Saturday, October 15, 2022

Dave Pack Fails With Another Prediction As He Becomes More Bizarre, Odd, And Strange


 

David C. Pack’s Feast Failathon Continues

 

Shortly after yesterday’s article was published, the predicted moonwalking twisteroo went up in Member Services. Since “rushing” is not the wisest mode to live in, I opted to sit on this until the morning.

 

Trying to figure out what is being said is like reading a verbal math problem. All they needed to do was distribute the highlighted portion. Instead, they presented this needlessly bloated Pathetic Update.

 

Friday, October 14, 2022

True to pattern, the passing of hours has clarified the picture. A simple question presented itself: When God says the saints go through 10 days of tribulation, does He really mean 10.5? The obvious answer suddenly became impossible to dismiss! As soon as this was understood, a flood of supporting verses and proofs came clear. In effect, our watch was half-a-day off—actually starting Jerusalem dawn rather than dusk. This later arrival means God can spend time with the saints for a short period on the Sabbath before the 10 days begin. Put plainly, the window opens dawn Jerusalem time on the Sabbath. Again, each Feast site should do their own math. Continue to enjoy the Feast to the fullest in the little time we have left!

 

 

The Coffee Kid, Meat Shield (sans wife), and David C. Pack are circling the drain regarding viable ideas for the timing of the return of Jesus Christ. Extending failure for another twelve hours only bought them twelve hours. And that time is already spent.

 

Even the official Dave Whisperer for The Restored Church of Another god struggles to make sense of this confusing mess. I did not study biblical hieroglyphics in high school, but I will give it a shot.

 

I will not lie to you. This is going to hurt.

 

The new "watch" is set to start 10-days before Cheshvan 1 (October 26). That means October 16, which is Tishrei 21. Because this is all according to Jerusalem time, you must subtract 7 hours to get to Eastern time. On top of that, the Hebrew calendar reckons a day beginning at sunset the night before. This means Cheshvan 1 begins 7 hours before sunset here on October 25. Ten days before that is October 15, which is today, which is a Sabbath. Whew.

 

How is that for simplicity in Christ? ;)

 

Hopefully, none of you actually read all of that. It is a confusing mess because that is the kind of mind that occupies David C. Pack and the enablers at Headquarters who “agree” with the perpetual nonsense.

 

The bottom line is that the 10-day Kingdom that “God never intended” begins today at 11:07 AM!

 

Except, it didn’t. David C. Pack fell flat on his face again this morning, but the men around him will cast themselves on the ground before him so he will not be bruised by the fall. What happened to suffering kicking the learning mechanism into gear? Maybe that is for the lay members only.

 

Before this article was finished, the deadline had already failed. Do you see why I opted to not lose any sleep over this? My morning routine has become to have a cup of coffee while David C. Pack fails.

 

David C. Pack does not teach the prophetic truths of God.

 

That is not an opinion. That is a fact of history.

 

New reports of folks planning to leave RCG after the Feast are coming in. Dawn Blue and I would be interested in hearing your story when you are ready to talk. A growing network of former members offers support for those who leave or are contemplating leaving. You are not alone.

 

As a reminder from a mere week ago, re-listen to Meat Shield speak with sure confidence about what did NOT happen this week.



Shame on you, Andy. Shame on you. Take your awesome wife and get out. Steak dinner. My treat.

 

 

A friend who left Headquarters in August said that reading “Is ‘That Prophet’ Alive Today? ­– The Rise of False Prophets" was beneficial to her when she escaped RCG.

 

These words were written by David C. Pack and are found on Page 51.

 

Prolific Revelations

A less familiar characteristic of false prophets, and this is related to the last two sections, is that they are often extremely prolific in claiming new revelations from God. True prophets always speak plain, simple truth, delivered without frills!

