Narcissists Ruin Everything: Part 2

Narcissists Ruin Everything: Part 2

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come; for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, curse their parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power."  -II Timothy 3:1-5

The following quotes are from Sam Vaknin's book, "Malignant Self Love". All of them come from pages 388-399 where he talks about narcissists in positions of power, and particularly, as religious leaders. As you will see, it reads like a biography on Herbert W. Armstrong and many others of his underling creations over the years. It is interesting to note that the context above in II Timothy is religious leaders.  I believe this describes the inevitable fruits of hierarchically structured religions.

I sprinkled in some commentary along the way. There are so many good quotes here that I'm sure they will trigger many thoughts, memories, examples, and experiences of your own. Please share them in the comments. [Narcissists need not apply!]


"Narcissists in Positions of Authority"

"Being in a position of authority secures the uninterrupted flow of Narcissistic Supply. Fed by the awe, fear, subordination, admiration, adoration, and obedience of his underlings, parish, students, or patients, the narcissist thrives in such circumstances. The narcissist aspires to acquire authority by any means available to him."

"As far as the narcissist is concerned, there is no moral dimension to abusing others-only a pragmatic one: will he be punished for doing so? The narcissist is atavistically  responsive to fear and lacks any in-depth understanding of what it is to be a human being."


"Narcissistic Leaders"

"The narcissistic leader fosters and encourages a personality cult with all the hallmarks of an institutional religion: priesthood, rites, rituals, temples, worship, catechism, mythology. The leader is this religion's ascetic saint. He monastically denies himself earthly pleasures (or so he claims) in order to be able to dedicate himself fully to his calling. The narcissistic leader is a monstrously inverted Jesus, sacrificing his life and denying himself so that his people-or humanity at large-should benefit. By surpassing and suppressing his humanity, the narcissistic leader becomes a distorted version of Nietzsche's 'Superman'."

Herb's autobiography is crafted with fabled years on end of suffering (not of his doing, of course) and supposed sacrifice for the "work" Jesus Christ supposedly 'cursed' him with. I'm sure he hoped it would satisfy people's concerns about his glamorous lifestyle; stealing from the poor, fearful and ignorant.

"In short: narcissistic leadership is about theatre, not about life. To enjoy the spectacle (and be subsumed by it) the leader demands the suspension of judgment, depersonalization, and de-realization."

Actors and performers in ancient times were the priests. The religious guru and propagandist was also the entertainer and bedazzler; the hypnotizer.

This resonates well with Wes White's post, "Kayfabe Gospel Preaching".

"Narcissistic leadership often poses as a rebellion against the 'old ways': against the hegemonic culture, the upper classes, the established religions, the superpowers, the corrupt order."

"The narcissistic leader prefers the sparkle and glamour of well-orchestrated illusions to the tedium and method of real accomplishments. His reign is all smoke and mirrors, devoid of substances, consisting of mere appearances and mass delusions. In the aftermath of his regime-the narcissistic leader having died, been deposed, or voted out of office-it all unravels. The tireless and constant prestidigitation ceases and the entire edifice crumbles. What looked like an economic miracles turns out to have been a fraud-laced bubble."

Robert Coulter points out as much in his history of COG7D, "The Journey". For all of HWA's slander of the church he stole many of his ideas from, that church remains with close to half a million members and absent of websites, established by ex-members, devoted to exposing the abusive nature of cult life. The money train sure chugged along for a season but just as Vaknin said, once the narcissist was dead, it all came crumbling down into a pile of ineffective nothing and left behind, a trail of wasted and broken lives.

"To the narcissist, things and people are either entirely bad (evil) or entirely good. 'You are either with me or against me' is a common refrain."

This mentality is still embedded in the splinter culture.

"The 'small people', the 'rank and file', the 'loyal soldiers' of the narcissist-his flock, his nation, his employees-they pay the price. The disillusionment and disenchantment are agonizing. The process of reconstruction, of rising from the ashes, of overcoming the trauma of having been deceived, exploited and manipulated-is drawn out. It is difficult to trust again, to have faith, to love, to be led, to collaborate. Feelings of shame and guilt engulf the erstwhile followers of the narcissist. This is his sole legacy: a massive Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder."

The internet is a blessing to humanity. It exposes evil and shows how it's not normal to have a ton of negative things about you in the public domain.

