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Friday, April 25, 2025

Crackpot Prophet: If LCG And PCG Would Heed My Words, They Would Be As Smart As Me!


God's most highly favored prophet to ever walk this earth is back once again slamming the Living Church of God and the Philadelphia Church of God for their understanding of the tribulation. He believes that both are too stupid to understand when the proper date of the tribulation is. Only he has the proper divination skills able to discern when the tribulation will hit. After all, God only speaks through the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel in this latter-day dispensation of the Churches of God. Everyone else is either too stupid to understand the signs or has deliberately chosen to ignore the proclamations of God's chosen mouthpiece. 

For 13 years now, the Great Bwana Bob continues to suffer major butthurt over LCG's refusal to follow his demands to change their teachings. If Rod Merdith were still alive, I can picture him he sould be sitting at the conference table laughing along with Doug Winnial at Bwana Bob's continual outbursts made in self-righteous anger.



The Great Tribulation starts no later than Daniel 11:39 
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PCG, just like LCG, has the Great Tribulation starting too late. 
 
Here is a statement from LCG’s Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs: 
 
THE “GREAT TRIBULATION” 
 
The Bible speaks of a time of great catastrophe, called the “Great Tribulation” (Matthew 24:21–22; Daniel 11:40–45; 12:1; Luke 21:19–36)—also called “Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:3–7). Accessed 03/02/25 
 
That “Fundamental Belief” is scripturally in error. And when I was in LCG, its evangelists Dr. Roderick C. Meredith, Dr. Doug Winnail, and Richard Ames all agreed that it was in error. And Dr. Meredith promised in a meeting with them and myself in December 2011 that LCG’s Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs would be changed before the end of January 2012 to correct it.
But, that did not happen. 
 
So, now, since PCG and LCG still officially teach that the Great Tribulation does not begin until Daniel 11:40 (which discusses the battle between the King of the North and the King of the South), they are looking for the wrong event, while overlooking the event in verse 39. 
 
Unless PCG and LCG change on this, and other significant prophetic errors they hold, they will NOT know when the Great Tribulation will begin until after it is too late for nearly all of their members to possibly flee to the place of protection that the true Philadelphian Christians will be protected at. 
 
Now, many of you know that one of the reasons I left LCG was not only its refusal to keep promises, but because of its position on the ‘Falling Away.’ In 2012, it declared officially that the falling away was not real Christians falling away from the truth, but non-COG professors of Christ falling further away from the truth. Its evangelist Dr. Douglas Winnail went so far as to declare 1) that doctrinal change would set LCG apart from others and 2) one was under Satan’s power if one did not accept the change. 
 
I did not accept the change and worked for the last several months I was in LCG to show the evangelists there why this change was wrong–yet they would not get rid of it, so I had to leave.
As it turns out, over 11 years later, LCG’s presiding evangelist Gerald Weston, published a new position on the falling away, one much closer to what I had told LCG. While I applauded that correction, I would state that this once again validates my position that LCG is primarily a Laodicean group. 
 
How so? 
 
LCG had claimed its heretical 2012 falling away change was how it defined itself and one had to be under Satanic deception not to accept it. Then 11 years later, LCG later admitted that it was wrong. That means that all who remained in LCG those 11 years either accepted the heresy or supported a group that defined itself by a heresy they did not accept. Since that heretical doctrine was how LCG officially defined itself, accepting that was not Philadelphian, but Laodicean. I refused to be in a church that defined itself by heresy. The fact that LCG no longer does as it did, does not change the fact that it did for over a decade. Plus, it still has other heresies, but at least it does not define its distinctiveness by them. 
 
There are serious theological and prophetic differences between various groups calling themselves Church of God. 
 
Jesus warned that most endtime Christians would be Laodicean and NOT take the proper spiritual steps to be protected from the coming “hour of trial” (Revelation 3:10).

Tuesday, April 8, 2025

AiCOG: Herbie and the Atheist Factory: How Armstrongism Breeds Disbelief

 


A Cult That Churns Out Atheists

Herbert Armstrong founded the Worldwide Church of God with a bold promise: to create true Christians, a chosen remnant who would follow the "one true faith" and inherit God’s Kingdom. He preached that only his teachings—rooted in Old Testament laws and a rejection of mainstream Christianity—led to salvation. It was a stark choice: follow Herbie’s narrow path, or be cast out as a heretic, no better than a godless nonbeliever. This rigid dichotomy defined Armstrongism, a movement that claimed to be the sole bastion of truth in a world of deception.

