Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Sinners In The Hands of Rod Meredith's Constantly Angry "god"


In a letter from Rod Meredith to his followers dated April 16, 2013 he has the following postscript.
It is in regards to the Boston bombings.  It is all about how America is being punished by the angry pissed-off god that Rod believes in and whom he wants to see dish out destruction upon all sinners. Death and destruction seems to be constantly on his mind, at least when sex is not being discussed.

P.S. My friends, just as I was finishing writing this letter, news came of the terrible attack at the Boston Marathon. So far, we know that at least three people were killed and over 175 were seriously injured. It was obviously a terrorist attack—involving either homegrown or international terrorism. But the lesson we need to think about here is that we have warned you again and again that—unless America and the British-descended peoples turn to the God of the Bible, He will severely punish our peoples for our own good. Almighty God warned our forefathers—as I have cited many times—“But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments, and if you despise My statutes, or if your soul abhors My judgments, so that you do not perform all My commandments, but break My covenant, I also will do this to you: I will even appoint terror over you, wasting disease and fever which shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart. And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it” (Leviticus 26:14-16). The Hebrew word “terror” can well be translated “terrorism”! And the wasting diseases such as AIDS, cancer and related diseases are certainly beginning to strike down our people with increasing frequency. Yet we have not repented! The God of the Bible seems “far off” to most people. But He will get their attention as these various attacks and calamities will come upon us with increasing frequency unless we begin to realize why things are all “going wrong” for the United States and the British-descended peoples—the peoples who were given the opportunity to send out more Bibles, more missionaries and medical workers than any peoples on earth. We have had much of the knowledge of God. But we have now forsaken our Creator by our actions and our “lawless” acts even in condoning “same-sex marriage”! We are showing Almighty God personally and officially how we “despise” His statutes and His Ten Commandments. May God help us to wake up and realize why these disasters are happening and turn back to the God of the Bible!

Monday, April 29, 2013

Ron Weinland: Did His Mother and Sister Leave His Pathetic Cult?




Mike is reporting on the Don't Drink the Flavor Aid: False Prophet Ron Weinland blog that he received the following comment to one of his postings:  Ron’s House of Cards

The following was left in a comment on the previous post.
Greetings,
It is with deep regret that I have to inform everyone that Ramona Weinland, Scott and Kris Cameron have chosen to leave the Church of God – PKG and have thereby chosen to leave the fellowship of God’s people.  They are disfellowshipped from God’s Church.
Beth Bucheit
Sr. Elder the COG-PKG
I don’t have verification but it seems authentic.  If true, it calls Steve Dalrymple’s position in PKG into question, as he has been the Cincinnati senior elder for some time and before that one of Ron’s flunkies so if a recently promoted female senior elder is doing this …..

So the list of possible but not necessarily confirmed defectors includes:
  • Ramona Weinland, Ron’s own mother
  • Kris Cameron, Ron’s sister
  • Scott Cameron, Ron’s brother in law
  • Ralph Dowd, long time member
  • April Combs, long time member
  • Hope Henson, long time member
  • Donna Kautz, long time member
  • Chris Little, Ron’s son-in-law (though the legality of his marriage to Audra is in doubt considering how Ron handled their marriage certificate)
These are all long time PKG members, and include Ron’s family and senior elders in PKG.  I hope this list is true, and will soon expand to include more from PKG.

It always fascinated me on how many family members follow their "daddy" cult leaders just because they are family.  The only ones who had any brains to buck that trend were Herbert Armstrong's daughters and Dave Pack's sons.  After years of suffering abuse at the hand of their father, both families left.

I realize familial ties are great, even more so in Armstrongism.  The problem lies in the fact that family members have seen and witnessed the inner workings of their dad/relative leaders.  They know the garbage that these frauds pass off as "god inspired."  They have seen the lies, the manipulation, the power issues, the mental health issues, and suffered at the hands of their dad/relatives - sometimes mentally, physically and spiritually; yet they still give loyal support.

I hope it is true that Ron’s mother and sister have left.  This will certainly give more people the courage to walk away from the rotten filth that Ron spouts as “god inspired.”

Dennis On: "This Will Be Like Nothing I Have Ever Quite Taught This Way Before...."





"This Will Be Like Nothing I Have Ever Quite Taught This Way Before...."


The Bewildered Apostle asks:


" Why do no other leaders understand ANY of the awesome and incredibly detailed prophecy that I am about to present—the what, when, where and how this reunification will occur?"



Because you're making it up?



Because they have a strong feeling it is just cleverly hidden proof-texting  
that always comes back and points to Dave Pack?



Because you are not a likeable person in real life?



Because they have read the experiences of others 
and their shelf life with you seems limited?



Because the few who left one COG to align themselves with your COG 
seem to disappear into the void after they confess you?



Because you are arrogant in your presentation and demeanor?



Because you use the word "awesome" to often?



Because you have said three of them will die all on the same day 
and that will prove you to be awesome?



Because working with and for you may increase 
their Rolaids budget too much?



Because working with and for you may get between them
 and their meager savings?



Because saying "yes sir, whatever you say sir," 
makes them feel like shit not actually agreeing with you?



Because when their wives say, 
"You gonna let that guy tell you everything to do, think and believe?" 
and it will make them feel emasculated and weak?



Because they think you just make it up as you go?
...oh sorry, already said that. 



Because like your incredibly detailed sermon on 
"And Yes Brethren, I am an Apostle" 
will make their asses sore listening 4 hours to the incredible details 
and not actually see how those incredible details are connected in reality?



