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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
It is another day in COGland and I was looking for the latest wackadoodle comment by any COG minister, and one of them did not disappoint! These guys seem so eager to step up to the plate and make complete jackasses of themselves and because of that, I just have to post it.
This time it was the loyal sidekick to the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel, the self-appointed, nonCOG-ordained Chief Overseer of the greatest Church of God ever to exist outside of a delusional mind. Herbert Armstrong would be sooooooooooo proud!
Steve Dupuie is not happy! There seem to be a lot of ravenous wolves, flatters, and grumpy people in the ranks of the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god". The Great Bwana Bob Mzungu is constantly seeking to prove to us he has the most superfantabulous Church of God to ever exist. One that is filled with the most unified and spiritually mature Christians ever to walk this earth. We have all known this is a load of bunk for some time, even before we found out about the witch doctors, money laundering, and other nefarious activities going on in Africa.
Here is Steve, in his own words:
Ravenous Wolves and Grumblers
Steve Dupuie defines ‘ravenous wolves’ as those who are within the congregations of the true church, but they do not truly believe the truth–they also tend to want to draw members after themselves. He mentions that they are following Satan’s pattern. Steve Dupuie defined grumblers as those who are within the congregations of the true church, but who complain, as well as those who tend listen to talebearers who grumble about church leadership. He points out that God warns us through Jude and others. He stated that the Jesus warns of wolves and grumblers who are also not congregants; in the Book of Matthew–he says their only interest is to destroy the flock. Steve Dupuie mentions grumblers and flatterers that are prophesied to arise in these latter times from the Book of Daniel. He mentions that the time will come when the coming King of the North will turn against the Continuing Church of God. Steve Dupuie mentions that while they may not outwardly appear to be wolves and grumblers, we should be able to know them by their fruits.
Jesus Christ did not bring the Kingdom of God at sunrise, but Pastor General David C. Pack fully expects the brethren of The Restored Church of God to be generous with their Pentecost offerings this morning. Those green envelopes will provide a crucial infusion of funds to keep the Biblical Tall Tales Series right on track until the Feast of Trumpets in October.
Right about now, sad panda David C. Pack may be wondering what he missed for the 82nd time since March 2022 as his crack team of ghostwriters scramble to manifest a new narrative before the PM Announcements. But on the bright side, at least Dave is right about being Elijah. Or is he?
During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 515)” on June 1, 2024, David C. Pack told the brethren of The Restored Church of God that he was not Elijah (wink-wink) while providing evidence that he was Elijah.
Flashback Part 515 – June 1, 2024 @ 1:28:25 I’ve said to you, brethren, I am not Elijah.I’ve maintained that.
David C. Pack does not believe that. Not for a second.
He has verbally gone back and forth whether he is or is not Elijah the Prophet mentioned in Malachi 4:5. David C. Pack first announced he was Elijah in 2015 with a six-hour, three-part message delivered on the longest, most excruciating Sabbath in RCG history. Those of us who were trapped at Headquarters on January 24, 2015, remember “First a Moses, Now ELIJAH—130 Proofs!” all too well.
Back then, there was no wiggle room for whether David C. Pack believed with his whole heart that God had specially chosen and trained him to fulfill that role to usher in the return of Jesus Christ just in the nick of time.
But, after some quality time with prophetic failures, David C. Pack started backing away from rubbing Elijah in the brethren’s noses after more and more people left RCG, calling him a false prophet. Because that is precisely what he is. Unto this day.
The legacy COG doctrine that offices are given by God flies in the face of David C. Pack denying his Elijahness. According to his own book, he does not have the authority to take or put away an office God placed him in.
And there are no take-backs in Bible prophecy. He either was never a prophet or always will be.
David C. Pack’s recent denial reiterates that any doctrine held by the righteous at The Restored Church of God is subject to the veto power of a non-dunamis man and that the cowardly hirelings at Headquarters who claim to hold fast to Bible truths expose their own hypocrisy for allowing heresies to continue without consequence.
The man who literally wrote the book about God’s Government bends the rules whenever it applies to himself. Being at the top of the theological food chain certainly has its benefits.
Headquarters enablers like political smoothie Bradford Schleifer, non-critical thinker Edward Winkfield, gutless pacifist Ryan Denee, and financial schemer Carl Houk all expose themselves as unprincipled capitulators for allowing their human idol to continue without accountability just so they can keep their jobs. Taking a stand on biblical principles to Dave’s face is a one-way ticket to the parking lot.
