Wednesday, January 22, 2025

Dave Pack and the Hypotheticals of R * pe


Dave Pack is a disgusting human being. 
This is a perfect example of what extremist Armstrongism does to people.

Pack claims: 

If you are serving God and are r@ped, God will prevent you from having the baby so that you would not need to have an abortion. 

Talk about bullshit!

 

Monday, January 20, 2025

Dave Pack: 10 Years Of Wandering Aimlessly As A False Prophet


False Moses

David C. Pack’s failed prophecy Series has wandered aimlessly into its tenth year, dragging along the weary brethren of The Restored Church of God through the dismal swamp of his human steam-driven ego. Inaudibly charged with an uncertain assignment by a fickle god and surrounded by complacent enablers, the Pastor General sounds his own trumpet before his worshipers. At the same time, he beckons for sympathy for his self-inflicted burdens from the very people who pay him for his lies.

“The Greatest Story Never Told! (Part 1)” was given on November 14, 2015. The four-part sermon focused on how the Third Temple would be built and continued through Part 7. The Part 8 inset brushed Jesus Christ aside to make room for Dave to seize His role as That Prophet.

Excuse me, a correction. Elijah is That Prophet. Wink-wink.

As a natural-born quitter, David C. Pack has been specially trained inside his distorted reality bubble by bobble-headed Headquarters mollusks who always agree with this week’s flavor of malarkey.

Mmm… Prophetic Fraud and Blasphemy. It’s what’s for dinner.™

Despite Dave going it alone with no other faux apostles to consult with, rest assured that on the tenth anniversary on November 14, 2025, the most abysmally insufferable Series to ever plague a COG will continue “right on track” toward a promised land that he will never find.

 


Imagine David C. Pack as Moses leading the children of Israel to the Red Sea, but he cannot decide where to cross. Everyone is watching, eagerly anticipating the freedom they long for. While they expect him to make another bold declaration like he did back in Egypt when the sea was far away, Dave marches toward the shore but slows down as he approaches.

His heart races in panic because he is not sure where they should go. The evidence suggests maybe it is a half mile to the right. A list of proofs point to possibly being beyond those big rocks to the left. It is hard to know for sure based on all the “present truth” available.

Woe! The mind-breaking burden is agony.

Dave offers false assurances instead of confessing the truth and accuses his critics of being faithless. The scribes are labeled as “our enemies.” The trickster god Dave worships ghosted him again. What to do?

Surely, they cannot believe it is just a coincidence that they wanted to leave Egypt… and he came along to tell them he could lead them out of Egypt. The timing was just too perfect.

The crowd of Israelites watch their false Moses approach the water, but then he abruptly turns to the right. So, the zealous people follow him to the right. After two minutes of hesitant strolling, Dave turns around and heads in the opposite direction. The people follow him to the left.

Dave pauses to give a long-winded speech filled with stammering words until it becomes apparent he is stalling. He has no answer but drops flicks and hints to give the impression he does. They just are not ready for it yet.

Now that the false Moses is near the water, his gut feeling is no longer unwavering. He hides from the people how incredibly uncomfortable he really is.

The sea does not part. There is no still, small voice guiding him. His once “This is the hill I die on!” bravado bleeds away as his face goes pale.

Maybe he is getting sick. But only weak people hiding secret sins and practicing poor hygiene habits get ill. So, that cannot be it. Unless it is prophetic COVID again.

The only thing Dave is left to do is to walk back and forth, retreading his own footprints in the sand. The children of Israel reluctantly follow because they believe there are no other options. After all, they’ve come this far. It is too late to turn back now.

The brethren murmur when they see their divinely chosen leader's wavering.

“But his name means ‘Passover.’ That can’t just be a coincidence.”
"The proofs were impossible to misunderstand, but he somehow misunderstood.”
"This cannot be a ruse by God. That would make us all fools."
"He spoke in God's name, but nothing happened. Is that okay?”
"He said he would die before he changed his doctrine. But he still changed it.”
"His logic was impossible to argue with. Maybe I should have argued more."
"How come the laws and commandments apply to me but not to him?"
"He said God showed him this. Doesn't that make God a liar?"