But I also find it repugnant how often people will come to blogs where people share their trauma in hopes of dealing with it better and find healing, only to be castigated by the kool-aid drinking sycophants still denying their own mental illness. Many of themselves, narcissists, as is evident by their cruel comments, superior attitude and tiring argumentative spirit.

The ultimate legacy of a religious narcissist like Herb and Dave are conversions to atheism by acts of cruelty and abuse. These conversions give the narcissist messiah his ultimate victory; vanquishing God and taking His place upon the throne of the universe. This isn't a knock on atheism, only an observance of what narcissists do to people of faith. It is one thing for an atheist to influence someone away from their faith by reason. I have no problem with that. Narcissists go as far as to use some tactics none short of Satanic ritual abuse.

"The Cult of the Narcissist"

"The narcissist is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands complete obedience from his flock. He feels entitled to adulation and special treatment by his followers. He punishes the wayward and the straying lambs."

"The-often involuntary-members of the narcissist's mini-cult inhabit a twilight zone of his own construction. He imposes on them a shared psychosis, replete with persecutory delusions, 'enemies', mythical narratives, and apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted."

This 'twilight zone' HWA masterfully concocted on radio and television was his main hook, rooted simply in fear and nothing else. It truly amazes me that after all these decades, there are still people arguing prophecy with any kind of Herbesque dire consequence. Give it a rest. Just the fact that prophecy is a religious narcissists' favorite tool in his box of tricks should be enough for anyone to steer clear of anyone coming at you dogmatically about future events and dates. Fixations on the future is what enables the narcissist to engulf others in his own twisted reality of urgency existing paradoxically in a cocoon of suspended animation.

"The narcissist is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest details and behaviours. He punishes severely and abuses withholders of information and those who fail to conform to his wishes and goals."

"The narcissist does not respect the boundaries and privacy of his reluctant adherents. He ignores their wishes and treats them as objects or instruments of gratification." 

"He strongly disapproves of others' personal autonomy and independence. Even innocuous activities, such as meeting a friend or visiting one's family require his permission."

The last few descriptions are strongly evident in PCG and RCG. I know personally, the demand Dave Pack puts on his slaves and the toll it takes. He is the vilest narcissist I have ever known in my life.

"His thinking is dogmatic, rigid and doctrinaire. He does not countenance free thought, pluralism, or free speech and doesn't brook criticism and disagreement."

Unfortunately, the sycophant managers left holding the bag after Herb didn't take everyone to Petra, still uphold the same dogmatic, rigid, free-thought crushing system. And, of course, they have to...their employment and retirement is at stake.

"He forces the participants in his cult to be hostile to critics, the authorities, institutions, his personal enemies, or the media-if they try to uncover his actions and reveal the truth. He closely monitors and censors information from the outside, exposing his captive audience only to selective data and analyses."

This is another policy that has carried over in the splinters. I have heard several sermons at feasts where ministers got up and brazenly told brethren to stay off the internet. They attempt to ridicule and bully the listeners with threats that they will become flat-earthers and moon-landing deniers if they don't obey. (Some of them do...but so what?) These portfolio managers don't care about brethren getting sucked into dumb ideas. Their only concern is that people start finding out the truth about their 'twilight zone'.

"The narcissist's cult is 'missionary' and 'imperialistic'. He is always on the lookout for new recruits."

"As the leader of his congregation, the narcissist feels entitled to special amenities and benefits not accorded the 'rank and file'. He expects to be waited on hand and foot, to make free use of everyone's money and dispose of their assets liberally, and to be cynically exempt from the rules that he himself established (if such violation is pleasurable or gainful)."

"In extreme cases, the narcissist feels above the law-any kind of law. This grandiose and haughty conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous relationships, and recurrent friction with the authorities. Hence the narcissist's panicky and sometimes violent reaction to 'dropouts' from his cult. There's a lot going on that the narcissist wants kept under wraps."

This explains why out of the hundreds of people that came and went in RCG, hardly a peep from any of them. You can be sure Pack is 'lawyered' up with signatures on the dotted line from every one of them. They don't dare speak out unless they want to end up like Don Tiger.

