More words of wisdom from the Kitchen Bros on returning to the one true Worldwide Church of God. If you have joined any splinter group and fail to return to the true WCG then you are choosing to stay in the bed of harlots and will be infected by spiritual herpes. Who knew!!!!!!
Is it any wonder that in 2025 Armstrongism continues to reach new levels of absurdity?
So this Bible Study touched on a scripture in Song of Solomon 5:3, of Christ or the King desiring to have those who have separated to repent and come back as His Bride a/k/a the Worldwide Church of God!But notice, in verse 6, getting ready too late, the King withdrew Himself! He led His future wife to a place of safety in final preparation for their marriage!! He was no longer there to gather the ones who weren’t zealous in getting closer to Him!But they ended up in that position through separation! That’s how Satan gets ahold of some of us in the Church! He gets them uninterested in God’s Work, gets them separated from those of the Church, and feeds them heresy to keep them away.So he sent wolves to create a “break”.Then he used that “break” and creates a solution, namely another church group is formed. Then he says “you can’t return, that church has died!” That is the blinders or strong delusion, that keeps the people attending the new groups.So the warning to those who have fell victim to Satan’s work, is to spare them as Jewels meant for saving! If they don’t respond soon enough, they will get left behind, and Satan will wage war on them as God says He will. Because he too was also watching them run to the door too late.So it behooves us to remember, and to get back to being the Worldwide Church of God, and draw close to Jesus Christ! Because yes, it may feel good to stay in that bed of a harlot, but the spiritual herpes will grab you and you won’t make it to Christ in time unless you become ZEALOUS and repent quickly and adjust yourself to run run run to Jesus Christ! For He alone in your savior! He alone is your King! He alone is your husband! There is no other! What are you waiting for dear brethren? We are to be ready for marriage! So Run!
11 comments:
Unbelievable! The Kitchens hanging out with bikers to come up with such things as "Spiritual Herpes"?
What's next? Gonococcal Pneumonia?
BB
The Kitchens, trying to assist us, appear to be Spiritual AIDS.
"Kitchen" Comment was made stating that each of us needs to: "...adjust yourself to run run run to Jesus Christ! For He alone in your savior! He alone is your King!..."
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Is that what the "true WCG" believes, because it is false, and may even border on blasphemy and idolatry. Where is The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Acts 3:13), Jesus' God, Jesus' Father in the scheme of things?
For example, Jesus alone is not my/our/your saviour. Consider the following:
"Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, [which is] our hope;" I Tim 1:1
Jesus alone is not our saviour; God is our Saviour. Therefore, aren't both our saviour?
Does Timothy know what he is writing?
"For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe." I Tim 4:10
The living God is a reference to Jesus' God, His Father, the living God and He is the Saviour of all men! Again, no "Jesus alone" thingy.
In fact this living God is the One who declared the following:
"For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever." Deut 32:40
The Word can't say that, and neither can Jesus say those words.
One more verse, and there are many such verses:
Titus 1:1 "Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
:3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;"
So, is it deceptive for the manmade "true WCG" to emphatically state that Jesus: "...alone is your savior! He alone is your King!..."
Time will tell...
John
John 10:25-30
“Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
“And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
“My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
“I and my Father are one.”
John 4.42
“And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.”
Ephesians 5:23
“For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.”
Philippians 3:20
“For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:”
If Jesus is the savior of the world, savior of the body, what of 1 Timothy 4:10?
“For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.”
Are not the Father and Jesus One?
Titus 2:13
“Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;”
Here does Paul call Jesus GOD!! Oh noes!!!
2 Peter 3:18
“ But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
1John 4:14
“ And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.”
I said what I said, not opposing Jesus Christ and His role with the Father. If I omitted such, would it not appear as anti-Christ? To omit Jesus Christ as our savior?
Did not God come in the flesh?
Time has well since told, dear Johnny boy.
The fact that you wrestle againste calling Jesus Christ savior and king, is revealing of your attitude against Christ.
If you disapprove of God the Father sending His Son Jesus Christ as savior and King…boy oh boy.
God the father no where says skip my son.
Shame on you.
In Christian service,
Samuel Kitchen
Kitchen wrote: "...I said what I said, not opposing Jesus Christ and His role with the Father. If I omitted such, would it not appear as anti-Christ? To omit Jesus Christ as our savior?
Did not God come in the flesh?..."
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No, God did not come in the flesh.
