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COGSR is the "last instrumentality" of the Worldwide Church of God.
The Church of God
There is only one true Church. The Church that Jesus Christ built. The Worldwide Church of God is that one true church. It came forth like a “correcting rod” through the Latter-day Apostle, Mr. Hebert W. Armstrong. It manifested at the end of the Sardis period and grew in strength to become the Philadelphia Church.There is only one true Philadelphia Church; it was given the name Worldwide Church of God. This cannot be changed. If it could how many Philadelphia Churches are there? There is only one! After the death of the Later-day Apostle many offshoot and splinter groups began under a new name.
The only ministry of the original WCG using the original name is COGSR. We, the Church of God ~ Speaking to the Remnant [COGSR] are simply a ministry of the true Church. “Ministry” simply implies that COGSR is the true remaining instrumentality of the original Worldwide Church of God. It is the remaining body of the WCG. It teaches the original teachings. We understand what church era we are living in since the death of Mr. Herbert Armstrong. The Church has since moved into the Laodicean era. The Laodiceans are Christians who have fallen away, they are spiritually asleep. The Philadelphia Church stays true to the counsel it has been given. It is the Philadelphia Church which is to call those fallen Christians out of Laodicea and back into the Worldwide Church of God. Because we are the true remnant of the Worldwide Church of God we are also the only true body of original believers that comprise the original Philadelphia Church.
There you have it folks! Dave Pack is a fraud. Gerald Flurry is a fraud. Rod Meredith's a fraud! Only EW is the rightful heir preaching the good news of God's one coming kingdom where we all be made into god's to rule over our own universe. Don't you just miss hearing that phrase! Move into EW's group and you can hear it all the time!
EW goes on to ask:
Each church era had a faithful angel [messenger] which helped it cross into the next phase. Herbert W. Armstrong was the sixth messenger in the sixth church age. Who is the Seventh Messenger? It is this Seventh Messenger who is to give the Church “meat in due season”. [Matthew 24:45-47]
One guess as to who that 7th messenger is. EW himself. No shocker there though. EW is bringing meat in due season to the restored church as it awaits it's new name.
Please understand, after Mr. Armstrong died the Seventh Messenger to help usher in the Seventh Church Age did not appear right away. It has always been this way. There has always been a testing time of faith in between each church era.
After Mr. Armstrong's death in 1986 many were left not knowing where to go. Those who left during this time were confused. Many joined false offshoot groups in haste. Those who waited patiently truly understood that nobody could destroy God's true Church! They stuck with the title: “The Worldwide Church of God”! Today God is calling those who left back into His one Philadelphian era church that was guided by the ONE AND ONLY, MR. HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG! He fulfilled the Zerubbabel mission and “his hands shall finish it!” [Zechariah 4:9]We now must understand that there is a last messenger, the Seventh. The Seventh Messenger appeared with the remnant of the true Church on October 7th, 2011. Now the Church has manifested in the seventh era. It still maintains the true name of the Philadelphia Church, The Worldwide Church of God.
How much more proof does one need! The Worldwide Church of God is God's only true Last Day church! Notice Mr. Armstrong states that "this church" IS "the Church of God". COGSR is the only true remnant that understands this fact. All offshoots are mislead and following ‘leaders’ under a different name. The Seventh Messenger speaks with authority, the authority of God’s word! COGSR has since been attacked by other groups because of our message.
During this Philadelphian era God's true church was given the name, “The Worldwide Church of God”. Any other church coming up after this with a “new name” is Laodicean or 'cult'. The name that Jesus says that the Philadelphian church has "not denied" is the name He gave us, The Worldwide Church of God! The Greek word “name” used here in Revelation 3:8 is onoma and can mean “character trait”. Because the Church of God had gone worldwide through the message of the latter day apostle, the church took on the name “Worldwide Church of God”.Then EW wants to know that he has just taught you something so mind boggling that NONE of the splinter groups dare teach it.
So the title "Worldwide Church of God" we should never deny!
Given the abysmal track record of the Worldwide Church of God with its hundreds of failed prophecies, theft of tithes by the leadership, murders, suicides, rapes and child molestations, why on earth would anyone want to return back to it?“And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all the kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God. Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.” [Isaiah 62:2-4] The Hebrew word here, Hephzibah means “my delight”. Why does the true “Worldwide Church of God” take on the character of “God's Delight”? Because they stuck with the TRUTH! This chapter in Isaiah is talking about the time when Jesus restores His government on Earth.The Worldwide Church of God will get this New Name at the Second Coming!Did you just read Isaiah 62:2-4? Did you understand that GOD WILL GIVE THE NEW NAME! No offshoot group can understand this. They have become blind and full of pride thinking that their made up names and splinter groups can somehow save them..... they turn away from letting God give us His “new name”.Where ever the true Church dwells shall be “Beulah”, which means “the husband [God]” is with them! The true “Worldwide Church of God” will be Hephzibah, “God's delight”! Now what you have just been taught is something that all the offshoot groups and splinter groups do not want you to know! Why? Because the offshoot groups seek glory for themselves and not God! They “know not the Scriptures”. Look at all the false names that they have given unto themselves.
