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Monday, April 22, 2024

Dave Pack: Strange Leading the Strange

 


Strange-r Danger

David C. Pack is an expert on the topic of strange ideas. He is obsessed with distorting Bible doctrines, perverting them into an abomination of his own corrupted imagination. The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God clearly sees the reasons for his prophetic failures and dwindling membership. None of those reasons have anything to do with him because the answers are always external.

The wicked spirits in high places are very active in The Restored Church of God. Just not the way David C. Pack thinks.

According to him, the reason brethren flee his spiritually bankrupt organization always has some outside, nefarious cause. The devil seduced them. Their spiritual weakness revealed itself when their human nature pulled them away. They just followed their dumb wives out the door. They just want to go off and sin and eat pepperoni pizza.

They lack the faith to accept “The Greatest Unending Story!” Series is God ending the Mystery of God through His chosen human vessel. They lack patience because “This is taking too long.” They are high-minded because “Mr. Pack can’t get all the tiny details right.” They are rigid and unable to accept revealed knowledge because “This isn’t what Mr. Armstrong taught.”

He thinks leaving The Restored Church of God, “is as easy as sipping a cup of coffee.” Since I understand firsthand because I lived it, strange ideas like that broadcast that David C. Pack has no idea what he is talking about.

David C. Pack wants to believe every reason under the sun for why brethren leave RCG except for the one that is true: David C. Pack.

The Pastor General is a hypocritical blaspheming liar, false apostle, false teacher, and false prophet preaching antichrist doctrines that defy the Word of God. He weaponizes the Bible to manipulate minds and control them with fear. Love has waxed very cold inside RCG, and it stems from the central vortex of bitter madness: David C. Pack.

There is a thick darkness permeating Headquarters. The Series will never end because God is not guiding David C. Pack to teach his doctrinal debauchery. The Holy Spirit does not move David C. Pack to utter the words that cause him deeply troubled discomfort. He preaches a foolishly meandering, confusing cesspool of doctrinal filthiness presented as honey dripped from heaven.

People leave The Restored Church of God because they read and believe their Bibles. Hearing what David C. Pack says should be all anyone needs to discern if he preaches the truths of God.



During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 506),” on April 9, 2024, David C. Pack seized the opportunity to warn members from leaving the organization because they would forfeit their salvation and make the biggest mistake of their existence.

After proving for months that the Kingdom of God would arrive on Abib 1, April 8, 2024, only to have nothing happen, he knew he had to address the potential for even more people to flee.

Part 506 – April 9, 2024
@ 01:19:34 I I wonder if there is a very difficult period. I wanna inoculate you. If we do go through a very di–difficult period, Matthew 24 and Luke 12 have always suggested (let's hope I'm not reading it right) that some yet leave and kindle a fire and do not abide the day of Christ coming.

Matthew and Luke foretold some would leave RCG and cause trouble for them. Interesting.

@ 1:20:42 So, do Matthew 24 and Luke 12, some say, “My Lord delays his coming.” Kindle the fire is that the last unbelieving hypocrites among us who were purged by God?

A great David C. Pack irony is that he has been preaching for eight-and-a-half years that "My Lord delays his coming." With each prophetic failure, he has to preach why God gave the members more time. When David C. Pack moves the Kingdom of God's arrival from Abib 1 to Abib 15 to Iyar 1 to Tammuz 1, he is preaching to the brethren of The Restored Church of God, "My Lord delays his coming."

He is also letting people in the chairs know that if they leave, God is purging them. They are not leaving because they discern a fool and depart from his presence. They are not leaving because the Bible instructs everyone to not be afraid of false prophets. They are not leaving because Paul warned of false teachers. No, they want to leave because Jesus Christ is vomiting them out of His mouth.

This is cultish mind control. If you stay in your seat, you are NOT being purged by God.

@ 1:20:58 I watch people leave for for reasons so silly I I just can't even fathom it.

He is saying brethren who leave have no legitimate reasons for doing so. That is a lie. David C. Pack belittles anyone who disagrees with him because he cannot accept the reality that he is the direct cause of anyone's departure.

None of this is new.

Flashback Part 499 – March 21, 2024
@ 32:40 I watch people leave the church. We just had a little cluster of people leave the church because a serpent bit all of them. And and I watch ‘em, again, just like a a sip of coffee. They just let their salvation slip away. But, let’s read. I mean, would people do that? Did they hear the 500 hours? And the answer’s No. What then, why where they here? And they leave over some of the dumbest things.

Fleeing from a documented blaspheming liar false prophet is what the Bible teaches. People who DO hear the five hundred hours have more than enough information to discern the wisdom of leaving David C. Pack and The Restored Church of God.

Do not walk away. Run.

@ 38:14 And you’ll wonder how could anybody ever leave the only church who knows the things I’m showing you.

Things he would later show them are inaccurate, and have to re-invent the wheel as he has been doing for years.

@ 1:13:36 I’ve watched scores of thousand, I’ve said this over and over to people who will sit and hear me say it and blow it off like they never heard me say it. They must have a way of lying to themself.

When brethren finally do escape The Restored Church of God, it is because they DID hear the words of David C. Pack.

Another great David C. Pack irony is he lies to himself all day, every day. It is the only way he can stare perfect, consistent failure in the face and still cling to the lunatic fantasy that God is guiding him.

@ 1:14:57 We’ve had to wait twenty-five years. No wonder. Attacked, lied to, lied about, lied to, attacked. And people just, “Yeah, I’ll leave the church.” Like they snapped their fingers.

Since June 2022, the exrcg.org website has been dedicated to accurate and honest reporting on the happenings inside The Restored Church of God. David C. Pack is quoted correctly and in context. Video clips are provided when his delivery is coherent enough. He is not being lied about from here.

Flashback Part 500 – March 23, 2024
@ 1:47:01 You think you wanna be in this world? [chuckles] You know, we got people just too stupid to be a First Fruit—What? What? They leave. But I've watched it my whole life.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, and the heart of a loving shepherd just burst forth.

Flashback Part 501 – March 30, 2024
@ 10:47 And I've searched diligently, but somebody was supposta understand. You think if you think, “Well, I’m not the one,” well, then you better wait for some other David. Some people wouldn’t wait. “Mr. Pack, you figure out what thousands of prophets over centuries of their lives knew nothing of. If you figured out and if you don’t, I’m gonna leave.”

David C. Pack has a disturbed perception of the people who recognize his wickedness and depart from him. The paradoxical Pastor General is both an arrogant narcissist and a whimpering victim. He knows how to attack and pout at the same time.

 


Near the end of Part 506, Dave felt more comfortable laying harsher criticisms upon those who had already left as a warning to anyone else in the audience who might dare to follow.

The Romans crucified criminals and staged their bodies along the main road as a warning.

David C. Pack adopts the same philosophy.


