Friday, October 11, 2013

David C Pack: COG Members Will Have A Double Self Examination Prior To Passover - For Their Sins and Whether They Should Join My Church




Israel left Egypt on the first Holy Day after the Night to Be Much Observed. Haggai’s name (“My [God’s] Feast”) now takes on more meaning as relating to the spring Holy Day season—NOT the Feast of Tabernacles, as we previously thought. The parallel of Israel’s departure from ancient Egypt in spring is the THIRD proof of God’s Plan for a springtime fulfillment.

The FOURTH proof that God has the spring in mind is that twice in Haggai He commands His people to “Consider your ways.” This perfectly parallels the annual period of self-examination that every Christian is to carry out prior to Passover. It makes complete sense that God would be telling His people to “consider” their lives and conduct during the time leading up to Passover. Different from physical Israel leaving literal Egypt on the first day of Unleavened Bread, it appears that God’s people (spiritual Israel) may leave spiritual Egypt (the splinters, who are part of the Egypt of this world) before the Passover by some short period. We will learn at the time of fulfillment the exact number of days before Passover that God has in mind.

David C Pack; Will I Be Betrayed Like Jesus For 30 Pieces of Silver?


The chief narcissist writes:

The seventh and final date that God lists is found in Zechariah 7:1—and is about 21 months later, nine months into Darius’ fourth year of reign. It spans the rest of the book through Christ’s Coming and into the Millennium. Of course, these eight amazing prophetic chapters contain the crucial chapter 11 that speaks so powerfully to how God plans to reunify His flock. A SECOND proof (or indicator) that the prophecy is speaking in a springtime context is that the betrayal of Christ for 30 pieces of silver is found smack in the middle of chapter 11. Not a huge point of and by itself, verses 12-13 of Zechariah 11 certainly fit a time just before the Passover—when Judas betrayed Christ. I do not know if any kind of modern betrayal within God’s Church will form a parallel. No one could. We will see.

David C Pack: Will The Great COG Reunification Happen On April 1?


Dave writes:

The next four dates are all mentioned in Haggai, and are according to the civil Persian calendar based on Darius’ reign. The reader will have to recall all that has been explained about the crucial meanings of each of these dates. For now, we are merely clarifying when they would be in our calendar—the general time of year that God had in mind.

Haggai 1:1 records the third overall date—the first day of the sixth month. This would be early March our time.

The fourth date is in Haggai 1:15—the 24th day of the sixth month. It describes the people coming to work in God’s House. Again, this would be about April 1 in our calendar.

The fifth date is in Haggai 2:1—the 21st day of the seventh month—and would be late in April. We originally thought this was the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles, but it would be more like right after Passover.

The sixth date is in Haggai 2:10—the 24th day of the ninth month—and continues through Haggai 2. This would be the equivalent of late July.

How convenient.  The great reunification is an April Fool's joke!

David C Pack: The Great Church of God Reunification Will Happen Pre-Passover


David C Pack:  I was such a stupid idiot to assume the date was late summer/early fall.


The Jews began building Zerubbabel’s Temple one-and-a-half years into Darius’ reign, in the spring of 519 BC on the 24th day of the sixth month—about April 1 in our calendar. Further proof is that EVERY biblical and historical source states that it took four years to build this Temple. No one disputes this. ALL these sources recognize that the work of building was completed in early March 515 BC—or what would be five-and-a-half years into Darius’ reign. This is important. Notice what the book of Ezra records: “The elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished it [the temple], according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia. And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king” (6:14-15). The third of Adar would generally correspond with our early March.

This means the temple in Haggai 1:1 is referencing an event in the spring of the year, not late summer or fall. This is the FIRST proof that the prophecy applies to the spring, not the fall. This does not mean we know the exact timing of the prophecy’s fulfillment—either the exact day (or the year) in the spring. But there are THREE more powerful proofs/indicators that the prophecy is fulfilled in the spring not the fall. These immediately “sprang out of the woodwork” the moment we realized the season that God had in mind to fulfill Haggai—PRE-PASSOVER.

David C Pack: I was Wrong Because I Used The The Damned Persian Calendar


Unable to admit a mistake, Dave resorts to blaming everyone else but himself.  Besides, God used the Persian calendar to HIDE the truth.  It is all code!  Of course, you know who, can only crack that code.



Originally we took the “sixth month” to be the sixth month of God’s sacred calendar, which is Elul. This was wrong. Upon closer examination, it became clear that the reference to the “sixth month” is simply to the sixth month and second year of King Darius’ reign from when it started. This date is according to the civil, lunar Persian calendar! God did not once mention the sacred calendar through Haggai. He does in Zechariah—but not Haggai. He simply refers to the second year within Darius’ reign. PERIOD! I (we) assumed that what He states in Zechariah applied to Haggai. In retrospect, it is obvious that God used HIS calendar for Zechariah and the PERSIAN calendar in Haggai to keep the prophecy hidden in code—harder to be understood before its time to be revealed had come. We missed this. Anyone can read the two books and see that one contains dates of the month that apply to God’s calendar and one does not. We made a connection that did not exist.

A series of clues point to Haggai 1:1 being in the SPRING of the year, NOT the fall. Let’s see.
To find the second year of Darius’ reign, we must look at when his reign began. Historians agree that Darius’ reign began in late September-early October 521 BC. Many sources could be included that say this. For instance, the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (widely seen as the most reputable edition) records that Darius came to office in October, 521 BC—and probably on the 10th of Tishri, or the Day of Atonement that year (October 10).