Is It Profitable To Seek "Wise Counsel" From A COG Minister?

Living Church of God has a little blurb up by Doug Winnail about seeking "wise counsel" from the ministry and others instead of not relying upon your own intuition on some things.

Given the abysmal track record of the ministry of the COG interfering and destroying lives of their members due to their "wise counsel," why would any COG member in this day and age EVER considered a minister telling them what they should or should not be doing?  Most COG ministers are not trained to actually do "wise counselling."  They rely only upon gut feelings, just as the person who is seeking counsel is doing.

CAD Comments - Friday, August 04, 2017

The Value of Counsel

One common pitfall in life is trusting in our own judgment when we only see part of the picture or when we only see what we want to see. When we make decisions or take actions based on how we feel or how we see a situation, the results can be costly for ourselves and for others. This is why Solomon advised in Proverbs 3:5, “lean not on your own understanding,” and in Proverbs 3:7, “Do not be wise in your own eyes,” and again in Proverbs 28:26, “He who trusts in his [or her] own heart is a fool…” Solomon also warned in Proverbs 14:12, “There is a way that seems right to a man [or to a woman], but its end is the way of death.” To help us avoid making serious mistakes in life, God inspired Solomon to write in Proverbs 11:14, “Where there is no counsel, the people fall; but in a multitude of counselors there is safety” and again in Proverbs 15:22, “Without counsel, plans go awry, but in the multitude of counselors they are established.” We can obtain wise counsel from parents, the ministry, and from older, more experienced friends, relatives and associates who can be objective and help us see a bigger picture than we perceive on our own. Seeking wise counsel is a habit we can develop that will help us succeed and avoid making serious mistakes.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail

Of course, there is nothing wrong with seeking wise counsel on different issues and circumstances in life.  People who have the experience or been in similar situations have a multitude of knowledge to share.  Many of the ministry in the Church of God do not.  Their so-called training has come from booklets and sermons, not from spending hundreds of hours taking training on how to be empathetic listeners.  Instead, they lash out with absurd and sometimes dangerous conclusions that members are required to follow, or else they are kicked to the curb.  Truly, is there an LCG minister actually trained by an outside college or institution, in therapy and counseling?
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God's ONLY True End Time Prophet Likes The Idea Of "Burkini's" For Women

Why is it that so many of the ministry of the Church of God are sexually titillated by women in such a way that they need to have women cover up every bare inch of skin so that they, the holy men of God, cannot be tempted.  Are they that weak and immature?  Why is lust such a problem for COG ministers?  It's not like many women would be lusting after these men!

Today, we have God's most knowledgeable right-hand man/boy prophet, approving of the burkini's that many Muslim women wear tot he beach.

Almost-arrested and jailed, Elisha, Elijah, Joshua, Habakkuk, Amos, doubly blessed, apostle, prophet, future martyr, bitter "son" of the late Rod Meredith,  and Chief Overseer, Bob Thiel, has a posting up today about Germany attacking France, because France refuses to allow burkini's on their beaches.

Elijah Thiel wrote this:

The following was reported by the German press:

7 August 2017
A Muslim woman was barred from using a swimming pool at a vacation home in southern France because she wore a burkini bathing suit, the Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF) said on its website. …
The owner of the vacation home told the family that the pool needed to be drained and cleaned since the woman had used it. He then reportedly withheld the family’s 490-euro ($577) deposit in order to pay for the cleaning fees. …
The CCIF dismissed the house owner’s claims that the woman’s suit was unhygienic, as burkinis are made from elastic synthetic fabrics used for wetsuits and other types of swimwear. Burkinis cover all areas of the body except for the face, hands and feet.
Controversy over the full-body swimsuit erupted in France last summer when several communities along the French Riviera banned burkinis on public beaches.
The bans were eventually struck down by France’s highest administrative court, which said they constituted serious and illegal violations of fundamental freedoms. http://www.dw.com/en/woman-barred-from-french-vacation-home-pool-over-burkini/a-39984955

And then had to add this:

Women should be able to wear full body bathing suits when swimming, etc.
Notice something that the Apostle Paul wrote:

8 I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; 9 in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, (1 Timothy 2:8-9)

The idea that women need to be almost totally naked to swim in a pool is wrong.

Promoting lust is wrong, promoting modesty is not. 

Many ministers in the Church of God have had profound issues with lust. They have stalked, molested and raped COG girls and women.  Their hearts have been filled with depravity.  Apparently, Elijah Thiel has some issues he needs to deal with in order to over come the pollution of his heart.

Mark 7:21-23The Message (MSG)

20-23 He went on: “It’s what comes out of a person that pollutes: obscenities, lusts, thefts, murders, adulteries, greed, depravity, deceptive dealings, carousing, mean looks, slander, arrogance, foolishness—all these are vomit from the heart. There is the source of your pollution.”

Dave Pack, The Cowardly Lion

Poor Dave Pack.

Dave is more concerned about his personal welfare than he is boldly proclaiming his gospel to the world.  Dave admits he will not go into certain neighborhoods.  The only neighborhood Dave is in anymore is his cult compound in Wadsworth, Ohio.  He has admitted he very seldom leaves the confines of his campus.  He has further isolated himself in the middle of the compound where he is surrounded by a few of his elite men.

Dave has never been a real he man when it comes to being a fearless minister who treasures the words of Jesus over hiding in some lily-white COG Steppford neighborhood.

Praying for the escape of brethren becomes so much more meaningful—and daily—with this new knowledge. Most of God’s people live in dangerous areas of the world, but when I say that, it’s a different world. Who is to say what is and is not dangerous, if you’re in a mall, on a train, or just walking out of a building and there’s a shooter. So I stay out of dangerous neighborhoods.

Some COG ministers over the decades went into the dangerous neighborhoods that impotent Dave avoids.  They valued their message and their God more than they did their lives, something that Dave is incapable of understanding.

 Poor old Dave.