Part 506 – April 9, 2024
@ 1:33:08 Eight and a half years just seemed too unreasonable, too strange for the self-righteous among us who were just above this, and they left. Followed their own lusts. They left. And I I started all of this to tell you a few more might. And what we've done is not so strange or hard, and that people who've quit, you should not think that's strange because people have been walking away from the way of God since the Garden.

@ 1:33:45 No other church on Earth knows about this Kingdom. 

The Kingdom that did not come on April 8. The Kingdom that has been changing for over eight years.

@ 1:34:21 This is 506 or 7, I guess. I could do it in a hundred messages and speak much less often. Maybe fewer people had left, but that iddn't, apparently, what God wanted. I kept thinking it was right and it was wrong. 

David C. Pack has NO IDEA what God wants. His consistent failures prove God is not backing him up.

@ 1:35:24 Life would've been more normal and maybe more people would've stayed that God did not want to stay because we had to be willing to go through this difficult period.

Could people remaining in The Restored Church of God thwart God's purpose? Imagine the implications.

@ 1:35:43 To leave the only church that sees it is far beyond foolish. One who does this is without excuse. You know what they believe? They reject the whole thing.

 


STOP
Do not miss this next sentence.

This is clinical proof that David C. Pack possesses a warped mind entirely disconnected from reality in 3…2…1…

@ 1:35:57 The fact that I got a date or two right wrong or something, or some detail wrong, but saw a kingdom nobody else could see.

A date or two? That perfectly encapsulates the mentality of David C. Pack. Talk about lying to yourself.

The homepage of exrcg.org hosts a tally of 79 failed dates proclaimed by David C. Pack, and that is only as of Tammuz 1, 2022. If there were "only two," not including the day before Dave uttered that stupid comment, we could start where it all began on Elul 24 in 2013 and throw in Esther's Fast “Night Watch” in 2019.

It is sometimes hard to fathom that David C. Pack believes his own words, considering how filled they are with lies. David C. Pack does not just speak lies. It is who he is.

@ 1:36:06 And you leave the only church that says that, you're probably gone. There is a fire that devours before the Father got here. There are people who are gonna be cutting two. They had to have rejected the whole thing because, you know, because “Mr. Pack couldn't get details right, I'm gonna go back into the world,” and most of 'em do go back into the world.

The Father will devour those who leave RCG with fire or cut them in two. That is a strong motivator to stay. According to David C. Pack, we all left because we rejected the details. What a foolish, deceived man he is.

@ 1:36:28 So, I wanted to say all of that because we might go through a bumpy period. Do what will not be strange is unbelieving hypocrites. Hypocrite means, in the Greek hupokritēs, it means a stage actor. There are people who are stage actors. Some are really good, like Judas, and you just cannot know it. 

Documented hypocrite David C. Pack is really bad at being a Judas because we can spot him easily.

 


Dave was proud of his 15-minute “strange” angle during Part 506. He set up why the Series was moving closer to nine years without the Kingdom of God in sight. It was not strange that people were leaving RCG because God wanted that. Just as God wanted the Series to drag on.

@ 1:21:07 First, let me say it's always seems strange to me that God required the Series to be so long for me to finally get the picture right. Always just seemed strange.

That would require God to be behind the Series. He is not. It would also require David C. Pack to “finally get the picture right," and he has not. Part 509 set an exclamation point above that.

Every week, he changes the picture and explains why the last right picture was actually the wrong picture because the new right picture is better than the last right picture, which is now wrong. Right?

@ 1:22:12 Now, speaking of strange, I want you to, God has us go through strange things. Isaiah walked for years with his bare bottom hanging out. Strange.

Dave frolics through the Bible to point out all the “strange” things God had people do. In his conclusion, he exploits these instances as a cover to explain away his own failings.

I will list a few of his points, let him conclude, then defeat his entire fifteen minute argument in a single sentence. Well, Dave actually defeated himself, but he did not realize it.

“Strange” Bible Occurrences
•  Isaiah walked bare-bottom
•  Jeremiah hid a belt in the rocks
•  Hosea married a whore
•  The Two Witnesses will walk in sackcloth
•  Ezekiel ate a scroll
•  Jonah was in a whale's belly
•  Israel marched around Jericho for seven days
•  Noah built an ark
•  Abraham instituted circumcision

You get the point. Dave presented fifteen minutes of that. And he was so excited about the perfect logic of it all and how warm that blanket must have felt while doing it.

@ 1:23:24 Those are all strange things that God has asked His people to do.

@ 1:26:23 Eight and a half years learning about a kingdom isn't all that strange.

@ 1:28:54 Those are the strangest things you get. That's why a lot of people laugh at the Bible because it's a God who requires things of people. Eight and a half years for a Series. Can you imagine the persecution I get that I don't even tell you about?

David C. Pack drew a line between strange things in the Bible and the Series creeping along. He had built for himself a sure house of excuses. Watch him defeat his entire argument in one of his own sentences.

@ 1:23:24 Those are all strange things that God has asked His people to do.

God did not ask, direct, command, commission, charge, instruct, inspire, or even suggest that David C. Pack teach any of the content in the Series. There could be ten thousand strange things listed in the Bible, but none apply to David C. Pack. God did not send him, yet he ran.

The greatest tool for defeating David C. Pack is accurately quoting David C. Pack.

That is not so strange.


Marc Cebrian
See: Strange-r Danger

The United States and Britain in Fantasy by Peter Ditzel


A Short Critique of Herbert W. Armstrong’s British-Israelism

The United States and Britain in Fantasy Peter Ditzel

Herbert W. Armstrong (1892-1986), one of the most popular and controversial radio and television evangelists of the twentieth century, was one of the better known proponents of the teaching known as Anglo- or British-Israelism.His most popular book on the subject was The United States and British Prophecy. According to this theory, there is a distinction between Jews and Israelites; the descendants of the Israelites are now the white, English-speaking peoples of Britain, the United States, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc., as well as the majority of the people living in northwestern Europe; the above nations are the Israel of Bible prophecy, and the British Royal family is Jewish and descended from King David of Israel.2

If any Worldwide Church of God doctrine can be considered Herbert W. Armstrong’s pet teaching more than any other, perhaps this is it. Armstrong was not, however, its originator. According to Ruth Tucker, the idea that British ancestry could be traced to ancient Israel originated in the seventeenth century with a man named John Sadler.3

Later, Canadian-born Richard Brothers (1757-1824) claimed a right to the British throne based on his assertion that he was a descendant of King David of Israel. Brothers was committed to an asylum. In 1840, a man named John Wilson published a restatement of Brothers’ ideas in Our Israelitish Origin. This restatement of the probably mentally deranged Brothers’ ideas served to popularize the view. In 1902, J. H. Allen wrote a book called Judah’s Sceptre and Joseph’s Birthright. J. Gordon Melton writes: "Through the efforts of Merritt Dickinson, who had read and accepted the arguments in Allen, Anglo-Israel thought entered the Church of God (Seventh Day) [though it was not accepted as an official teaching of that church]."Armstrong, once associated with the Church of God (Seventh Day), based his book The United States and British Commonwealth in Prophecy (later renamed The United States and Britain in Prophecy) largely on Allen’s book.