At the first sign of the dust kicked up by the Egyptian army just over the hill, Bradford “Aaron” Schleifer and Edward “Miriam” Winkfield are the first to tuck tail and run to save their own skin because they knew they followed a false Moses but did not warn the people.

Ryan “Achan” Denee had already fled like a shaken leaf even when none pursued.

Though they professed with their tongues that Dave was God’s chosen leader and upheld his arms every time his sign or wonder failed, they did not hesitate to abandon the flock. As hirelings who care not for the sheep, they willfully lead them to the slaughter to preserve their own positions of authority, hold on to their private campus houses, and keep their harping wives quiet.

A troubling discomfort creeps over the people as they watch David “False Moses” Pack pace along the shore franticly pointing this way and that way, contradicting himself one moment to the next but assuring everyone they are “right on track” because he finally figured it out.

This is false apostle and inept prophet David C. Pack leading The Restored Church of God today. The water will never part. The RCG brethren will never cross the Red Sea. He will never lead them into the promised land.

Instead, they will rot in the salty sand because he was not sent by God, and he operates only on human steam.


Marc Cebrian

Sunday, January 19, 2025

Dave Pack: On Human Steam



On Human Steam

There is a saturated fear warping the minds of the members of The Restored Church of God that keeps them trapped in their spiritually bankrupt organization. They desperately cling to the fallacious notion that they are in “the one true church” even though they have lived through years of evidence that proves otherwise.

Despite Pastor General David C. Pack promising salvation just over the horizon since 2012, even the All-Believing Zealots sometimes privately admit that the guy has not delivered. It is not an accusation but a fact of history. Even after the failed dates documented since March 2022 blow past the 100 mark, the brethren will not move from their seats because they vainly repeat a lie.

“I just need more patience. God is guiding Mr. Pack, and he will be proven right.”
Wrong.

David C. Pack will never be right about the return of Jesus Christ. He is not the usher to salvation. He is not the gatekeeper to the Kingdom. He does not see the plan of God “clearly” and is not even a bottom-of-the-list synonym close to “correct” about the series of events before or after the Kingdom of God arrives.

Case in point as of Part 551:

Jesus Christ Returns on January 29, 2025!
But now this could be a possible maybe.

More likely around then. But it’s so hard to nail down.

No matter how many numbered kitchenware props and wooden blocks adorn the table, the tall tales spun by Dave and his conscience-seared drones will never manifest. Never.

“The Greatest Unending Story!” Series is a fool’s errand eating time and squatting out corn-spotted malarkey placed on the living room mantle as if each discovery is a theological masterpiece.

In reality, David C. Pack is not led by God. The Holy Spirit does not inspire him to study and preach fickle gibberish. Dave is not an apostle. He is not a prophet. He cannot be trusted. He is a proven blaspheming, hypocritical liar. He is a street magician, a charlatan, and a deceiver.

David C. Pack admits he operates on human steam.

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Since I was an RCG member from July 2012 until March 2021, I understand how members filter out unbiblical behavior and blasphemous statements made by the Pastor General. We committed our lives to God and were zealous to obey His word. We chose to trust His shepherds tasked with guiding us to the Kingdom of God. We proved that The Restored Church of God was the “one true church.”

By doing this, we willfully put our logic horse blinders on, turned our eyes away from hypocrisy committed six feet away, and stuffed our ears with Silly Putty because “God will work it out.”

God will not work it out because you have to do it yourself.

God is not leading the efforts at The Restored Church of God. God did not designate David C. Pack as His end-time mouthpiece. God did not sprinkle mentions of David C. Pack throughout the Bible. God does not force David C. Pack to study the Bible until 2 AM, skip out on commanded assemblies, or steal money under the “Common” scam.

David C. Pack has been broadcasting to his barely conscious worshippers for years that God is not behind what he teaches. He made it screaming obvious during “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 550)” on December 21, 2024, and continued into Part 551 the following week.

For those bothering to pay attention, David C. Pack informed his audience that he operates on human steam.

Matthew 12:34
…for out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

Matthew 11:15
He that has ears to hear, let him hear.