But here’s the bitter irony: Armstrongism doesn’t produce devout Christians. It’s a factory for atheists, driving members to reject faith entirely after escaping its grip. The cult’s legalism, fear-based control, and dismissal of all other beliefs create a brittle faith that shatters under scrutiny. For every loyalist clinging to Herbie’s teachings, dozens walk away from both Armstrongism and God altogether, their belief crushed by spiritual abuse. We’ll explore how Armstrong’s legacy has churned out disbelief, turning would-be believers into atheists through its toxic mechanisms.

The False Dichotomy: Herbert’s Way or The Highway

Herbie wielded a false dichotomy like a weapon: follow his way, or you’re as lost as a nonbeliever. He taught that mainstream Christianity—Easter, Christmas, Sunday worship—was a satanic counterfeit, rendering its practitioners no better than atheists. Old Man Herb even claimed nonbelievers might have a better shot at salvation than those following a corrupted faith, because they weren’t actively defying God with false worship. There was no middle ground: either you accepted his truth—Saturday Sabbath, Old Testament festivals, rejection of "pagan" holidays—or your faith was meaningless.

This "my way or the highway" mindset was about control, not faith. Armstrongism demanded total allegiance to Herbie’s rules, leaving no room for individual conviction. Question the Sabbath? You’re out. Celebrate Christmas? You’re out. Consider mainstream Christianity? You’re out. Only a tiny elite who followed Herbert without deviation knew the real path to salvation, while everyone else—from Baptists to nonbelievers—was equally lost. This pressure cooker didn’t build resilient Christians; it made faith so suffocating that, for many, the only escape was atheism—not because they rejected God outright, but because Herbie’s version of God was unbearable

Legalism Over Love: A Faith That Crushes

The engine of Armstrongism’s atheist factory is its legalism. Old Man Herb taught that true Christianity meant strict adherence to Old Testament laws—Sabbath-keeping, dietary restrictions, festival observance—while rejecting "pagan" practices like Easter. This was a mandate, enforced with threats of disfellowshipment and eternal damnation. A single misstep—like eating pork—could sever your connection to God, leaving you as lost as any nonbeliever. Faith became a checklist of dos and don’ts, with no room for grace.

This legalistic grind eroded faith. Ex-members describe the exhaustion of living under Herbie’s rules: every action scrutinized, every holiday a minefield. The Cult demanded up to 30% of income in triple tithes, leaving families strained while Rich Man Herb lived in luxury—private jets, a Pasadena mansion, gold-plated offices—a hypocrisy that fueled disillusionment. When faith is just a performance—keep the Sabbath, shun Easter—there’s no space for a personal connection to God. Love and joy were replaced by fear and guilt. For many, this hollow Christianity became unbearable. When they broke free, they didn’t seek a new faith—they rejected faith entirely, associating God with the control they’d endured. Armstrongism didn’t make them Christians; it made them atheists.

Isolation and Fear: Cutting Off Alternatives

Armstrongism’s isolation tactics further fuel its atheist production line. Herbie dismissed all other forms of worship as pagan abominations, teaching that mainstream Christianity was a satanic counterfeit. By labeling Easter and Sunday worship as godless, he ensured followers saw no viable path outside the Cult, with Herbie as the sole arbiter of truth. Members were taught to shun "worldly" influences—family, friends, other churches—leaving them dependent on Armstrongism. The world became a spiritual wasteland, with the Cult as the only oasis.

This bred a fragile faith that couldn’t survive outside the Cult. When members left, often after years of abuse, they faced a stark reality: the world they were taught to fear was just human. Having been told all other faiths were false, many didn’t seek a new church; they abandoned faith altogether. The Cult’s fear-based control—disfellowshipment for dissent, end-times panic, threats of eternal punishment—left them spiritually scarred. For every person who found a new belief system, countless others became atheists, unable to separate God from the terror Herbie instilled. Armstrongism’s isolation didn’t create Christians—it created exiles who rejected faith entirely.