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As founder and "apostle" of the Worldwide Church of God, Armstrong considered British-Israelism to be one of most important doctrines in his church. Writing in the late 1970s of what he considered the treasonous watering down of the church’s teachings behind his back, Armstrong criticized those who tried to minimize this teaching: "Church teachings were being changed. The most resultful booklet of all, The United States and British Commonwealth in Prophecy, was attacked, greatly deleted and later put out of circulation."Armstrong ordered that the full-length version of the book be circulated once again.

As is all Anglo-/British-Israelism, Herbert W. Armstrong’s belief concerning the modern identity of Israel is heavily based on a mix of sloppy scholarship and pure myth. Yet, incredibly, Herbert Armstrong called this fantasy "the vital key necessary to unlock closed doors of biblical prophecy" and "the strongest proof of the inspiration and authority of the Holy Bible!" Armstrong even went so far as to claim, "It is, at the same time, the strongest proof of the very active existence of the living God!"6

The United States and Britain in Prophecy was one of Armstrong’s larger works and to refute it point-by-point would take a good-sized volume. Fortunately, it is not necessary for our purpose to go into every particular to prove Armstrong’s claims false. Picking out only a few points will suffice.

First, an examination of some of the myths that Armstrong preached will help convey the flavor of this wild hypothesis. One was that the tribe of Irish mythology that Armstrong continually misspelled as the "Tuathe De Danaan" or "Tuatha De Danaan" was Israel’s tribe of Dan having migrated to Ireland. Armstrong claims, "Tuatha De means the ’people of God.’ The name Dunn in the Irish language, for example, means the same as Dan in the Hebrew: judge."The implication is that the name of this Irish tribe identifies it as the biblical tribe of Dan.

In reality, Tuatha Dé Danann (correct spelling) means "people of the goddess Danu." In Irish legend, the Tuatha Dé Danann were the fourth race to invade Ireland. According to Françoise Le Roux and Christian-J. Guyonvarc’h writing in The Encyclopedia of Religion, "They came from the north, according to a very old Hyperborean tradition."Israel is, of course, not to the north of Ireland.

The accounts of the Tuatha Dé Danann sound like they are straight out of "sword and sorcery" fiction. Apparently so as not to ruin his

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credibility, Armstrong never related the entire legend. Notice these far-fetched highlights from the Encyclopedia of Religion: The Tuatha Dé Danann invade Ireland, take it from the Fir Bholg, and "defend it against the demonic Fomhoire." They divide the land with the Goidels, "the Goidels on the surface of the earth and the Tuatha Dé Danann within the hills and beneath the lakes...symbolic and concrete representations of the otherworld." When Lugh (the shining one) enters Tara, the Tuatha Dé Danann’s royal court, "he enumerates all his abilities to the doorkeeper druid and is allowed to enter precisely because he possesses together all the capabilities of the other gods."9

We have gone this far with the description only to impress the complete fantasy with which we are dealing. Yet this is one part of a doctrine that Armstrong says proves the existence of God!

After saying the tribe of Dan went to Ireland, Armstrong says that the prophet Jeremiah later joined them. According to this story, Jeremiah brought with him a stone that is supposedly the stone beneath the coronation chair in Westminster Abbey in London. British monarchs spend part of the coronation ceremony sitting on this chair with the stone beneath them. According to legend, this stone is "Jacob’s pillar stone," the stone upon which Jacob had his dream of a stairway to heaven on which angels were ascending and descending (Genesis 28:10-22).10 In reality, this stone has been proven to be from Scotland.11

Jeremiah also brought to Ireland, according to Armstrong, the daughter of Zedekiah, king of Judah. When this daughter married the son of the king of Ireland, the Jewish royal family descended from King David was successfully transplanted to the British Isles. Eventually this Jewish royal lineage entered the British Royal family. The lineage of Queen Elizabeth II, then, goes back to King David of Israel.12

All this is a twisted version of various legends. Yet, by this, Armstrong tries to prove that a descendant of King David is still sitting on a throne over the people of Israel (according to Armstrong, the British). This is based on Armstrong’s understanding of Jeremiah 33:17: "For thus saith the Lord; ’David shall never want [fail to have] a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel.’" After also quoting verses 25- 26, Armstrong writes: "Unless you can stop this old earth from turning on its axis—unless you can remove the sun and the moon and stars from heaven, says the Almighty, you cannot prevent Him from keeping His covenant to maintain continuously, through all generations,

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FOREVER, from the time of David and Solomon, a descendant of David in one continuous dynasty on that throne!"13

Armstrong’s conclusion is completely unsound, however. Jeremiah 33:18 continues from verse 17: "Neither shall the priests the Levites want [fail to have] a man before Me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually." Armstrong admits that the Levites do not offer sacrifice today: "But Jeremiah prophesied that Levites would always be available—in existence—who could offer sacrifices if there were a temple."14 Armstrong cannot have it both ways. If verse 18 refers to lineage and not activity, then so does verse 17.

Jeremiah 33:17 simply means that the lineage of David would be preserved, not that there would be no interruption in its ruling over the house of Israel. The reason it was to be preserved was to prove, as shown in the genealogies of Matthew and Luke, that Jesus Christ was of the line of David. And with Jesus Christ, Jeremiah 33:17 reached its ultimate fulfillment because the living Jesus Christ is the living, legitimate Heir to the throne. If the British monarchs were really sitting on the throne of David, they would be usurpers!

Armstrong’s entire case rests on his argument that the ancient northern Kingdom of Israel consisted of 10 of the tribes of Israel and that these were captured by the Assyrians and never returned. Armstrong emphasizes that while "Israel" might mean any or all of the tribes (including the Jews), "house of Israel" refers exclusively to the tribes of the northern Kingdom of Israel. The house of Israel remained distinct from the tribes living in the southern Kingdom of Judah—called Jews—and became known as the lost Ten Tribes.15 If we can prove that the house of Israel did not remain distinct from the Jews and that there is no such thing as the lost Ten Tribes, Armstrong’s teaching in The United States and Britain in Prophecy falls apart.

In Acts 2:14, Peter begins his inspired speech by saying: "Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem." A few verses later, in the same sermon and to the same people, Peter says, "Ye men of Israel, hear these words" (verse 22). He ends in verse 36 by saying to the same audience, "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, Whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ." To Peter, the men of Judæa, the men of Israel, and all the house of Israel were one and the same. Notice also that Peter equates those who crucified Jesus with all the house of Israel. Peter could not do this if the house of Israel were not even in Palestine at

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the time. The Jews were not just the tribes Armstrong says lived in the old southern Kingdom of Judah. The Jews included "all the house of Israel."