 

Typically, false prophets claim that they are getting “more and more insight.” They often work late at night (recall that Saul raged all night), while they produce things that are increasingly bizarre, odd and strange.They also claim, and I have seen this several times in my 30-plus-year ministry, that the new understanding they are receiving is coming “faster than they can record it.” This makes no sense if such understanding or supposednew insight were coming from God. If God wants to send a message, why would He give it faster than the prophet could receive it? As a man yields himself to the demon manipulating him, in fact, he does become

consumed with his messages and the need to deliver them. The God of peace would never rev His servants to fever pitch. The Bible does not record such a pattern.

 

I have dealt with any number of demon-possessed people. It is these spirits who create a frenetic, rushed, frantic mindset in those they are vexing or controlling. Remember—God’s Spirit reflects “power, love and a sound mind” (II Tim. 1:7). When what is being said, and/or a person’s actions, are continually unsound, it is not coming from God! “Revelations” often occur late at night because spirits know that the mind of a sleep-deprived person grows weaker and more open to outside influence! I have seen this pattern far too often!

 

Anyone who would like a PDF of this book can click the link HERE to download it.



Here are recent comments from a “sound mind” that counter what brethren are hearing and reading during the Feast of Tabernacles in RCG.

 

Part 390 – August 27, 2022

@ 43:35 I’m not commissioned to give you the day. I’m commissioned to tell you it’s close. 

 

Part 393 – September 17, 2022

@ 10:52  I’ve not been to bed before 1:30. I don’t think, this whole week.

 

@ 08:47 If you asked me Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I’d tell ya it’s a week. If you ask me Tuesday, Thursday, or Saturday, I'd tell ya it's ten days. If you ask me on Sunday, I'd say, "I'm not sure." It was almost like that, and the men around me could never pin it down, either.

 

@ 35:08 So, we were not looking for a 10-day Kingdom or a 15-day Kingdom or a one-month Kingdom, or a two-and-half-month Kingdom. We were looking for a one-week Kingdom.

 

Part 395* (Special Comments) – September 17, 2022

@ 02:39 And as I was sitting, and eventually it got toward 2 o'clock, and I was pondering this…

 

@ 12:55 But fortunately, I figured this out late last night.

 

@ 11:15 So, it wouldn't turn on sundown or dusk in Jerusalem. It would have to be some later place.

 

A sound mind, indeed.

 

 

To Pastor General and Professional Blasphemer David C. Pack:

 

When you get back from Rogers, if you would like to discuss this face-to-face, I would be happy to come to Headquarters to meet with you. That way, you can get everything off your chest rather than being a whiny little bitch boohooing about me to people at the Feast.

 

I know you will not do that. But I still offer because I am not afraid of you. You are a false prophet, a false apostle, and you handle the word of God deceitfully. Repent before it is too late.

 

One compliment from you was that you did not refer to me as a liar. A devil—yes. A liar—no. Even you validated my credibility. Thanks, man.

 

Stop your Feast Failathon.

 

Let God judge between you and me.


Marc Cebrian


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Friday, October 14, 2022

RCG Feast Follies



RCG Feast Follies

 

The Feast of Tabernacles for The Restored Church of God has been refreshingly quiet on the David C. Pack speaking front. He spoke four times in the past, but so far, only once this year. Even a false prophet needs a little vacay once in a while.

 

The "watch day-by-day" sentiment was getting old, so they decided to breathe new life into the running joke by posting this in Member Services yesterday:

 

We are about to reach what becomes the final day we long wondered if we would back into--where the Church knows the day. Apparently the Kingdom was going to start on a Sabbath after all. Our watch is for about 12.5 hours from dusk to dawn Jerusalem time. Calculate accordingly. Also as we long suspected, the Kingdom of God is seven days (Sabbath dawn to Sabbath dawn) and 3.5 more of great tribulation before the Day of Christ. As best we understand, this is the last opportunity for 2022.

 

 

This is it. The end of the road. The long struggle to get to the correct Kingdom arrival date has been reached. 

 

Sunset in Jerusalem today begins at 6:08 PM.

 

The 12.5 hours of watching starts today at 11:08 AM Eastern, 8:08 AM Western.

 

Sunrise in Jerusalem on Saturday begins at 6:42 AM.

 

The 12.5 hours of watching ends tonight at 11:42 PM Eastern, 8:42 PM Western.

