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Saturday, February 10, 2024

"David C. Pack is gunning for the office of Village Idiot"

 


Eating Words

Imagine someone going on a very long theological Apology Tour but without the apologies. That best describes David C. Pack during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 492)” on February 3, 2024.

After a two-week self-sequestering, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God spent 89 minutes discrediting his own doctrines while draping them with the thin veil of new, exciting knowledge.

Half of “The Greatest Untold Story!” has been disputing the other half. Until Part 492. The scales are now tipped to 60% of the Series, being a rejection of the rest.

Has anyone ever lived who loves to eat his own words more than David C. Pack? If his legendary verbal blunders were thoroughly documented, he could quickly fill a volume of Encyclopedia Britannica.

David C. Pack debunks David C. Pack before a live studio audience for sixteen minutes.

Starting thirty seconds into Part 492, Hangry Dave feasted upon his own mutable words, proving how very easy to argue against himself was highly possible.

Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 00:28 When do years begin? Were WE right to think that it’s Passover? Is this right? Or is it close? Now, we’re gonna take another look at this. Some pretty exciting things are gonna come out tonight.

When Dave posses the question, you already see the coming answer. A host of rolling eyeballs swayed in the Main Hall as members scribbled in their notebooks, anticipating the words across the page soon to be eaten.

@ 01:36 Let’s begin to flesh out what a year is. It’s gonna be more important than you can imagine by the time we’re done.

@ 03:33 So, to God, a year is twelve months… Now, the first month wouldn’t start from the middle of Abib. You know, I been battling this for a long time. That’s why it took some extra time before bringing this in.

Dave begrudgingly accepted that a year is, in fact, twelve months. I wonder if the sky cracked open with light rays as an angelic choir sang for joy when this jolted him out of bed. Yes, learning such revelations is how the brethren of The Restored Church of God spend their Sabbaths.

@ 04:01 But, it comes down to accepting that there are twelve months in a year.

David C. Pack admits that years begin at the beginning of the first month. His keen prophetic perception caught up with the children napping on blankets at their parents’ feet. Thus, for 89 minutes on February 3, 2024, the Feast of Backpedaling was officially observed at The Restored Church of God.

The Prophetic All-You-Can-Eat Word Buffet opened, and False Elijah was the only one in line. 


While I worked at RCG’s Headquarters, David C. Pack’s continual clarifying reversals forced me to change how I took notes during Services. It became my personal coping mechanism for tolerating two- to three-hour messages three to four days a week.

Absolute misery is sitting in that frigid Main Hall, listening to Dave eat his own words from the previous message. Sometimes, even the next day. Week after week. Month after month. Year after year.

Instead of writing down what he expected us to, I began recording his stupidest comments and the Bible verses that refuted him. Sometimes, those verses were on the very page he was reading from. He blathered for minutes while I stared at the one verse he refused to read that would have abruptly ended his mistaken enthusiasm.

Relief would come when Dave finally accepted he was wrong about XYZ, just as I had noted the moment the false words fell from his ignorant lips. The exrcg.org website is an amplification of my personal process for sanity preservation.

A growing number of current RCG members refuse to listen to David C. Pack. Some brethren learn here what the Pastor General teaches. For real.

Many words Dave taught recently are eaten in Part 492, even though he does not present it that way.

Flashback Part 489 – January 6, 2024
@ 35:48 But, we do know (and this is impossible to argue). This is impossible to argue because it’s literally going forward…The seven years and a thousand absolutely, immutably impossible to argue those begin on the first night of Passover.

Eat up, Dave.

@ 37:49 Now, I ask again, have years always been from Abib 15? We know they will always be going forward. Inarguable.

Eat.

@ 1:42:02 Lacking something akin to an oracle, the Series is officially done.

Okay. Maybe that is cheating. He already ate those words during Part 490.

Flashback Part 490 – January 13, 2024
@ 20:52 Midst of the years. It very difficult because every year since the Garden has been the same. It’s Passover to Passover.

Eat.

@ 50:59 …every year will start at Passover. That’s why God had to (over these recent weeks) get me to see that.

Falsely using God’s name and deceptively speaking with God’s authority, David C. Pack proves that God had nothing to do with his understanding. Eating words that he claims God inspired should be the most frightening to anyone paying tithes to that spiritually corrupt organization.

@ 1:43:33 …and watch everything get cleared up. So, that’s pretty obvious that we’re right on track, but just not in the way we thought because what God is gonna do is infinitely better.