Shame on the lot of you.
Not only does David C. Pack disregard his own literature and clear passages in the Bible, but he also disregards his own words.
Flashback Part 515 – June 1, 2024 @ 1:09:03 “Thus speaks the Lord of Hosts, ‘Behold, the man,’ that could be the Son of Man, ‘whose name is the Branch.’” Now, when it’s talking about me, it usually uses my name. Or Joshua.
If that were true, how can he say this a week later?
Part 516 – June 8, 2024 @ 05:23 “…that shall come upon your two sons, on Hophni and Phinehas in one day. They shall die, both of them. And I will raise me up a faithful priest.” Now, that’s Elijah.
You can read all of 1 Samuel and not find Elijah mentioned once. There are two mentions of Joshua the Bethshemite, but that is not Joshua the High Priest. The entire book of 1 Samuel never mentions Dave.
David C. Pack rewrites the Bible as he reads it, injecting his corruptive interpretations onto the page. Why? Because Dave needs to feel special and places himself all throughout the Bible, whether a name is in the verse or not.
David C. Pack does not need ANY name in a verse to apply HIS name to it. He preaches that he is “the righteous from the east” and “the goodman of the house" when no names exist. His "when it's talking about me" statement is a flat lie.
Part 516 – June 8, 2024 @ 05:36 "…and I will build him a sure house, and he shall stand, he shall walk before my anointed forever." So, it tells you Elijah (in a sense, I don’t mean to reduce it), but he’s the frontman. He’s in front of Christ. Christ is behind him, ruling (reigning, if you will, using the Greek) in the midst of his enemies. So, Elijah’s kind of a mouthpiece before the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord.
When Dave first dreamed up the doctrine that the introduction of Samuel in the book of 1 Samuel was about Dave instead of Samuel, it was shocking because he provided no evidence. He simply read Elijah into the verse, which has been “fact” ever since.
It really is too bad the verses in 1 Samuel are not referencing Samuel as the faithful priest because he is missing out on being IN FRONT of Jesus Christ. However, since Dave is not Elijah (wink-wink), it seems odd that he is so interested in promoting Elijah when that fulfillment has nothing to do with him.
Whoever Elijah actually turns out to be (wink-wink), he will be God’s frontman and mouthpiece. Being in front of Jesus Christ is a hefty role. After laboring for over 516 parts of a never-ending series, it is hard to fathom that David C. Pack is not the least bit jealous of whoever this Elijah person winds up being. Wink-wink.
Despite Dave's gossamer lip service that he is not Elijah (wink-wink) in Part 515, during Parts 516-518, Elijah keeps emerging where he is not mentioned.
@ 21:26 "The Lord shall judge the ends of the earth, and he shall give strength to his king." And now you're not gonna give strength to Christ. I know for a fact that’s talking about about Elijah. I could take ya to four verses that prove it. "He gives strength to his king and exalts the horn of his anointed." Now, that's that's we we already saw that’s talking about Elijah.
Talking until it becomes true is an effective way to prove biblical authenticity. David C. Pack once believed he knew the date for the return of Jesus Christ as surely as he knew his own name. With that kind of assurance, how could he be wrong? You know, with Pentecost today being the exception.
It is often noted that a liar will eventually get caught because they cannot keep all the lies straight.
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. David C. Pack believes he is Elijah despite his empty protests in 3…2…1...
Part 517 – June 8, 2024 @ 07:16 This year, Pentecost is on the 10th [Sivan]. Why would God have me counting the sizes or Elijahcounting or measuring the Temple and showing it on the 10th and calling it the beginning of the year?
David C. Pack tells you everything you need to know whether he speaks the truth.
By the time he reached Part 518, he was no longer trying. Dave can say he is not Elijah (wink-wink) all he wants, but any honest thinking person only half paying attention can connect False Teaching A to False Teaching B to arrive at the super-secret decoded answer C: David C. Pack believes he is Elijah.
Part 518 – June 11, 2024 @ 40:26 The man who succeeded Moses was named Joshua. The man who who succeeds him in the modern age is Joshua the High Priest. He’s got his own human name. And he’s called Elijah and various things, but the point is, there's a Joshua that succeeds a Moses succeeded Moses long ago.