A God cannot die. God the Father, The God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Acts 3:13), cannot die! A God cannot die, but it was the Word that was made flesh (John 1:12; I John 4:3; 2 John 1:7). At that instant, the Word ceased existence. What was made flesh lived about 30 years and also ceased existence for 3 days and 3 nights. The God, that God of Israel, does not die:
“For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.” Deuteronomy 32:40
That God does not die, or lie!
By you writing that Jesus: "...alone is your savior...," you actually denied God the Father, which is antichrist. And there are many antichrists.
1 John 2:22 "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
I concluded my comment above with asking a question: So, is it deceptive for the manmade "true WCG" to emphatically state that Jesus: "...alone is your savior! He alone is your King!..."
And that answer is: "Yes!" You never read, as far as I can recall, Jesus drawing attention to Himself. He usually directed people to His God, His Father, and not to Himself.
Jesus knew that of Himself He could do nothing, and that His Father was doing the works in Him, because He was the workmanship of His Father's hands, and Jesus knew it. He set that example for us.
You may read numerous examples in the Bible where Jesus was around many people who were healed, and you will see that the people "glorified God, the God of Israel," etc. The didn’t glorify Jesus. How do you think the people came to understand that the proper thing to do was to glorify Jesus’ God, Jesus’ Father??????
Consider the time when a bunch of people were healed.
e.g. Matthew 9:8 But when the multitudes saw [it], they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.
e.g. Matthew 15:31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.
Anyway, you did not deny Jesus (and neither did I: scriptures show where both Father and Son are saviours), but you did deny Jesus’ God, Jesus’ Father when you insist that we must: “..adjust yourself to run run run to Jesus Christ! For He alone in your savior! He alone is your King!”
The verbiage you used about one lone savior is deceptive, is not wholly true, believe it or not, and you need to revise your verbiage if you do not want to deny Jesus’ God, His Father, who “knows best,” and has such great love shown to each of us by the power of His Spirit through His Son (I Cor 8:6 “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.”)!
Time and scriptures have well since told…
John
Song of Solomon is about the love between the King and His Bride.
This is the basis of what I wrote.
The believers, those of the true Church of God, will marry Jesus Christ as the bride of Jesus Christ.
In Song of Solomon, the bride runs to her husband the King too late. In her lateness, she is imprisoned and wounded by the watchmen, mistaken as a lady of the night.
God the Father clearly made Jesus Christ His Son the SAVIOR of the World, and Jesus will return as KING OF KINGS.
All knees will bow down to HIM. Jesus Christ.
The scriptures are clear on this.
I was talking about the Worldwide Church of God, not the Church of Jesus, but of God the Father. I mentioned the Work of God.
Now in John 6:29, Jesus Himself says, the work of God is this, to believe the one whom He (God the Father)sends.
In John 1, the Word was GOD! But the Word was also WITH GOD. The Word is the YAHWEH of the Old Testament, for Jesus revealed the Father to the world. It was He who gave the 10 Commandments, and it was He through whom the Father created the entire universe, nothing was not created without Christ!
“Before Abraham was, I AM”
-Jesus Christ
That is what the Word of God says!
What I wrote was an analysis of Son of Solomon and the various scriptures that talk about Jesus Christ being King, and Savior, and how we of the true Church of God, the believers, are His fiancé Bride, who will MARRY JESUS CHRIST when He returns very soon.
In that relationship, the Bride and Husband are one, and the bride runs to her husband, and He is the savior of the Body so says the Word of God! He is KING OF KINGS!
This wasn’t an ommission of Hod the Father, quite contrary, it was about the relationship between Jesus Christ and the Church.
It’s you that is soooo “anti-Christ”, you have to choose any variation of what’s I say, just to comfort yourself about your rebellion against the Most High God!
You know Jesus said about His servants, that if you reject them, you reject HIM, and if you reject Him you reject the Father? Any point along that diagram, you decide to deny and reject either the servant of God, Jesus Christ or the Father God, you are Antichrist.
I was talking about a fraction of that picture, the relationship between husband and wife.
If you think the husband shouldn’t protect and save the wife from trouble, and that the husband shouldn’t be head of the wife even as Jesus is head of the Church, then you reject and deny the Word of God! That makes YOU ANTICHRIST! An unbeliever, and Jesus said to the unbelievers, you do the work of your father Satan the Devil! Because I tell tell you the truth, you hate me.