The Restored Church of God could not be further off-track with a blaspheming liar promoting doctrines of antichrist preaching about himself on the Sabbath, proving he is a human idol.

 Flashback Part 491 – January 20, 2024
@ 17:37 Elijah is raised to restore all things. Would restore all things include a temple?

Eat.

@ 52:16 Now, I'm actually gonna show you…the Bible tells you explicitly the day that this temple is built before you get to Passover.

Eat.

@ 1:10:14 Years start on the middle of a month at Passover. That’s a big key.

@ 1:18:13 So, let me explain that this Passover becomes a powerful juncture.

@ 1:39:06 But now you have a hard, fast deadline. It’s a line in the sand. 

Eat. Eat. Eat. Those are only a few samples of the words David C. Pack ate during Part 492. As he continued the message, the leftovers were found further back in the fridge.


Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 04:41 …and months always began on the fifteenth? Now, that didn’t work. But I, ‘course, I’m gotta come to why I thought Passover was the day that the Kingdom began.

@ 05:57 But I’m I was trying to be faithful to something that I saw.

In The Restored Church of God, it is now acceptable for the Pastor General “to be faithful” to fraudulent imaginary ideas. But you better not try that, brethren.

@ 06:04 So, Creation [chuckles], think about it. Would’ve been Abib 1. God didn’t start the world on the fifteenth of a month. And I it bothered me terribly. But, I was trying to be faithful to the Passover Christ said we’ll take the Passover that day “in My Father’s Kingdom.”

So, David C. Pack was not technically to blame. The ambiguous words Jesus Christ uttered caused Dave’s confusion. There are always excuses as to why this, that, and the other turned out to be false.

@ 09:45 “…that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s Kingdom.” That just means the designated day. It does not mean the Father’s Kingdom came on Passover. And, by the way, would it be the 14th or the 15th anyway? …It does not say the Kingdom came that day. Took me a long time to see it.

The Kingdom of God arriving this Passover? Eat.

Jesus Christ takes the Passover symbols on Abib 15? Eat.

@ 10:32 So, it does not mean the Kingdom comes on Passover. The Kingdom of God comes two weeks before that.

@ 11:14 And that bothered me terribly. How could that be? Utter chaos. Utter chaos on the Passover. But, if the Passover were kept two weeks later, everybody could be ready for it.

The Day of the Lord occurs on Passover? Eat.

@ 13:39 In Colossians 2:16, the apostle Paul said New Moons are a shadow of a thing to come. Passover's a full moon. New Moon is a shadow. Now, the church already the church, at least (and I think God understood this with Mr. Armstrong). The church always kept Trumpets. So, the church always did keep one New Moon and that was one reason many thought the Kingdom would come on Trumpets.

The shadow Paul wrote of was Passover? Eat.

@ 16:15 I assumed that because they were there for a while, it was natural, “It must be Passover.” They’ve got seven days. No.

Dave assumed a natural conclusion that was utterly false. The Power of Presumption is strong with this one. And he keeps screaming this to the brethren. Why do they not listen?

All of that was just in the first sixteen minutes.


I remember learning in The Restored Church of God that positions of authority were granted from above, and men are not to seek them out. In God's Government, "Offices are given. They are not taken."

Despite that, David C. Pack is gunning for the office of Village Idiot.

As Dave started on his new biblical fixation, he foolishly repeated the same mistakes he had winced past for sixteen minutes. It is painful to witness. After eating his own words because of his presumptions heaped unto heaven, the man reapplies the same broken logic to his next big thing.

@ 18:46 …and it’s yearly. It’s every year. It kinda sounds suspicious. Like hmm. Is this potentially, maybe, or we talkin' about the start of a year? Hmm. Maybe.

@ 19:43 You might just pause and say, “What’s the most natural time you would offer a yearly sacrifice?” Probably the start of a year.

If you have an annual physical, it does not mean you do it on the first day of the year. Something happening each year does not prove it occurs at the start of the year. That concept escapes Dave.

Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy must be too frightened to offer sound logic to their human idol. Maybe by now, Jim and Andy consider it a good day if they do not get yelled at. Rational thought is banned from the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium.

Presumptuous conclusions for a future word-gorging in 3…2…1…

@ 29:11 Now, that’s powerful knowledge. It changes a lot of things.

@ 29:33 This’ll tell you the Day of the Lord is absolutely Abib 1.