Even the words of our Lord prove that Armstrong’s distinction between the house of Israel and the Jews is false. In addressing the twelve apostles before sending them out on a mission, Jesus said in Matthew 10:5-6: "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Notice that the apostles were not to go to the Gentiles or Samaritans. These instructions must have been for the immediate mission at hand. They could not have applied to the apostles’ mission after Jesus’ resurrection because after His resurrection Jesus instituted through the apostles a ministry to the Gentiles.

Since the apostles could not go among the Gentiles and since they could not go into any city of the Samaritans and because they had physical limitations where they could go during this short mission, it is evident they went to the Jews in their immediate area. It is the Jews whom our Lord called the "lost sheep of the house of Israel," not tribes of Israel outside Judea.

Similar proof is found in Matthew 15. When approached by a Canaanite woman asking Him to heal her daughter, Jesus at first said nothing (verse 23). Then in verse 24 He answered, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." As can be seen throughout the Gospels, Jesus’ personal mission was to the Jews. Yet in Matthew 15:24, He calls those to whom He was sent the "lost sheep of the house of Israel." Jesus Christ considered the Jews to be the lost sheep of the house of Israel.16

But if, instead of being Israelites scattered among the nations and who had lost their identity, the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" were Jews who knew their identity, how were they lost? The "lost" refers to spiritual condition, not geographic disorientation. In Isaiah 53:6 we read, "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all." This agrees with Jesus’ parable in Luke 15 and Matthew 18 of the sinner symbolized by the lost sheep. As Jesus said in Matthew 18:11, "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

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Contrary to Herbert Armstrong’s pet idea, then, there is no distinction between the Jews and the house of Israel. And "lost" is a description of the spiritual condition of the house of Israel—the Jews—not of their physical whereabouts. How appropriate that while The United States and Britain in Prophecy is full of "fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith" (1 Timothy 1:4), the truth points to Jesus’ mission of salvation.

One last bit of evidence before closing this subject: After Jesus’ resurrection, God opened salvation to the Gentiles. But most members of the Worldwide Church of God and its daughter churches are white, English-speaking people and the people of northwestern Europe. This means that—using Armstrong’s British-Israelism definitions—most "true Christians" (that is, according to Armstrongism, members of the churches that teach the doctrines of Herbert Armstrong) are Israelites, physical descendants of Jacob (Israel). This contradicts the biblical teaching "that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25; see also 10:19; 11:11, 32; and Matthew 21:43). But the fantasy world of Herbert Armstrong aside, most Christians today are Gentiles, just as the Bible says they would be.

Notes

1. Some of the adherents of Anglo-Israelism are part of what is called the Identity Movement, which has ties to white supremacy and neo-Nazism. Armstrong was never associated with the Identity Movement, although people in it have sometimes used his writings to promote their cause.

2. Herbert W. Armstrong, "Seven Proofs of the True Church, [part one]," The Good News, November 20, 1978, pp. 13, 16. This information is also found throughout Herbert W. Armstrong’s The United States and Britain in Prophecy. The edition used for this critique is the ninth edition (Pasadena, CA: Worldwide Church of God, 1986), November 1986 printing.

3. Ruth A. Tucker, Another Gospel, Alternative Religions and the New Age Movement (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 1989), p. 207.

4. J. Gordon Melton, Encyclopedic Handbook of Cults in America, (New York: Garland Publishing Inc., 1986), p. 53.

5. Herbert W. Armstrong, "What Is a Liberal?", The Worldwide News, February 19, 1979, p. 3.

6. Armstrong, The United States and Britain in Prophecy, pp. 2-3.

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7. Ibid., p. 98.

8. Mircea Eliade, ed., The Encyclopedia of Religion, Vol. 15, (New York: MacMillan Publishing Company, 1987), s.v. "Tuatha Dé Danann."

9. Ibid.

10. Armstrong, The United States and Britain in Prophecy, pp. 98-102.

11. Melton, Encyclopedic Handbook of Cults in America, p. 59.

12. Armstrong, The United States and Britain in Prophecy, pp. 100-102.

13. Ibid., pp. 55-57.

14. Ibid., p. 56.

15. Ibid., pp. 64-71.

16. Jesus’ mentioning in John 10:16 of "other sheep...which are not of this fold" is a reference to the Gentiles.

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Wednesday, March 6, 2024

The Easiest Dating of The Exodus: A National Origins and Founding Myth




Ten Reasons Why the Bible’s Story of the Exodus is Not True
And why it really matters.

Full article here

Note: Edited for brevity here. The entire article is at the link above.

The story of the Exodus, in conjunction with others in the first five Books of the Old Testament, often referred to as the Books of Moses, the Torah or the Pentateuch, has been the foundation for three major religions and some minor ones.

History has many examples of nations, cities, ethnic groups and even families who proclaim their origin based on a mythological story or a highly exaggerated one. These “founding stories” seek to unify and exalt their group. Such stories in no way make the reality of their existence illegitimate.

Many quotes and links from Jewish Rabbis and Israeli archeologists and historians will be cited throughout this article. There are some Biblical literalists (both Jewish and Christian) who maintain that the Exodus took place exactly as the Bible states. Their main argument is that the lack of archaeological and historical evidence does not rule it out.

However, as we will see, most experts and scholars dismiss the story as mythology. While some of them still maintain a faith in God, they interpret their origin story as a metaphor or presentation, just as many Christians, who acknowledge the fact of evolution and contradictions in the Bible, view them as being far less important than “the greater truth.” They say it is the power of the sweeping epic that lies in its profound and timeless message about freedom and not whether it is based upon literal historical facts.

Rabbi David Wolpe, Sinai Temple’s senior rabbi interviewed By the Los Angeles Times, said: “The truth is that virtually every modern archeologist who has investigated the story of the Exodus, with very few exceptions, agrees that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all.”

Rabbi Lawrence Hoffman, the distinguished professor of liturgy at Hebrew Union College, in his article titled “The Bible is Fiction,” did not discuss history or archeology, but argued more broadly that the Books of Moses are fiction because their authors meant it not as science or history but as presentation. (National Origins Story)

William Dever, a convert to Judaism, and a professor of Near Eastern archeology and anthropology at the University of Arizona and one of America’s preeminent archeologists argued that “the Exodus story was produced for theological reasons: to give an origin and history to a people and distinguish them from others by claiming a divine destiny.”

Even if we ignore all these scholars and experts, there are many reasons why the very words of the Biblical account itself make the story of the Exodus implausible.