And that’s really what is happening here. Because I told the truth about the relationship between Jesus Christ and the Church, using Song of Solomon, you chose to hate me and oppose what I said.
I don’t care. You are free will agent. You can believe Honk Kong Phooey really knows karate for all I care!
But you are ignorant or simply a liar who knows the truth but just doesn’t like it!
A big mouth doesn’t make a big man.
In Christian service,
Samuel Kitchen
Samuel Kitchen, Sunday, March 16, 2025 at 9:09:31 AM PDT, wrote:
"...for Jesus revealed the Father to the world. It was He who gave the 10 Commandments..."
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Jesus did not give the 10 Commandments.
"...The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus;..." Acts 3:13
The 10 were given by the God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob: not Jesus!
Additionally, you kind of worm your way around, like going down the pig's tail, or down some corkscrew when you do a "song and dance" about striving to say that the "truth" is that we all need to: "...run run run to Jesus Christ! For He alone in your savior! He alone is your King!..." Your statement is false, but you seem to be unable to admit that what you wrote was false. You are locked on to "another Jesus," one that carries on like His Father does not exist, when God the Father is the very reason the Word, and subsequently Jesus Christ, even existed in the first place.
You talk about bowing down to Jesus, but who is at Jesus' left hand? Isn't it the Father? Jesus will be in the presence of His Father and when the people bow down, it will be because they are bowing down to Jesus' God, Jesus' Father, who is the Greatest, the One who is primarily responsible for all of those resurrected to live again.
Do you really think Jesus wants you to bow down to Him, when He is in the presence of His Father? Think about it. Jesus wasn't locked into SELF: HimSELF, like so many human beings are loved into themSELVES.
But that aside, you wrote: "...And that’s really what is happening here. Because I told the truth about the relationship between Jesus Christ and the Church, using Song of Solomon, you chose to hate me and oppose what I said..."
Now, that is a silly thought. Where did you get that thought from? Why do you judge/blame me by saying I chose to hate you?
Didn't Jesus, not some "another Jesus," tell us to love one another?
Well, that is how I think of you and all humanity, regardless of any silly thoughts that enter your head. You know not what you judge/blame...especially when you accuse others of hating you, just because they don't think exactly like you.
Do you remember some mother wanting her sons to be on Jesus' right and left side? And Jesus said that responsibility belonged to One who was in charge: His God, His Father. Right now, the Father is at Jesus' left hand. The mother knew not what she was thinking and saying.
Jesus is not watching for those who wish to worship Him, and desire to run, run, run to Him as thought He were: "...He alone in your savior! He alone is your King!..."
His advice is this:
Matthew 4:10 "Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him ONLY shalt thou serve."
Yes, that God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him ONLY shalt thou serve."
Now, those aren't my words. If you don't like them, don't take it up with me, but will you take it up with Him?
Time will tell...
John
Anyone reading what I write, know without a doubt I do not omit God the Father.
I was writing about the relationship between Jesus Christ and the Church of God running it parallel with Song of Solomon.
I just think it’s weird that you suggest that we cannot run to Jesus Christ as our savior, or to His role as our King? I wrote “alone” speaking about men, angels or devils who do not have the position or authority given to Jesus Christ. Even God the Father would not undermine Jesus Christ.
I am taken back by your accusation, because it is not what I was saying at all! You seem to want to argue, and twist what I said into what you what me to say.
I’ve taken sufficient time here to clarify this hopefully, because to me I wasn’t omitting the Father at all! I was just focusing on a particular scripture concerning Jesus Christ and the Church. God the Father made HIM (Jesus Christ) ALONE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD. That is scripture.
I believe God.
God the Father made HIM (Jesus Christ) ALONE KING OF KINGS.
Did He not? Will Jesus not return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords? No one else?
Don’t think you are too clever in your false accusation against me.
I am also speaking on the authority and name of Jesus Christ, which you are way too sensitive against. You tried to pass yourself off as a defender of the Father, but you omit that the Father made JESUS CHRIST ALONE OUR SAVIOR AND OUR KING! You could not admit, Jesus alone is savior and king, made so by the Father!
So I don’t see what your beef is with me or what I said. Jesus Christ was formally the Word or Logos, who was with God and WAS GOD! He became flesh, so yes God became flesh and is coming in the flesh of men. No man can say THAT without the Holy Spirit in him, so says the Word of God!
Jesus Christ is YAHWEH, and the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
Jesus Himself said so, while unbelievers argues against him.
