Tuesday, August 2, 2016

PCG: Fred Dattalo Sinks to New Low: Members to cut off contact with non-member spouses

The perverse teachings of the Philadelphia Church of God just keep getting worse and worse.  Gerald Flurry recently extended the no contact rule to all children/adults who are not part of the PCG.

Now the degenerate teachings take an even darker party.  PCG members are to cut off all contact with mates and spouses who have stopped attending PCG, even if they are "pleased to dwell" with their spouse.

Fred Dattalo is a sick man like Cal Culpepper.  Both of these "men" hail from Pasadena where they learned to treat the "common people" like dirt, which they regularly did while employed in accounting and the auditorium.

Just heard that Fred Dattalo from Canada made the announcement Sabbath that the No Contact ruling now extends to mates/spouses that have stopped attending. What happened to "if they're pleased to dwell with you?". One member got up and left during services! Why aren't more leaving? Maybe because people want to walk away from their families and they use Flurry as their reason! Sickening! Their love has Waxed cold and they are without natural affection! 

Finally a report that one person had the wherewithal to stand up and walk out!


Byker Bob said...

He (or she) should have dropped and crushed a stink bomb while walking for the door.

What do they use as scripture? Does Malachi's Message have a quote to the effect that "We ought to obey Flurry rather than God, even if it makes people commit suicide!"?

You've heard of the Ramones. All of the ministers in all of the ACOGs should be required to take the stage name "Dick" if they wish to masqueerade and pose as spiritual guides.


Black Ops Mikey said...

To the non member spouses:

Get as much as you can from alimony.

If you have the resources, sue the PCG for alienation of affection.

It's too bad the PCG can't be put to death as commanded by the Old Testament Scriptures.

Maybe Jesus will take care of that at His return and obliterate Armstrongist compounds with extreme prejudice.

If you believe in that sort of thing.

Anonymous said...

Soon, nobody will be allowed to leave, wherever petra is deemed to be!

Jim Jones

Connie Schmidt said...

My personal Ego, Id and Alter Ego are all cutting off contact from each other. It is a very confusing time!

Anonymous said...

this can't possibly be real can it? that's insane....

Anonymous said...

Why can't it? This is the same sick people that told a family to take their disabled child to the mall and abandon it there so the state could take care of it. They were wasting tithe money on the care of the child.

Anonymous said...

Call the local religious editor in Oklahoma and scream to the high heavens about cult activity in town.

Anonymous said...

What is Flurry up to? This isn't going to have a good ending. My advice to all PCG members, leave as soon as possible you leader may be another Jim Jones?!!!

Anonymous said...

I thought WCG was bad, but this is worse. I'm surprised that this splinter is still surviving. That was never the teaching when I was a part of it. But that was over 40 years ago. Talk about going to hell in a handbasket!

Anonymous said...

4.57 PM I find your accusation hard to believe. Abandoning your children in public, must surely be illegal.

Anonymous said...

They are putting thicker and higher walls and more barbed wire, to enforce their version of the 'iron curtain.'

Anonymous said...

Joey Ramone wrote,

"I Wanna Be Flurrated"

Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be Flurrated
Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be Flurrated
Just get me to the airport put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain
Oh no no no no no
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go....
Just put your kids in wheelchairs
And leave them at a mall
If their tithes are tiny
Leave 'em in Gap's bathroom stall
Where Yahweh sorts out one and all
Oh no no no no no
Don't stop at Giant Eagle
Just get me to the 'pound
Hearing Flurry's sermons
Is just the sweetest sound
Oh no no no no no
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain
I'm flippin' through the pages
Of wide margin King James
Oh no no no no no
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be Flurrated
Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-o I wanna be Flurrated
Just put me in a wheelchair and get me to the Compound
That's the only place The True Prayer Rock is found
Not to mention candelabras, or even Loma's bras
Let's turn a blind eye to all of Herb's faux pas
Flurry's got the artifacts that truly will astound
Oh no no no no no
Hurry hurry hurry before I go loco
I can't control my fingers I can't control my toes
When I'm in in The Kingdom, I'll kill all the homos
Oh no no no no no
Buy me a big six-pack
So I'll get on the track
Oh no no no no no
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be Flurrated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be Flurrated

Anonymous said...

Connie, as long as your personal Ego, Id and Alter Ego are all paying tithes to Mr. Flurry, you will be given a Position of Power in the Kingdom, where you won't even have to show your Giant Eagle card to receive amazing discounts. All you'll have to do is show your tithing record, in triplicate.