@ 34:00 Again, this is revelatory knowledge. I’m giving you the Scriptures.

@ 35:11 The midst of the years has to be Abib 1. There’s no other time you can have it.

@ 35:54 So, Abib 1 is always the midst of the years. Always.

Hangry Dave loves to eat his cold leftovers.

Flashback Part 482 – November 30, 2023
@ 1:40:03 The midst of the years, it has to be Cheshvan 1 or Abib. Abib will not work.

If Dave could eat pictures, he would want to consume this whether the midst was Cheshvan 15 or 20. Everything he has taught about this before has been eaten.


Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 37:38 But I hope by now, it’s impossible to believe that years do not begin on Abib 1, and all iterations of the Kingdom begin on Abib 1, and all years since the Garden into eternity have been Abib 1.

@ 38:23 Go up year to year. Add sacrifices. Abib 1. So, there’s no arguing with that anymore. Not that anybody would want to.

Well, about that. A future David C. Pack may have some stern words on this topic.


The further Dave went, the more historic the words he ate. He wolfed down hours of content in seconds.

@ 1:02:05 “And the messenger of the covenant, whom you delight in: behold, he shall come.” Whether that’s Elijah or Christ (it looks like it’s Elijah, but there’s a case that it’s Christ), dun-make any difference, they’re both there. There are, they're all there, and you're there, too. [laughs] We’re all there.

Stop.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dave is no longer sure HE is the Messenger of the Covenant? Wow.

Dave rushed to call this out, ignoring all the outstanding "cascade learning" of Part 466 like he was snatching a donut off the counter on his way to a meeting.

Flashback Part 466 – September 7, 2023
@ 24:52 "And the Messenger of the Covenant, whom you delight in." We gotta talk about that.

@ 42:48 God’s people delight in a coming Elijah. We all talked about him. This is a man that people delight in.

Eaten.

An RCG principle is, “If someone is not sure they are the True Church, they cannot be the True Church.” A man is either written about in the Bible or not. Now, Dave is not sure that is him. Double-wow.

The more alarming implication is that whether a Bible verse applies to Jesus Christ or an ordinary man, it “dun-make any difference” to the leadership of The Restored Church of Another god.

So, brethren could be reading about their Savior or Pastor General David C. Pack, and it does not matter. Even those half-asleep in RCG should be concerned about that.

Are they reading about Jesus Christ or the Antichrist? According to Dave, it dun-make any difference.


Dave admitted he might not be the Messenger of the Covenant but doubled down elsewhere.

Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 1:09:24 "…and the counsel of peace shall be between them both." Well, the only two people who’ve been mentioned are God and Elijah. So, the Father’s there while His house is being built.

David C. Pack will work directly with the Father even though Elijah is not mentioned a single time in Zechariah.

@ 1:10:50 "The mountain of the Lord's House is set up, and all nations flow to it."

@ 1:11:02 But, it’s built after He gets here. It’s not waiting for him on Abib 1.

The Temple is built by David C. Pack before Jesus Christ returns on Passover? Eat.

@ 1:14:13 So, the Temple is now obviously built all while God’s here.

In your face, ALL of Part 491! Eaten. The power of Dave compels you!


Jesus Christ was scheduled to return at sunset on April 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM ET. Have those words also been eaten?

@ 1:11:39 But, God’s gonna let all human beings who have ever lived build that house. Maybe starting Abib 1. Maybe starting before that.

@ 1:16:42 But, I am not sure, and I'm not gonna declare that we wait till Abib 1. We’re to watch. Because the event that’s coming is a thief event.

@ 1:23:28 I just don’t know. I know that it’s not long after the Series is done.

@ 1:26:12 If you ask me, “Mr. Pack, could you give me an opinion?” All I can do is give you an opinion. I suspect…I suspect we’re waiting to the only day I know of that cannot tarry. That will surely come. And that’s the coming of the next year.

Hint. Hint. Abib 1. Wink. Wink. The golden days of Dave emphasizing, “Brethren, you don’t want Mr. Pack’s opinion,” are long dead.

Part 492 was an 89-minute Feast of Backpedaling that chewed up doctrines of the past. Oh, the joys that Part 493 will contain.



David C. Pack is a prophetic bulimic vomiting into and eating from the same bowl. This has been the case since 2013.

The original title, “The Greatest Story Never Told!” was eaten.

The first thirty parts of the Series in Member Services were eaten.