• David C. Pack denied he was Elijah again during Part 515. • David C. Pack claims he is Joshua the High Priest. • David C. Pack reaffirmed that Joshua the High Priest is Elijah. • Since Joshua the High Priest is David C. Pack and Joshua the High Priest is Elijah, then Elijah is David C. Pack.
When David C. Pack denies he is Elijah (wink-wink), he lies to the brethren of The Restored Church of God. And they must love to have it so because they keep paying him to continue doing it.
From his own mouth, David C. Pack exposes himself as a terribly transparent fib-teller. His mouth makes the sounds, “I am not Elijah,” so that Jaco and the hirelings at Headquarters can give quotes to the unpaid field mollusks to cling on to and throw at concerned brethren and prospective members.
To enjoy the authentic effect of a rapid-fire doctrinal mishmash, watch Frank Kelley’s Elijah Compilation video. It is unintentionally hilarious.
The brethren of The Restored Church of God have grown frighteningly accustomed to being tossed to and fro by Dave’s hot air ex-cathedra. This has been going on for years.
Flashback Part 243 – March 28, 2020 @ 1:16:59 But I am not Elijah now. I’m a messenger. There nobody else that’s a messenger. I understand that, and I understand who gets raised.
Even back then, Dave was adding a little wink-wink.
Flashback Part 374 – June 8, 2022 @ 1:32:49 So, if it’s true that I am Elijah the Prophet now, then this is a lock for next week.
@ 1:34:31 Look, you know my heart. As recently as this week, I've gone I've said, "No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not Elijah.” I still wanna say I’m not.
Flashback Part 381 – July 9, 2022 @ 1:14:13 So, the ancient John [the Baptist] was a prophet who proceeded Christ, but he knew that he was not actually Elijah. So, I am not Elijah the Prophet. Not now, not ever.
Flashback Part 389 – August 24, 2022 @ 37:29 Elijah is a title, brethren.
Flashback Part 447 – June 6, 2023 @ 2:02:42 Now, the fact that He’s [God] revealing this to me,I have to be a prophet. Ephesians 3:5 says it.2 Peter 1:20-21–you can’t reveal these things to a prophet and maybe a bunch of prophets or at least two more if they’re in the room. I have to be Elijah now.
Flashback Part 515 – June 1, 2024 @ 1:28:25 I’ve said to you, brethren, I am not Elijah.I’ve maintained that.
Choose wisely which David C. Pack you believe because both are winking at you.
The prophetic date-setting industry is a tricky business. One day, you are at the top of the hill waving the biblical flag of certainty in one hand and a long, powerful list of proofs in the other while leading devout lemmings towards the ledge of eternal salvation. Then, that leader evaporates, leaving an unnamed proxy apologist to break the bad news: go home because we have more time.
Jesus Christ will NOT return on Pentecost 2024!
The brethren of The Restored Church of God did not have to wait until sunrise Sunday morning to be disappointed by their not-Elijahn human idol, David C. Pack. After business hours last night, this surrender from Headquarters' Church Administration ensured another Sabbath was delight-free.
This delay was not unexpected, but just a tad earlier than usual.
June 14, 2024 Subject: Prophecy Update
Dear brethren,
Warm greetings from Headquarters!
It has become clear that there will be a delay beyond the day we expect.
You can look forward to a message next week regarding this. The case for a slight delay is more than can be contained in a brief announcement!
In the meantime, enjoy the Sabbath and a “normal” Pentecost. Remember that Pentecost marks not just the birth of the New Testament Church, but also a pivotal moment dating back to the Old Testament.
It serves as a powerful reminder of when God gave people His law and generously poured out His Spirit. Having back-to-back days of services gives us a chance for more fellowship and to reflect on the profound impact of Pentecost and the additional time God has given us before the arrival of His Kingdom.
Warm regards, Church Administration
According to Church Administration, the final 4 hours and 18 minutes of preaching that ended "The Greatest Untold Story!" and brought the Mystery of God to a close was just not enough time to get the picture straight.
David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God failed for the 82nd time since March 2022. He and the hireling enablers could not get within 24 hours of Pentecost sunrise on June 16, 2024, before caving.
Poor Dave wasted all that desperate effort perverting the Scriptures and warping the Hebrew calendar by conjuring an imaginary New Moon on the tenth of each month just to make Pentecost fit. Sounds like more lists will be transferred to the fireplace.
A stroll down memory lane can be a joyous occasion for most people. But for David C. Pack, being reminded of his own words is an attack by the devil. So much for the truth setting him free. Enjoy this recap of recent events.
