Thursday, August 8, 2013

Bob Thiel: As The World's Foremost Scientist I Say Evolution Is Illogical

Bob Thiel is well known in his own eyes as the worlds foremost authority on prophecy, end time events and Mayan gibberish, is also now weighing in as a premier scientist:

As a scientist, I have long known that proponents of evolution treat the subject more like a religious view than a scientific theory. This is somewhat also what the Ben Stein movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed revealed (see Ben Stein’s Expelled).

Which was?

Scientists who challenge too many claims associated with evolution are shunned by many academic institutions, as there is a tremendous amount of pressure at most “leading” academic institutions to squelch research that is not in support of evolution because it will affect their beliefs.  Thus many ‘accept’ evolution and act like it is a scientific fact, when instead it is an unproven model that can scientifically be rebutted at various stages.

Evolution has led to the intentional ignorance of appropriate scientific methods. It became a religion for many in the 19th century, and remains one for many today.


DennisCDiehl said...

Bob noted: (sigh) "As a scientist, I have long known that proponents of evolution treat the subject more like a religious view than a scientific theory"

That' statement is about as big a piece of bull shit from the mind of Mr. Scientist as one could get. You can't reason with stupid.

The facts of evolution of everything from the Universe, galaxies, stars, matter, elements, molecules, life and humans themselves are simply too scary for religionist minds. A book with talking serpents and jack asses, along with an earth with four corners and under a big dome where rain pours thru the windows of heaven does not inspire me scientifically or in any sense of reality. Magical thinking and events aren't provable and how can I trust who said what to whom 4500 years ago that is supposed to determine my being in the right belief or wrong one?

I don't even know exactly what my father said in 1967.

Ben Stein is another issue altogether but he'd not stand a chance against a scientist like Neil Degrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins or the late Carl Sagan and hundreds of others.

Allen C. Dexter said...

What a load of bullshit that was. There's one area where he's ever bit as much of a narcissist and ignoramus as old Herb was -- science and academic knowledge.

Head Usher said...

Yeah, I know. I used to think that way too.

But then I realized that "believing" was an irresponsible thing to do, which is why scientists and other rational people don't do it. They either "know" or else they "don't know" which is responsible either way. But "believing"?

If the scientific method included "belief" we would all be, as Neil Degrasse Tyson astutely points out, in exactly the same place as the Muslim world is today--still in the dark ages. If it weren't for petroleum, the Muslim middle east would be economically no better off than it's next door neighbor, Africa.

Religion is like a mugger, except a mugger only wants your money for no reason. Religion is also after your mind, your heart, your intellect, your life, your children's lives, your children's money...and for what good reason? How do you determine which is the better investment, the preacherman on TV (like HWA), or the devoted son of the late Nigerian Minister of Finance who just needs a little help shielding funds from a corrupt warlord? (Answer: they're both scams!!!)

So, is evolution perfect? I wouldn't say that it is. That's the problem with trying to make sure you "know" things rather than just "believe" them. But a scientist, even an evolutionary scientist, isn't trying to get you "believe" anything without evidence. Scientists invite people to be skeptical of their claims, unlike religious people. It's true that there isn't always as much evidence as you'd like there to be. Sometimes that's because the evidence has been destroyed, other times, it's because you're barking up the wrong tree. But scientific claims do not ask you to be any more certain of any proposition, including evolution than the existing evidence supports. That being said, we have a lot more evidence supporting the theory of evolution than the theory of creation (which requires a high-maintenance, antisocial agency, who is just as powerful as he is improbable. But if you thought I was referring to Yahweh, or his grandfather El, there's about 100 other creator deities out there that could just as easily fit the bill.)

Hey, if you've got evidence, Bob, and there's something you want me to "know" then that's one thing. But if you want me to just "believe," then you're in the business of conning people, whether you realize it or not.

Byker Bob said...

The ridiculousness of this, and the embarrassment are totally unnecessary. Thiel apparently doesn't believe that his God could use evolutionary processes as some of the tools of His creation activity. If he would just look around himself with an open mind, he would be able to actually observe the evolutionary process in all aspects of life. Perhaps we should take him cave diving.


RSK said...

Wait wait. Bob is a scientist now?