Because you love the kind of member and minister that says, 
"whatever you say" and they don't?



Because you are one of the most arrogant human beings ever
 not actually called to be "the leader" they have ever read or met? 



Because you have left a trail of tears and drama behind every place 
you have ever been or landed? 



Because it really is all about the numbers?



Because they know they would have to 
check their own brains at your door?



Because they have already learned that fair speeches 
with conviction and pizzaz do not truth make?




More Apostolic Opinage:



"So obviously, for God’s people to be together, ALL organizations but ONE must “go away,” meaning everyone must leave them to enter that ONE organization—the ONE Church that Christ built. Continue thinking at the most basic level. EVERY splinter leader would support this, but of course only if HE led that one organization."



Because when you say, "think at the most basic level," as you do, 
they know you mean, 
"Come on simpletons not as wise as me, this is not rocket science."?



Because they are pretty sure you are the one who will 
come out on top as the leader and that is a no-show?



Because when you say "every splinter leader would support this
...if HE lead that one organization,"
 really means, 
"They won't come to ME as the leader of Christ's one true church."?



Because, as far as they and I remember, 
you never could work for anyone very long in your life 
before it all blew up and it seems you aren't happy, 
or ever have been unless you run everything 
and get the credit for the awesomeness of it all?




The Awesome Apostle thrills with:



"Next Friday I will start bringing the scriptural details of the prophecy revealing that all of God’s people will soon be back together. In time this will include exactly HOW and WHEN this will occur. The first elements of this “explaining” process will take three or four Friday announcements."



Perhaps they fear "the scriptural details of THE PROPHECY, 
will be a mish-mash of long winded explanations, analogies, 
types and bullshit badly woven together into a out of date garment?



Perhaps they understand you have mastered the art of making non-prophecy 
mean what it never meant and prophecy 'so called' 
apply to you when of course it does not?



Perhaps they are concerned yet another "HOW" and "WHEN"  
is just more not really that way or now yet ?



Because some even realize you are not actually a trained theologian 
but rather a spiffy Bible Reader who doesn't even know the context of
 "Line upon line, line upon line, here a little , there a little," 
which is NOT a formula for how to study the Bible?

(Hint: God is mocking with baby talk what the priests 
say and do in their drunken state.) 



Because they don't want to be brought back together 
under your leadership in the first place?



Because some think you will drag this out to August when ...well you know?




The Apostle predicts our reactions:



"The announcements of coming weeks and months will shock you beyond imagination!"



But what if they are already burned out on the overarching,
 awesome, incredible and amazing past stuff 
you proclaimed and can't get it up for more?



What if they can imagine more than you can imagine they can imagine?



What if they wonder if you know all the announcements already 
why not get to the point and save them some gas money?



What if after all this all most can come up with is 
"Man, this is a bunch of bull shit it I ever heard it."?



What if they decide they have been too hard on their pastors and leaders
 after meeting you and go back to them apologizing 
for being too judgmental and unhelpful but grateful to God 
they don't lead like you do or adopt so many titles as you need?



What if United and Living actually united and came alive?



What if being "shocked" is getting old and in hind sight, 
not all that shocking actually?



The Apostle Rejoices Over:



" Repentant ministers and many faithful splinter employees will carry on,
 serving solely in God’s Church."



What if ministers won't sign your terms of repentance forms?



What if faithful splinployees won't sign 
your terms of repentance forms?



What if repentant ministers figure out no one who ever repented into RCG 
ever got to speak or teach again publicly as far as we can tell.  
Did Dale Schurter die?



What if you can't find enough repentant splinployees to mow the grass, 
ride in the electric carts you like so much 
or polish your statue?



What if a repentant minister or fake board member 
finally wakes up someday soon and says, 
"Hell no you don't need a corporate Jet!"?



What if some repentant splinployee or treasurer 
advises Whitman Chocolates instead of Steuben???



And Finally Brethren:



"Make no mistake. The last three paragraphs are TRUE! 
Read them again, this time more carefully."



So you think we're too stupid to get it the first time?

(You'll have to give these next awesome sermons 
over a few times so we get it.)



What if we really don't want to make a mistake either 
so coming back to you makes no sense?



What if the way you spin the Old Testament in the coming weeks 
and proof text an idea you already accept 
as true turns out to not really be true?



What if we share tapes of your sermons with other theologians 
and get some input from them?



I guess we covered the arrogant part already...




I kinda like these observations, still valid today about questionable Apostles, in this case the Apostle Paul but don't take these as compliments.





Bishop John S. Spong (Episcopal Bishop of Newark)

"Paul's words are not the Words of God. They are the words of Paul- a vast difference." 


Carl Jung (Psychologist)

"Paul hardly ever allows the real Jesus of Nazareth to get a word in."


Albert Schweitzer

(Insert Apostle Dave for "he" and "Paul")

"Where possible he (Paul) avoids quoting the teaching of Jesus, in fact even mentioning it. If we had to rely on Paul, we should not know that Jesus taught in parables, had delivered the sermon on the mount, and had taught His disciples the 'Our Father.' Even where they are specially relevant, Paul passes over the words of the Lord."

David Hume

"When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities"




Because we're just gonna bet you have not bounced any 
of your prophetic ideas 
off real men (or anyone) who could really stand up and say, 
"that's the biggest load of BS I have ever heard.  
That's not what those scriptures are meant to mean. 
Have you considered a counselor"?