Flashback Part 512 – May 11, 2024 @ 07:25 But, I know when the Seven Year Kingdom begins. The very day. Absolutely. I know it… I’ve got 50 proofs of when this happens. I absolutely know and know that I know and know that I know that I know.
Flashback Part 514 – May 25, 2024 @ 58:37 I had prepared an unbelievably powerful list of things, page after page, single-spaced, and eventually, I distilled them that pointed to Pentecost for the start.
Flashback Part 515 – June 1, 2024 @ 19:55 You maybe want me to declare the day, and I cannot do that. I can’t do that.
Flashback Part 516 – June 8, 2024 @ 01:01 …after you hear all that I have to say, the sermon and the Bible study, and Monday, and you will say, “This really is the day.” That’s what you will say. You will not doubt it.
Flashback Part 517 – June 8, 2024 @ 00:49 Has to be Pentecost…it has to be this year.
@ 40:12 The evidence becomes overwhelming. It would almost be an act of deception by God to lay out all of this and say, “Sorry. Fooled you. Joke’s on you.”
The joke is on the RCG members who thought David C. Pack had any idea what he was talking about.
Flashback Part 518 – June 11, 2024 @ 1:33:53 What a revelation. What a revelation. The Series is over…This is my last message.
Then, in the final 63 seconds, after 4 hours and 17 wasted minutes.
@ 1:37:37 …but if we went past Pentecost…God has done something inexplicable beyond what we can know or comprehend.
According to the CAD email on Friday night, God has done something inexplicable that was also characterized as an act of deception. Dave’s god is a real jerk. No wonder Dave is his mouthpiece.
On the bright side, David C. Pack has the unintentional tendency to further legitimize the chronicling on exrcg.org.
6) Begin waffling and walking it back as the date approaches by dropping hints of uncertainty.
12) Just before the date fails, make CAD send a surrender announcement with promises of a more exciting and better future because God has provided Mr. Pack with a new understanding.
None of this is coincidental. It is the perverted expression of a warped mind that cannot come to terms with the reality that God is not using him to preach any of this. David C. Pack is not being moved by the Holy Spirit to declare Pentecost this Sunday or the 81 previous dates since March 2022.
Anyone who has faith in the words of David C. Pack is a fool. Anyone who has faith that David C. Pack has any chance on this green earth of interpreting the Scriptures correctly is a fool. Anyone who has faith that God is guiding David C. Pack to teach them this and declare Pentecost 2024 as the day Jesus Christ returns is beyond foolish and is, of all men, most miserable.
David C. Pack is going to fail, and he knows it. He cannot resist undercutting every point he made across four hours and eroding any perceived strength in his case. The brethren probably hoped he would end the Series without painting an asterisk on the page. But that is what Dave does. Wiggle, wiggle.
Which one of us is the real unordained non-prophet/non-psychic? The brethren at Headquarters will know for sure when this happens today and tomorrow:
There will be some serious disappointment in the Pack household on Sunday by the time Dave skips Services so that his wife can slip their offering into the basket. Imagine the content of the emergency ministerial Bible study when Dave corrals the other hirelings to share what God zapped into his head at 2 AM, confirming all his suspicions.
If the Pastor General lacks the courage to show his face at the front of the Main Hall, he may throw Coffee Kid or Pepper Boy to the wolves as a meat shield to conduct some much-needed stammering damage control. Please do not let it be Andy. He is awful at making feeble excuses and feigned enthusiasm. That is much more Jim’s forte. But nobody can top Edward “Stepford Prime” Winkfield, who gleefully skips to the front of the room to smile wide-eyed and sweat his way through the false narrative that everything is fine.
I used to think Ed was a man of principle. Life is full of disappointments.
Flashback Part 518 – June 11, 2024 @ 00:33 You decide if you think we can, shall we say, wiggle out of Pentecost.
David C. Pack decided he could wiggle out of Pentecost. The brethren of The Restored Church of God need to seriously consider how much of a bonus they want to pay to be lied to.
The capitulation email last night stated, “It has become clear that there will be a delay beyond the day we expect.”
There is no delay. God was not behind the “proofs” of Pentecost 2024 being the day Jesus Christ returned or the existence of a stealth New Moon on the tenth of each month.
The delay ahead is no delay at all. It was never going to happen this weekend. The only place David C. Pack will lead anyone is off a spiritual cliff. That will continue without delay.