Flashback Part 512 – May 11, 2024
@ 1:14:32 I’m not prophesying now. Nobody’ll ever get me to say that.

Insert a record scratch here.

Part 550 – December 21, 2024
@ 40:47 When did I first prophesy before doing it again? This is a fascinating thing to to discuss.

The 15-minute ego stroke was not fascinating. It was a pointless vanity exercise wandering in vapid circles.

@ 51:17 So, you asked me, “When did you become a prophet?” I don’t know.

Dave did not know but had to keep talking about it for another five minutes.

@ 55:44 There’s no way to really know how long this has been going on.

This is how members of The Restored Church of God spend their Sabbaths. Try to find that on the public website.

The final prophet of God does not know when he became a prophet nor when he prophesied. That is one helluva hiccup Dave created when he redefined what a prophet does. Since he can go about his business without an audible instruction from God, it is super convenient that he avoids the same biblical standard when faced with repeated abject failure.

Dave does not know because God did not raise or train him to be a prophet or prophesy. David C. Pack's entire career operates on cascading assumptions powered by human steam.


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Near the end of Part 550, Dave degraded his stature into an uninspired “woe is me” whine-fest.


@ 1:26:31 Think: Now I want you to I want you to think about something. And this’ll be maybe some of you will care about this. You’ll you’ll understand it. You’ll be sensitive to it.

Dave better pray his audience is more sensitive to him than he is to them.

@ 1:26:54 If you wanna understand my muh my situation with this material and, you know, walk a mile with me for a moment here now in my moccasins. I gotta know the clock we’re on at some point.

@ 1:27:29 But I did notice that it’s written to one man. Now, if you can understand the immense unceasing and here we’re well, you’re gettin’ into my my my moccasins. Unceasing, mind-bake it– [chuckles] buh-buh backbreaking, mind-breaking burden of going as long as I have preaching a thousand hours and studying for 20 or 25 hours. I loved it. No complaint.

The unceasing, backbreaking, and mind-breaking burden is not a complaint? This is textbook Dave contradicting himself in the next breath.

@ 1:27:54 You can understand why I would say, “Yes! This is almost over.” But not want the brethren to see me do that ‘cause they might think I hated it. I didn’t.

Dave does not want the brethren to know how he feels by explaining to the brethren how he feels. He continues with the explanation of his non-complaints about the backbreaking burdens of his office.

@ 1:28:03 That the endless array of frustrations and agony and lying in bed. I I never never I haven’t been to bed before two o’clock on Saturday night, sometimes three o’clock. I don’t know. Couple years other than maybe at the Feast.

Prolonged sleep deprivation does not improve brain function. If the divine process of ending the Mystery of God were Holy Spirit-inspired, it would not be an unceasing, backbreaking, mind-breaking burden requiring exhausting hours of late-night study that proves fruitless the following week.

However, if you are motivated by human steam, it makes perfect sense.

@ 1:28:21 I just I'm or or, and then I’m up all morning, and my wife is working around, and I'm doing things. Looking and checking all kinds of stuff.

David C. Pack may be “up all morning” being busy, but he produces nothing. He manufactures work for himself that nobody tasked him with. God did not assign Dave this task. He is the author of his own long, wasted hours motivated by human steam.

Which is why he is so frustrated and miserable.

@ 1:28:28 Turns out it wasn't so hard, but it it was hard getting to what was pure simplicity in Christ.

Dave quickly turned up his nose to that same “simplicity in Christ” the next week and nullified the temporary relief from his self-inflicted pressures.

@ 1:28:37 And I needed to know we’ve crossed the first threshold and the end is in sight.

On New Year’s Eve, Dave’s god pushed the “end in sight” further down the road. But that is what happens when you operate on only human steam.


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No prophetic confidence was provided during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 551)” on December 31, 2024. The year for RCG ended with a whimper when Dave front-loaded his not-so-certain discoveries.

Part 551 – December 31, 2024
@ 02:48 First, I believe we are either waiting for before Shevat 1, which is January 29thBefore Shevat 1 or also potentially just after it. But we're on track toward this time period for very different reasons. There is a greater chance we’re not gonna get to Shevat 1 than that we will go past it.

