Saturday, June 21, 2025

Dave Pack: Bursting the Summer Bubble

 



Bursting Summer Bubbles

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 580)” on June 14, 2025, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God renounced his belief that the Kingdom of God would arrive on the summer solstice occurring on June 20, 2025. Much to the secret chagrin of his naïve followers, the Pastor General popped their hope-filled balloons that their nightmarish slog through the dismal swamp of prophetic purgatory was close to ending.

Only a surprise to the All-Believing Zealots and former critical thinker Edward Winkfield, Dave reversed his prophetic stance on end-time circumstances. He distanced himself from his summer solstice blunder.

David C. Pack also claims he is taking a hiatus from date-setting in general. These announced reprieves usually last as long as a teenager’s attention span.

It was only a week before that Dave was deeply in love with the summer solstice of June 20 occurring at the start of Sabbath, and that combination would not be repeated for over 500 years. For a so-called apostle, David C. Pack speaks a lot of words proven untrue by his own mouth within days.

Flashback Part 579 – June 7, 2025
@ 31:20 I could never offer you any other date after looking at this, and we got a lot more to cover. Could never offer you another date.

@ 50:33 Can you imagine me coming in two or three weeks and telling you some other date? It’s outta the question. All the discomfort is gone.

Nobody needed to imagine it, nor did they have to wait two whole weeks because Dave’s resolve withered inside one. He used large piles of malarkey to prop up his goofy ideas and wrapped it all in desperate human logic.

@ 17:31 I mean, now we’re up to some fairly serious coincidences here.

@ 29:42 So, we’re looking at a, I mean, a staggering, a staggering coincidence.

@ 55:45 I can't bothe–I can't slow down. I can't bother to study with a Bible. It's way too slow.

If only David C. Pack had recognized the value of carefully studying his Bible with a Bible. If only David C. Pack understood that piling up perceived coincidences does not equal biblical facts.

My free advice: More Bible reading with fewer coincidences. Got it, Dave?

David C. Pack foolishly mocks and blasphemes God each time he gives Him credit for the content of “The Greatest Untold Story!” Without shame, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God makes God a liar by renouncing what he said was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

@ 55:32 It has to be God just would show me. And eventually, when He put it all together, and eventually when it came together, it was literally bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. That's the way it comes me …So I know God helps me.

Dave’s god did not show him or help him enough because less than seven days later, he dissolved his summer solstice theory, bursting the bubble of those few who still take him at his word.



Despite the staggering coincidences, inspiration from a non-god, and assurances that no other date would come, Dave’s prophetic Jenga tower toppled due to his ignorance of a single Greek word. So he says.


Part 580 – June 14, 2025
@ 33:23 "…and we bore the heat,” you know, the kauson, not theros, translated "summer" in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. But they both mean exactly the same thing. They both mean heat. That’s one reason I no longer believe that summer, which is the, you know, the solstice, means anything other than heat.

@ 34:14 So, it doesn’t mean “summer” in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. You know the heat is coming. So, it isn’t talking about the summer solstice.

Last week, it did mean summer in Matthew, Mark, and Luke, but this week, it does not mean summer in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Why? David C. Pack uses “because I say so” theology, which easily renders a 92-minute sermon impotent.

@ 35:11 It’s a type of heat. We’re waiting for heat. Brethren, we are not waiting for the summer solstice, and this will become more evident. I've got some fascinating to tell you. But you'd but you don't hafta wonder if we're gonna wait long. But we are not waiting for the summer solstice.

Dave’s confession further exposed his faulty logic that “summer” equated to “the summer solstice” when the Bible did not say that. See, even the translators knew better. The more Dave talks, the more he reveals how flimsy his own presumptuous embellishments are.

David C. Pack is quite efficient at tanking the reliability of David C. Pack. He tried to bury his previous week’s teaching about the summer solstice but only exposed more of his own ineptitude.



A single Greek word helped Dave see the error of his ways so he could denounce the Kingdom of God’s arrival on June 20. Clinging to that excuse did more damage than he realized.

A single Greek word again revealed that David C. Pack moves David C. Pack. Not God. God has nothing to do with “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series. The still, small voice of Dave’s god must have been so small and still that he could not hear it screaming at him what “summer” really meant.

To further compound the silliness of Part 579, Dave throws more gasoline on his own credibility.

@ 51:19 Now, would God use that? [chuckles] Would God use the summer solstice? Probably not. Think what that would mean to the to the to the pagans. To the heathen who are out there who would come up and see we we rose on the summer solstice.