1. No evidence in history or in the ground: 

The story of the Exodus only appears in the Hebrew Bible/the Christian Old Testament and nowhere else. Not in Egyptian history, nor in any other history. Despite decades of extensive archaeological endeavors, not one trace of it has ever been found. This story describes over two million people escaping from Egypt and spending 40 years in the wilderness. That is more than twice the population of Jerusalem today. Almost all archaeologists, including those in Israel, acknowledge that it could not have possibly happened without significant evidence being left behind; yet not a trace has ever been found, even after numerous and extensive attempts to prove the historicity of this event.

 

2. An implausible start: 

The Bible tells us that all two million plus of them were informed that the very next day, they would be escaping from Egypt and had to immediately get prepared. (see Exodus 11:2–4 and Exodus 12:21–24)

In one day, over two million people, in Egypt, a very large county with no telephones or radios, were all contacted and instructed to collect treasure from their masters and then to kill a one-year old male lamb and smear its blood on the door posts of their house that night. Obviously, these slaves were apparently wealthy, as they all had houses with doors and a sizable herd of sheep so that each family was able to pull an unblemished, one-year old male lamb from it. In a normal flock of sheep, about 20% are one year old…half of those would be males.

3. A really long line: 

Two and a half million people would have created a line well over 200 miles long (at eight abreast with only three feet between each row) along with their animals, of which the Bible says they had many. They also took along much treasure. Many would have been with babies, pregnant, crippled, blind, or bedridden, and yet a line of people extending over 200 miles long were able to outrun the Egyptian army who were chasing them with chariots and horses, all in a single day and night.

Orthodox Jewish scholar Lawrence Schiffman, chairman of Hebrew and Judaic studies at New York University, said, “you’d have to be a bit crazy to accept that figure” when asked about the number of escaped slaves recorded in the Torah.

4. A load beyond measure: 

Despite the Bible saying elsewhere that they only took food wrapped in their shoulder sleeves and some treasure they obtained from the Egyptians, we see soon after this one day escape that they all had tents to live in, along with tools and weapons. They also had plenty of wood for the many required daily sacrifices that their God demanded. We see in Exodus 29:25 “You shall take them from their hands, and offer them up in smoke on the altar on the burnt offering for a soothing aroma before the Lord; it is an offering by fire to the Lord.” God loved the sweet soothing aroma of the burning animals after they were just slaughtered as it floated up to His dwelling place; which is described elsewhere as actually being the floor of the sky (firmament) where the rain and snow are stored.

Exodus chapters 35 and 39 describe numerous other items they had to have in order to build the tabernacle which was built in the center of each camp including such things as 48 15-foot solid beams overlaid with gold, and dozens of other items. Where did all of these things come from? Numbers Chapter 7 states they had six carts pulled by oxen that moved those items from camp to camp.

5. Unrealistic hygiene requirements: 

Deuteronomy 23:12–14 says, “You shall also have a place outside the camp and go out there, and you shall have a spade among your tools, and it shall be when you sit down outside, you shall dig with it and shall turn to cover up your excrement. Since the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp to deliver you and to defeat your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy; and He must not see anything indecent among you or He will turn away from you.”

For those living near the center of camp, it would probably require a couple of miles each way, given the estimate of the population, animals and bare-bone infrastructure. 

6. Moses did not write any of the Torah: 

It is very easy to confirm and to understand why the overwhelming majority of Biblical scholars today have determined that the “Books of Moses,” the first five books in the Old Testament, were not written until during or after the post-exilic period (later than 586 B.C.E.) and absolutely not by Moses, who would have died many centuries before… that is, had he been a real person. ...

7. There are many anachronisms: 

Many locations named in this story were not even in existence at that alleged time, clearly proving the story was developed at a much later time than it claims to be. This is called an anachronism, one of several factors that scholars use in dating old manuscripts. An example would be a story claiming to be written at the time of George Washington but referencing a city named Seattle or referring to things such as radios. That would be proof positive that the author was not telling the truth about when it was being composed.

Moreover, specialists in the Hebrew Bible say that the Exodus story is riddled with internal contradictions stemming from the fact that it was spliced together from several texts written at different times. One passage in Exodus, for instance, says that the bodies of the pharaoh’s charioteers were found on the shore, while the next verse says they sank to the bottom of the sea.

Another is that the Edomite kings listed in Genesis 36 did not live until a time well after Moses would have died. For more detail, see Book of Joshua.

8. What would it take infrastructure wise for a community of 2,500,000 to function?

After 40 years in the wilderness, Joshua and Caleb were the only two still alive from the original 2,500,000 who escaped. The Bible indicates that the population after the 40 years was nearly the same. (603,500 before vs 601,730 after the 40 years of men over 20 years old who were able to go to war).

This problem needs little if any comment. Water distribution in the desert would require an amazing network of wells, cisterns, and piping, assuming you can find the water to begin with.Since their food was rained down for them as manna, we can skip that necessity. Sanitation would be huge, manufacturing of clothes for those born in the wilderness, hospitals, first aid stations, schools, day care, where to gather wood for the many daily sacrifices (in the desert), medicines, soap, blankets or sleeping bags for those cold nights, and countless oth er needs that cannot be ignored. Factories and mining facilities were needed as they all had spades, tools, and weapons....

9. Can the earth ever stop spinning? 

As a climax to the Exodus was the alleged conquest of Canaan. The Bible claims that God literally stopped the sun for 24 hours so that Joshua could defeat the enemy while there was still light. Physics is clear; if the earth abruptly stopped spinning for even a second, all people, animals, rocks, topsoil, trees, buildings, and so on, would be swept away into the atmosphere. No where in the world is there any record of this long day.

10. Parallels of earlier known writings: 

Mythological stories are usually built around superheroes. The story of the Exodus was written during the Babylonian captivity where most of the Jewish captives assimilated into its culture. Many did not return when King Cyrus decreed them the right to. The fact is, many liked it there and were well settled and comfortable. What were the priests to do?

One of the most famous kings known to that history was the Akkadian King Sargon. He was called Sargon the Great who conquered among other places, Mesopotamia and the Levant. He established the first real empire. He was well known in Babylonian literature and was a famous legend due to his birth story and great leadership. Note how the writers gave Moses those same attributes. Here is a brief account of his Sargon’s birth and deeds:

The following worn translation of the legend comes from J.B. Pritchard’s The Ancient Near East Volume I, pages 85–86. It reads: (The legend of Sargon)

Sargon, the mighty king, king of Agade, am I.

My mother was a changeling, my father I knew not.

The brother(s) of my father loved the hills.

My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates.

My changeling mother conceived me, in secret she bore me.

She set me in a basket of rushes, with bitumen she sealed

My lid.

She cast me into the river which rose not (over) me,

The river bore me up and carried me to Akki, the

drawer of water.