The Breaking Point: When Faith Shatters

The tipping point for many was realizing Herbie’s promises were empty. His failed prophecies—like the 1972 Great Tribulation—exposed cracks in his divine authority, yet the Cult doubled down. Ex-members recall the moment they saw through the façade: Herb’s lavish lifestyle while they struggled to pay tithes; the control tactics like the Visiting Program, exposed as a surveillance tool in a previous article; the endless rules that left no joy. When they questioned doctrine, they were cast out, labeled heretics for daring to think for themselves.

This rejection often led to a complete loss of faith. Having been taught Armstrongism was the only true path, ex-members faced a brutal choice: cling to a system they no longer believed in, or abandon faith entirely. Many chose the latter. The Cult’s collapse in the 1990s, after doctrinal reforms under Joseph Tkach, saw 75% of its 100,000 members leave. Some joined splinters, but many walked away from religion altogether, becoming atheists—not because they rejected God outright, but because Herbie’s version of God was so tied to control and fear that they couldn’t imagine faith without it. Herbie’s factory produced atheists, its rigid system a conveyor belt to disbelief.

A Dying Cult: Attrition and the Loss of Youth

Armstrongism’s atheist factory isn’t just a past failure—it’s a present crisis. The Cult’s numbers have plummeted since its 1980s peak, with splinters like PCG, UCG, COGTE, RCG, and others claiming to carry Herbie’s torch but dwindling as ex-members share their stories online. A 2018 survey by the International Cultic Studies Association found that 40% of ex-members of high-control groups like the Cult abandon religion altogether, compared to 15% who join another faith. But the real death knell is the loss of second- and third-generation youth. These kids, raised in Armstrongism’s suffocating rules, often reject it as soon as they can. They see the hypocrisy, feel the fear, and witness the failed prophecies—like Herbie’s end-times predictions that never came true. Most don’t stick around; they leave, and many become atheists, unable to reconcile faith with the control they grew up under. Armstrongism is dying from attrition, its legacy not a thriving remnant but a generation of disbelief.

Herbie’s True Legacy

Herbert Armstrong promised to create true Christians, but his Worldwide Church of God became an atheist factory, churning out disbelief through legalism, fear, and isolation. His "my way or the highway" rhetoric left members with no room to grow or question. When they broke free, many rejected faith entirely, unable to separate God from the control they endured. Second- and third-generation youth are fleeing, accelerating Armstrongism’s decline through attrition. Herbie’s legacy isn’t a remnant of believers—it’s a generation of atheists, their faith shattered by a cult that valued rules over relationship. For AiCOG readers, this is a stark reminder: HWA’s highway leads not to salvation, but to spiritual desolation.


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Friday, March 28, 2025

Crackpot Prophet: How Dare You Believe John Ritenbaugh Over Me! Only I Have Correct Biblical Interpretation!

 

Our most highly favored prophet of God is not happy today that John Ritenbaugh does not believe the same as he does and DARES to tell his people the opposite! In fact, the Great Bwana believes that Ritenbaugh is personally attacking him. Everyone that keeps picking on our Lil' Boo had better stop it right now!

The Great Bwana is particularly indignant over this by Ritenbaugh:

Zephaniah 2:1-3
(1) Gather yourselves together, yes, gather together,
O undesirable nation,
(2) Before the decree is issued,
Or the day passes like chaff,
Before the LORD’s fierce anger comes upon you,
Before the day of the LORD’s anger comes upon you!
(3) Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD’s anger.
New King James Version 
 
Some in the church of God today teach that just because a person is part of a certain group, he will escape this wrath. However, the mention of fleeing implies a generality rather than a promise given as an absolute certainty. According to traditions retained from history, all of the apostles except for John suffered violent deaths from persecution.

Are we more deserving of safety than they were? Paul writes in Romans 14:12, “So then, each of us shall give account of himself to God.” Revelation 2:23 confirms individual judgment during Christ’s evaluation of the Thyatira church, without a doubt part of His church: “I will kill her children with death, and all the church shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.” 
 
We must not allow ourselves to think presumptuously that we deserve to be hidden. God is the Master, and we are slaves bought at a price with Christ’s blood. He is the Master Potter, forming and shaping us into the character image of Jesus Christ. If He determines that we need the shaping that Tribulation will bring, then He will not hesitate to set that path before us. If He believes we need to glorify Him before men, He will do the same. …
— John W. Ritenbaugh

This has just frosted Bwana Bob's holy butt big time right now. The Great Bwana sees Ritenbaugh's comments above as a direct attack:

Since it is the Continuing Church of God that most directly teaches about Zephaniah 2:1-3, CGG’s improper and misworded comments are mainly directed towards the CCOG. Yet, CGG is misunderstanding the Bible and the CCOG here.

