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Is Dave preparing the way before himself to declare himself the Surrogate of Jesus and that he has returned in Dave form, since, obviously, the real Jesus has not responded to his plans?
Would he? Could he? Will He?
I was never sure if the following was to be seen as many saying Jesus was the Christ but... or many would claim to be Christ returned, reincarnated or coopted by themselves as surrogates for Jesus for one mentally unstable reason or another.
Rhys Evans, (1607 – c.1660) who later renamed himself 'Arise Evans' was a Welsh prophet who travelled to London to spread his premonitions. He was arrested and imprisoned around 1650 at Newgate Prison for impersonating Christ.
Ann Lee (1736–1784), the founder and leader of the Shakers. Lee's followers referred to her as "Mother", believing that she was the female incarnation of Christ on Earth.
John Nichols Thom (1799–1838), a Cornish tax rebel who claimed to be the "saviour of the world" and the reincarnation of Jesus Christ in 1834. He was killed by British soldiers at the Battle of Bossenden Wood, on 31 May 1838 in Kent, England.
Arnold Potter (1804–1872), SchismaticLatter Day Saint leader; he claimed the spirit of Jesus Christ entered into his body and he became "Potter Christ" Son of the living God. He died in an attempt to "ascend into heaven" by jumping off a cliff. His body was later retrieved and buried by his followers.
William W. Davies (1833–1906), leader of a Latter Day Saintschismatic group called the Kingdom of Heaven located in Walla Walla, Washington from 1867 to 1881. He taught his followers that he was the archangelMichael, who had previously lived as the biblicalAdam, Abraham, and David. When his son Arthur was born on 11 February 1868, Davies declared that the infant was the reincarnated Jesus Christ] When Davies's second son, David, was born in 1869, he was declared to be God the Father
lan John Miller (b. 1962), more commonly known as A.J. Miller, a former Jehovah's WitnessElder and current leader of the Australia-based Divine Truth movement.[66] Miller claims to be Jesus Christ reincarnated with others in the 20th century to spread messages that he calls the "Divine Truth". He delivers these messages in seminars and various forms of media along with his current partner Mary Suzanne Luck, who identifies herself as the returned Mary Magdalene.
Gabbie Hanna (b. 1991), an American Internet personality and singer-songwriter, went on a multi-post rant on TikTok in August 2022 claiming to be the second coming of Jesus.
Not to mention this mess of a confusing, unconvincing and jumbled reasoning that I'm not sure Dave even sounds convinced of, I gurantee you that not one minister in RCG, Enabler or member could explain what Dave is trying to say here and why "it simply can't be argued with", as Dave no doubt believes. Of course, one can't argue with that which is inexplicable.
The Hebrew month of Adar rolls along, and each sunrise brings fresh disappointment for the members of The Restored Church of God. Elijah-Elect David C. Pack returns to setting his alarm clock because even he realizes his sunrise global announcement of the Kingdom of Dave is not panning out as he thought.
“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 423)” is planned for today. The polar opposite of what was repeated last week.
Part 422 – February 18, 2023
@ 34:16 But I’m not gonna come back with more sermons. I don’t care we if have to wait another two weeks.
Ha ha ha. He could not even wait for ONE. The picture has changed. There was something WE missed. Dave’s god held back more knowledge until the very end. If he utters how the work is booming again, his nose will punch a hole in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium wall.
If Dave were silent for two weeks, there is still enough corrupt content ranging from goofy to treacherous from Parts 419-422 to keep exrcg.org busy.
During Part 421, while teaching Adar is tied to Abib, and the First Kingdom of Dave is exactly one month, he revisits the book of Haggai and Elul 24. This is where it all began. August 30, 2013, is when those of us in RCG lost our prophetic virginity. All subsequent dates have fared just as well.
The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God broke new ground last week by subtly introducing THE Uno Wildcard for prophetic understanding. This is the Holy Grail for false prophets.
Since the brethren have been accepting everything that comes out of his mouth, David C. Pack was emboldened to invent a new kind of next-level biblical fraud.