 

Everyone can feel certain because the text is certain. This is very matter-of-fact wording:

 

“We are about to reach what becomes…”

“Apparently the Kingdom was going to start on a Sabbath after all.”

“Also as we long suspected, the Kingdom of God is seven days…”

 

Those sentences are constructed with a surety found when documenting history even though the David C. Pack 12.5 Hour Failathon has already begun. There will be more moonwalking before the day is over. What an exciting time in prophecy.

 

Note the 7 days and the 3.5 days mentioned as We revisit Part 394.

 

Part 394 – September 24, 2022

@ 07:04 …God never intended 10 days, or 7 days, or 3.5 days, or any days to precede the Feast of Trumpets.He’s going to do everything in that one day of so many names.

 

It is hard to know what to write in your notes with a pencil or pen. It is probably best to not take notes at all because whatever you hear will soon change. That is an established church tradition.

 

Deep down, Dave knows he is a fraud. That "uncomfortable" feeling that strikes him after he speaks is witness to that. Even when he constructs a concrete fortress of inarguable proofs, there is always a trap door under the bed that he can slip through when disaster strikes.

 

“As best we understand…”

 

Ah. There it is. It is all an undeniable fact…as best we understand. We. We. We. All the way home. Notice how Dave could not even bring himself to assign his own name to it.

 

…this is the last opportunity for 2022.

 

Not the “last” by any stretch of the imagination.

 

The Coffee Kid, Meat Shield (sans wife), and Dave conspired to concoct this last gasp of prophetic nonsense just in time for the Sabbath. There is going to be a late-night strategy meeting when nothing happens. So much for the day of rest.

 

My educated guess as a non-prophet/non-psychic is that he will speak one more time before the Feast is over because he cannot have everyone contemplate his latest failures while boarding the airplane.

 

The Last Great Dave is on Monday. He would have to speak on Sunday if he wants everyone to hear his latest presumption circus before they formulate their resignation letters on the drive home. Look forward to Part 399 on the horizon.

 

Dennis Diehl brought up a concept in a comment on the website that I will borrow here.

 

David C. Pack believes that each failure gets him one step closer to being right.

 

Most people who succeed get past failure and approach success because they learn along the way. Dave is not learning.

 

He is not climbing stairs toward being right. He is on an escalator. Each step he takes repeats the same errors, keeping him in place. That sounds like a form of hell to me.

 

 

The desperation inside RCG is becoming more apparent.

 

One disturbing development this year at the Feast of Tabernacles is the change of policy for events. 

 

RCG is becoming PCG.

 

The Restored Church of God emulates the same Gestapo hardline tactics The Philadelphia Church of God perfected decades ago. Family members who are ex-members were ejected and disinvited from the Dinner Dance and the Not-The-Entire-Family Day.

 

This is counter to all the other years inside RCG.

 

Compromised “ministers” became enforcers, enacting policies they knew were unloving, yet did it anyway. Like a mobster given an order to whack someone they liked. They felt terrible about it but still pulled the trigger because the boss wanted it done. That is the RCG way.

 

The Chicago Heavy must have greater pull in The Restored Church of Another god than previously thought. Eject your teen from the home if they no longer want to attend. Eject anyone else from a Feast event for the same reason. 2022 will undoubtedly be "the best Feast ever."

 

And here we thought Elijah was supposed to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the children to their fathers. We will see after the Feast how well that worked out.

 

Not every problem needs to be solved with a belt, Dave.

 

Due to the constant leaking of information, maybe Dave was afraid footage of him doing the Electric Slide would go public. After all, that is what a devilish person would want to see.

 

If some families were on the fence going into the Feast, this would certainly help push them over to the side RCG did not intend. It would affect not only those who were removed but everyone who witnessed and heard about it. The Sword of the Lord was very active during this Feast.

 

Dave and Team Lockdown do not realize that by trying to plug one leaking hole in the dyke, they actually create three more.

 

This calls for another Star Wars quote.