Everything is ALWAYS about Bob! Because of his great knowledge and that farce of a double blessing, he and only he has the correct interpretation of Scripture and proceeds to tell us EXACTLY what Zephaniah meant to say:

First of all, the fact that God told Zephaniah to write to “gather together,” this shows some grouping is involved.

Welp, one guess as to WHICH grouping is involved? It's Dave Pack!!!!!! Oh, wait, wrong prophet. It's Lil'Boo's group, the improperly named "continuing" Church of God the ONLY TRUE Philadelphia remnant left on earth today practicing 1st century Christianity!

What group? 
 
According to Jesus, it is the Philadelphian Christians who are promised protection Revelation 3:7-13, not other Christians. 
 
We do NOT teach that claiming membership in CCOG means one will be protected. CGG’s denouncement was improper and overly broad. 
 
Yes, CGG is right that this protection is based on individual factors, yet the FACT is that a gathering together is prophesied, which means in the end their will be a particular group. 
 
Second, there will be a an absolute fleeing per Revelation 12:14-16, and not all Christians will per Revelation 12:17. 
 
Thirdly, the correct understanding of Zephaniah 2:1-3 is that in the end times, Christians are instructed to gather together with the group that God will have a decree issued in, and that if people heed that and other scriptures, they can be hidden/protected from what is coming.

Sadly, given these perilous and rebellious end times, 99.999999999999999999999% of humanity ignores the Great Bwana and he is not happy!

Notice further that Jesus said to watch and pray ALWAYS. He was referring to prophetic matters. THIS CAME FROM JESUS, BUT MANY SCOFF AT PROPHECY for differing reasons (cf. 2 Peter 3:1-7)–yet being a scoffer of prophecy is a mistake (cf. 2 Peter 3:8-9).

How could people SCOFF at his false prophecies? Seriously, how could you? Jesus spoke about you, rebellious cretins! Jesus said that in these perilous end times, people would ignore the Great Bwana Bob:

Jesus realized that if people did not pay attention to prophecy and pray always, they would not properly take the steps to “be counted worthy to escape all these things.”

Dare to ignore our Lil' Boo and you will NOT be counted worthy to escape to that hellhole that Petra will become as various COG factions fight over who will be in charge. If Bob suffers butthurt now, imagine when everyone in Petra ignores him!

Jesus specifically told the Laodiceans, in a prophecy, that they needed to repent (Revelation 3:19) or face consequences (Revelation 3:14-19), and that they would be rewarded for doing so (Revelation 3:20). The Laodiceans are Church of God Christians “who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ” (Revelation 12:17). 
 
Hence, the late John Ritenbaugh looks to be misleading in what he was implying and writing.

Everyone else is always wrong. Infallible Bob to the rescue!

The Great Bwana is particularly incensed over scoffers that mock him. Oh, noes!!!!!!!

The prophet may make the decree personally and/or pass it on to another authority in the church to make. 
 
Who is the only Church of God in the 21st century to teach all of this? 
 
The Continuing Church of God. 
 
If you are not with the group that is leading the final phase of the workwill you not be able to flee if you wait until the last moment? While that may be remotely possible for some, remember that God inspired Zephaniah to admonish God’s people to ‘gather together…before the decree is issued.’ 

Notice how the Great Bwana says below how ALL COG prophets are false, except for him.  

Most will discount this and many will scoff. Most COGs do not have anyone considered to be a prophet, and in those other than CCOG who claim to have prophets, those prophets have been proven to be false (e.g. PCG, CGPFKG, TPM). But the Bible says that there will be prophets in the last days and that God does communicate with them in dreams.
 
Furthermore, I read a post a while back from a CCOG scoffer who picked at the very idea that one should suggest that a COG is Philadelphian and those, part of such a COG, will be subject to being protected in a place of safety. He and many others do not realize how important Jesus’ teaching about paying attention to world events and prophecy is. 
 