Last week, Dave gave God the glory for inspiring this teaching. This week, Dave took it away for fear of glorifying those pesky pagans.

@ 34:38 But I didn’t know enough about Greek words per “heat” to know that you could use the word “heat.” That that word is there heat. The translators just decided to call theros summer. Duddn’t mean summer. Just means hot.

Unfortunately for Dave, some people study the Bible with an actual Bible. If there are any members left in RCG who still bother to read it, they would quickly discover that the context for the parables in Matthew, Mark, and Luke is about the growth of fig trees. Dave intentionally glossed over this.

If only the tithe and Common-paying members of The Restored Church of God would recognize that their Pastor General has entirely abandoned the Rules for Effective Bible Study that they are urged to follow. 

Just one of these rules would have spared Dave from needing to retire yet another Part in his unending Series. It is still a sanctioned resource available at rcg.org.

Rule #6 “Examine the Context”

Fig tree leaves bud just before summer and bear fruit in late summer. The word was correctly translated as "summer.” Using “heat" would make no sense, but Dave had to grasp at something to attempt to save face. Members who fact-check their human idol experience many eye-opening moments.

Just for fun, Brad should slip a 3x5 card with the 12 Rules for Effective Bible Study into Dave's briefcase and run away. Tehran would not be the only place in the world to soon experience a mushroom cloud.

Pastor General David C. Pack selectively ignores multiple effective Bible study rules because facts hinder him at every turn. Dave prides himself on knowing the Bible inside and out without needing to crack it open because his memory is just that good.

Reading is a crutch for the spiritually weak and unseasoned, except for those who keep getting it wrong. David C. Pack is woefully unskilled at prophetic understanding. He cannot grasp just how often he exposes himself as being a false apostle and false prophet, and the cowardly hirelings at Headquarters dare not inform him.

Nothing can stop Dave from making wild personal interpretations when an array of coincidental thoughts enter his mind. With the summer solstice off the table, the members of The Restored Church of God were left without a date to cleave to.



Greek words aside, there was a less tangible reason why the Kingdom of God would not arrive on the summer solstices this year. In The Restored Church of God, solid biblical doctrines are built on the foundation of feelings.

Dear Brethren of The Restored Church of God,
pay attention to what your Pastor General tells you.
He says everything you need to hear
to know if God is guiding him or not.

@ 34:23 So, it isn’t talking about the summer solstice. I was I was very, very uncomfortable. I’ll just say that. Very uncomfortable.

That is contrary to what he said the week before.

Flashback Part 579 – June 7, 2025
@ 50:33 Can you imagine me coming in two or three weeks and telling you some other date? It’s outta the question. All the discomfort is gone.

All the discomfort was gone while he preached the summer solstice in Part 579. What is the source of these feelings?

@ 00:35 I learned long ago, and I've explained this to you, that the Comforter in you will not leave you if you are one of God’s ministers and, never mind, a the leading minister uncomfortable. You will not be uncomfortable, never mind extremely so if if it is if you’re your date is correct.

The “comforter” David C. Pack credits gave him peace while preaching Part 579, but he became very uncomfortable afterward. Why did Dave’s god allow him to swim in contentment while preaching the false summer solstice theory but discomfort after preaching the summer solstice?

Since 2012, Dave’s “comforter” has moved him into unease after he speaks. Why not before? Why not spare the brethren the rollercoaster of anticipation and disappointment week by week?

It is because David C. Pack is not inspired by God to preach what he does. He speaks out of his own mouth and from his own mind. Face that fact. Accept that fact. Freedom is within your grasp, brethren.

One tactic Dave coils around when he gets desperate is to huddle near lesser men when a meat shield is required.

Part 580 – June 14, 2025
@ 34:23 So, it isn’t talking about the summer solstice. I was I was very, very uncomfortable. I’ll just say that. Very uncomfortable. It turns out one other minister was as well, with the idea that God would come off of the summer solstice.

Yet, that man kept his mouth shut when it could have mattered. The hirelings at Headquarters are complicit Yes Men who have been trained by Dave to agree at every turn with Dave or risk facing the wrath of Dave. I may call out Ryan Denee for being the Chief Coward of Headquarters, but he is not the only one. They all lack the courage of their convictions, letting their human idol run amok without consequence or accountability.

