Living Church of God/Scarborough Lawsuit: The Quandry Supboened Members and Ministers Are In

Now that members and ministers in the Living Church of God have bern subpoenaed to testify in the Scarborough lawsuit, there is a quandary that members and ministers are having to face.

These members and ministers have to testify, under oath, the truth about what they saw happen.  They are faced with a dilemma that none of them are comfortable with.  If they tell the truth, they have to tell how despicable Rod McNair and Rod Meredith have been towards the Scarborough's, and in doing that they face the possible expulsion from the church and being kicked out of the ministry for betraying  Meredith.

On the other hand, if they lie, then they will be wracked with guilt knowing that they are covering up for the abusers and that they have broken the law, both biblically and nationally.  However, there are many in the Church of God who believe that "justified lying" is ok.  Church members did this during the court receivership in Pasadena when the State of California smacked the church with a lawsuit on misuse of funds.

It's an even bigger dilemma for ministers.  If you testify and tell the truth, then the chances are high you will be terminated when the Scarborough's win the lawsuit.  Rod Meredith will never forget those that stabbed him in the back.  The church will keep records on who testifies and it will be used as a weapon against them.  WCG did this to members in the State of California lawsuit.  Those who supported the claimants and those who testified with the truth, were terminated and disfellowshipped.

There will be a big purge after this is all over.  Win or loose, those that testify will face repercussions.

Vic Kubik's LifeNets Church of God

Many in UCG have always felt large discomfort with the blurring of the lines of UCG with LifeNets, the pet "ministry" of Vic Kubik.  Many question the man running two organizations that are suppose to be separate, but are they really?  LifeNets presents itself as a "humanitarian organization" to woo in the public while failing to disclose it is a Church of God related tool to encourage people to come over to the dark side.  Is Kubik and UCG too embarrassed to to say UCG is behind it and that it is a recruitment tool for  its "god", much like HWA started Ambassador Foundation because he was too embarrassed to say he represented the Worldwide Church of God?  While it has undeniably done some good, its motives are questionable.

See more here: LifeNets

Those in Australia need to know (as do those in South Africa and most international locations) that their ‘church’ is not really an extension of the UCG in the USA — instead they are what Cincinnati calls the “LifeNets” churches –they are not funded by UCG any longer, have to be self-sufficient, and Kubik travels to them on LifeNets funds, not UCG money. This is why the moment the “airy” sermon is over, Kubik launches into a 45-minute LifeNets presentation to the congregation. Legally he has to do this because he is on LifeNets money which is being audited. The members are not in a Church, they are just laborers in a commercial LifeNets exercise, even thought they don’t know it. Council members who did not want Kubik as president (took the most re-balloting ever ) finally acquiesced over the information that it would save UCG money since Kubik was the only only one who could travel internationally on another budget (namely his private Corporation Sole LifeNets, which has made him the wealthiest Council member, and which he built in competition with the Good Works program, since that one wasn’t going to earn him anything personally). 

And yes, we are all supposed to give up our various ‘cultural backgrounds’ to put on the culture of Christ, but this man Kubik still can’t disconnect himself from a Ukrainian village he has never really lived in, now bending the truth to accommodate a small Pentecostal and trinitarian group there that clearly for over 20 years has shown no interest in joining with UCG. But,like the populism of Brexit and Trump, it’s beginning to all blow up: we have what we call the “parking lot church” in our congregation — it’s about what is said when everyone goes to their cars so the minister can’t hear them, and it’s about 50% of the congregation now that meets this way — outside. The moment someone stands up with some integrity and calls UCG out on all of this, the following is in place and ready to move.

Living Church of God: Are Twiggy Doctrines Messing With The Minds of LCG Members?

Twiggy seems to be messing with LCG doctrines.

Doug Winnail writes:

Truly focused Christians don’t have time to get sidetracked on material pursuits, private agenda or twiggy doctrinal ideas (2 Timothy 2:14-18). They don’t let interpersonal differences hinder their spiritual growth (Romans 12:14-18) or their goal of developing the mind of Christ (Philippians 2:5-11). Real Christians focus on what is good and positive and right and true - they don’t listen to rumors and they don’t dwell on complaints (Philippians 4:8). June 30

In other words Dear Brethren...don't concern yourself with the Scarborough's suing the church or the fact that they subpoenaed over 200 of us, that's not important.  Nor are all those pesky twiggy doctrines floating around that James Malm and Bob Thiel keep declaring need to be kept.

As usual, the entire reason for the posting was the fact that all the problems in LCG are the result of members sticking their noses into things that don't concern them.  The hierarchy of the LCG is not accountable to the membership.

Dingy Wade Cox and Tim Kitchen Believe McDonalds Is Using Baby Meat

The Church of God has always been fertile ground for the lunatic fringe to promote their pet conspiracy theories.  People naively believe all of the conspiracies because everything is a Jesuit, Masonic, Bilderberger or Illuminati conspiracy to take over the world.  This is Satan's plan after all, isn't it? So its no wonder that the space cadet's in the church invent scary scenarios or outlandish claims and promote them as truth  There is always a COG true believer out there that will fall for their baloney.

Both of these theologically bankrupt men are apparently not smart enough to know that the original story that started this entire chain of lies was a story posted on Huzlers, a site that allows users to "create your own news prank and trick your friends by sharing it."