Let me add that like many COG groups CGG does not seem to officially teach the idea of “church eras.” Those that are unwilling to accept the idea of church eras, have tended to misunderstand Jesus’ teachings to the seven churches and will not, unless they change, accept the related truths today. Many do not realize that not teaching church eras was one of the first changes in doctrine implemented by the Tkach Administration after the death of Herbert Armstrong.

If you are not convinced by now that our Lil'Boo is the biggest and best prophet the church has ever seen, then you will NOT qualify for Petra! Lazy Laodiceans!

We in the Continuing Church of God boldly teach the need for Philadelphians to be ‘gathering together’ today. Will you heed God’s instructions as the Prophet Zephaniah was inspired to write? Would you possibly like to be protected? If so, will you ‘gather together’?


 

 

Tuesday, March 25, 2025

AI-COG: Jon Brisby Fabricating New Version Of COG History

 




Response To A Delusional Commenter
A Commenter's Audacious Fiction

A Jon Brisby proponent recently commented on my "Dropping the Baton" article, at Banned by HWA! spinning a bold counter-narrative to the Worldwide Church of God’s succession story. They argue that Herbert W. Armstrong’s divine baton didn’t pass to Joseph W. Tkach in 1986, as outlined in the May 1986 Good News Magazine piece "Passing the Baton," but to Raymond Cole in 1975, then to Brisby in 2001. Their timeline splits Armstrongism into eras: 1934-1974 as the WCG’s “truth” phase under Herbert, a “prophesied departure” in 1974, and Cole’s Church of God, The Eternal (COGTE) as the true heir, upholding doctrines like Monday Pentecost and strict Divorce and Remarriage (D&R) rules. Tkach’s Worldwide and later splinters—United, Philadelphia, Living—are dismissed as apostate, while COGTE claims a baton lineage from Moses to Joshua, Elijah to Elisha, Christ to Peter, even tossing in 1 Samuel 15:26 to suggest HWA lost favor.

This isn’t just a quibble—it’s a brazen rewrite of Armstrongist history. But it’s a mirage, a flimsy fiction propped up by cherry-picked scripture and a rejection of Herbert Armstrong’s own actions. Here’s the truth: there’s never been a biblical baton passing based on doctrine—succession follows divine appointment and death, not dogmatic disputes. COGTE didn’t inherit the baton; they dropped it in 1975 when Cole split, forging a cultish splinter that hijacks Armstrong’s name without his mandate. This exposĂ© dismantles their claim, proving COGTE’s “baton grab” is a delusion—another fracture in Armstrongism’s crumbling edifice.

The WCG’s Baton: Herbert to Tkach, Not Cole

Let’s ground this in reality. The Worldwide Church of God’s "Passing the Baton" article, published after Herbert Armstrong’s death on January 16, 1986, is crystal clear: HWA, the “first human leader of God’s Church during this Philadelphia era”, handpicked Joseph W. Tkach as his successor. Tkach details Armstrong’s deliberate choice—backed by 1985 letters, sermons, and the Advisory Council of Elders—calling it “the passing of the baton,” a relay to “continue the race” of preaching God’s Kingdom (Matthew 24:14). Tkach, a WCG stalwart since the 1950s, climbed from deacon to evangelist, serving as Ministerial Services director before Herbert named him successor in 1981-86. This was no fluke—it was Armstrong’s final, authoritative act.

COGTE’s proponent flips this upside down, claiming the baton jumped to Raymond Cole in 1975—over a decade before HWA’s death—due to a supposed 1974 “departure” from truth. They point to a 1973 Bible study by Herbert (on COGTE’s site) and doctrines like Monday Pentecost as proof. But here’s the fatal flaw: Armstrong never passed the baton to Cole. Cole, an early Worldwide minister, split in 1975 over Pentecost’s shift from Monday to Sunday, founding COGTE as a protest, not a succession. Herbert led the Worldwide until 1986, anointing Tkach, not Cole. There’s never been a biblical precedent for a baton passing over doctrine—succession comes from the leader’s choice at life’s end, as with Moses or Elijah. COGTE’s tale is a splinter’s daydream, not HWA’s relay.