Literature including "Is 'That Prophet' Alive Today?—The Rise of False Prophets," "I Will Send Elijah to Restore All Things," "Herbert W. Armstrong—His Life in Proper Prospective," and "The Bible's Difficult Scriptures Explained!," were all eaten.

Dozens of The World to Come episodes were eaten.

On and on it goes. Words eaten. Money eaten. Lives eaten.

That is the untold story of The Restored Church of Another god.

When there is no accountability, rampant corruption takes hold. Seducing spirits allow no rest for the brethren choosing to stay there.

Eat. Vomit. Eat. Vomit. Eat. David C. Pack will not stop this custom anytime soon.

And I will not be eating my own words about that.

 


Marc Cebrian

 



Friday, January 12, 2024

The Platitudinous Mantle Role of Bob Thiel, Dibar Apartian, and Rod Meredith

 


A comment on Will "Thinking" Land You In Hot Water With Your Church?

Folks, here is a "mantle dream" B. Thiel posts he dreamt in '08 or '09 about who was/is/might be/might have been "the mantle" rather than who was or is the leader at a given time in the once "righteous", "pure", apple-of-God's-eye, "Philadelphian", LCG (before they became the "now Laodicean" LCG)⏳ :

"But before I get to that, let me relate a dream that probably happened in 2008 or 2009." <--(which is while Dibar Apartian was still alive, not passing away till Dec. 8 2010).

"I was about 50 at the time (which essentially makes me an ‘old man’ per Numbers 8:25; cf. John 8:57). At first the dream made little sense".

"In my dream, there seemed to be two parallel lines. The then presiding evangelist of the Living Church of God (LCG) Roderick Meredith was on the top line and I was on the line much below. In the dream, I kept calling up to Dr. Meredith, but he never would respond." <--(if this dream was in '08 or '09 while Mr. Dibar Apartian was alive till Dec. 2010, then wouldn't God likely have considered maybe showing in that dream a 3rd "parallel line" for Dibar Apartian during the RCM/B. Thiel parallel lines rising/lowering/intersecting scenario...thereby helping B. Thiel (& us) clarify what mantle role Mr. Apartian sort of "secretly" held, despite all the LCG doormat loyalists adhering to Rod Meredith's bloated mantle role which was soon to be humanly decided on being disregarded & discarded i.e. formation of CCOG?). 

"This lack of response made no sense to me during the dream. Then after what seemed to be a long time, the lines crossed with his line dropping and my line going up." <--what line or position might "secret" mantle Dibar Apartian have had somewhere in that dream...did the lines cross onto Dibar somewhere, or ONLY ONTO Bob's "super" line 📏📐.

If Bob can humanly decide when or when not to stay loyal to or to discount Rod Meredith's (or even years prior with Tkach Sr.'s) hierarchical "mantle", then why did or does Bob & the doormat folk place such high regard on adhering to all these hierachical top leaders that eventually become disregarded & dismissed from hierarchy anyway? 

Bob got "the mantle" from a place (LCG) which likely was NEVER the mantle itself. Why didn't Gaylyn Bonjour practice COG separately from LCG before participating in a "mantle transfer" from LCG to CCOG? If Mr. Bonjour were to "forsake assembling together" with the increasingly corrupt LCG, wouldn't he have then been actually suitable to participate in a mantle transfer?

"On October 3, 2008 when Dr. Roderick C. Meredith (Presiding Evangelist of the Living Church of God) called me and said to me, “God may consider you to be a prophet.” Dr . Meredith and I discussed this in depth as Dr. Meredith was the one who brought the topic up."<--who cares what a bumbling Rod Meredith thinks he assumes to know about what God may or may not be considering? 

"The conversation with Dr. Meredith weighed on my mind, so I asked Dibar Apartian (who was the Feast site coordinator) and Dr. Jeff Fall (who was my pastor then, and who also attended there that year) to meet with me before services one morning. I told both of them about the conversation with Dr. Meredith.

Upon hearing this, Dibar Apartian got upset. He told me that Dr. Meredith did not say such a thing and I assured him that he had.<--HEY, who cares what Rod Meredith non-mantle said? 

Why did Bob ever follow Rod M. in the 1st place? Why does Bob expect us to count it as credit that he "trusted" & had "faith in" the curmudgeon bully Rod C. Meredith? When Bob still harps on us to follow his mantle role now, why did Bob get to prove all things regarding J. Tkach Sr. & later, R. Meredith? But if we try to prove all things too such as this Dibar Apartian secret mantle stuff (with RCM still at times supposedly commanding hierarchical church governance allegiance/faith loyalty), suddenly we are an accuser of the brethren, but Bob wasn't?