 

Princess Leia

The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

 

If God wants the information to continue to leak out, it will leak out. If God wants the information flow to stop, it will stop. I did not start it, and I do not control it. Let God's will be done in this matter. Amen.

 

 

It is time to have a little bit of fun once again.

 

Dave sang to the “ministers” during the Feast to remind them who they really serve.



Marc Cebrain: 

Jim Franks Says Its Ok To Help People Outside the Church

 



A reader here posted this today:

Apparently, one message by Jim Franks at the Feast this year was considered really good because he said we should care and help others outside the COGs when we can. This just now occurring to them is pretty strong evidence that they have not been practicing real Christianity all these years. Earl

Imagine being a COG Leader in 2022 and not realizing it was OK to help those outside the COG whenever you can. Those who have left the church and many still in the COG's understand this and already practice it, but far too many claim that helping others is not good and takes money away from the church to spread whatever it is they claim is a gospel.

I remember when Joseph Tkach helped those outside the church that have suffered through some calamity and watched certain ordained individuals crap their self-righteous pants because he help unconverted people.

it's no owner the COG's cannot attract new members anymore.


Wednesday, October 12, 2022

Crackpot COG Prophet Wants To Know If You Are Qualifying or Disqualifying?

 


Why is it that COG ministers, particularly self-appointed ones who have no real theological education, always try and keep their members burdened down with impossible laws and expectations instead of teaching their followers to revel in grace with unabandoned joy? 

Church of God members are in a constant state of turmoil trying to do things to impress their god so that at some point in the future they might be forgiven and loved.

Because these men have placed their entire focus on shadows and laws that were designed to make the children of Israel a separate unique people at that time, they continue to live in the past burdened down by laws they can never fully keep and thus live in a constant state of wondering if God has going to abandon them.  Under the New Covenant, those expectations were accomplished by the works of the One who is greater than those laws, the very One Christians have been following for centuries in faith and absolute confidence.

This kind of theological depravity results in Bob Thiel saying things like he has written below.

Are You Qualifying or Disqualifying?
This message is a 21st century update of a message given at the Feast of Tabernacles in 1982 by the late Pastor General of the old Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong. In this sermon, Dr. Thiel goes over scriptures about the role of Christians as kings and priests in the kingdom of God, the influence and flaws of Satan, and humanities choices. He goes over promises that Jesus gave Christians as well as warnings from Jesus and the Apostle Paul about disqualifying. Dr. Thiel also gives some clues about when Jesus may return. He also discusses what humanity will do to the world and how much better the millennial kingdom of God will be.

A 17th Century theologian sums up the confidence Christians live with:

  • Therefore, in this Covenant, we do not only receive Light, but the Fullness of Light.
  • Not only Life, but the Fullness of Life, because Christ is our Life whom we receive in this Covenant.
  • Not only Strength, but the Fullness of Strength; The Lord is the Strength of my heart, and my Portion forever.
  • Not only Pardon of Sin, but Fullness of Pardon; or, the Fullest Pardon, complete Pardon.
  • Not only Righteousness, but the Fullness of Righteousness; perfect and complete Righteousness, and you are complete in him.
  • Not only Peace, but the Fullness of Peace; Peace that passes all understanding.
  • Not only Beauty, but the Fullness of Beauty; for it was perfect, * thro’ my Comeliness which I put upon thee, saith the Lord God.
  • Not only knowledge, but the Fullness of knowledge; And ye also are Full of all goodness, filled with all knowledge. The parts may be weak, yet where Christ dwells or hath taken possession of the heart, there the Soul hath a Fullness of Spiritual knowledge: Our Vessels may be full though’ but small.
  • And Not only Joy, but the Fullness of Joy; These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. Again, he saith, Ask and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full; ’tis called, unspeakable joy, and full of Glory.
  • Lastly, And not only Glory, but the Fullness of Glory; for the Fullness of the Glory of Heaven is contained in this Covenant, or the perfect and full enjoyment of God, even the Beatifical Vision.  Benjamin Keach (1640-1704)

Leave the lies of Bob Thiel and live a life free! Stop worrying about whether or not you are qualified or disqualified.