The 1974 “Departure”: A Fabricated Pivot

The commenter hinges their case on 1974, alleging a “prophesied departure” when HWA’s Worldwide abandoned “truth” (e.g., Monday Pentecost). They nod to a 1973 Bible study by Armstrong as evidence of this fall. But what’s the real story? In 1974, after internal debate, Herbert shifted Pentecost to Sunday, aligning with Leviticus 23:15-16’s “day after the Sabbath” (a move backed by scholars like J.H. Hertz). Cole, a doctrinal hardliner, balked—along with softening D&R rules—and bolted, forming COGTE in rebellion to Worldwide’s leadership. The WCG didn’t collapse; it grew under Armstrong, growing to 100,000+ members, with The Plain Truth hitting millions. No, this 1973 bible study doesn’t predict a “departure”—it’s COGTE’s retroactive spin.

Contrast this with "Passing the Baton." Tkach’s 1986 succession followed decades of loyalty, sealed by Armstrong’s explicit blessing in 1985-86, not a speculative 1975 leap. Cole’s exit was a schism, not a handoff—Armstrong didn’t retire or die in 1974; he ruled for another 12 years, naming Tkach. Biblical baton passings—Joshua after Moses’ death (Deuteronomy 34:9), Elisha after Elijah’s ascent (2 Kings 2:13)—happen at the leader’s end, not mid-tenure over doctrine. COGTE’s 1974 myth is a convenient lie, a splinter’s excuse to dodge Herbert’s final word.

Biblical Precedent: Doctrine Never Passes the Baton

COGTE’s claim—that the baton shifts due to doctrinal fidelity—crumbles under scripture. The commenter cites Moses to Joshua, Elijah to Elisha, and Christ to Peter, but these prove the opposite: succession is about divine appointment and timing, not dogma. Let’s break it down:

  • Moses to Joshua: God told Moses to commission Joshua (Numbers 27:18-23) at his death, not over a policy spat. Joshua led post-Moses, not midstream (Deuteronomy 31:14). Doctrine—e.g., the Law—stayed intact; the baton wasn’t about tweaks.

  • Elijah to Elisha: Elijah anointed Elisha (1 Kings 19:19-21), passing his mantle at death (2 Kings 2:13-14). No doctrinal rift prompted it—Elijah’s mission continued seamlessly. Herbert didn’t anoint Cole; he outlasted him by years.

  • Christ to Peter: Jesus chose Peter (Matthew 16:18) post-resurrection, not mid-ministry over a teaching dispute. Peter’s role held despite his flaws (e.g., denying Christ), not dogma shifts.

Their 1 Samuel 15:26—“the Lord has rejected you”—is a misfire. Samuel rejected Saul for disobedience (sacrificing wrongly), but HWA wasn’t “rejected” in 1974; he built Ambassador Auditorium, preached globally, and led until 1986. Scripture never shows a baton passing because of doctrine—Korah’s rebellion over priestly rules (Numbers 16) ended in divine wrath, not succession. Cole’s 1975 split is Korah redux: a rival altar, not a relay. There’s never been a biblical handoff over dogma—COGTE’s premise is heresy, not history.

Doctrinal Purity: A Splinter’s Burden, Not Herbert’s Baton

The commenter insists the baton rests on “truth”—Monday Pentecost, strict D&R—casting Tkach and splinters as traitors. But Armstrong’s own record guts this. Herbert evolved doctrines—Pentecost in 1974, healing rules in the 1960s (softening “no doctors”), even British Israelism’s prominence by the 1980s—claiming revelation each time. If HWA could adapt, why not Tkach? COGTE clings to a 1930s-1970s snapshot, ignoring Herbert’s later shifts. The WCG’s 1986 baton to Tkach honored Armstrong’s final vision—change, not stasis. COGTE’s “purity” is a self-imposed yoke, not Herbert’s legacy.

Monday Pentecost? HWA’s 1974 change wasn’t apostasy—Hebrew scholars (e.g., Hertz’s Pentateuch) support Sunday. D&R? Herbert loosened it by the 1970s (e.g., Garner Ted’s remarriages), clashing with COGTE’s rigidity. If the baton demands doctrinal freeze, Armstrong dropped it himself—COGTE’s obsession is their burden, not his baton. There’s never been a scriptural shift of authority over teachings; succession trumps dogma every time.

The Tkach Era: Demise or Relay’s Next Leg?