He said, He spoke with Abraham and Moses Face to Face as a friend, and said before Abraham was I AM! They tried to stone Jesus Christ when He said that.
So when you say it was NOT JESUS CHRIST, you are the one guilty of bringing another Jesus Christ not mentioned in the Bible! You threw the words of Christ AWAY IN DISBELIEF, so you can paint and fantasize about another Jesus you have pictured in your twisted mind.
I’m sticking with the Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible. I’m sticking with the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. I am against all antichrist beliefs, and behavior as you have brought forth.
Again SHAME ON YOU!
In Christ’s service,
Samuel Kitchen
Samuel Kitchen, Monday, March 17, 2025 at 9:32:02 AM PDT, wrote:
Anyone reading what I write, know without a doubt I do not omit God the Father...
I’ve taken sufficient time here to clarify this hopefully, because to me I wasn’t omitting the Father at all!...
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Samuel, you earlier clearly wrote: “...adjust yourself to run run run to Jesus Christ! For He alone in your savior! He alone is your King!...”
Now, you did omit God the Father, who also is a Savior. Period.
Now, you don’t “see it that way. That’s okay, there is a way that seems right. You may continue to believe what you wish; however, you are doing a similar thing again as you wrote the following words:
“…Jesus Christ is YAHWEH, and the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
Jesus Himself said so…”
Well, where is The God, Jesus’ God, Jesus’ Father, then? Did He disappear? I think that without realizing what words you wrote that you are making Jesus Christ, the Son of The God, into God the Father, and that is ridiculous.
Jesus Christ is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
You have no argument with me. You argue with God’s inspired words:
“The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.” Acts 3:13
What would that (The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus…) look like from your point of view?
“The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob…”
Or, “Jesus, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus…”
Does that make sense to you? It doesn’t to me.
Use your logic on the following scripture and see if it makes sense to you:
Acts 5:30 “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.”
If that seems right to you, you would have this:
Acts 5:30 “Jesus raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.”
That is confusion, and who is it that authors confusion?
When will you, Samuel, because you did omit God the Father, stop striving to make Jesus into The God, The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, God the Father?
Time will tell…
John
The apostle Paul did well.
“The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.” (Acts 3:13)
Jesus revealed the Father. And here Paul, after receiving the revelation from Jesus Christ proclaims that it was God the Father who GLORIFIED His Son Jesus Christ.
John 1:1-4,14 explains this closer.
Two god-beings, one family named GOD.
John 1:18
“No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
The apostle Paul heard that declaration.
Now the Word of God says that God the father made Jesus ALONE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, and HE ALONE WILL RETURN AS KING OF KINGS after receiving the Kingdom from His Father!
He ALONE BUB! You don’t like it. But it bears the authority of the God of Heaven! And you may dislike and hate me for saying Christ alone is our savior and King, but GOD THE FATHER MADE HIM SO! The Word of God does not contradict itself. Why do you hate and disregard what the Father has done for His son?
And what is the point of arguing against this?
God’s people need to RUN RUN RUN to Jesus Christ for He alone is our Savior! He alone is our King!
I do not care what pigs think about this. I’m not casting it to you, you just want to rend rend rend! Well it’s no surprise. But I don’t post here casting pearls before swine, I posted elsewhere. You cannot escape the word of God.
Samuel Kitchen, Tuesday, March 18, 2025 at 10:33:23 AM PDT, wrote:
"...And you may dislike and hate me for saying Christ alone is our savior and King, but GOD THE FATHER MADE HIM SO!...And what is the point of arguing against this?..."
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Samuel, you don't need to feel any hatred from me. Jesus said: "Love one another."
Yes, GOD THE FATHER MADE HIM. Nice isn't it? John 3:16-17 have a lot more value because of what that God, that God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob did/does/will yet do!
God the Father, that God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jesus' God, who only has immortality, has no beginning or ending, but the Bible mentions several beginnings. John 1:1 is one such beginning, and here is another one:
Revelation 3:14 "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;"
Well, that God had to begin that at some beginning.
Oh, and didn't Isaiah reveal that God, that God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Jesus' God, to some of the ancient Israelites?
"But now, O LORD, thou [art] our father; we [are] the clay, and thou our potter; and we all [are] the work of thy hand." Isaiah 64:8
There's nothing like a little good news once in awhile!
But, and as you asked: "And what is the point of arguing against this?"
There is no point, because...
Now, you know very simply that time will tell...
John
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