"The narcissist sees enemies and conspiracies everywhere. He often casts himself as the heroic victim (martyr) of dark and stupendous forces. In every deviation from his tenets, he espies malevolent and ominous subversion. He, therefore, is bent on disempowering his devotees. By any and all means."

The easiest way for a narcissist to keep his devotees disempowered is to lock them into the prison of hierarchy, tithing laws and prophecy obsession.


"The Professions of a Narcissist"

"The narcissist naturally gravitates towards those professions which guarantee the abundant and uninterrupted provision of Narcissistic Supply. He seeks to interact with people from a position of authority, advantage, or superiority. He thus elicits their automatic admiration, adulation, and affirmation-or, failing that, their fear and obedience. Several vocations meet these requirements: teaching, the priesthood, show business, corporate management, the medical professions, politics, and sports. It is safe to predict that narcissists would be over-represented in these occupations. This is a worrisome state of affairs. Narcissists are liars. They misrepresent their credentials, knowledge, talents, skills, and achievements."

Notice the very similar relationship between teacher, priest, actor, sports icon and politician. Narcissists will do whatever it takes to climb the corporate, educational, political or ecclesiastical ladder. Fortunately, some of them aren't very good at masking their narcissism and those around them impede them from reaching positions of power and control. This is what happened to Herb in COG7D. But Herb did do what many other narcissists have done when they fail to scale existing hierarchies...they create their own. Already in his 50's, he started a school for 18-year-olds to build his fiefdom. The perfect toadies. He already commanded respect with over 30 years their senior. He was their teacher, rabbi, and spiritual papa. The man was an idol unto himself who hand-picked his loyal underling priests that would do whatever he said. Period.


"Can Men of God Be Narcissists?"

"God is everything the narcissist ever wants to be: omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, admired, much discussed, and awe-inspiring. God is the narcissist's wet dream, his ultimate grandiose fantasy. But God comes handy in other ways as well."

I wonder if the 'wet dream' and 'handy' was intentional. Maybe this is what Herb's 'flog log' was really about.

"The narcissist alternately idealizes and devalues figures of authority. In the idealization phase, he strives to emulate them, he admires them (often ludicrously) and defends them. They cannot go wrong, or be wrong. The narcissist regards them as bigger than life, infallible, perfect, whole, and brilliant. But as the narcissist's unrealistic and inflated expectations are inevitably frustrated, he begins to devalue his former idols."

This is an apt description of Dave Pack and Bob Thiel.

"Now they are 'human' (to the narcissist, a derogatory term). They are small, fragile, error-prone, pusillanimous, mean, dumb, and mediocre. The narcissist goes through the same cycle in his relationship with God., the quintessential authority figure."

"But often, even when disillusionment and iconoclastic despair set in, the narcissist continues to pretend to love God and follow Him. The narcissist maintains this deception because of his continued proximity to God confers on him authority. Priests, leaders of the congregation, preachers, evangelists, cultists, politicians, intellectuals-all derive authority from their allegedly privileged relationship with God."

This reminds me of Simon Magus. Many claim to be following in the footsteps of Peter when their idol is Simon. This is largely why I am confident HWA was never converted in any way whatsoever at any time in his life. I think it is important to frame his 10 years of incest with what else was going on in his life. The first 5-7 years of incest were also his ordination years in COG7D. What kind of human being neglects his family, studying religion for a few years, only to conclude that God was calling him for a special purpose, forces ordination among peers who didn't like him, and promptly begins raping his own child?

"Religious authority allows the narcissist to indulge his sadistic urges and to exercise his misogynism freely and openly. Such a narcissist is likely to taunt and torment his followers, hector and chastise them, humiliate and berate them, abuse them spiritually, or even sexually. The narcissist whose source of authority is religion is looking for obedient and unquestioning slaves upon whom to exercise his capricious and wicked mastery. The narcissist transforms even the most innocuous and pure religious sentiments into a cultish ritual and a virulent hierarchy. He preys on the gullible. His flock becomes his hostages."

"Religious authority also secures the narcissist's Narcissistic Supply. His coreligionists, members of his congregation, his parish, his constituency, his audience are transformed into loyal and stable Sources of Narcissistic Supply. They obey his commands, heed his admonitions, follow his creed, admire his personality, applaud his personal traits, satisfy his needs (sometimes even his carnal desires), revere and idolize him."