Akki, the drawer of water lifted me out as he dipped his

e[w]er.

Akki, the drawer of water, [took me] as his son

(and) reared me.

Akki, the drawer of water, appointed me as his gardener,

While I was a gardener, Ishtar granted me (her) love,

And for four and [ … ] years I exercised kingship,

The black-headed [people] I ruled, I gov[erned];

Mighty [moun]tains with chip-axes of bronze I con-

quered,

The upper ranges I scaled,

The lower ranges I [trav]ersed,

The sea [lan]ds three times I circled.

Dilmun my [hand] cap[tured],

[To] the great Der I [went up], I [. . . ],

[ . . . ] I altered and [. . .].

We now understand why the writers of these five books developed its main character, Moses, into someone the people could identify as being a great superhero. The same birth story as Sargon’s along with many miraculous stories and fearful commandments saying that if they followed this God, all would be wonderful, but if not, there would be nothing but dreadful pain. The writers had an extremely hard task in motivating the people to return and become unified and this story of their alleged origin was key.

The writers knew that if there was going to be a unified people, a people who were enjoying the safety of another culture and other gods; they would have to be separated from “the snares of the world,” so the “carrot and stick” approach was utilized.

This story included many acts of genocide to accomplish two main goals: the obtaining of sacred land areas, and as the Bible says, to free them from being tempted by foreign women and gods.

We conclude with several more quotes from Rabbis and Jewish scholars:

Again, from William Dever, the professor of Near Eastern archeology and anthropology at the University of Arizona said; “The Exodus story was produced for theological reasons: to give an origin and history to a people and distinguish them from others by claiming a divine destiny.”

Ze’ev Herzog continued, “Scholars have known these things for a long time, but we’ve broken the news very gently, the old emphasis on trying to prove the Bible has given way to more objective professionals aiming to piece together the reality of ancient lifestyles.”

“Among Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist Jews, there is a much greater willingness to see the Torah as an extended metaphor in which truth comes through story and law,” said Rabbi Bradley Shavit Artson, dean of the Ziegler School of Rabbinic Studies at the University of Judaism in Los Angeles.

The first mention of Israel in recorded history is ironic. It was engraved by the Egyptian Pharaoh on the famous Merneptah Stele dated to 1205 B.C.E., about two centuries after Israel would have been well settled in Canaan.

,,,,

Not one trace of evidence after decades of diligent investigation with the most advanced technological tools.

Not one word in Egypt’s history recording anything connected with the Bible’s account. And not one word from any other surrounding nations or states (or private historian) who would have gladly published the destruction of a mighty army by runaway slaves. That is why few scholars will defend the Bible’s account of it.

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Thursday, February 15, 2024

Crackpot Prophet Getting All Bollocky About Red Heifers


 

Our one and only self-anointed, narcissistic, dream machine of idiocy is back today hyperventilating over 5 red heifers that a Christian farmer from Texas sent to Israel recently. This kind of irrelevant lunacy that certain crackpot prophets of the Church of God focus their energy upon shows how spiritually bankrupt they are as so-called church leaders.

The leader of any church organization anywhere on earth (Church of God or mainstream Christianity) knows, or should know that their focus should be upon the ONE the claim to follow and not on idiocy concerning made-up prophecies and/or myths and legends of various peoples groups.

Being a follower of Jesus Christ is not a priority of the current flock of crackpot Church of God leaders. Look at the topics of their sermons, booklets, magazine articles, and website posts and you will not see Jesus mention all that much, and if he is, it is a byline towards the end of a booklet or article and then only as proof that he kept Torah perfectly.

Ask the blubbering fools about the law and they can preach and write till hell freezes over and when it does will still have more to say about it. Talk about Jesus and the things that were accomplished and you can hear a pin drop in the local Union or Masonic Lodge hall.


5 Red Heifers and Year 5783?

The Temple Institute announced that “5 perfect, unblemished red heifers arrived in Israel from the USA” on September 15, 2022.. Chanan Kupietzky, an Orthodox Jewish teacher, pointed out that last year was 5781 in the Jewish calendar, pointing to the year these red heifers were conceived, 5782 is when they were to arrive in Israel, and that the year beginning sunset September 25, 2022 is supposedly 5783, which is supposed to be the year of red heifer redemption. Is that the correct year anno mundi (year of the earth) or is 5989 to 5992 more in line with history? What about the claimed Shemitah year? Might the appearance of a proper red heifer encourage the Sanhedrin to begin regular animal sacrifices? Might political considerations result in the resumption of animal sacrifices? Does the Bible show that animal sacrifices in Israel will be stopped? Does possibly having a red heifer mean that a massive Jewish temple is about to be rebuilt in Jerusalem? Do Christians need the sacrifice of Jesus or the blood of a red heifer to be purified? How close do we seem to be for Daniel 9:27b to be fulfilled?

If it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, it doesn't.  


 

 


Tuesday, February 13, 2024

COGWA Is Looking Into Building An Auditorium And Education Center

 


The greatest Church of God to ever exist in human history that is based out of a little itty-bitty storefront in Grover Beach, CA just got its delicate little toes stepped on again.

Church of God a Worldwide Ass. is now looking to find ways to build another mini-me auditorium and campus. More useless things to bleed the pockets dry of church members. Poor Bob, all he's got to show for his efforts is a leaking storefront on a side street in Grover Beach, CA.

COGWA had this to say:

I don’t have any news on the potential for adding an auditorium and education center on our current property. We are still waiting on five different contractors for bids on the actual costs. Originally, when we secured the services of Alliance Architects, we were given an estimated amount for the cost of construction, which was easily affordable and would not put the Church in any financial difficulty. We now need to confirm those numbers before we can decide whether or not to move forward. Hopefully, we will have an answer before the end of January. Thank you for your support and for your prayers that God will guide us in these important decisions.

Gerald Flurry built his mini-me auditorium and started a little concert series, Dave Pack tried to build an Auditorium and Student Center for the amazing university he was going to build. It flopped, just like his television studios did. Now, all the most amazing COG in human history has to offer is a little leaking storefront where God has no longer placed his protection.

With no way of adequately training his so-called ministers, he has to rely upon Seventh Day Adventists, Church of God Seventh Day trained ministers, and a few witch doctors to do his work.

All of these splinter groups imagine they are doing mighty works in line with how Herbert Armstrong did it. Herbert Armstrong had a charisma that absolutely NONE of these splinter group leaders do. No COG splinter group has ever and will NEVER reach the same scale that the Mother Church did in the 60's-late 80's. It hasn't happened and will never happen. 

Saturday, February 10, 2024

"David C. Pack is gunning for the office of Village Idiot"

 


Eating Words

Imagine someone going on a very long theological Apology Tour but without the apologies. That best describes David C. Pack during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 492)” on February 3, 2024.

