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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Well, if this isn't the pot calling the kettle black! Our most highly favored self-appointed prophet in the history of the church has posted another, "It's all about me backslapper" article warning about the ravenous wolves seeking to devour the faithful. Never has there been such an oleaginous leader who constantly brags about himself. Instead of pointing his followers to the One they should be directed to, he places himself at the top as the main focus.
Matt 7:15-20 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Bwana Bob loves to quote about ravenous wolves seeking to devour his little flock, but he is the wolf. Sadly, the COG is filled with wolves right now, and Bob is right there next to the rest of the oleaginous leaders (Pack, Flurry, Weinland, et al.). Smooth talkers all, spewing lies constantly. Don't be deceived by these smooth talkers that love to quote the Bible because even demons can do that:
I Timothy 4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared...
James 2:19 NASB 19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
The professional backslapper continues:
Can you tell good fruit from bad fruit? Are you sure? Some of those bearing bad fruit are wearing sheep’s clothing. You can’t always tell by looking. The ravenous wolf can be disguised by smooth words. The ravenous wolf can be disguised by lies. Dr. Thiel shines the light of the word of God on some ravenous wolves. If you are being disparaged for the word of God, is it possible that you are actually bearing good fruit? If there are some that lie about you and deceive others about the work you do for the kingdom of God, could that be an indication that you are actually bearing good fruit? Dr. Thiel brings the truth to light with several verses quoted from the Holy Bible. What are some of the works that fulfill the definition of bearing good fruit? Is it God that determines what is good fruit and what is bad? Or is it man? What fruits are you bearing? Would you like to be part of producing good fruit by helping fulfill Matthew 24:14 and Romans 11:25? Dr. Thiel shows you how to become a part of the body of Christ that is bearing good fruit by fulfilling those scriptures and more.
Now we know why Bob bounces around so much when speaking,
After years of carefully documenting and studying the words of David C. Pack, I have concluded that his brain and his mouth do not communicate with each other.
The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God often makes a contradictory statement in the next breath. He blasphemes God while thinking he is being colorful. He boasts about things that should cause him shame. He exposes lies he meant to hide. He sometimes rolls along at such a manic pace that he cannot complete a singular thought without multiple disruptions.
He just “knew” nothing biblical would happen on a date he spent weeks teaching it would.
Only David C. Pack can be right while being wrong.
During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 558)” on February 15, 2025, David C. Pack continued preaching with the same righteously self-assured bravado as the other 557 occasions. But, this time, it will be different. Wink-wink.
Jesus Christ Will Return on His Birthday Abib 1 – March 29, 2025
Even though Dave claimed he could convince members about the surety of Abib 1 this year during just a sermonette, he provided evidential overkill so everyone could confidently go home feeling as conclusive as he did.
Well…unlike the other 94 dates since March 2022. Being wrong that many times about prophetic matters should be overkill when deciding if David C. Pack speaks with God's authority.
Dave figured the best introduction to his Abib overkill was to sandwich it with blaming the doctrines of The Worldwide Church of God. He seized another opportunity to drive over Herbert W. Armstrong’s corpse.
Part 558 – February 15, 2025 @ 05:18 I didn't think Mr. Armstrong was right, and he wasn't. But we weren't either.
@ 06:46 We've been unclear so long for so long, years, on when God will intervene, that I'm going to use overkill. I mean, the the biggest overkill I I could, I guess, to prove Abib starts all three measures of the Kingdom…So maybe you could say, “Well, why didn't we see that right away?” Well, Mr. Armstrong never did. He only saw one Kingdom, and he had it at Trumpets. So that's that's your starting point for 50 years. That'll that'll that'll affect you. You won't necessarily see Abib right away.
Herbert W. Armstrong. Getting in our way for over 50 years.™
@ 57:04 They [members who left] didn’t wanna hear about that because I couldn’t get the date right. Now it.There’s some people didn’t cut me any slackbecause I was coming off of a of a background was only one thousand years, and it started at Trumpets, and we thought this was [1335 wooden block] this was what kicked it off.
He said this during Part 558. Part five hundred and fifty-eight.
David C. Pack has had 12 years of slack. His first and most important failure was on August 30, 2013, when the Kingdom of God did not arrive at the Wadsworth Campus. Jesus Christ did not ring Dave's doorbell. Angels driving fiery chariots did not arrive at members' homes across the globe to bring them to Ohio. Dave has had plenty of slack, including the 94 failed dates just since March 2022.