The commenter labels 1986-1995 as Worldwide’s “demise” under Tkach, who embraced the Trinity, Sunday worship, and evangelical norms by 1995. Membership tanked—75% fled to splinters or quit—but was it failure? Tkach’s WCG, now Grace Communion International (GCI), boasts 50,000+ members, dwarfing COGTE’s hundreds. "Passing the Baton" vowed acceleration; Tkach delivered, pivoting to a broader faith Herbert didn’t foresee but couldn’t stop. COGTE’s pre-1986 split—1975—freezes them in amber, not progress. Splinters like United (10,000+) or PCG (5,000+) at least waited for HWA’s death—COGTE bailed mid-race, baton nowhere in sight.

Tkach’s baton wasn’t apostasy—it was adaptation, a relay leg Armstrong’s death enabled. COGTE’s doctrinal fetish stalls them—where’s their Matthew 24:14 witness? There’s never been a biblical baton yanked for doctrine; it passes at the leader’s end, as with Joshua or Peter. Tkach ran; COGTE stumbled.

COGTE’s Scale: A Baton for a Puddle?

If COGTE holds the baton, where’s the proof? Armstrong’s Worldwide hit 100,000+, blanketing the globe via radio and print. COGTE, since 1975, limps along with a few hundred under Brisby—sermons for a clique, not nations. "Passing the Baton" ties the race to Matthew 24:14—worldwide preaching. Armstrong tried; Tkach’s GCI persists. COGTE’s insular purity shrinks their “baton” to a splinter’s shard, a far cry from Herbert’s vision. Other splinters—UCG, PCG—outpace them in reach and numbers. COGTE’s “true Church” is a puddle, not a proclamation—biblical batons build nations (Israel, the Church), not niches.

Revisionism’s Cultish Core

COGTE’s baton grab is cult psychology 101—denying reality, rewriting history to fit a delusion. HWA’s 1986 succession to Tkach is fact: documented in letters, sermons, and the WCG’s Council. Cole’s 1975 split lacks Armstrong’s nod—it’s a self-coronation, like a prophet claiming visions no one else sees. The commenter’s splinter snub—“not associated with COGTE”—apes HWA’s “one true Church” mantra, but without his scale or sanction. The 1974 “departure” is denial, a refusal to face Herbert’s choice of Tkach over Cole’s dissent.

Armstrongism’s flaw shines here: authority hinges on one man, not scripture or consensus. HWA’s baton to Tkach was his last call—COGTE’s grab spits on it, stealing his name while defying his will. There’s never been a biblical baton passed midstream over doctrine; it’s a cultish rewrite, not a relay.

A Challenge to COGTE: Honor Herbert or Abandon Him

To Brisby, his defender, and COGTE: if Armstrong was God’s servant, his 1986 baton to Tkach demands obedience. Scripture ties succession to death (Deuteronomy 31:14), not doctrinal squabbles—Cole’s 1975 exit was rebellion, not relay. Armstrong led post-1974, anointing Tkach, not Cole. Honor Herbert’s final act, as Joshua did Moses, or admit you’ve forged a new path, not carried his. Clinging to a 1974 phantom—neither following Herbert’s end nor ditching his shadow—is cowardice. There’s never been a baton passed for doctrine—rejoin the race under GCI leadership or forsake Armstrong’s husk. Your claim’s a lie—face it or flee it.

Conclusion: A Warning to All Splinters in Armstrongism’s Dust

This rebuttal of the commenter’s assertion—that Herbert’s baton leapt to Cole in 1975, then Brisby in 2001—exposes a revisionist mirage, but it’s not just their tale that crumbles. Armstrong’s 1986 handoff to Tkach, etched in his own words and the Worldwide Church of God’s record, stands as the final relay, crushing Cole’s 1975 defection and every splinter’s claim to legitimacy. Scripture demands succession, not schism—there’s never been a baton passed over doctrine, only at a leader’s end. History proves Herbert’s reign outlasted dissenters; COGTE’s purity, like that of United, Philadelphia, Living, and others, shrinks them to irrelevance. They didn’t catch the baton—they dropped it, each forging cultish echoes in Armstrongism’s wilderness. For AiCOG readers, this isn’t an attack on COGTE— it was merely highlighted here due to a commenter’s challenge—but a warning to all splinters: your revisions don’t preserve Herbert’s race; they shatter it, proving the baton’s fall lies in your collective denial.


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