How the uncomfortable “minister” was outed was left a mystery. Having experienced Dave personally, he could very well have gone seeking affirmation after the fact. “You felt uncomfortable, too, right?” “Yes, Mr. Pack.” That is how it works at Headquarters, folks.

Each time David C. Pack expounds on how comfortable and peaceful he feels, rest assured that state of mind is temporary. The gnawing discomfort always returns.



Instead of his usual offering of another date in lieu of the abandoned one, Dave finally realized that no man knows the day nor the hour for the return of Jesus Christ. If he had not already visited this theological location, you might just blink twice.

@ 47:14 A lot of verses say you can’t figure out or know the hour. And I'm I'm almost to the point, and you'll you'll see at the end where I think you ab–we cannot know. We’re supposta see the day approaching. Not count the days. Took me a long time to get there.

@ 1:07:04 But I no longer see that as an equation with an exact day. I must slice and dice out of the Scriptures and tell you it's this day. I've been there and done that.

He has been there and done that 130 times since 2012.

@ 1:31:28 We just simply may not ever know the day and hour the Son of Man comes until He does. But it's all right if you're ready. [slams table] You can't know or think the up–it’s all right if you’re ready.

For keen observers of David C. Pack's words and behaviors, this current stance will be temporary. After Dave catches his prophetic breath, he will be back to obsessing over the calendar because some new, impossible-to-misunderstand idea will pop into his head.

Despite the passing of the summer solstice, the end of the Series is nowhere in sight.

David C. Pack may be a false prophet, a failed prophecy expert, and an incompetent teacher, but he is a master at bursting his own bubbles.


Marc Cebrian

Crackpot Prophet : The Writing Is On The Wall For Those Who Fail To Recognize Me And My Propehcies!

 


Check this out! Our self-proclaimed, boastful prophet of God is back with another rambling sermon. In just over an hour, he jumps between 5,000 unrelated points, delivering his usual scattered message. But, of course, someone’s got to do it, so why not let it be Bob!

The Great Bwana Bob Thiel remains upset that no one—not in the Churches of God, not on Banned, nor the ex-members he hopes to win back—takes him seriously.

Like any self-appointed Church of God prophet, he’s obsessed with Daniel rather than the New Covenant. Here’s him bragging about his latest Daniel sermon. I’ve broken down his endless paragraph to highlight the points he’s trying to cover.

Pay close attention to his last point:

Daniel 4-5: The Handwriting on the Wall

This is the second part of a multi-sermon series intended to cover the Book of Daniel. 
 
This sermon covers each and every verse of the 4th and 5th chapters of the Book of Daniel. 
 
In it, Dr. Thiel covers matters such as another dream of Nebuchadnezzar, 
 
the uselessness of astrologers, 
 
the identity of the watchers, 
 
the identity of the Holy One, 
 
United Church of God’s identification of the watchers, 
 
the seven times/years that Nebuchadnezzar lived like an animal, 
 
pride, 
 
Lucifer, 
 
Jonah, 
 
doing God’s work, 
 
the everlasting Kingdom of God, 
 
Belshazzar’s feast, 
 
numerical values of Mene, Mene, Tekel, & Upharsin, 
 
the United States and its British-descended allies (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom) in prophecy, 
 
debt, 
 
Habakkuk, 
 
Ray Dalio’s comments on the dangers of the debt spiral, 
 
who is to defeat the end time ‘daughter of Babylon,’ 
 
and those that do not want to hear or respond to God’s servants and prophecies.

I bet you are all shaking in your boots right now for failing to reposnd to Bob and his prophecies.  I know I'm NOT! 

Friday, June 20, 2025

AiCOG: The Myth of the Lost Tribes: Unraveling Armstrongism’s Genealogical Fantasy



Herbert W. Armstrong built a cornerstone of his Worldwide Church of God on a wild idea: the Lost Tribes of Israel didn’t vanish after the Assyrian conquest—they migrated to Western Europe and became nations like Britain and the United States. This genealogical fantasy, rooted in British-Israelism, claims the British are Ephraim and the Americans Manasseh, backed by shaky interpretations of Genesis 49 and a dash of historical guesswork. But it’s time to pull back the curtain. Armstrong’s theory crumbles under moral scrutiny for promoting exclusivity, biblical analysis for misreading scripture, and historical evidence for lacking support. We’ll show why this myth is a house of cards, spoiler: DNA and archaeological records aren’t buying it.

