A Few Thoughts From Van Robison

A Few Thoughts From Van Robison

In four months I will be 71 years of age.   In my short life span I have come to believe that human leaders of men, have no more comprehension of what the truth about God is, than a jackrabbit.   After many years of church attendance, which not only included 12-years at Ambassador College in Pasadena, but also charismatic, pentecostal, Baptist and other groups,  I have to conclude that all churches are man-made institutions.   Churches are very divided as to what "truth" is and every group sees "truth" from a different perspective.   Anyone whose shallow and extremely narrow religious experience, only includes the Worldwide Church of God or any one of its many splinter groups, has very limited thinking and perspective.   The same of course applies to all Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and all other groups, where the church goer has never spent years attending other groups.

It is a shame that so many people limit themselves, probably because of FEAR, more than any other reason.   How often I have read of personal accounts of various church goers, who lived in fear and only with great struggle were able to be set free from years of some church cult.   There is no greater feeling of freedom, than to be free from the indoctrination of church cults.   While being sincere is a good quality, at the same time sincerity is no guarantee of truth.

Like many others, I too have struggled with my own thinking and I don't pretend to have all the answers.   All I have are my own personal convictions based upon all my own experiences in life.  For whatever reason it would seem that God is not the Person that the church world thinks He is.  God has not intervened and stopped all the insane and diabolical wars, nor has He intervened and stopped all the sicknesses, diseases, accidents, trauma and horrors that human beings experience in life on earth.

God has never stopped the religious fraud in His name, nor the endless parade of propaganda that inundates the world.   God has not taken down the wolves in sheep's clothing who stand in pulpits and pretend to speak for God. God has never put a stop to all the confusion in the world of religious beliefs.   God has not even answered prayer for many who died or suffered in spite of zealous and very emotional prayer.   Why???   No human answer ever satisfies the deep down desire to know the reason for the agonies of life.

Human suffering is the ultimate question and no one really understands why it is or must be.  It is easy to understand why many turn to atheism and the church world is in part responsible for causing many to turn away from belief in God, all the while the supposed purpose of church, is to turn people to God.    Human beings are creatures of habit and it is a habit to "go to church" and to stop thinking.   Church goers don't think because the whole concept of church going, is that the pastors of the churches do the thinking, while the church goers simply nod approval.

I am sure that I will continue to question as long as I live and I have learned from life, that to trust pastors, preachers or church rulers with "truth" is a major and serious mistake.   Nor do I believe that God/Jesus Christ expected human being to blindly submit to religious rulers of men, as if they speak for God.   And that is also why I question the validity of the Bible itself, because after all it was compiled by men, edited endless times,  "translated" from other languages, interpreted by human reasoning, and made to appear as if God authored it.

Perhaps some day and it most likely will not be in this life time, we may know the truth, which seems to be very flexible in the human realm.


Van Robison

Rod Meredith: The Cumulative Old Ages Of Our Ministers Makes Us Better Suitable To Run The True Church Than Snot-nosed Upstarts Like Thiel and Pack

Does the fact that you have a group of old men at the top of your hierarchy who trained at the feet of Herbert Armstrong make you a legitimate true church?  Rod Meredith thinks it does when it comes to the men in charge at his problem wracked group. 

Having old men in charge, without bringing in new blood with new ideas and ways of looking at things and then doing it differently, is bad business practice.  That is what the COG's are, businesses.  Its all about money.  The members have heard the same doctrines for decades.  They have heard the same shouting and bellowing from the pulpit.  Nothing new is discussed.  Nothing revitalized is brought forth.  21st century ideas and research are not used.  It's just the view points of old men rehashing the worn out words from the 1960's, 70's and 80's.  None have been to a seminary outside of Armstrongism.  None have dared to critically look at the book the claim to follow.  None have dared to question the teachings of their idol they bow down to.

In an effort to stop defections to Dave Pack's cult and to non-ordained self-appointed prophet Thiel's cult, they toss out the fact that they have so many old men in charge.  You are supposed to be impressed by these guys because the snort-nosed upstarts like Dave Pack and Thiel have never trained with HWA.

