Friday, July 5, 2013

Dave Pack: He's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack! Installment 21



We are in for another weekly treat from Davey Pack, the worlds most important man to ever have walked the earth since Jesus Christ was here, who runs the worlds most superfantabulous church, and who has taken on the mantle of apostle, Elijah, Joshua, Jesus, and Aunt Jemimah.  The world is in such a better place since Davey was conceived by immaculate conception decades ago.  No man more perfect has ever walked the earth since sinless Jesus Christ.  Sinless and without guile, not a filthy rag anywhere on the dude.

Dave writes about the miraculous event to happen this August when his puny, impotent, pissy god kills off three Church of God leaders so that all of their members will join Davey's cult.

He writes:

"...all brethren will be reunited this summer, in time to attend the Feast of Tabernacles together in 2013."
Of course for this to happen any worthwhile COG leader must have countless bullet points on why it is to happen or things members need to believe.  Weinerdude Weinland has 57 points necessary for salvation.  Davey has 24 points necessary to understand his asinine reasoning.

This announcement presents 24 reasons for this timing. There is much proof

Any truly educated and well trained speaker knows that for an effective speech to have meaning for the audience it should have no more than 5 points.

  • Limit number to two or three for short speech, not more than five for long speech.  Organizing Your Speech 

Does any COG leader ever follow that standard?  Not on your life!  All of us have heard COG sermons with the minister giving countless points to get a message across in an hour to hour and half sermon?  An effective speaker can get their point across in 20-30 minutes instead of the mind numbingly boring drivel they dish out over the next 90 minutes.  

Who wants to sit there through 24 - 57 f-ing points?

Oh, and you can't even understand the points till you understand the hidden code which only the fearless leader has knowledge of.

Preparation for understanding them begins with understanding of the day and the month of the prophecy’s fulfillment. Grasping how these dates appear in code paves the way to seeing how God has hidden the year until the time of fulfillment, when He would have to reveal it in advance. And He must do this in a way that is clear and certain to His people who are preparing for it.

The only code Jesus ever came with is,  love your God and love your neighbor.  2 small itty-bitty points that carry far more weight that some jackass in Wadsworth bellowing out 24 points that can only be understood once you understand the code first.

Dave Pack Is Still Pissed That COG Members Give Their Tithe Money To Everyone But Him



Dave Pack has a long reputation of being focused upon Money.  Money makes his world go around.  God and Jesus, do not figure into the picture.  Sure he pay slip service to his god and even mentions Jesus Christ - occasionally, but MONEY occupies his mind and almost all articles, booklets and web postings.


Having absorbed dozens of false doctrines and ideas to which they had grown accustomed, these ministers left at the last possible moment, when they saw the sheep leaving without them. They saw themselves about to permanently lose their paychecks if they did not immediately follow thousands of tithepayers out of the WCG. But, not wanting to appear to be followers—and horrified that many who were leaving were either joining or contemplating joining one of the two large, established, slightly more doctrinally conservative splinters of the time—they quickly jumped in front of the departing flock, claiming to be their leaders.

However sincere these men may be—then or now—recognize that they have a long history of PROFOUND BLINDNESS—and WEAKNESS! They have proven that they will not give up their power, authority and influence. They will not stand firm and teach strongly against the pulls of the world. And of course they spin stories about me to frighten as many brethren as possible into remaining frozen where they sit—because this keeps the tithes rolling in. It keeps what could be called a deception for the ages continuing—the receipt of hundreds of millions of dollars (perhaps about $1.25 billion) that belong to God and not these terribly COMPROMISED MEN.


Dave is not concerned about the money he collects goes to his god, instead, Dave uses it for his own purposes.

Ron Weinland: You Members Are Too Stupid To Prove Anything Or Discover Truth On Your Own




Last week Weinerdude admits that his god did not inspire him to write anything to the members of his cult.  Today he is back with a letter to the sheeple that believe they need to follow Weinerdude's 57 "truths" in order to gain salvation.  In order to do that though, they are not to "prove" the 57 truths are correct but are to accept them as fact and to put them into practices as if they already are.  The membership are not to waste their time studying, proving, examining, or questioning the "truths."  Since Weinerdude's god reveled these "truths" they are deemed "true" already.  Because government is from the top down, "knowledge" comes from the top and you are not to question it.