Part 421 – February 18, 2023
@ 1:01:08 And this is fascinating. Go to Haggai.I never knew how to read this, but I do now.
Words fall from Dave's lips, and he cannot see what he is actually saying. He never knew how to read this before but preached as if he did. When you receive your Master’s Degree in Dave-Speak, you will understand he was subconsciously admitting he was wrong for over ten years.
@ 1:03:30 So, then you run into this interesting case in the next chapter [Haggai 2]. God is contrasting the 24th of this month. Of this month that uses Elul as an example.
The mind seed is planted. Elul is “an example.”
Get ready.
@ 1:04:01 Now, this is also the 24th of a different month. God just throws it in there. He uses a surrogate date.The 24th. 24th. Just it’s a surrogate date.
Pause.
David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God introduces a “surrogate” in the Bible. If the brethren buy this, the door is wide open and will never close.
The danger of David C. Pack is evolving. When he gets away with this, he can get away with anything. Are you okay with this, Raymond?
surrogate
1. one appointed to act in place of another
2.a substitute, especially a person deputizing for another in a specific role or office
3. relating to the birth of a child or children by means of surrogacy
The first definition reminded me of the Catholics. It is ironic how RCG warns that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ. But, Elijah in the Kingdom of Dave operates in a similar role. Who is counterfeiting who?
This “surrogate date” is the trailblazer clear-cutting a path toward complete Christian corruption.
@ 1:04:11 But God uses the same day in two different months to illustrate something. Watch what He does.
The two months in Haggai are Elul and Kislev. Somewhere between Dave’s ears, these prove that Adar is one month and tied to Abib. But that is the least important element of these three minutes.
Note the specific dates are to “illustrate.” As an “example.” Dave reinforces the surrogate theory.
@ 1:05:26 Now, they’re two different dates. And God distinguishes them by using this same day of the month without saying a month. In the next fraternal book, Zechariah just said it. But Haggai sets it up and describes a month using a surrogate date so nobody would know.
Follow the logic and consider the devious implications.
Surrogate dates are in the Bible. Where else are they? Dave's god deceptively hid them so only he could come along to privately interpret for the brethren. The only proof needed is a series of strenuous “I swear to God” and “Because I say so” proclamations. That is good enough these days for the brethren of The Restored Church of Another god.
“Believe me. Don’t believe your Bible.”
The Bible can now say whatever David C. Pack wants it to say. That is the lethal implication of this bold discovery. Unless stopped immediately, this will escalate.
If surrogate dates are in the Bible, what else is a surrogate? Why not surrogate laws, statutes, and judgments? Maybe the seventh-day Sabbath is a surrogate. Only Dave knows. Literally.
But David C. Pack has already introduced this concept without calling it what it is. The Kingdom of Dave is a surrogate for the Kingdom of God. Elijah is a surrogate for Jesus Christ. This is not entirely new.
The heinous evil behind what David C. Pack teaches is that you cannot trust your Bible because that verse may be a surrogate detail requiring future revelation to be understood correctly.
The developments in The Restored Church of God are chilling.
Circle around to the first part of his statement.
@ 1:04:01 Now, this is also the 24th of a different month. God just throws it in there.
Per David C. Pack, the Word of God is not purified seven times. God "throws" details into the Bible as a ruse. If you cannot trust the Bible and you cannot trust the God who wrote it, why bother to be a Christian? That god is a deceiving trickster demanding Common, or it is the Lake of Fire for you.
No, thank you. I’m going fishing.
@ 1:05:50 And you wind up with a fourth way that you see a month. Or, God went out of His way to use the same date and different months for some reason we cannot know. I’ve wrestled with what’s the 24th. Now I know.
If this is wrong, then God is to blame. His current thinking is correct, or "God went out of His way" to make Dave chase his tail again.
Dave’s god immortalized in his word that he was lying to anyone who believed he was really talking about Elul 24 and Kislev 24 in the books of Haggai and Zechariah.
This is some god Dave worships. And the people in RCG pray to this god that he brings the Kingdom of Dave in the coming days. Wow. This is not a good place to be.
David C. Pack does not fear God. His corrupted thinking is as apparent as it is evil. The stakes could not be higher for the members of RCG.