In the Living Church of God, we are doing all we can to strengthen our brethren, and help them understand “the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27). Frankly, we are far better equipped to do this because most of the older ministers and those who worked directly with Mr. Herbert Armstrong came with us near the beginning of this Work! Men like Messrs. Dibar Apartian, Raymond McNair, Syd Hegvold, Carl McNair, Richard Ames—and others—were older, experienced ministers who worked with Mr. Armstrong or, as in Mr. Ames’ case, were even placed on the World Tomorrow telecast directly by Mr. Armstrong. We have had, collectively, thousands of hours of experience in meetings with Mr. Armstrong and the other leaders in God’s Work over a period of decades. We knew Mr. Armstrong, and we knew what he wanted for the Work. We deeply respect what Christ did through Mr. Armstrong and do not in any way intend to change—and will not change—any of the basic truths Christ revealed through him, such as the Sabbath, Holy Days, etc. Sadly, there are some former Worldwide members and ministers who, in order to advance their own particular agendas, have tried to portray a “different” Mr. Armstrong than the real one.

Sitting for thousands of hours in meetings does not make one a leader.  Worshiping the words of HWA does not make you a leader either.

We are grateful to have had a Council that has included a significant number of men who directly knew better than these self-appointed critics!

 Take that you snot-nosed buffoons at Continuing Church of God and Restored Church of God!

Warren Zehrung: Strong Youth of Israelite Nations Will Form A New Country After Release From Slave Labor Camps

Zehrung runs one of the many groups that broke off of Global Church of God when Rod Meredith took all of its money and ran leaving Raymond McNair up the creek.  Global's implosion was just like most of the other COG implosions.  Greedy self-serving men bent on having their own following and money making empire.  These men always knew more about God, the Bible and "truth'" than the ones in charge they were splitting from.  Each one claimed the other was now apostate and they alone were "preserving the truth once delivered."

Zehrung runs a small little sect out of Little Rock Arkansas called The Sabbath Church of God.  He also has a radio program.  No shock there. What legitimate holder of the truth can get by without a radio program? If Herb did it, so should I!

In one of his articles from Countdown To The Return of Jesus Christ, he has this to say:

We are given an example in the Old Testament of a people who were spared from annihilation when a terrible destruction came upon all Israel because of the abominations of the nation.  “The Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.”  (Ezekiel 9:4)

True believers will be spared from WWIII, most likely in Petra.  It's going to be a messy place when all of the hundreds of competing COG's all show up there and start claiming they are in charge.

The mark, or sealing signature, on the forehead of those who were mourning and weeping over the idolatrous conduct of the nation was reminiscent of the blood on the doorposts and lintel of the homes of those who were safe and out of danger when the death-angel passed over the Children of Israel.  The sealing on their foreheads afforded them protection – and their lives were spared.

I have never yet seen a single COG member or group "weep and mourn" for the nation/s.  I have never seen them in fervent prayer asking for God to forgive the nation/s.  I have never seen them asking God to spare the nations/s as long as there was 10 righteous to be found.  Nothing.  All we do hear is spitting and shouting that death, damnation and doom are soon coming.  They pound the pulpit, scream and bellow about all the vile things they want to see happen to this country and others   Its concentration camps, meat hooks, slavery, invading Germans, Chinese, Muslims, or the latest enemy. I have never seen Dave Pack, Rod Meredith, Gerald Flurry or any other COG minister ever humble themselves as they prayed for, mourned for, or weeped for their country.  Instead their eyes glaze in orgasmic delight as they preach death and destruction. They want to see it happen!

Of course only TRUE Church of God members will be protected.  Of the hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups out there, which one is true?  Warren's group?  Pack's? Flurry's?

When the trumpet plagues come upon the entire earth, the faithful converted saints will be protected by God because they will have already been sealed in their foreheads....But how will a physical remnant of Israel survive the tribulation to live-over into the world tomorrow?

They want to see all the young men and women carried off to slave labor camps in Germany - as Rod Meredith believes, to Muslim nations as Thiel believes or to China as other COG ministers believe.  Before we know it WWIV will break out as nations start fighting over who gets all the prisoners of war.