Within the Body of Christ, truth is not revealed to individual members through personal study, insight, and/or intellect, no matter how much one might try to prove something true or false through their own ability. Such an idea, concept, or teaching is totally contrary to the truth of God, the working of His ministry, and the structure God has created within His Church – government.

What Paul was saying was that people are to prove – to establish the validity of God’s truths and ways – by putting them to work through living and exercising them in their life and thereby approving them as the only true way of life to live. When he says to “prove all things,” he is only speaking of “all” things that are given from God and not of living and trying all things that are possible in human life.

When a person seeks to "prove" something is true or false they become agents of Satan:

The twist that some have placed on the word “prove” is indeed sly, deceptive, insidious, and totally false. It is highly dangerous spiritually because of what such a concept actually teaches. It teaches that individuals have the ability within them to discern, judge, examine, and decide for themselves what is true and what is false. If that were true, we would not need God’s spirit to lead us into all truth. No one has such ability apart from God to discern or know such things. Such must be revealed spiritually to us by God. That is how God works in us to give us His truths. The idea that individuals have the ability within themselves to discern or learn what is true, apart from God revealing it, is the same lie Satan foisted upon the first two human beings. Satan seeks to sneak that false concept into the lives of all with whom God calls and works with. That is how he led a third of the angelic realm to follow him.
It is simply a lie to believe that anyone can come to the knowledge of the truth – of what is right or wrong – by human reasoning, intellect, study, or by any other human means. Nor can one “go back” and re-prove truth through their own intellect, reasoning, or study. They cannot re-prove what they never proved as true anyway. It was given directly from God and only received as a matter of faith.
All truth comes through Weinerdude or maybe Mrs. Weinerdude, on a good day.

That is the way God reveals all truth to us. It begins to be revealed to us from the beginning of our calling, and then God’s spirit continues to reveal more and more to us in order for us to continue building on what has been given before. So how does God reveal His truth and true ways of life to people? Is it done by personal revelation that is “directly” from God and straight to an individual? No, not unless one is a prophet or apostle. That is simply how God has structured His Church and how it is to function. It is how God works.
When a person starts to study, do research, or examine Weinerdude's utterances, they are essentially turning themselves over to Satan.  Once hey are in Satan's grasp their lives become more comfortable and peaceful.  Only the true believers live lives of turmoil and upheaval. Those that have left Weinerdude's cult are not living lives of comfort now that they have repudiated Weinerdude.


When someone begins to believe the lie that they can reason and study to know God’s truth then they quickly begin to lose what God freely gave them, since it is God who not only gives His truth to us, but it is God who sustains it in us through His spirit dwelling in us. Truly, the bottom line is a matter of knowing where God’s true Church is, and only God can reveal that single spiritual body to someone. That Church is the only means that God has given that enables spiritual growth through sermons, other recorded truth, and written material God and Christ inspire to be given to His people through His ministry. Without that direct source that God works through His Church and His ministry, one will begin to starve spiritually from lack of food that comes only in this manner.

Indeed, how quickly individuals can lose what God freely gave them once they choose to believe any lie and separate themselves from God’s Church. Individuals can and have gone quickly back to believing that the rock (Petra, Selah) is about a physical place of safety (protection) in Jordan, instead of God being our Rock of safety. Individuals have returned to believing that there are two eternally existing Gods, as they actually return to embrace a strong portion of the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity. And on and on it goes. Such is Satan’s pleasure. He and the demonic world cease to attack them, but instead make their life more comfortable in this physical world to which they have returned. Such individuals are no longer engaged in a spiritual battle to hold fast to what God had given them.

It is for such reasons that we should study the truths God has given us so that we can remain sharpened and strong in God’s word. This is simply a part of holding fast to what God has given already and not letting it slip away, but remembering it and thereby being more readily able to build upon it as God continues to freely give us more. We should seek to remember and hold fast to what we are given. That does indeed mean we are to “go back” and be reminded and strengthened in what God has given us. That is the correct context we should use if ever speaking of “going back,” but never in the context of proving things to ourselves apart from what God has given – 57 Truths!