Anonymous said...

Strictly speaking, 11:37, it is. However, the ministurd in question was relying on the notion that the mentally-deficient child would not be able to identify his parents.

As for the source, it was a letter to ESN, which is reproduced below.

June 17, 2013

I was once told by a minister in PCG to "get rid of" my mentally handicapped son with cerebral palsy or don't return. He told me to put him in some facility, or if I couldn't afford that, then take him somewhere that he would not know and abandon him in the mall or somewhere that people were. He said someone would find him and put him away, and that I was to turn and not look back, and just leave him there! I guess you can imagine just about what I told them!!...

(The ministurd was later held to be the late George Witt)

Byker Bob said...

Not bad. But we can do more to develop this Ramones theme. Like, "Sheena is an Irish Folk Dancer". Or get the teenagers to chant: "Gabba gabba, He was right, hey!"

Bb (which is probably the key they sing in)

Stephen said...

Anon11:37PM, you are justified at finding it hard to believe, nevertheless, here's the link to the post about this back in 2013:

Philadelphia Church of God: Take Your Disabled Child To The Mall And Abandon Him - Let Someone Else Take Care Of Him

senior citizen said...

A lawyer should be consulted. A Church that tells members to dump children and spouses has to be doing something illegal.
This needs to be publicized far and wide.
It is a cult for certain.

Sweetblood777 said...

To all PCG members.

This is very serious. If you turn your back on your family by not providing for them, physically, spiritually, and emotionally, you have failed in your God given responsibility. You will be held in severe judgement for this if you make your wife or husband a spiritual widow or widower.

The time to act is now. Don't allow this demonic organization tear your family away from you. Fight back. Get up and leave, better yet, give them a piece of your anger as you walk out.

Anonymous said...

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Lake of Fire Church of God said...

I echo Anonymous August 2, 2016 at 7:45 PM. This Flurry practice was NEVER a teaching of the old Worldwide Church of God under his idol Herbert Armstrong. In fact, in my family's case, my father would never have become a baptized member of the Church had this bizarre teaching of non-contact with non member spouses had been practiced. My mother came into the Church in 1968 and my father almost divorced her. You can imagine how my father felt when his wife and children took off to the Feast of Tabernacles in Jekyll Island almost a thousand miles away without him.

Flurry's bizarre teaching had it been practiced in 1968 WCG would have sealed the deal for a divorce and broken up my family. Instead, my father converted about 5-6 years later, and became friends with WCG minister Keith Thomas who was my father's age and who also real world experience, not a fresh AC graduate that had answers for everything.

So, if I pretend that the WCG and its splinters are the real one and only true Church of God, Flurry's non-member non-spouse contact practice could be blocking people from becoming members of the true church as in my father's case.


Anonymous said...

Richard, I get what you are trying to say. However, PCG and its ministers will never tell a prospective member that they will be required to cut off contact with non-member family/spouse right away.

Instead, they will reel you in slowly with articles, "bible-studies" and "counselling" sessions while not letting you come to their church meetings. Eventually, you will be invited to services (when you have mostly swallowed all of the propaganda so far dished out to you.) Once you start attending, that's when the horrors will start coming out. Comments from the speakers and other members during services/fellowship will expose the true policies and eventually a minister will tell you to stop talking to your family. By then you already have been fooled into believing you have a new spiritual family that is enough for you.

Anonymous said...

Hi Richard,
When we(family led by our father) joined the WCG, I remember us making the rounds meeting with family members within driving distance and telling them we wouldn't be having contact with them any more. This was mid to late 1970's.

Anonymous said...

8.51 AM. I was a WCG member in the 70s and 80s, and it was not the official policy to not have contact with family members. It sounds like some people were using the church as a excuse to dump difficult relatives. The closest I ever experienced to this, was one sermon claiming that church relationships should be superior to family relationships. But it stopped short of rejecting family.

Anonymous said...

It will be interesting if Gerry gets rid of Sam Baxter. Sam is the minister in Beaumont Texas who has a wife who is not a member. I suppose there are different rules for "the elite".

Mickey said...

Policies varied from church area to church area in wcg. While it may not have been "official" policy, some of the pastors threw their weight around more than others. So it is possible that in some areas the congregations were advised to cut off family members. I first for a taste of the inconsistencies when I met a dark skinned Brazilian convert who informed me that at home, no one in the church would have any thing to say if he dated a blond european looking girl.