@ 1:06:09 So, God is carefully (again) showing a month, with the 24th being a surrogate for that month.So we would never know until the mystery was lifted at the end.
An example. An illustration. A surrogate. The Tower of Babel is complete, and nothing is impossible for him now.
The incremental steps by David C. Pack have been heading in one direction.
1) After self-anointing himself as the only living apostle, David C. Pack seizes supreme authority in RCG.
2) With apostolic authority, he unveils he is Joshua the High Priest.
3) Since he is already found in the Bible, the transition to also being Elijah the Prophet is easy.
4) Elijah the Prophet is That Prophet. The floodgates open.
5) His mentions in the Bible nearly outnumber that of Jesus Christ.
6) He will rule his own kingdom in front of Jesus Christ.
7) Any Bible verse can say anything because it is a surrogate.
This is where we are. Does it stretch the imagination to see him going further?
8) His god will speak to him audibly.
9) He will perform miracles.
10) He is a type of christ.
Words come out of David C. Pack's mouth, and he has no idea what he is saying.
David C. Pack is a surrogate apostle
teaching a surrogate gospel
from a surrogate bible
filled with surrogate knowledge
about a surrogate kingdom
ruled by a surrogate prophet
heralding a surrogate christ
of a surrogate god.
Another bible. Another gospel. Another jesus. The Restored Church of Another god.
Ah, the Living Church of God, always the beacon of positivity and peacefulness of Christ. Where would the Church of God be without them?
Like their apostate man-child, Bwana Bob Thiel, they cannot find anything ever positive to write about unless it is how superfantabulous their own COG organization is. Instead, it is always a laundry list of whatever evil they can find that cause a negative reaction in their followers to make them feel superior and enlightened as compared to the evil world around them.
Richard Ames carries on that tradition today in LCG, though when has he ever deviated from it over the decades? Gloom, doom, and damnation is the wonderful gospel message they have to deliver to the world. Never one to focus on Jesus and much of what he accomplished they instead focus on a pissed-off God who is just itching to destroy the world. Nothing delights a COG more than to preach this message. Preach about Jesus? Nah. Preach about tribulation, disease, starvation, death, Hell yeah!
Their God has got a shopping cart next to him which he keeps adding things he is pissed off about so that when the end times come (once Dave Pack determines it) then he can unleash the biggest load of whoop-ass the world has ever seen! COG leaders will be ecstatic!
The many carnal anti-God, anti-Bible ways of the Western world are storing up God’s punishments soon to come in the Great Tribulation, the time of Jacob’s trouble (Jeremiah 30:7). Also in the current Tomorrow’s World magazine, be sure to read Mr. Weston’s featured article, “Repeating Rome’s Mistakes.”
A better thing to read would be "Why It Is A Sin To Keep Repeating Herbert Armstrong's Mistakes".
As our current world accelerates toward self-destruction, one of the obvious dangers is that of nuclear proliferation. We’ve cited the nine current nuclear nations in our booklet, Armageddon and Beyond. The Wall Street Journal reported North Korea’s recent boast of increased nuclear missiles...
This dangerous development is not only a threat to the U.S.—it is also a preview of the terrifying weaponry that will destroy a third of mankind. The sixth trumpet plague describes that powerful judgment:
So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone. By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths (Revelation 9:15-18).
Some of you may already know of the recent Doomsday Clock advancement, based on increasing dangers of world war and devastation. Britain’s Guardian newspaper reported on January 24:
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists set its Doomsday Clock at 90 seconds to midnight, the closest to midnight the clock has been since it was established in 1947 to illustrate global existential threats at the dawn of the nuclear weapons age…. Rachel Bronson, the president and CEO of the Bulletin, said the clock had been moved forward from 100 seconds to midnight, where it had been for the previous three years, “largely, though not exclusively, because of the mounting dangers in the war in Ukraine. We are living in a time of unprecedented danger, and the Doomsday Clock time reflects that reality.”
If only LCG and Bob Thiel talked about Jesus as much as they do the "doomsday clock"
Philippians 4:6-7 - "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."