Friday, January 5, 2024

David C. Pack’s Passover Corruption



David C. Pack’s Passover Corruption

 

Driven by the Spirit of Error, false prophet and false apostle David C. Pack thinks to change times and laws. He teaches doctrines of demons. He continually takes away from the words of prophecy in the Bible. He adds unto the things written therein. A double-minded man unstable in all his ways, he seduces sleepy minds with cunning craftiness as he lies in wait to deceive. Oh, how he covets the treasures of his lying tongue.

 

A wicked corruption has infected The Restored Church of God. The whole head is sick.

 

Pastor General David C. Pack has a corrupted mind driven by a corrupted spirit speaking corrupted words, forming corrupted doctrines for a corrupted organization enabled by corrupted hirelings that feign corrupted agreement before a corrupted people waiting for a corrupted savior to appear with a corrupted kingdom ruled by a corrupted god.

 

David C. Pack brings in damnable heresies using his pernicious ways. He is deceiving and being deceived. By his fruits, you know him very well.

 

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 488)” on December 30, 2023, David C. Pack manipulates, distorts, obfuscates, lies, and blasphemes to serve the purpose of proving that Jesus Christ will return at sunset on April 13 [Abib 15], 2025. “That day” is the Day of the Lord, which begins the 7-Year Kingdom of God.

 

That may sound routine for him, but what it took to get there is far from it.

 

The only way he found to make all the Bible verses fit his latest narrative was to nudge the start of Passover just a tiny bit. Only a few hours, really. A change so subtle in the intentionally confusing manner he presented it that some brethren might not even notice. Utilizing the reinforcing tactic of repetition, David C. Pack forces the Scriptures to bend to his will to offer a corrupted Passover his adoring worshippers in The Restored Church of Another god.

 

Jesus Christ Will Take The Passover Symbols On Abib 15.

Not Abib 14.

 

 

The emphatic nature by which the corrupted Passover of Part 488 was taught is surreal to observe. David C. Pack was so convincing in his earnestness that I was compelled to listen to the 30-minute portion again to see if something critical was missed that would reveal a logic to the gaslighting.

 

No matter how you adjust the lens or, which way you angle the prism, or how many asterisk caveats you note in the margin, no matter how thick the layers of background context you insulate between his fraudulent words, there is no way to see what David C. Pack preaches as being true.

 

During Part 488, he teaches that Jesus Christ will return and take the Passover symbols on Abib 15, and for Him to do otherwise would be a terrible, unlawful example.

 

Despite RCG’s literature explaining the Passover symbols are to be taken on the fourteenth, despite the Spring Holy Day schedule on rcg.org listing that Passover is observed after sunset at the very beginning of the fourteenth, David C. Pack shouts and vigorously points out that the Passover and the Second Passover both take place on the fifteenth of the month. The Bible proves David C. Pack is a liar.



Trying to make sense of how David C. Pack’s broken mind works is a disturbing experience and not recommended for anyone. The only way to somewhat grasp the madness possessing David C. Pack during Part 488 is to understand his Primers of Assumption.


David C. Pack hops around these mistaken concepts, blurring which fraudulent assumption he is speaking of at any given moment. He is incomprehensible without noting the confused mess sloshing around between his ears.


Remember, these are his Primers of Assumption. They are not provable truths of the Bible.


·      During Part 487, he taught that Jesus Christ would bring the Kingdom of God on Abib 1, 2025.

·      The First 1-Year Kingdom is now The Acceptable Year and is NOT the Kingdom of God.

·      The Second 7-Year Kingdom is the Kingdom of God.

·      Jesus Christ will take the Passover symbols the very day He returns.

·      The Day of the Lord is Abib 15.

·      The seven Days of Unleavened Bread are interchangeable with the term Passover.

·      The Second Passover is Iyar 15.

After 79 minutes, the brethren of The Restored Church of God were sufficiently exhausted and lulled into a semi-conscious state. David C. Pack was finally ready to begin the real heart of the message.


Part 488 – December 30, 2023


@ 1:19:00 Quietly in the background, I’ve been wrestling with some things. Some things terribly. But, When is the Day of the Lord? Is Abib 1 correct? It’s Abib, but is it Abib 1? For years, I’ve been haunted by three verses.


