Ron Weinland: Oops! My Bad! Jesus Is Coming Next Year, or Maybe After That, or Maybe.....

Ron Weinland preached another sermon on what was supposed to be the last day of earth.  The morally and spiritual bankrupt false prophet and now documented liar, is tripping all over himself making excuses.  He made no mistake, it will still happen, however he is now moving on to a different phase.

Bob Thiel sat down and listen to Ron's sermon and made these notes:

We have proven, by how we live, who we are…We have followed the way God has led us…It’s just a bit farther…

Pentecost 2012 is being proven incorrect for the return of Jesus Christ…Does that negate that I am God’s witness and prophet?  Absolutely not!…

Ron seems to forget this scripture from his Bible:

 “If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him” (Deut. 18:22).

It will be on a Pentecost that Jesus will return…We just didn’t know there would be a little more to the race…Jesus Christ is to return on Pentecost…

Oops!  My Bad!  It wasn't 2012.  It will be next year, or the year after that,or the year after that, or...

All have to examine, reexamine, where they are…So many things we have not understood.  The work of the two witnesses is over…We are going into a different phase…

Over???? You haven't done any work, especially your wife! There has not been a peep our of her.  Nothing to prove she is one of the two witnesses.

Mockers…have to excuse away what they do not want to hear…

There is no contradiction in God’s word…

There is only one answer to where we are…

Jesus Christ must return on Pentecost…What does it mean?..

And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. {Acts 2:19-21}

Beautiful.  I think of the 63,000…There is so much coming brethren.  So much that is exciting…The three and a half years is finished.  The job of the two witnesses is complete.  My job as a prophet and apostle continues…

So now that Ron's failed prophecy has been epic, his job as one of the two witnesses is now over?  When did it ever start.  He has never proclaimed a worldwide message.  Never preached from the streets of Jerusalem.  Nothing.  Never fear though.  Ron will continue on as a prophet and apostle to lie, blaspheme and steal peoples money in order to keep himself,  his wife and offspring in their comfortable lifestyle.  His daughter should be prosecuted for stealing money too!  Lock up the entire family!

Is this {Acts 2:19-21} teaching that the sun will turn into darkness before the Day of the Lord?  No, no, no…In the New Testament, especially, things are messed up…they don’t have the grammar…

Is this idiot serious? The Bible he considers inerrant is messed up because the ancients did not know grammar? LOL!   Those ancients certainly knew about lying false prophets!

Mockers…people will have a ‘hay day’ with it…

You can run another year…

More in 2008 in God’s Final Witness will come to pass…Now we can see…

What follows the work of the two witnesses now being completed?  We move forward…

Jesus Christ did not eternally exist…

It is in God’s hands…I understand the outrage that some will manifest by these words…God has brought us to this point in time…

We move forward ever thankful for the last 3 1/2 years we have not suffered {physically} as we could have…

A few things have to happen..for Europe…to grant people more time for repentance…

It's always someone else's fault.  Dumb church members, society as a whole, but NEVER, I repeat NEVER is the prophet or apostle wrong.

Now we move forward and continue on…We are going to be waiting another year.  For we know it has to occur on Pentecost…We are God’s true church.  There is nowhere else to go.

Yes there is!  You may soon find yourself headed to jail.  I can't wait!

Dave Pack: I Am A Better Witness Than Ron Weinland

The worlds most perfect Church of God leader to have ever graced this universe is mocking Ron Weinland for his epic failure today as one of the two witnesses.  Dave apparently thinks HE is the better one of the witnesses.  Since Dave runs the worlds largest Church of God ministry, has the most people, rakes in more money and has the most beautiful campus road in the world, it all stands to reason that Dave has to puff his chest out even more.

The Two Witnesses have become a subject of great speculation. But silly theories have replaced what was once sound understanding among God’s people. With the passing of time, as their arrival becomes more imminent, interest will only increase. Few today seem to remember what the Church taught—and so plainly—including how these men will appear, and from where they will receive their office.

The most prominent self-proclaimed “Two Witnesses”—Ron Weinland and his wife—will be revealed as frauds on Sunday, May 27. This husband/wife “team” will fail in spectacular fashion. Sadly, their public debacle will be an embarrassment—a black eye—to those who understand the truth of these two final prophets.

For those who are sobered by this deception, it is more important than ever that God’s people well understand the Two Witnesses. They need to know the TRUTH about the final two prophets soon to appear. You can understand the Two Witnesses!

Dave's chest thumping is here:  Where Will the Two Witnesses Come From?

Ron Weinland: Still No Jesus

The sun has not set on the West Coast and Pacific Islands, so Weinerdude's false "jesus" still has time to return.  But don't count on it.

The apostate false prophet, Ron Weinland is already making excuses for his latest failure.  He posts today:

The “present truth”—truth that we have at this moment in time—truth that is “presently” with us is a possible reality that is not easy to carry. We have believed that Jesus Christ would begin his return in the atmosphere of this earth today, the Sabbath day of May 26th. We have believed this to be a matter of timing for sundown in Jerusalem toward the end of May 26th.