Dennis On: "Oh Paul, You Nut"
"Oh Paul, You Nut"
I believe most readers understand that I
personally have come to the "low view" of the Apostle Paul. This Saul now
Paul came out of nowhere to tell everyone the true meaning of his hallucinatory
Christ. Remember, Paul NEVER met any real Jesus of the Gospels , never
quotes him and the Gospels never heard of him either. You'd think the
"Pharisee of the Pharisees" and the one "above my fellows" would have
shown up in the Gospel group of Pharisees tormenting Jesus. Even though
the Gospels were written well after Paul had lived, preached and died, he was
not put into the stories about Jesus and his confrontations with the Jerusalem
Pharisees. It is simply because they never heard of him or , at best,
hated him and didn't agree that he even was an Apostle.
Personally, I feel Paul was the false
apostle that the Jesus of Revelation (not Gospel Jesus) praised the Ephesian
Christians for getting rid of. Paul even bitched that all in Asia, where
the church of Ephesus was located, had forsaken him but he prayed God
would not hold it against him. He seems never to have asked why they
forsook him and won't share that with us in his writings.
He withstood that scoundrel Peter "to his
face," but again, really fails to tell us why. I wonder what Peter would
have said about this event?
"I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them to be false." Revelation 2:2 (NIV)
At best, Paul was and is a controversial figure in the NT. It is Paul, not any Jesus, that is the author of modern day Christianity. Paul the Pharisee's Gentile Christianity won out over the Jewish version.
Paul cursed those that did not preach the Gospel that
he came up with. Paul hated Peter, James and John of the Jerusalem Church,
and they weren't all that crazy about him.
Let's notice how Paul views himself and ask if this is
a man that may have actually been outside the intent of Jesus teachings but who,
nonetheless, won out and with whom we are stuck
today.
Paul took a salary from others for those of us who
think ministers should not be paid. However, he admits to stealing
it.
"I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service." II Cor 11:8
Paul was given to boasting to keep up with the
boasting of others. What this really means is that since others are
presenting their actual credentials, he better think of something to present his
own or lose out. You'd think that he'd not do this to show he was not like
them, but alas, he can't resist.
"Since many are boasting in the way the world does, I too will boast." II Cor 11:18
Evidently, one only comes out of the world when that's
all there is left to do. Otherwise, use it to your advantage.
Paul had no problem making stuff up that he
knew any Jesus on earth did not say. His opinion was just as good as
everyone elses. Usually when one says they aren't boasting or lying, they
know they are so may as well try to say they aren't really.
"That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting" II Cor 11:17
Paul was not against trickery to get his points.
After all, this is a man who can be all things to all men (duplistic) to save
some. Just what exactly does this kind of "all things to all men," really
believe?
"Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery!" II Cor 12:16 Nice! You tricked me into the truth.
"Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery!" II Cor 12:16 Nice! You tricked me into the truth.
Paul points to his own example and not that of
Jesus. He says he is everyone's father in the faith. I remember HWA
saying that too. Paul was not only a guardian of their faith, (do I need
one?) but he is the father of it.
"Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus, I became your father through the gospel. Therefore I urge you to imitate me." I Cor 4:15/16
"Judge not that you be not judged," seems to have
escaped Paul. Of course, he never heard of Gospel Jesus and those stories had
not been written yet. It's the reason when some asked him how to pray he
said "don't worry about it. The Holy Spirit would moan and groan, utter and peep
for us" and never heard of Gospel Jesus saying, "When you pray say, 'Our
Father who art in heaven....""
"And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just if I were present." I Cor 5:3
Paul had no problem handing someone over to his
concept of Satan for destruction for the greater good. It never seemed to
occur to Paul to encourage, love and help the one who had slipped.
"hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord." I Cor 5:5
Paul was as falsely humble as they come. He felt
he was the ultimate way for others to be and his way of being was THE way of
being.
"I wish that all men were as I am." I Cor 7:7
Paul felt his views were just as valid as those of his
Cosmic Christ. Even though Jesus didn't teach something, he did and he had
the spirit of God. This is a rather dangerous view and leaves him open to
saying and demanding anything he wants thinking he and Christ are one and the
same.
"To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord):" I Cor 7:12
The single, unmarriageable and probably troll like
Paul tells everyone that his being single is the best way to be. He never
heard any Gospel Jesus say, "A man should leave his father and mother...."
Of course, this "stay unmarried as I am" which was a function of his view that
"time is short," was bullshit in reality.
"Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am" I Cor 7:8
"Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife." I Cor 7:27
"What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none;" I Cor 7:29
Paul rethinks the above and tells everyone to stay
stuck in the situations they are in.