There is a greater chance pigs will fly than David C. Pack figuring anything out.

Dave's broken mind cannot hear the words falling from his mouth. The brethren of The Restored Church of God do not enjoy the same excuse.

@ 03:25 Many incredibly important discoveries have come the last ten days or so. I I seem unable to [chuckles] keep them from piling up. They are they are very interesting and, I think you’ve been seeing that.

Ten years into the Series at Part 551…five hundred and fifty-one…there are yet more “important discoveries” that alter the understanding again as they continue to pile up. Is that how the Holy Spirit works with THE end-time messenger? Or is that further evidence that David C. Pack meanders on human steam?

@ 03:39 But but may I be personal for a moment? I wanna just be personal as we near what I believe is the end of the Series.

God would make it clear to His servant when the Mystery of God is ended. Not so much with Dave.

Flashback Part 200 – August 27, 2019
@ 00:02 Well, brethren, over the last nearly four years, as I introduce Part 200 that ends the Series, we've seen various “present truths,” …And that that series of adjustments of present truths, if you will, ends tonight.

Part 551 – December 31, 2024
@ 04:07 I love teaching what God is doing.

David C. Pack has no clue what God is doing because God is not involved in his process. Dave’s astonishingly piss-poor reading comprehension skills are only the tip of the iceberg of his problems.

He throws down the sympathy card again to defuse the anticipated criticism coming his way.

@ 06:40 I’m being very personal. I love teaching that [God’s plan]. WHEN God will start all of this is hard and not nearly as enjoyable and, in many ways, isn't enjoyable at all. And I wanted just to say that.

David C. Pack admits he operates on human steam
in 3…2…1…

@ 07:59 So, I I I hope you understand, and if I had it to do over, I wouldn’t try as hard to figure out WHEN God is gonna do WHAT He’s gonna do. I may have come to the point where I finally understand it, but I I’m I don’t wanna claim that. At least, not at this point.

The members of The Restored Church of God who refuse to hear their Pastor General speaking plainly have only themselves to blame when they go bankrupt financially, spiritually, and mentally.

David C. Pack would not “try as hard to figure out.” God did not send him. God did not inspire him. Dave charged himself with the task of figuring out timing. He just said it.

@ 08:18 But, WHAT God is gonna do is just amazing fun. It’s just amazing fun and thrilling to to to to be able to teach.

@ 09:50 I mean, WHEN is interesting. It just not fun for Mr. Pack to research and try to get right. It’s just very difficult. It invites the attack of enemies. If I if I had not done that, I mean, and these same enemies who couldn't care less what the Bible says God is gonna do. Couldn't care less. But, boy, do they wanna catch a wrong date. So, if I can [chuckles] do that all over again, I I probably I wuh I’d definitely would. You know, hindsight is is always 20/20.

20/20 hindsight has never stopped David C. Pack from repeating the mistakes he decried he would never do again. His cup of coffee endures longer than his memory.

God’s chosen Branch and “That Prophet” Elijah would not need to “try to get right” anything. His words would be accurate the first time and for all time because God sent him and gave him the words to say.

David C. Pack's enemies point out when he gets the dates wrong for the return of Jesus Christ. Is that because Dennis, Gary, and Marc are just a bunch of mustache-twirling meanies? Or did we learn to justly mock Dave from the same book?

Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD,
if the thing follow not, nor come to pass,
that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken,
but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously:
you shall not be afraid of him.

David C. Pack claims to preach the Bible's truths in God's name yet excuses himself from biblical accountability. An authentic servant of God does not label people enemies because they accurately hold him to the same standards he dishes out.

Mark 4:24
…Take heed what you hear: with what measure you mete,
it shall be measured to you…


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The Pastor General occasionally love bombs his audience to convince them he cares. But his actions tell a different story. One small moment illustrates that he can get reports about the mindset of the congregation, but he will do whatever the hell he wants anyway.

@ 08:37 Mr. Schleifer tells me this, few others, too, “They [members] don’t really even seem to care WHEN‘cause they know God’s gonna do it. The WHAT is just it is so exciting.”