What is genuinely overkill is how many dates David C. Pack has set and still has his job. The Bible gives people one shot to prove whether they are true or false. The Headquarters enablers allow an all-you-can-eat buffet of biblical fraud.
Thinking Dave will FINALLY nail it next month is an overkill in foolishness.
Why is a publicly declared non-prophet/non-psychic more accurate about future outcomes than Pastor General David C. Pack?
Fool’s Gold – February 15, 2025 The 1335 did not begin on February 12 13, 2025, but Dave got in front of it so that he could later claim his suspicions were correct. It is pretty funny how he will teach about a date and express his doubts just before it happens so he can later claim he “was right” about nothing happening…on a date he set.
Behold!
Part 558 – February 15, 2025 @ 00:32 Well, let’s just do this officially together. And I knew before the day passed that we would. This [1335 & 1290 wooden blocks] is entirely wrong. And it's as wrong as Mr. Armstrong had it wrong in a different way.
Shakespeare can sometimes ring as true as a Bible verse.
@ 04:16 And I didn't need. I want you to know this. I did not need the 1335 to pass to know Abib was the target. Now, I I I thought, "That's backing in, and it's almost cowardly.What am I missing that I need to see 1335 pass, then I'll know?" I saw the powerful case emerging for Abib, but I wanted to see it based on what God said, not because the calendar date rolled over far enough that it just became impossible.And that is what happened. I was getting close, but this [1335 wooden block] was just a very, very, very thorny problem to try to address.
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
Talk about denial overkill. When Dave unintentionally exposes himself, it is due to his brain and lips having a dysfunctional relationship.
David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar. Based upon his own words, it would not be overkill to add cowardly to the list.
Dave has no problem kicking Herbie’s corpse in the nuts when it satisfies his purpose, and we can all share a chuckle about that.
However, David C. Pack expresses no fear when he blasphemes God. He has an alarming habit of giving God credit for theories later proven false, blames God when nothing happens as he assumed, teaches lies while claiming God’s authority, and declares God as the inspiration for the content and duration of the Series.
In his zeal to provide Abib overkill, Dave’s tongue ran riot while his brain napped.
@ 45:24 That can’t be right. So, I knew that was wrong. So, I moved it to the front until, eventually, God destroyed that because we’re we’re steaming down on the date. At some point, we had to know when this was gonna happen because it’s a date that can’t tarry and will surely come.
David C. Pack just made his god a liar.
Dennis Diehl aptly pointed out: "Dave only lives in the present. He cannot remember the past or consider the future."
The scattered, corrupted thinking of David C. Pack does not allow him to consider his ways. He does not comprehend what he says, and the brethren of The Restored Church of God are too weary to think critically.
Dave just said that “God destroyed” the theory about the 1335 and 1290 beginning on February 13. Dave previously claimed that God had revealed this, and it was not his own idea. If God originally inspired the February 13 construct but later destroyed it, would that not make God a liar?
David C. Pack cannot decide whether to credit God or himself with what he preaches. In either case, the reasons are never righteous when people flee The Restored Church of God.
@ 56:06 …but sometimes I was trying to figure out which year when I hadn’t yet pinned down which day.And that was complicated. But it went years, no pun intended, because we had so much to learn, and some people say, "This is taking too long. I guess I'll just throw away my eternal life.” And so, God dragged it out and dragged it out and dragged it out because we hafta go through our own tribulation and difficulty, so I’ve talked about that many times. But some people say, "No."
@ 57:21 It was just all all all wrong. …At times, I get more frustrated with myself than some of the people who would leave, but I knew God was dragging it out through the better part of a decade to see who was gonna quit.
The failed dates. The mind-numbing repetition. The endless backpedaling. The countless disappointments. The disheartening fear and shame. David C. Pack laid all of these at God’s feet.
Dave also set another lie and blasphemy in motion to be fulfilled on March 29, 2025. That WILL surely come.
@ 2:04:11 But, once you learn it’s Abib 1, so God could not let us know until it was the applicable year.
David C. Pack declares that God let RCG know that His plan will begin on Abib 1 this year: March 29, 2025. Based on his own words, if nothing happened on that date, then David C. Pack spoke falsely in God’s name and stole His authority. He will again be a documented liar, blasphemer, and false prophet.
Is that the baseless accusation of an enemy, or is it a documented fact?
@ 2:05:11 So, God reveals His secrets to His servants, the prophets. And who can but prophesy?