As I write this, that time is just about here and nothing has begun in the world that would signal the need or purpose for that reality—Christ’s return. Yes, it could still take place, as the timing in this present day of a worldwide observance of God’s Sabbath is still ongoing. Such is fully in God’s hands and according to His will, as to what comes to pass and when. It is true that after the captivity of Judah in Babylon that the Jewish people began using the Babylon system of counting time and God did begin to deal with them more according to the type of system they had begun to use. Certainly the weekly Sabbath and annual Holy Days were still counted according to God’s calendar of timing.

So today, I will still look for the possible fulfillment of all those things we have looked forward to right up to the end of the Sabbath day in Hawaii, as that is the timing used today in this modern world.

Yet I feel compelled to write this post, as I strongly feel it is necessary for God’s people right now. I will still look for the possibility of Christ’s coming right up until the very end of this Sabbath on earth. For the sake of all God’s people, I hope that there is not more we must learn concerning Christ’s return, but it appears we likely do have more to “see.” We know there is much that God has been revealing, in the manner that He has, which is due to a great spiritual war that continues right up to the coming of Jesus Christ. We have come to “see” (by experience and revelation from God) that God reveals to us what we need when we need it, especially during this end-time and the closing out of this age of mankind, with the process of bringing to an end Satan’s influence and rule in this world.

 So what will he do Sunday or Monday when nothing has happened?  The time and date in Jerusalem is now the 27th and Jesus has not returned on Jerusalem time.

As the hours progressed this morning toward what we have looked to as a final countdown to Christ’s coming, there have been those things that have been flooding my mind that I have not wanted to address, but felt I should. I have experienced this every time in the past when God has begun revealing His will and purpose to me—revelation of more truth—understanding and clarification of truth already given.

We have indeed gone through many mixed feelings over the past few weeks as we have approached this Pentecost of 2012. The anticipation of such an event right up to the last minute reminds me of Abraham when he was about to follow through with the sacrifice of his own son. The feelings and emotion of such a time cannot be understood nor appreciated until having experienced something similar in faith. We now relate more to Noah than we ever did in the past. Such is pleasing to God that people remain faithful to the end when God intervenes to fulfill His word or to reveal another way. God revealed another way to Abraham. As I consider these truths, I understand the outrage that some will manifest by these words. I also understand the relief that God is giving me to “see” what He is revealing concerning “another way,” or an addition and clarification of “His way” to bring the end-time to a close.

By the end of this day, in the last time zone for this Sabbath day, if Jesus Christ has not begun his return to this earth, then we will do as a minister in the Netherlands said to me today concerning what God admonishes His people to do, “We move forward.” Indeed we will, for we know God’s Church.

 More forward with what?  More lies and deceptive filth?  Scripture tells all the followers of Weinerdude that if he utters just once prophecy and it fails then he is to be labelled a false prophet and is not to be followed.  But his followers will continue on with him swallowing his filth as if it was God inspired.

So candidly, I am disappointed that Jesus Christ hasn’t begun his return. But I am also excited to know that there remains a short work in front of us. That will be explained in the Pentecost sermon that I will be organizing and prerecording as soon as I finish writing this post.

 I wasn’t disappointed when God revealed to us that the two witnesses are not literally killed and then lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 ½ days. That revelation was easy to receive. That which God is now revealing is a little more difficult because we had our hope so set on Christ coming on this Pentecost. Knowing that he may not is indeed disappointing, but it is not something to shake our faith in any manner. Instead, we take the good with the bad and we move forward!

That which is most important is that we follow God where ever He leads and however He leads us. The reality is that due to what God is now revealing, I am also encouraged to see that much of what was written in 2008 – God’s Final Witness will become more meaningful and more powerfully revealed.

These things I am writing at this moment are being done so quickly in order to inform all God’s people that we are to “be strong and of good courage.” What we are living is not easy, but it is all for a very great purpose. Do not become discouraged, even though we know what is ahead will be difficult. People will have to face matters of employment, humility, finances, ridicule, etc., but we move forward ever thankful that the past 3 ½ years were not of great physical tribulation on this earth with the suffering it would have brought with it. But what is ahead is not easy. It will be difficult, but God will see us through.

Having said all this, I am now going to begin working on the Pentecost sermon that will be posted as soon as it is finished, just as this past Sabbath’s prerecorded sermon was posted. In this manner we can begin regrouping and refocusing on what lies ahead. Time passes and our hardships and trials will pass, and in all this God will be with you and give you the strength and intervention you need to move forward.

This Pentecost sermon will explain much. God has been merciful to us and has revealed so much to us over the past few years. He continues to do so. Wait on Him for He will not forsake us nor leave us.

Through all this my initial hope remains the same, as the sun has not set on the 26th in all the world. But if we must go forward, then so be it! God’s will be done.

It will be interesting to see how he lies to his followers on Pentecost.