.
It has been my lifelong observation that sincere people who want to serve God are often the most easily manipulated people on the face of the earth.
Dave may have once been such a person himself as a young WCG minister. During the time when he was being manipulated, it would have been accurate to classify him as a victim. One of the counterintuitive aspects of victimology is that a certain percentage of victims actually end up turning, and becoming predators themselves, even though they had initially had moral compunctions against the way in which they had been victimized. Dave empowered himself when he took the assets from his parents' business and started up his own franchise of Armstrongism. At that point, no more overseers, hence free reign. As I've stated many times, the people who were trained by HWA and his organization never do repent of their Apostle's sins. They consider HWA's example to be license, and blindly or possibly even knowingly imitate these sins over and over and over.
I think the HWA teaching that members of the Church are qualifying to be rulers over nations for eternity really appeals to Dave. He may view himself as #3 ruler over the entire universe.
David never wrote much of those booklets when he was starting up. He made his first wife work on them day and night as she rewrote old COG literature to make it look like Dave did not plagiarize WCG's booklets. He made her do this while she was sick. Disgusting man.
I knew and worked with him in RCG and concur 100%
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