I never saw or heard Herb until I was several years in the churches of God. Literature produced in the 90's drew me in. I don't know how many people would tell me how HWA would rant and rave like a lunatic and was very short-tempered and tell me this with pride as though it was an admirable trait.

"Moreover, being a part of an immanent 'bigger thing' is very gratifying narcissistically. Being a particle of God, being immersed in His grandeur, experiencing His power and blessings first hand, communing with Him are all Sources of unending Narcissistic Supply. The narcissist becomes God by observing His commandments, following His instructions, loving Him, obeying Him, succumbing to Him, merging with Him, communicating and communing with Him, or even by defying Him (the greater the narcissist's adversary-the more grandiosely important the narcissist feels).

I wouldn't be surprised if Dave Pack wasn't one step away from taking on God, himself.

Like everything else in the narcissist's life, he mutates God into a kind of inverted narcissist. God becomes his dominant Source of Supply. He forms a personal relationship with this overwhelming and overpowering entity in order to overwhelm and overpower others. He becomes God vicariously, by the proxy of his relationship with Him. He idealizes God, then devalues Him, then abuses Him. This is the classic narcissistic pattern and even God Himself cannot escape it."

Jesus was well aware of narcissists and psychopaths. He knew there were conniving liars who would play-act their ways into positions of power and control over others. He argued with them regularly, calling them vipers and white-washed tombs. Part 3 will be about His simple formula for protecting the church from narcissistic ghouls.

The Day That Never Comes

Born to push you around

Better just stay down

You pull away

He hits the flesh

You hit the ground

Mouths so full of lies

Tend to block your eyes

Just keep them closed

Keep praying

Just keep waiting

Waiting for the one

The day that never comes

When you stand up and feel the warmth

But the sunshine never comes, no

No, the sunshine never comes

Push you 'cross that line

Just stay down this time

Hide in yourself

Crawl in yourself

You'll have your time

God, I'll make them pay

Take it back one day

I'll end this day

I'll splatter color on this gray

Waiting for the one

The day that never comes

When you stand up and feel the warmth

But the sunshine never comes

Love is a four-letter word

And never spoken here

Love is a four-letter word

Here in this prison

I suffer this no longer

I'll put an end to this, I swear

This, I swear

The sun will shine

This, I swear

This, I swear

This, I swear

--Metallica, 2008

by Stoned Stephen Society

PCG: Flurry declares a fast to influence its "god" into giving them new facilities in Jerusalem

Several years ago, the Philadelphia Church of God had an office building in Jerusalem.  They touted it as necessary so they could have easy access to first-hand reports as the end times hit and the witnesses spoke for three days and then martyred in the streets of Jerusalem. Lil'Steveie and the PCG camera crew would be there to film it.

Then, Flurry's alcoholic damaged mind went into overdrive and declared that his god had revealed to him that he was the rightful owner of the Stone of Scone which is now located in Scotland.  He also made the declaration that he and his cult would soon be digging up Hill Tara in Ireland, where they would uncover the Ark of the Covenant that Jeremiah and his daughters buried while on a shopping trip there thousands of years ago.

In order to be closer to each of these two locations, the PCG sought to buy the old Bricket Wood campus. When they failed miserably to do so, the ended up buying Edstone where they started a British branch of its cult college.  In order to finance that and to give Stephen Flurry a  new home, they sold the Jerusalem office building and moved everything to Edstone.

Now, as the end times are immanently dawning over the horizon, Flurry deems it necessary to establish another office in Jerusalem.

Now that Flurry's new personal jet and the concert series have been draining the coffers of the church, the PCG is looking to influence its god into providing them a most excellent building at the least price possible.

The god of Armstrongism is a magical god who will bow to the intense pressure of 3,000 people fasting and voila! the new building will appear and Flurry will be happy.

Imagine you are a PCG member and have to drive for 5 - 6 hours to attend church services while your empty stomach is gurgling.

Flurry Asks For Church Wide Fast:

March 3, 2020

I was told by my father-in-law who is in contact with someone still inside the PCG that Gerald Flurry asked for a Church wide fast and prayer for a land deal in Israel to succeed. Apparently Flurry wants to buy some property near to Jerusalem to give the PCG a permanent foothold in the Holy Land. More requests for money are forthcoming as well as the incessant Spring Holy day guilt trip to be put on the membership. I still cringe when I think of those 3 1/2 hour Passover Services with Cal Culpepper glaring at you behind the pulpit.