But I guess its too much trouble to do a three minute search of the Internet and discover the back story.  Much like these men can't use the Internet to discover the back story of Armstrongism. Instead they both choose to perpetuate lies and unfortunately there are still dumb people out there that believe them.

The Battling Church of God Archives Sites

Ever since the Worldwide Church of God imploded into hundreds and hundreds of splinter groups, there has been one failed attempt after another to "get back on track." There are the groups and web sites that claim to only follow those church teachings prior to 1986. There are others that claim the truth only exists prior to 1974.  Others harken back to the time before Loma Armstrong's death in 1967.  It was all a conspiracy of the liberals and Satan to thwart God from getting his message across to the true believers. Satan has always proven to be more powerful than God, at least in the COG realm.

Now that Satan succeeded and the church has become irrelevant in the eyes of the world and most church members, there are those that still struggle to preserve the "truth once restored." Just like the hundreds and hundreds of splinter COG's out there claiming they are the only true church, now we have battling Herbert Armstrong archive sites.  One of them has come out swinging, damning all the others as liberal tools of Satan.

The heretical sites are

The HWA Library:

The  Archive Library of Works by Herbert W. Armstrong - God's End Time Elijah 

The Herbert Armstrong Searchable Library

The Church of God Faithful Flock Home School Association

The Giving and Sharing site:

The Reluctant Messenger

The Church of God Hold Fast To All Things

The Biblical Truth site:

Now we have the ONLY TRUE COG archive site:

The Herbert Armstrong TV Archives

The HWA TV Archives claims it is the ONLY true archives on the Internet today that harkens back to the time before the liberals and Satan took over.  They cover everything prior to 1967.

"Booklets that BUILT the Work during the 1950s and up to about 1967, which were either "killed," or, like the U.S. in Prophecy booklet, greatly reduced and the LIFE cut out of it - during a conspiracy to abolish everything I had ever written and substitute new LIBERAL doctrines following the "STP" [Systematic Theology Project] - all those booklets are being brought back into print. The TRUTH of God, not a watered-down liberal and secular teaching, is once again going out IN POWER! "

During the years between 1967 and 1977, Satan the Devil was hard at work using Garner Ted Armstrong, and other liberal ministers to SUPPRESS, destroy, or replace Christ's true doctrines as they were taught by Christ's chosen apostle Herbert W Armstrong. It was because they DID NOT BELIEVE. They were essentially, NON-BELIEVERS! And do you realize that Satan works through NON-BELIEF?

Have you considered HOW Satan was effective? And have you considered how he got the job done?

And concerning our responsibility, when presenting the materials of God's apostle and God's Church: Should we promote materials that were published by Garner Ted and by other LIBERAL ministers that Satan has been using against God's true Church?

We've considered the materials published in the years between 1967 and 1977 for historical evidence, and proof of what happened, how Satan took the Church off track.
There are some very good articles found during those years, but what we are finding is that they always contained a liberal element that just spoiled it. The rottenness was evident.

The Archives crew thinks that it took the literal resurrection of Herbert Armstrong to clean the church up and set it all back on track.

And so we have asked ourselves, and have taken it to God in prayer and fasting, about whether or not we should promote material from GTA and other LIBERAL ministers, and it has been ASTOUNDING NO! 

Jesus Christ upon resurrecting Herbert W Armstrong from total heart failure in 1977. began throwing out the dross and those attached who wouldn't allow Christ to clean them up. He guided Herbert Armstrong to go back and update all of the books that Satan was trying to get rid of, and with it Christ added new revelation, and much more TRUTH was restored during this time. The Bible says "All things shall be restored" through the end time Elijah. 

So whatever confusion Satan had caused in the 1970's, through GTA and the LIBERAL ministers, was cleaned up, and Christ's understanding, mind and Christ's doctrines once again was in the forefront in God's true Church! It was placed back on the tracks! 

Now there is only one true archive site and has the ONLY truth!  All of the others are run by apostate liberal Satan loving false Christians.

THIS WEBSITE( wwcg-archives.com) IS THE ONLY WEBSITE THAT DIRECTS YOU TO CHRIST THROUGH HIS CHOSEN APOSTLE.  

Other websites, direct you to splinter groups, dissenters, groups that are in DISAGREEMENT with Christ and His chosen apostle. If you check, you will find this to be absolutely true. 

One website, has incorporated itself, and directs people to fellowship with them online. They promote Garner Ted Armstrong, and those liberal elements of the 1970's that took the Church of track. And they rob God of His tithes by collecting them from sincere people, although they are not ordained to collect such. They are not ministers. Now some others are ministers, but not of Christ. Christ is not blind to any of it brethren.

Just as the hundreds of splinter groups cant get along, now the internet sites are fighting over who has the true booklets and articles now.

The entire legacy of Herbert Armstrong has become one complete farce. From abusive tyrants like Meredith, Pack and Flurry, the self-appointed false prophets, Judaizers and liars like Thiel and Malm, to the pseudo-liberals in UCG. The Wienlands, the Flurry's and Pack are impotent little men who will never garner any large followings.  Meredith has proven to be an abusive tyrant and abject failure in everything he has touched.

Its a complete mess.

It will never be unified again.

No apostle or prophet is coming in to save it.

No two witnesses will arise from it.

It will never be great again.

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