@ 09:30 So, I’ll I’ll just say that and being personal. WHEN is a lot harder. But most of today, almost all of it, is gonna be about WHEN because I have learned a number of things.

Brad is very slick at dulling the edges of potentially perceived criticism. Brethren admitting they find WHAT more exciting is just a polite and safe way to say, “Stop setting dates. We are sick of it.”

Dave heard it. He told the audience he heard it. Then, he ignored it because he “learned” things. It makes you wonder why he brought it up in the first place if he was going to plow over their preference.

Do not wonder too much. David C. Pack truly cares only about David C. Pack. The common folk are as valuable to him as the accolades they shower him with. They serve him, or they are useless.

A portion of David C. Pack's psyche understands that God is not behind what he preaches and is doing this all on his own. He has exposed himself before.

Flashback Part 512 – May 11, 2024
@ 1:18:40 But people wanna throw stones sometimes at Mr. Pack can’t figure [chuckles] all of this out. I mean, I I get deeply frustrated with myself. I never get frustrated with God, but it just I thought, you know, maybe it would be good if we just went really deeply into how difficult some of this is so you could be just as periodically miserable as I am. I I mean, misery loves company. This some of this is hard.

Flashback Part 516 – June 8, 2024
@ 00:47 WE’VE had a lot of different aborted dates. If you wanna say while WE’VE learned more and more about God’s plan, WE’VE never really pinned down when it would start. But, you will stand up on Monday …and you will say, “This really is the day.” That’s what you will say. You will not doubt it.

In June, the members who did not doubt were revealed to be gullible lemmings who abandoned thinking for themselves. It is theological buffoonery to accept anything Dave says. One week after proving January 29 was it, he transformed the faithful RCG brethren into misguided idiots for professing agreement.

Part 551 – December 31, 2024
@ 1:06:55 Go over to Acts 3. What a powerful discovery I made, and I'm gonna share it with you now.

 

Motivated by the inspiration of Dave's false god, he speaks with unwavering power and clarity. Kinda.

@ 1:15:17 The First Kingdom, I’m gonna just say, the First Kingdom has to start on a Sabbath... It wouldn’t be wrong if it were a new moon. I guess you could say Shevat 1 is a possibility, but it’s not a Sabbath. I absolutely rule out Shevat 1 [January 29]. I I actually don’t think we’re gonna get there. But you it cannot be Shevat 1. Now, if it’s gonna be a new moon and a Sabbath, it could be Adar 1 [February 28].

Did his authoritative certainty give you goosebumps?

@ 1:30:52 The evidence for all this general timing has become so strong I would have no idea what other period of time would work. I have no idea.

David C. Pack often lies to the brethren of The Restored Church because he cannot help himself in 3…2…1…

@ 1:31:02 And I’m not literally going to eh–ever get into date setting.

The Pastor General is a sad, confused man who lives only in the present and cannot remember the past or contemplate the future. He proves with his own human steam-powered lips that his words cannot be trusted.

Flashback Part 172 – April 27, 2019
@ 1:03:50 I’ll never ever, ever again say the day.

Flashback Part 389 – August 24, 2022
@ 52:41 Therefore, if you're gonna say the same thing again…it looks like he didn't say the date the first time either, and I won’t do it. And I’m sorry that I ever did.

Figuring out the date for the return of Jesus Christ is the effort of human steam. True God-fueled inspiration is correct the first time. It is not a process of “trial and error or hit and miss” theology, as Dave promotes.

Part 551 – December 31, 2024
@ 1:31:09 I’m not absolutely certain of the exact date but but I’ve long held WE’VE gone back and forth on it. I’ll just say, to a strong idea that’s grown far stronger over time. It's all through the Bible, and it’s before Shevat 1 [January 29]. It may not be true, but it cannot be far off, and you you you now understand why.

David C. Pack operates on human steam because God is not guiding him. And he knows it.

But don’t believe me. Believe your Bible.

2 Timothy 3:7
Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Ephesians 4:14
…be no more children, tossed to and fro,
and carried about with every wind of doctrine…

Jeremiah 23:21
I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran:
I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.


Marc Cebrian
see: On Human Steam