After a two-week self-sequestering, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God spent 89 minutes discrediting his own doctrines while draping them with the thin veil of new, exciting knowledge.

Half of “The Greatest Untold Story!” has been disputing the other half. Until Part 492. The scales are now tipped to 60% of the Series, being a rejection of the rest.

Has anyone ever lived who loves to eat his own words more than David C. Pack? If his legendary verbal blunders were thoroughly documented, he could quickly fill a volume of Encyclopedia Britannica.

David C. Pack debunks David C. Pack before a live studio audience for sixteen minutes.

Starting thirty seconds into Part 492, Hangry Dave feasted upon his own mutable words, proving how very easy to argue against himself was highly possible.

Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 00:28 When do years begin? Were WE right to think that it’s Passover? Is this right? Or is it close? Now, we’re gonna take another look at this. Some pretty exciting things are gonna come out tonight.

When Dave posses the question, you already see the coming answer. A host of rolling eyeballs swayed in the Main Hall as members scribbled in their notebooks, anticipating the words across the page soon to be eaten.

@ 01:36 Let’s begin to flesh out what a year is. It’s gonna be more important than you can imagine by the time we’re done.

@ 03:33 So, to God, a year is twelve months… Now, the first month wouldn’t start from the middle of Abib. You know, I been battling this for a long time. That’s why it took some extra time before bringing this in.

Dave begrudgingly accepted that a year is, in fact, twelve months. I wonder if the sky cracked open with light rays as an angelic choir sang for joy when this jolted him out of bed. Yes, learning such revelations is how the brethren of The Restored Church of God spend their Sabbaths.

@ 04:01 But, it comes down to accepting that there are twelve months in a year.

David C. Pack admits that years begin at the beginning of the first month. His keen prophetic perception caught up with the children napping on blankets at their parents’ feet. Thus, for 89 minutes on February 3, 2024, the Feast of Backpedaling was officially observed at The Restored Church of God.

The Prophetic All-You-Can-Eat Word Buffet opened, and False Elijah was the only one in line. 


While I worked at RCG’s Headquarters, David C. Pack’s continual clarifying reversals forced me to change how I took notes during Services. It became my personal coping mechanism for tolerating two- to three-hour messages three to four days a week.

Absolute misery is sitting in that frigid Main Hall, listening to Dave eat his own words from the previous message. Sometimes, even the next day. Week after week. Month after month. Year after year.

Instead of writing down what he expected us to, I began recording his stupidest comments and the Bible verses that refuted him. Sometimes, those verses were on the very page he was reading from. He blathered for minutes while I stared at the one verse he refused to read that would have abruptly ended his mistaken enthusiasm.

Relief would come when Dave finally accepted he was wrong about XYZ, just as I had noted the moment the false words fell from his ignorant lips. The exrcg.org website is an amplification of my personal process for sanity preservation.

A growing number of current RCG members refuse to listen to David C. Pack. Some brethren learn here what the Pastor General teaches. For real.

Many words Dave taught recently are eaten in Part 492, even though he does not present it that way.

Flashback Part 489 – January 6, 2024
@ 35:48 But, we do know (and this is impossible to argue). This is impossible to argue because it’s literally going forward…The seven years and a thousand absolutely, immutably impossible to argue those begin on the first night of Passover.

Eat up, Dave.

@ 37:49 Now, I ask again, have years always been from Abib 15? We know they will always be going forward. Inarguable.

Eat.

@ 1:42:02 Lacking something akin to an oracle, the Series is officially done.

Okay. Maybe that is cheating. He already ate those words during Part 490.

Flashback Part 490 – January 13, 2024
@ 20:52 Midst of the years. It very difficult because every year since the Garden has been the same. It’s Passover to Passover.

Eat.

@ 50:59 …every year will start at Passover. That’s why God had to (over these recent weeks) get me to see that.

Falsely using God’s name and deceptively speaking with God’s authority, David C. Pack proves that God had nothing to do with his understanding. Eating words that he claims God inspired should be the most frightening to anyone paying tithes to that spiritually corrupt organization.

@ 1:43:33 …and watch everything get cleared up. So, that’s pretty obvious that we’re right on track, but just not in the way we thought because what God is gonna do is infinitely better.

The Restored Church of God could not be further off-track with a blaspheming liar promoting doctrines of antichrist preaching about himself on the Sabbath, proving he is a human idol.

 Flashback Part 491 – January 20, 2024
@ 17:37 Elijah is raised to restore all things. Would restore all things include a temple?

Eat.

@ 52:16 Now, I'm actually gonna show you…the Bible tells you explicitly the day that this temple is built before you get to Passover.

Eat.

@ 1:10:14 Years start on the middle of a month at Passover. That’s a big key.

@ 1:18:13 So, let me explain that this Passover becomes a powerful juncture.

@ 1:39:06 But now you have a hard, fast deadline. It’s a line in the sand. 

Eat. Eat. Eat. Those are only a few samples of the words David C. Pack ate during Part 492. As he continued the message, the leftovers were found further back in the fridge.


Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 04:41 …and months always began on the fifteenth? Now, that didn’t work. But I, ‘course, I’m gotta come to why I thought Passover was the day that the Kingdom began.

@ 05:57 But I’m I was trying to be faithful to something that I saw.

In The Restored Church of God, it is now acceptable for the Pastor General “to be faithful” to fraudulent imaginary ideas. But you better not try that, brethren.

@ 06:04 So, Creation [chuckles], think about it. Would’ve been Abib 1. God didn’t start the world on the fifteenth of a month. And I it bothered me terribly. But, I was trying to be faithful to the Passover Christ said we’ll take the Passover that day “in My Father’s Kingdom.”

So, David C. Pack was not technically to blame. The ambiguous words Jesus Christ uttered caused Dave’s confusion. There are always excuses as to why this, that, and the other turned out to be false.

@ 09:45 “…that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s Kingdom.” That just means the designated day. It does not mean the Father’s Kingdom came on Passover. And, by the way, would it be the 14th or the 15th anyway? …It does not say the Kingdom came that day. Took me a long time to see it.

The Kingdom of God arriving this Passover? Eat.

Jesus Christ takes the Passover symbols on Abib 15? Eat.

@ 10:32 So, it does not mean the Kingdom comes on Passover. The Kingdom of God comes two weeks before that.

@ 11:14 And that bothered me terribly. How could that be? Utter chaos. Utter chaos on the Passover. But, if the Passover were kept two weeks later, everybody could be ready for it.

The Day of the Lord occurs on Passover? Eat.

@ 13:39 In Colossians 2:16, the apostle Paul said New Moons are a shadow of a thing to come. Passover's a full moon. New Moon is a shadow. Now, the church already the church, at least (and I think God understood this with Mr. Armstrong). The church always kept Trumpets. So, the church always did keep one New Moon and that was one reason many thought the Kingdom would come on Trumpets.