"Each one should remain in the situation he was in when God called him." I Cor 7:20
Paul's view of marriage is unreal and childish.
The unmarried or virgins are NOT all that concerned about the things of the
Lord, as far I could ever tell. The married woman was NOT always just
concerned about the affairs of the world and I thought pleasing a husband was
part of being in a relationship. Paul knows nothing of love and
marriage. He was only fit to bring a watermelon to the church picnic as
that is what the single men were good for.
"An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs:" I Cor 7:34
"But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world - how she can please her husband." I Cor 7:34
"In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is - and I think that I too have the spirit of God." I Cor 7:40
Paul totally expects to make a living off the
preaching of the Gospel. (This for those who think it is not
Biblical) Paul likes his stuff, just as everyone else does.
"In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." I Cor 9:14
"If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?" I Cor 9:11
Paul likes his boasting. It is part and parcel
of what he needs to feel good.
Paul curses those that don't love the Lord. Nice touch! In one place Paul says, "when cursed we bless," however, he had his moments.
"I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of this boast." I Cor 9:15
Paul curses those that don't love the Lord. Nice touch! In one place Paul says, "when cursed we bless," however, he had his moments.
"If anyone does not love the lord - a curse be on him.
This reminds me of a sign on a barn south of
Greenville, SC here. "Love Jesus or burn forever in hell."
Nice!
Paul blames others for his having to make a fool of
himself and feels they should have appreciated him more. He says he is nothing
but thinks he really is something great. He can't call Peter, James and
John "fellow laborers chosing rather to be sarcastic and call them "super
apostles." This shows his immaturity and need to also be "super."
"I have made a fool of myself, but you drove me to it. I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the 'super-apostles', even though I am nothing." II Cor 12:11\
Paul admits that Satan got the best of him and blames
some physical problem on Satan. In other words, he sees Satan behind
everything that thwarts him even though it probably is not so and he is just not
getting what he wants.
"To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surprisingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me." II Cor 12:7
Paul was competitive and could not abide anyone being
as smart or equal to himself. He thinks everyone who disagrees with him is
boasting and enjoys cutting them off at the knees.
"And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about." II Cor 11:12
Paul was the kind of personality that would say he was
not lying, when he knew he was. Was not boasting when he knew he
was. And had to keep on boasting to keep up with what he thought others,
who simply may have been speaking more truth than himself were doing.
"I must go on boasting." II Cor 12:1
Paul was prone to believing that his having the final
say was his right in the lives of others.
"On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others," II Cor 13:2 B
Paul, in his twisted view, knew he was conceited and a
boaster.
"To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surprisingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me." II Cor 12:7
Paul tells us the alone went to the Third Heaven , saw
and heard things that no man can utter. This sheer invention to make
himself more special. At best it is manipulation much like a Dave Pack who
tells his congregants, "Great things are happening, but I can't share them with
you at this time," and at worst, it is mental illness. I dare any COG
pastor to stand up this next week and tell the church that they were taken to
the third heaven but can't report on what was seen or heard.
When it comes down to it, it is Paul and not any Gospel Jesus that is the founder and author of Christianity. This is a man who was not chosen as one of the 12 by Gospel Jesus. This is man who brags in Galatians 1-2 that Peter, James and John were "so called pillars" and that who they are made no difference to him. He says that they "added NOTHING to his Gospel." He curses those that don't abide by his "Gospel" and that , contrary to the story in Acts, was called from the womb and NEVER had to bother conferring with the Jerusalem leadership. This is probably true because the Gospel of the Jewish Christians was vastly different from the view of Paul the Pretender.
When it comes down to it, it is Paul and not any Gospel Jesus that is the founder and author of Christianity. This is a man who was not chosen as one of the 12 by Gospel Jesus. This is man who brags in Galatians 1-2 that Peter, James and John were "so called pillars" and that who they are made no difference to him. He says that they "added NOTHING to his Gospel." He curses those that don't abide by his "Gospel" and that , contrary to the story in Acts, was called from the womb and NEVER had to bother conferring with the Jerusalem leadership. This is probably true because the Gospel of the Jewish Christians was vastly different from the view of Paul the Pretender.
Paul was no team player. He was a lone wolf and
could not stand not to be in charge of it all. He, like so many COG gurus
simply will not and cannot work in cooperation with others in a common
view. His views were THE views and his Gospel was THE Gospel.
Paul always played the martyr role. He was the
both the worst and the best. The least and the most. The liar who
told the truth. The weakest yet the strongest. The Pharisee of
Pharisees and the Apostle. The smartest pencil in the box, above his
fellows and a fool. He was a man given to exaggeration and self promotion.
He admitted to being big of mouth and small in actual presence.
In short, he was the perfect prototype of a COG
Apostle.....so called.
Dennis C. Diehl
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