Also, now all of the Kentucky PCG members have to drive anywhere from 5 to 6 hours round trip to get to the nearest congregation which is north of Cincinnati. I can only imagine wasting your entire Saturday driving hours to listen to a Sermon played on CD. So much for resting on God’s Sabbath. –B.

The Crazy Millennium Of Wade Cox

The Church of God has produced hundreds of weird and crazy splinter group leaders of its existence.  The estimates are between 400 - 700 different groups are out there preaching all kinds of heresies and utter nonsense.

And then there is Wade Cox.  Few splinter group leaders can compare to Cox. He claims the Muslims and the Koran are part of the true church.  His fantastical scenarios of the end times are also as loopy as he is.

Very soon the Wars of the End will come to a completion. We will see the Wars of the End Part I: Wars of Amalek (No. 141C) cause many of the world sinners to die in the bio-chemical War of the Fifth Trumpet and the thermonuclear War of the Sixth Trumpet.

Then God will intervene with the arrival of the Two Witnesses Enoch and Elijah as explained in Wars of the End Part II: 1260 Days of the Witnesses (No. 141D). They will deal first with the Jews and the Churches of God. They will especially stamp out Mystical Kabbalism from Judah and the Sardis and Laodicean systems of Ditheism (No. 076B) or Binitarianism or Trinitarianism (No. 076)(cf. above). They will also stamp out the Hillel false calendar of post temple Judaism. Anyone practicing these heresies will be struck dumb and inflicted with the plagues as a first warning and then killed if they do not repent.

When the Witnesses are killed by the Beast power and lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 days then Messiah and the Host will appear and they will be resurrected and taken to Christ and the entire First Resurrection will be translated and taken to Jerusalem to be with Christ to prepare for the millennial reign as explained in prophecy (Rev. Ch. 20). With Christ and the Host they will take over the earth and send the Fallen Host to Tartaros and then stamp out the military forces and apostate leadership of the world as explained in Wars of the End Part III: Armageddon and the Vials of the Wrath of God (No. 141E). The entire world will not accept Messiah except those of the elect who are called and chosen and faithful of the final Philadelphian system. The world will march against the Messiah as they opposed and killed the Witnesses (Wars of the End Part IIIB: War Against Christ (No. 141E_2)).

After many years of anticipation many of the Sardis system who have been deceived into believing Herbert Armstrong was Elijah? (No. 233) will refuse to accept the Witnesses. They will oppose the Witnesses and refuse to repent of their Ditheism, Binitarianism and Trinitarianism and refuse to reject Hillel and keep God’s Calendar (No. 156). They and their ministry will be given a chance to repent under the Witnesses. If they do not repent they will then be stricken with the plagues of Egypt and unless they repent they will be allowed to die or killed at the Return of the Messiah. If they repent they will miss the First Resurrection and will face the Tribulation but they stand a chance of living into the Millennium with the Jehovah’s Witnesses, who will also miss the First Resurrection due to their heresy, and the Adventists still alive who did not repent in time.

Then the Messiah and the Host will stamp out all false religion from Pseudo Christianity, Pseudo Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Animism and the Atheists to all other infidel systems (Wars of the End Part IV: End of False Religion (No. 141F)). There will be no person left alive who does not keep the Fourth and all other commandments (Ex, 20; Deut. 5; Surah 4:154). The entire planet will revert to the Food Laws (No. 015) of Leviticus ch. 11; Deuteronomy ch. 14; Surah. 3:093).

There will be no negotiation and no discussion. The world will do as it is told and obey God’s Laws (L1) or those people will die and be retaught in the Second Resurrection with the rest of the resurrected world after the Millennium.

Between now and the end of the Vials under Messiah the conflicts will not end and the majority of the world will die. That will be solely because they refuse to keep God’s Laws. One third will die under the Wars of the Trumpets and another quarter under the pestilence that follows. Then they will continue to die under the Witnesses and the wars of Messiah and the Vials. This will be taught by the servants of the demons as a good thing because the world is overcrowded.

Can you imagine entering into the millennium and finding out these crackpots are in charge?