The shadow Paul wrote of was Passover? Eat.

@ 16:15 I assumed that because they were there for a while, it was natural, “It must be Passover.” They’ve got seven days. No.

Dave assumed a natural conclusion that was utterly false. The Power of Presumption is strong with this one. And he keeps screaming this to the brethren. Why do they not listen?

All of that was just in the first sixteen minutes.


I remember learning in The Restored Church of God that positions of authority were granted from above, and men are not to seek them out. In God's Government, "Offices are given. They are not taken."

Despite that, David C. Pack is gunning for the office of Village Idiot.

As Dave started on his new biblical fixation, he foolishly repeated the same mistakes he had winced past for sixteen minutes. It is painful to witness. After eating his own words because of his presumptions heaped unto heaven, the man reapplies the same broken logic to his next big thing.

@ 18:46 …and it’s yearly. It’s every year. It kinda sounds suspicious. Like hmm. Is this potentially, maybe, or we talkin' about the start of a year? Hmm. Maybe.

@ 19:43 You might just pause and say, “What’s the most natural time you would offer a yearly sacrifice?” Probably the start of a year.

If you have an annual physical, it does not mean you do it on the first day of the year. Something happening each year does not prove it occurs at the start of the year. That concept escapes Dave.

Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy must be too frightened to offer sound logic to their human idol. Maybe by now, Jim and Andy consider it a good day if they do not get yelled at. Rational thought is banned from the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium.

Presumptuous conclusions for a future word-gorging in 3…2…1…

@ 29:11 Now, that’s powerful knowledge. It changes a lot of things.

@ 29:33 This’ll tell you the Day of the Lord is absolutely Abib 1.

@ 34:00 Again, this is revelatory knowledge. I’m giving you the Scriptures.

@ 35:11 The midst of the years has to be Abib 1. There’s no other time you can have it.

@ 35:54 So, Abib 1 is always the midst of the years. Always.

Hangry Dave loves to eat his cold leftovers.

Flashback Part 482 – November 30, 2023
@ 1:40:03 The midst of the years, it has to be Cheshvan 1 or Abib. Abib will not work.

If Dave could eat pictures, he would want to consume this whether the midst was Cheshvan 15 or 20. Everything he has taught about this before has been eaten.


Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 37:38 But I hope by now, it’s impossible to believe that years do not begin on Abib 1, and all iterations of the Kingdom begin on Abib 1, and all years since the Garden into eternity have been Abib 1.

@ 38:23 Go up year to year. Add sacrifices. Abib 1. So, there’s no arguing with that anymore. Not that anybody would want to.

Well, about that. A future David C. Pack may have some stern words on this topic.


The further Dave went, the more historic the words he ate. He wolfed down hours of content in seconds.

@ 1:02:05 “And the messenger of the covenant, whom you delight in: behold, he shall come.” Whether that’s Elijah or Christ (it looks like it’s Elijah, but there’s a case that it’s Christ), dun-make any difference, they’re both there. There are, they're all there, and you're there, too. [laughs] We’re all there.

Stop.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dave is no longer sure HE is the Messenger of the Covenant? Wow.

Dave rushed to call this out, ignoring all the outstanding "cascade learning" of Part 466 like he was snatching a donut off the counter on his way to a meeting.

Flashback Part 466 – September 7, 2023
@ 24:52 "And the Messenger of the Covenant, whom you delight in." We gotta talk about that.

@ 42:48 God’s people delight in a coming Elijah. We all talked about him. This is a man that people delight in.

Eaten.

An RCG principle is, “If someone is not sure they are the True Church, they cannot be the True Church.” A man is either written about in the Bible or not. Now, Dave is not sure that is him. Double-wow.

The more alarming implication is that whether a Bible verse applies to Jesus Christ or an ordinary man, it “dun-make any difference” to the leadership of The Restored Church of Another god.

So, brethren could be reading about their Savior or Pastor General David C. Pack, and it does not matter. Even those half-asleep in RCG should be concerned about that.

Are they reading about Jesus Christ or the Antichrist? According to Dave, it dun-make any difference.


Dave admitted he might not be the Messenger of the Covenant but doubled down elsewhere.

Part 492 – February 3, 2024
@ 1:09:24 "…and the counsel of peace shall be between them both." Well, the only two people who’ve been mentioned are God and Elijah. So, the Father’s there while His house is being built.

David C. Pack will work directly with the Father even though Elijah is not mentioned a single time in Zechariah.

@ 1:10:50 "The mountain of the Lord's House is set up, and all nations flow to it."

@ 1:11:02 But, it’s built after He gets here. It’s not waiting for him on Abib 1.

The Temple is built by David C. Pack before Jesus Christ returns on Passover? Eat.

@ 1:14:13 So, the Temple is now obviously built all while God’s here.

In your face, ALL of Part 491! Eaten. The power of Dave compels you!


Jesus Christ was scheduled to return at sunset on April 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM ET. Have those words also been eaten?

@ 1:11:39 But, God’s gonna let all human beings who have ever lived build that house. Maybe starting Abib 1. Maybe starting before that.

@ 1:16:42 But, I am not sure, and I'm not gonna declare that we wait till Abib 1. We’re to watch. Because the event that’s coming is a thief event.

@ 1:23:28 I just don’t know. I know that it’s not long after the Series is done.

@ 1:26:12 If you ask me, “Mr. Pack, could you give me an opinion?” All I can do is give you an opinion. I suspect…I suspect we’re waiting to the only day I know of that cannot tarry. That will surely come. And that’s the coming of the next year.

Hint. Hint. Abib 1. Wink. Wink. The golden days of Dave emphasizing, “Brethren, you don’t want Mr. Pack’s opinion,” are long dead.

Part 492 was an 89-minute Feast of Backpedaling that chewed up doctrines of the past. Oh, the joys that Part 493 will contain.



David C. Pack is a prophetic bulimic vomiting into and eating from the same bowl. This has been the case since 2013.

The original title, “The Greatest Story Never Told!” was eaten.

The first thirty parts of the Series in Member Services were eaten.

Literature including "Is 'That Prophet' Alive Today?—The Rise of False Prophets," "I Will Send Elijah to Restore All Things," "Herbert W. Armstrong—His Life in Proper Prospective," and "The Bible's Difficult Scriptures Explained!," were all eaten.

Dozens of The World to Come episodes were eaten.

On and on it goes. Words eaten. Money eaten. Lives eaten.

That is the untold story of The Restored Church of Another god.

When there is no accountability, rampant corruption takes hold. Seducing spirits allow no rest for the brethren choosing to stay there.

Eat. Vomit. Eat. Vomit. Eat. David C. Pack will not stop this custom anytime soon.

And I will not be eating my own words about that.

 


Marc Cebrian