The first order of business was for David C. Pack to undo Part 487 and move the date of the Kingdom of God from Abib 1 to Abib 15.


@ 1:19:28 So, I wanna WE wanna clear it up, and it's gonna lead to some incredible things in the next message. But, not until I draw a bright red line in the sand what the Bible says actually is the Day of the Lord. It is not Abib 1…but it’s close.


Switching from Abib 1 to Abib 15 has no consequences in The Restored Church of God. But, if anyone took notes during Part 487, this minor adjustment exposed David C. Pack as a lying blasphemer. Again.


Flashback Part 487 – December 23, 2023


@ 1:13:19 I’m just gonna tell you absolutely on God’s authority. I’ll tell ya this much, and I'll tell you, I mean, just I will stand on this on this date: The Kingdom of God comes Abib 1.


He stood on Abib 1 for less than seven days after invoking God’s name. The Bible calls that swearing falsely.


There is an evil spirit compelling David C. Pack’s Passover corruption.




Part 488 – December 30, 2023

@ 1:20:20 “For this is My blood of the New Testament which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Ready? That’s the symbols. “But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine until THAT DAY when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.” So, Christ is gonna keep the Passover either illegally and unlawfully on Abib 1, or He's gonna do it on Abib 15.

 

Stop.

 

It would be biblically illegal and unlawful to take the Passover on Abib 15 or Abib 1 instead of Abib 14. The brethren were observing Abib 14 before Herbert W. Armstrong was in diapers. The first time.

 

The Bible is clear when Passover is to be observed.

 

Leviticus 23:5-6

In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days you must eat unleavened bread.

 

Numbers 9:5

And they kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the first month at even in the wilderness of Sinai: according to all that the LORD commanded Moses, so did the children of Israel.

 

Ezra 6:19

And the children of the captivity kept the Passover upon the fourteenth day of the first month.

 

Jesus Christ was never going to take the Passover on Abib 1. This is David C. Pack vehemently dismantling his own teaching from a week ago. He attacks the false premise he created with faux-righteous indignation as a means of psychological manipulation.

 

Without any set-up or explanation, David C. Pack reinterprets his own version of the Scriptures and concludes that Jesus Christ will take the Passover on Abib 15. He needs the Passover to be Abib 15 for his entirely fictional timing construct to work.

 

Maybe that idea was born from the same Spirit of Error that moved the Second Passover last year from Iyar 14 to 15. Or when he temporarily moved The Last Great Day from the fall and tacked it to the back end of the Days of Unleavened Bread. There are elements of Part 488 that should sound eerily familiar. We will see if The Night To Be Much Observedreceives another logic strangulation.

 

@ 1:22:14 We read this on the 14th because Christ had to die. And Christ died almost exactly when the 15th came.

 

Stop.

 

Almost exactly?

 

Jesus Christ died on the cross on the fourteenth of Abib. Joseph of Arimathaea petitioned Pilate for permission to take His body. They took His body down and moved it to a tomb where He was wrapped in a shroud, and the stone was rolled over the entrance before sunset. Did all of that take two minutes? Ten minutes? A half-hour? An hour? Almost exactly when the fifteenth came?

 

David C. Pack is so desperate to associate Abib 15 with the death of Jesus Christ that he bends the timing to make it seem like it fits. He is playing a perverted shell game with words. This will not be the only time he distorts reality and contradicts his own literature.

 

The True Jesus Christ—Unknown To Christianity by David C. Pack (p.163)

Between the ninth and twelfth hours (3:00-6:00 p.m.), Christ died (Luke 23:44-46). With Governor Pilate’s permission, Joseph of Arimathaea procured the body, wrapped it in linen (John 19:40) and placed it in the sepulcher (Luke 23:50-53). By the time the burial was complete, the Sabbath “drew on” (vs. 54). Thus, the burial took place on Passover day, shortly before sunset.

 

Sunset in Jerusalem on Passover 2024 is 7:13 pm. Does 73 minutes accurately describe “almost exactly?”

 

@ 1:22:40 “I will not any more eat thereof,” which has to be the Passover, “until IT,” which has to be the Passover, “till IT be fulfilled in the Kingdom of God.” Now, if you’re under the impression that, you know, you okay, the beginning of the year is Abib 1, that’s what you shoot for.

 

There is no impression. God instructed Moses to begin years on Abib 1.