The survivors will be the physical remnant of Jacob/Israel.  They will mostly be strong young men and women who had been carried into the captivity of slave labor camps of enemy nations.  “It shall come to pass in that day that the remnant of Israel, and such as have escaped of the house of Jacob [USA, England, etc.], will never again depend on him who defeated them, but will depend on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.  The remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the Mighty God.  For though your people, O Israel [USA and the UK etc.], be as the sand of the sea, [only] a remnant of them will return; the destruction decreed [The USA and UK are to be utterly destroyed) shall overflow with righteousness.”  (Isaiah 10:20-22)

How and when will this emphasized physical remnant be sealed so that they may be afforded protection from the destruction which will come upon all the earth?  Perhaps we are given a clue, if not the answer, in Revelation Chapter 7.  “Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed [mark of preservation] the [slaves] of our God in their foreheads.  And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the Children of Israel.”  (Revelation 7:3-4)

Are you among the select few in the Church of God who will be sealed?  God apparently does not give a rats ass about the Innocent little children or elderly he is about to fry. His only concern is abut a little group of Church of God members in Petra.



In order to support their malarkey they have to fall back on British Israelism as their foundational belief.  They are more special than any other nation on earth. God cares more for them because they speak English than he does the Chinese, the Hindu's, the Buddhists, and the so-called Christians of Thieldumb.

The tribes of the Children of Israel are today’s physical citizens of the English speaking nations.  “Sealed,” in the previous verse means that a select number of people will be protected during the tribulation, as they were in Ezekiel’s day, because they worshipped the true God. When our children, the tribes of the Children of Israel, see the destruction of the world taking place, they will sigh, cry, mourn and weep for the abominations that are in the land.

Only a small remnant will be preserved alive - then Zehrung says they will have died.  This is part of the reason Armstrongite scholarship is so foolish.  Every single minister interprets scripture according to how he wants it to work.

When we study the chronology of events surrounding those who have washed their robes, and those who have been protected, we can see that a physical remnant is preserved alive at the last possible moment.   “And I said unto Him, Sir, thou know. And He said to me, these are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”  (Revelation 7:14) These saints referred to in this verse have died in the persecution of the tribulation, having been previously sealed with God’s Spirit of promise.

All the young people sent off to slave labor camps in into German households as Meredith believes, will return to the US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, England, and South Africa where they will build new nations. Just how they do that is not mentioned and is just as illogical as British Israelism  is as a belief.

There will be a new nation, made up of our children, gathered to Palestine to once again grow into a glorious People of the Lord.  “Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed [children] from the East, and gather thee from the West;  I will say to the North, Give up; and to the South, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for My Glory.”  (Isaiah 43:5-7)

COG Member Seeking $100 Billion In Donations From Gullible COG Members To Help Resurrect Pharaoh's Army

Just when I thought Armstrongism could not get any sillier along comes an email today from a reader.  Apparently the guy below sent this letter out  earlier this year trying to get COG members to sign on to his project.

If any logical and scientifically minded man or woman had ever made such a discovery he/she would NOT be keeping it silent.  It would be all over National Geographic, Archeology Today, Christianity Today, and lots of other magazines.  Funding would be in coming from all directions.  

The problem lies in that this is ANOTHER COG money making scheme dreamed up to con already fleeced members out of yet more money. You will notice one of the first things he mentions is that huge dividends will come to those donating to him, it will "...fatten your wallet..."  

This is similar to a woman named Doris Wells in Pasadena who fleeced hundreds of thousands of dollars out of Pasadena area members, many of them elderly.  She talked a good talk and stole money to keep her and her son well taken care of.

If the "Alliance" listed below was a legitimate organization and was being run legitimately, there would be web sites up, magazine articles, etc., yet not a thing exists anywhere on-line about it.

So go ahead brethren, send in your hard earned money to fund yet another money mooching unemployed COG male who has never held a long term job in his COG history.  That's the track record of these moochers.  Get members to take care of them while they do "biblical research."  Hardly a single one of these con-artists  have ever held full time jobs out in the "world." 

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