Bob Thiel Is None Too Happy With Doug Winnail

The non-ordained self-appointed false prophet was none too happy when he read on here Friday afternoon that Doug Winnail slapped him really good the other day.

Thiel writes:

05/03/13 p.m. It has been reported that LCG's Dr. D. Winnail sent out the following and, supposedly, that certain negative aspects of this writing were intended to be directed towards me and the Continuing Church of God (CCOG):

Irrespective of who might have been meant (and since CCOG has the biggest known work of a group that has such a high percentage of "stay-at-home" people, it is not unreasonable to consider that CCOG was a group this was targeted towards),

The biggest "work" of-stay-at home members???????????  Bob, Bob, Bob, your delusions of grandeur are getting the best of you.  You have no work.  You have the worst videos in the ENTIRE history of the Church of God.  You have become a laughing stock on YouTube.  Most of the viewers you are receiving are being directed there by this blog.  You could at least thank me for that!

The non-ordained false prophet has to resorts to a typical HWA comparison:

Like CCOG, the late Herbert W. Armstrong also started out with very few actual congregations, but mainly had a "stay-at-home" church that was served through the technology of the time (that is part of why he called it the Radio Church of God). He had the faith to believe and do the work anyway, despite CG7 being much larger than his group at the time. Surely, various ones have not forgotten that aspect and pattern of COG history.

Now, in the 21st century, I have tried to demonstrate a similar pattern to those with ears to hear (Matthew 11:15; 13:8-9)--we in the CCOG have already demonstrated sufficient magnitude to get the gospel to the world as a witness (Matthew 24:14). We are having significant impact on this God-given mission.

If you really think you are having a big impact with YouTube media in the 21st century you really are bonkers.

Perhaps this would be a good time to mention that the Continuing Church of God has reached millions of people in over 210 countries and territories in the past four months through the internet, radio, personal contact, and the written word.

Bob, once again you are using visions of grandeur to cloud your thinking.  Just because people from 210 countries have clicked on your site does not mean you have made a witness to them.  This blog has reached 200 countries around the world.  It is an easy thing to do.  Do I think I have reached multiple millions of pople as a result?  Not at all.  No more than you have.

Then Bob slaps Doug back with a zinger:

Integrity counts (see also Why Bob Thiel Left the Living Church of God), and I believe that integrity, love, and faith are more important than current size (though I expect, over time, major changes in size of CCOG). It appears that it will be the Continuing Church of God that will lead the final phase of the work, and that this leading has already begun.

Apparently LCG has no integrity as a church nor do the men who are in charge.  Then the visions of grandeur take over and again and Thiel thinks he is doing the final phase of the work.

Dave Pack: I Have Taught Prophecy More Extensively and Correctly Than ANY Other COG Pastor Ever Has

God's most perfect humble creation is back boasting about his magnificence.  Can there be any man on this earth that is as brilliant and magnificent as Dave Pack?  Can perfection be this glorious and tall?

I have taught prophecy ­extensively—­and ­correctly!—the truth of established understanding—­for over 40 years, probably much, much more than ANY other pastor during this same period. I wanted people to know what lies ahead. So I taught very thorough ­class-­like workshops in every one of my Worldwide Church of God pastorates, covering all the basics and more, verse-by-verse through Daniel and Revelation, with a great many passages included from other ­books. (Here is but a partial list of what I have covered in sermons.)

PCG Ministers Are Gifts From Christ To Help Perfect You

Did you know that Philadelphia Church of God ministers are gifts from Jesus Christ to the members?  This is especially true when your marriage is having problems.  You should be going to the ministry for counseling.  The ministry is there to perfect you.

Seek counsel from God’s ministry.
We certainly need to take our family problems and concerns to God in prayer. But if you ask God for help, don’t overlook the fact that He may want to answer you through one of His ministers.

The ministry is a gift from Christ to help perfect you and build up the Church (Ephesians 4:11-16). Use that gift! Failing to do so can provide problems with the nourishment they need to grow. “Where no counsel is, the people fall,” Proverbs 11:14 warns.

Yeah right.  As if any member of the PCG needs to go in and counsel with an untrained twit that is 20 years younger than they are. Not a single "minister" has ever had REAL training in counseling through a licensed program.  PCG's training methods consist of Gerald laying down the law and the stooges enforcing it. 

Why would a PCG member go the minister anyway considering the track record the PCG has in destroying families, marriages and lives!

Don’t fear asking for help. We all tend to harbor pride that makes us reluctant to approach the ministry. We don’t want to “admit failure.” Men in particular can resist wanting to reveal anything that looks like a mistake. Naturally we don’t want our sins to be discovered (John 3:19-20).

Stamp out that pride. “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper,” says Proverbs 28:13. That issue may well need the light of exposure if it is to have a chance of being overcome. Simply being “thought well of” isn’t worth not taking action.

Members should be afraid to ask for help!  The ministry in the PCG holds peoples counseling sessions and the information shared against them whenever is expedient for PCG's purpose.

Men especially had better beware what they share.  If they have any aspirations for moving up and being used in the church; that depends on what they share.  If the man can't keep his household in line how will he rule a church?

PCG families have been torn asunder by Gerald Flurry's asinine laws and rules.  Children are leaving the cult in droves, marriages are crumbling, women are not being submissive, which all result in a lack of faith which is causing the huge drop in income.

It's not just a "few" members, it is a LOT!  If you do not rectify the situation NOW you will Not make it into the Kingdom and will be dead for all eternity.

“Now please! Please, dear brethren, heed this! Many of you are not living the kind of family life that is preparing you for God’s Kingdom. And if you don’t repent, and reorder your whole family life, you simply won’t make it into the Kingdom! I mean that! It is life and death for all eternity!”

If your family is having trouble, don’t put on a front with the ministers of Christ. God already knows the problem anyway (Psalm 69:5). God’s ministers aren’t going to judge, condemn, gloat or belittle. They are only there to help. They know that every one of us still has human nature we are trying to overcome. Their patience and understanding will surprise you.

So once again you the miserable weak brethren cannot get things right. You never will be able to measure up to the lofty standards that Gerald has set for you.  God's righteous perfect ministers have attained that glory in order to train you up from your wickedness.