This is what we paid for: The Herbert Armstrong Accomplishment Traveling Autobiography Lecture

PGR - Nov 20, 1974

Quotes from an HWA Head of State Meeting in a Cairo Testimonial Dinner 

Times Jesus Christ mentioned? 

None

Times the Gospel of Jesus Christ mentioned? 

None

Times the Accomplishments of HWA mentioned? 

MANY

"Quite often I cross paths with Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, but he works in an official capacity. I work in an unofficial capacity." 

"I'm glad you're going to get to see a little something of Prince Mikasaa. He's a very close friend of mine." 

"When King Leopold was visiting me in my home in Pasadena - and we were having quite a group in my home for dinner one evening" 

"He said he wanted to award that fourth watch to me"  

"Back in 1914, I pioneered in making a survey of business and social conditions in a little town of Kentucky in the United States.It was published in a national magazine." 

"In my early business life, I was thrown constantly in contact with successful men. I mean presidents and board chairman of our largest industrial corporations in the United States and the largest banks in New York and Chicago." 

"Well, I have solved a lot of these things" 

"I have solved the missing dimension" 

"Someday all of humanity is going to wake up to it." 

"I found the answer to many of them" 

"Get and give" 

"I've attended many businessman conventions" 

"I've found that two banks will look at each other with jealous eyes" 

"There was a great teacher who said it's more blessed to give than to receive."  

"I began to put that principle into practice 40 years ago. I've been giving ever since. I've been on the giving side and not the getting side. I have built three colleges and they're based on that principle, and we try to base all life on that principle."  

"Just recently Ambassador College won an award for the most beautiful, best landscaped, and best maintained campus of any college or university of the United States. And I think you'll pardon me if I'm just a little bit proud of that." 

"We have no friction between students and faculty or faculty and administration - nothing but cooperation." 

"There was one very wise man who wrote that everything is vanity anyway."
"Give or get." 

"But for 40 years now, I have been sharing the things that I have discovered and that I know... knowledge that religion has never given us... it's outside the scope of religion." 

"I've discussed these conditions with heads of state all over the world and I get quite a bit of input from them to add to this knowledge. It's cumulative."

This was no "Gospel of the Kingdom of God." This was the Herbert Armstrong Accomplishment Traveling Autobiography Lecture - on Giving, Getting, and The Missing Dimension in Education. He gave God NO Credit in his lectures for anything he learned at all. It was all Herbert. All the time. The Apostle Paul preached Christ and Him Crucified. Herbert Armstrong lectured heads of state on his accomplishments and what he learned - without substance, with much pride and boasting.

This is what we paid for.

submitted by...SHT

Yes, The Church was Aware of the Harm Their Sermons Were Doing to the Little Ones

PGR 11/20/74

submitted by...SHT

Brethren, I have no intention of trying to humiliate United Church of God but I am going to anyway because I am doing this out of "love and concern"

It is another fun day in the land of self-serving, self-appointed Church of God leaders.

The official Church of God Pharisee is hypocritically posting today that he is preempting the United Church of God's official paper on who the God of the Old Testament is and who the God of the New Testament is.  Brethren, rest assured that he is doing this out of 'love and concern." UCG has not even released anything, yet this self-serving fool knows more than they do.

We are going to need a big manure loader in order to clean up this pile of steaming hypocrisy!

Brethren, I have no interest in hurting the UCG CoE by waiting until they approve their Paper and then analyzing it.  Quite the contrary I have felt moved to compile and publish this study before the CoE approves a Paper in December.  This Paper is published in love and concern, and in the hope that they will consider these points as they produce and approve their own Position Paper. 

The end result of approving what they have been discussing is a drift into the Evangelical concept that the Mosaic Covenant was with the Father and the New Covenant is with Christ. 

This potential new position, and yes it is a radical change of existing teachings; establishes the foundation of the evangelical concept that the Father was the God of the Old Mosaic Covenant with its laws, while Jesus Christ came to establish a New, different and much better Covenant where the laws given to Moses are no longer obligatory.  

This potential heresy is the foundation of the gross error that the laws that God gave to Moses are optional and not obligatory in the New Covenant!  

Once the CoE adopts their final Position Paper they will send it to the elders instructing them to teach it.  

If they adopt anything similar to what they have discussed; over time as the heresy is accepted, it will do away with the obligatory nature of God’s instructions through Moses, just like the adoption of a similar position did for Joe Tkach. 

Brethren, please ask your elders to read this Paper and carefully consider before crafting and approving a final Position Paper on the subject.  

The following message has been sent to the UCG CoE.

For the Chairman and all Council Members
Chairman Ward
Members of the CoE

Gentlemen
Today I published a Paper on “The God of the Old Testament.” This exhaustive Paper was published in advance of your own deliberations, out of sincere love and concern, and in the hope that you will consider these points as you produce and approve your own Position Paper on the subject.

This is for Chairman Ward to use to clean up the Chief Pharisee's "love and concern"