Twisting Tribal Blessings

Armstrong leaned heavily on Genesis 49, where Jacob blesses his sons, interpreting these as prophecies for modern nations. He linked Ephraim and Manasseh to Britain and America, citing their “multitude of nations” and “great nation” status. But the New Interpreter’s Bible, a respected biblical commentary, clarifies these blessings were symbolic, outlining tribal roles within ancient Israel, not predictions of future migrations. The text aimed to unify Israel’s identity, not map it onto Anglo-Saxon history.

This misreading is biblically flawed. The Cambridge History of Judaism shows the northern tribes were assimilated into Judah after the Babylonian Exile, with no evidence of a separate exodus. Armstrong’s stretch ignores 2 Kings 17, which details their deportation to Mesopotamia, not Europe. His genealogical fantasy twists scripture into a tool for national pride, a moral misstep that divides rather than unites believers.

No Evidence of Migration

Armstrong’s narrative hinges on a mass migration from the Near East to Western Europe after 722 BCE, but the Oxford History of the Biblical World and The Bible Unearthed by Finkelstein and Silberman paint a different picture. Archaeological records from Assyria confirm the tribes were resettled in places like Nineveh, with no trace of a westward trek. The Oxford text notes their assimilation into the empire, a common fate for deported peoples, not a grand journey to form new nations.

British-Israelism, the 19th-century pseudohistory Armstrong adopted, relies on fabricated linguistic links—like “Saxon” from “Isaac’s sons”—debunked by scholars in the Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute. The Cambridge History reinforces this, showing no historical basis for connecting Anglo-Saxon origins to Israel. Armstrong’s migration story is historically baseless, a fantasy built on thin air.

No Lost Tribes DNA

Modern genetics delivers the knockout punch. Behar et al.’s 2010 study in Nature analyzed the genome-wide structure of Jewish populations, finding a clear Middle Eastern ancestry shared by Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews. There’s no significant genetic overlap with British or American populations, contradicting Armstrong’s racial claims. Jewish DNA aligns with other Semitic groups, not Celtic or Anglo-Saxon lineages.

This genetic evidence exposes the moral flaw in Armstrong’s theory: it promotes a false sense of chosenness, excluding most Christians from God’s plan. Historically, it clashes with the assimilation narrative supported by the Oxford History. Armstrong’s genealogical fantasy doesn’t hold up to science or history—it’s a convenient myth for control.

Top 10 Oddest Lost Tribes Claims from Armstrongism

Here’s a rundown of the strangest assertions Armstrong and his followers made, showing the absurdity of their genealogical fantasy:

1. Britain is Ephraim Because of Its Commonwealth
    The “multitude of nations” in Genesis 48:19 became the British Empire—never mind the colonial     context.

2. America is Manasseh Due to Its Size
    A “great nation” fits the U.S., ignoring other large nations like China with no tribal claim.

3. Saxon Comes from Isaac’s Sons
    A linguistic leap debunked by historians, yet central to their narrative.

4. The Stone of Scone Proves British Royalty
    A coronation stone linked to Jacob’s pillow—pure speculation with no evidence.

5. Celtic Traditions Are Israelite
    Bagpipes and kilts tied to ancient Israel, a cultural stretch with no archaeological support.

6. The U.S. Eagle Matches Manasseh’s Symbol
    Heraldry twisted to fit a tribal emblem, ignoring its Roman origins.

7. British Weather Reflects Israelite Blessings
    Rainy skies as a sign of God’s favor—apparently drought-prone Israel was a typo.

8. Anglo-Saxon Laws Stem from Mosaic Law
    A legal system traced to Exodus, despite clear Roman and Germanic influences.

9. The Throne of David Survived in Britain
    Queen Victoria as a Davidic heir, with no genealogical record to back it. 
 
        10. Prophecies Point to Modern Wealth
    Israel’s blessings explained Britain’s and America’s prosperity, ignoring global economic factors.
    Splinterland, Ditch the Fantasy

Armstrong’s Lost Tribes myth is a moral burden, fostering exclusivity and division among believers. Biblically, it misuses scripture like Genesis 49, as the New Interpreter’s Bible shows, and historically, it collapses under the weight of Cambridge, Oxford, and genetic evidence. The top 10 list reveals the lengths Armstrongism went to prop up this fantasy—lengths that don’t hold up. Its time to let go of this genealogical fiction and embrace a faith grounded in truth, not tribal tall tales.


The Myth of the Lost Tribes © 2025 by AiCOG is licensed under CC BY-ND 4.0





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