 

Exodus 12:2

This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

 

The whole point of this doctrinal abomination of warped heresy is to make the point that the Day of the Lord will arrive on Abib 15. Therefore, the Passover verses must also fit Abib 15.

 

David C. Pack is a liar and not a good one. He is not sly, clever, or adept. His knees must have callouses from all the praying he did beforehand so that the brethren would not notice what he was doing right in front of them. That seems to have paid off. There were no walk-outs at Headquarters.

 

 

@ 1:23:22 But does God add a little bit to make it an Acceptable Year because I’m telling you based on these verses…I am telling you absolutely, inarguably that the Passover Christ is gonna take is either gonna be an illegal Passover in front of all human beings who ever lived, setting a horrific example for the next 1,007 years for all other people who will take it at the right time, or this is talking about Abib 15.

 

David C. Pack obeys unrighteousness. All the Headquarters hirelings in The Restored Church of Another god obey unrighteousness. This is not just error, misunderstanding, or mistakes. This is wickedness and all manner of ungodliness.

 

This is the kind of devilish teachings that RCG indulges in with an unbridled, unaccountable, and unrestrained False Prophet David C. Pack at the helm. Shame on every last enabler in that biblically corrupt organization. A nest of vipers.

 

@ 1:23:54 So, “Can Christ keep the Passover when it’s not the Passover?” is a question that fell from view. It would break the law. He would be keeping a Night To Be Much Observed two weeks early. Can’t do it two days early or two days late.

 

This idea came from the mind of David C. Pack. Not from the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible does it "suggest" that Jesus Christ would keep the Night To Be Much Observed on Abib 1. This straw argument sets up a false premise in a long, worthless list.

 

Up until this point, the most charitable listeners might be able to give David C. Pack some wiggle room because maybe he is accidentally misspeaking or suffering from moments of confusion. Maybe they need to hear it again because that single vital sentence was missed that would make his logic work.

 

But then we receive a clear, direct statement that unabashedly contradicts the Bible.

 

@ 1:24:18 In fact, the 15th is so important that if you miss it, you wait till the 15th of the next month. Not the next available opportunity in your schedule.

 

David C. Pack is a lying blasphemer. This is why exrcg.org exists. Otherwise, nobody outside the locked gates of that spiritually corrupted organization would know about this corrupted Passover. Thank God these messages “leak” out.

 

If someone is unable to keep the Passover in the first month, God gave Moses instructions on how they can keep a Second Passover in the second month. Should we obey a man, or should we obey God?

 

Numbers 9:10-11

Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If any man of you or of your posterity shall be unclean by reason of a dead body, or be in a journey afar off, yet he shall keep the Passover unto the LORD. The fourteenth day of the second month at even they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

 

The Passover symbols are commanded to be taken on Abib 14, not Abib 15, despite how many times David C. Pack repeats it. No matter how often he threatens Jesus Christ with committing sin, He will never take the Passover on Abib 15.

 

David C. Pack is a broken-minded human being. His whole head is sick. The brethren who sit quietly and tolerate this blaspheming heresy must be using all their might to suppress the awful gnawing in their guts because they know this is wrong. It is not just incorrect but evil.

 

David C. Pack teaches evil.


@ 1:24:30 God drives home in two different ways the Passover must be taken at the 15th. Now, as I said, never mind the horrible example it would set beside being unlawful. How can all people hear for one thousand-plus years that Christ kept the Passover on the wrong date? Impossible.

 

If Jesus Christ kept it on the fifteenth, that would be the wrong date. Members of RCG keep it on the fourteenth. Their literature says to keep it on the fourteenth. The Bible says to keep it on the fourteenth. Why is David C. Pack teaching this? How can he teach this?

 

Why are brethren not leaping from their chairs and fleeing? Shame on those who stay. Shame on you.

 

 

@ 1:27:24 “So, when I come,” they will take the symbols with Christ again. And that’s sorta suggests in 1 Corinthians 11:26 that the symbols will come very close to the 14th.

 

Then, the brethren of The Restored Church of God will be “very close” to keeping the Passover correctly.

 

How ironic that for Passover Services in The Restored Church of God, the doors in every congregation are locked shut at the moment of sunset so that brethren who are “very close” to being on time are kept out. They are forbidden from taking the symbols and must wait one month.

 

When David C. Pack needs words to be precise, he will sell them as precise. When David C. Pack needs words to be approximate, he will bulldoze through them as being around-ish. A true con man has to keep his rules loose so he can be nimble and pivot on a dime when necessary. David C. Pack is a religious grifter working his angles to sell his wares.