Flashback Part 512 – May 11, 2024 @ 1:14:32 I’m not prophesying now. Nobody’ll ever get me to say that.
Part 558 – February 15, 2025 @ 1:58:49 I am the Messenger to the Seventh Era. I don’t need a verse for God to to authorize me to go the era that He designates me to go to. And I’m gonna go with fire, hail, wind, storm, hell, and high water on the one after next [Splinter video].
David C. Pack does not require an audible voice, vision, or a dream to know that he speaks with God's authority. He no longer needs a Bible verse, either.
There is no accountability or consequence in The Restored Church of God.
@ 2:06:11 If you wait one year to 2026, one year… That wouldn’t work. So, if it delayed, if it’s not this year, we have a two-year minimum wait. Or the Bible’s false. What are you gonna do with that?
Irreverently stating that the Bible is also false is minor when compared to blaming the Author.
@ 2:07:49 It simply won’t work to wait one year. If it didn't come this year, we would absolutely wait in vain next year, hoping God was false.Through Daniel.
David C. Pack’s god is false. It is the god of his own perverse hubris. The exrcg.org website has proven who and what he is since June 2022. Containing over 300 articles proving that is a bit overkill.
Part 558 was two hours and ten minutes of unnecessary overkill because nothing will happen on Abib 1 this year. March 29, 2025, will come and go peacefully, and the brethren of The Restored Church of God will need to bury their heads further into the sand.
@ 01:51 …when does this happen? What date? And you will see before today is out, and I have so much material, it will take me this week and next to prove the correct date. But you will know the only day in the calendar it can possibly occur.
@ 07:53 And when you walk outta here today, you'll be overwhelmed, which is wonderful. That's exactly what I want. I want you, after hearing about half the material, I want you to walk out and say, "It's impossible. It's impossible that we're not waiting for Abib."
@ 58:11 And what a an amazing privilege, I think. What a an amazing privilege when God eventually gives you the day.
When nothing happens on March 29, 2025, David C. Pack will have taken the Lord’s name in vain again and falsely credited God with another prophetic lie.
@ 58:40 So, I sit here, and I and I and I think, "What a what an a what a privilege. How grateful, appreciative, blessed are we?” Ya almost can’t imagine it because you’re hearing today what the disciples yearned to know…
@ 2:02:34 So the deadlock, the stalemate, is over. It's it's done. The truth is what we were seeking. I wish it was three days away, but it’s not. And we found it. We were seeking the truth, and we found it. Abib is a great discovery.A long time coming. What God is going to do is now joined by an absolute when. But these two great points are joined by much proof of 2025.
RCG members willfully close their eyes, stop their ears, and refuse to accept the reality of where they worship and to who they pay their tithes.
The compromised Headquarters mollusks like Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, and Ryan Denee hide inside their ceiled houses with sealed lips, but their hearts know the truth. They understand what David C. Pack is but choose to prop up his arms after every failure. The next one will be Abib 1.
Shame on the lot of them, but may God have mercy.
Jesus Christ will not return on Abib 1 next month. Nothing prophetic will happen on March 29, 2025, because David C. Pack is a biblical fraud. Presenting all the evidence of this in just one article would be overkill.
Who could have ever imagined that a self-appointed Church of God false prophet would ever be talking about the "trickery of men" when he is the biggest trickster in the church right now, damaging more lives than Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry could ever dream of doing.
It always seems to be the most corrupt men in the church moaning about tricksters and other big ol'meanies causing them trouble.
Today, our favorite self-appointed prophet to the church has a new video up with him bouncing at his desk with his hands flailing as he pretends to teach us from the Bible. As usual, he drags out dead Herb to bolster the point he is trying to get across. There never seems to be an original thought in any COG leader's head.
This sermon is the sixth part of a six-part sermon series covering each and every verse of the Book of Hebrews. This sermon covers the 13th chapter. Dr. Thiel begins by reading some comments from the late Herbert W. Armstrong. Dr. Thiel covers each verse of the thirteenth chapter of Hebrews in this sermon. He discusses that Philadelphia was to continue and that one man hierarchical governance is what true Philadelphians should Christians accept. He also warns about the trickery of men and that proper church governance helps prevent people from losing the Philadelphian crown.Dr. Thiel discusses what Jesus has been doing and how He looks. He exhorts people to do good and to endure to the end and explains about God’s plan of increasing love throughout eternity.