 

@ 1:29:38 God comes with all the saints. So, Christ is revealing Himself in His Day at the split second at (as the Lamb of God) the split second that Israel would always slay the lamb. Passover explains dusk now. A highly specific moment, and it can't bend.

 

Part 488 contains lots of bending.

 

“…sorta suggests…”

“…the symbols will come very close to the 14th.”

“…does God add a little bit…”

“…if you’re under the impression…”

“…Christ died almost exactly…”

 

Part of the confused bending of Part 488 is how David C. Pack shifts from referencing the Passover observance and symbols to Passover day when Jesus Christ died and the Days of Unleavened Bread being called Passover. He seamlessly moves from one to the other and you cannot catch it without paying careful attention.

 

@ 1:25:46 Passover is naturally the feast of wine on the lees. It's not one day. It's seven days.

 

@ 1:31:48 So, you’re gonna start to warn if it were Abib 15. The first day of Passover.

 

And this is how David C. Pack gives himself a Passover gray area, so you cannot tell when he means the night of observance or the Days of Unleavened Bread.

 

Ezekiel 45:21

In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, you shall have the Passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.

 

David C. Pack blurs the lines between the Passover symbols and the Days of Unleavened Bread.

 

@ 1:37:34 Passover is a Sunday. A start of a week in 2025. April 13th. That’s what it would be. It’s a Sunday. Therefore, every year till earth is gone would start with a Passover for seven days.

 

David C. Pack lies again. Passover in 2025 is Saturday, April 12. So says rcg.org.



@ 1:38:30 It’s perfect. It’s perfect. For seven days to end the Millennium if every year all the way till earth is gone began with the seven-day Feast of the Passover (Unleavened Bread) that’s where they’d [saints] be for seven days.

 

He talked about the Days of Unleavened Bread but kept calling it Passover to keep the confusion meter fully tilted into the red.

 

 

Naturally, nobody can whisper the word Passover within one hundred feet of Headquarters without Dave pointing out how special he is.

 

@ 1:41:51 The Jews set a place for Elijah on Passover.

 

@ 1:42:03 I thought to myself, “What am I missing? My last name is Passover. My name isn’t David Abib 1.” And I’m trying to figure out why would God give me the name Passover if it’s Abib 1. Well, it isn’t Abib 1.

 

His name is not Passover. A well-meaning Worldwide Church of God old-timer thought he could inspire a naïve young man to help build his excitement for Armstrongism and went to his grave, never grasping the damage he did to that arrogant kid’s mental state.

 

Why is David C. Pack corrupting Passover? To make his latest Kingdom structure and dates work.

 

@ 1:47:23 Well, it fits perfectly if it’s Abib 15 and it’s Passover. It doesn’t fit a New Moon. Doesn’t fit Abib 1. It fits Abib 15. Kingdom of God would come on April 13th [2025].”

 

@ 1:48:59 I’ma tell ya this list is ironclad. There’s no shifting it anymore. Or Christ’s first great act is to break the law of God and blaspheme the Passover.

 

@ 1:49:22 I don’t care if we waited ten more years or I died in the faith, I’ll never move off of that day. I'm no longer haunted, and I feel good that I've been able to tell all of the brethren, "We are waiting for Abib 15 next year for the Second Kingdom."

 

@ 1:50:28 So, I’m just gonna say again, you cannot sit there and argue that 1,007 years till earth is gone will all begin on Abib 15. That’s impossible to argue. Or we serve an unlawful, disobedient Savior, and God will let Him get away with it.

 

David C. Pack is a bald-faced liar. It is not just what he does but who he is. The Restored Church of Another god teaches a counterfeit Jesus Christ taking a counterfeit Passover. This teaching is sinister and defies all logic when the Bible quickly proves it to be false.

 

The Passover is observed on Abib 14, not Abib 15. The Second Passover is Iyar 14, not Iyar 15.

 

David C. Pack’s Passover corruption is not just some human aspect of his terrible reading comprehension skills. He is a false teacher blatantly breaking the Scriptures by vomiting outrageous heresy in a peacefully quiet room filled with human idol-worshippers who accept the words of a man over the words of God.

 

David C. Pack has given heed to seducing spirits, and his end shall be according to his works.



Marc Cebrian

See: David C. Pack's Passover Corruption