Rod Meredith on The Signs of the Times - 13 Years Later

Rod Meredith wrote the following in his, "I wish I had thought of this magazine..." Tomorrow's World:

Jesus Christ told the religious leaders of His day, "Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times" (Matthew 16:3).

So it is today.

Yes, so it is today, 13 years AFTER he wrote this article.  64 Years along the road where he has been spouting this same silliness day in and day out.

Many professing ministers of Jesus Christ are highly educated in the technicalities of theological jargon, Semitic languages and biblical literature. They are often very intelligent men, but in the theological seminaries they are seldom taught about the REAL God of the Bible who intervenes in human affairs, who guides the overall destiny of major nations and who will soon RULE this earth with a "rod of iron" (Revelation 19:15). 

Many professing ministers of Jesus Christ  are poorly educated in the technicalities of theological jargon, Semantic languages and biblical literature.  They are often highly intelligent men, but have been trained in the biased "theological" schools of the Church of God where they are seldom taught real biblical studies that delve into myth and metaphor and its meanings.  They are seldom taught about the God who intervenes daily in peoples lives without having to spank them for every indiscretion or beat them to death with his "rod of iron."

Yet all around us the signs of the END of this present civilization are beginning to appear. The God of creation is beginning to intervene in the weather and in bringing about major earthquakes as Jesus predicted (Matthew 24:7). The specific indications of the coming massive DISEASE EPIDEMICS are becoming more and more ominous, as you can discover in our booklet Who Controls the Weather? which will be sent to you absolutely FREE upon your request. 

For over 70 some years this is the same plodding argument spit out in magazine articles, booklets, TV programs and co-worker letters.  God is soooooooooooooo pissed that he takes great pleasure whipping up tornadoes that destroy lives and property.  Rod's god gets really excited when he can cause major quakes that kill thousands at a time.  Rod's god particularly likes to use tsunami's where he can obliterate tens of thousands of pagans in one quick swipe.

As some of us in this Work have been predicting for decades, a European Empire is indeed coming together. It will be dominated by a rearmed and revitalized Germany, as we stated long before this became obvious to the news media. It will also be mightily influenced by the great "mother church" described in Revelation 17. In fact, this European Empire will probably not take its final form until a great religious leader arises in Europe to bring it about. 

Yes Sir Rod!  Germany is rising up!  Get ready for those invading Germanic hoards that will set up concentration camps in this country, take the young virile men and nubile women off to Europe to be slaves, torture Americans with glee by hanging us on meat hooks and tying us to the bumpers of four jeeps as they take off in four different directions so they can rip us to shreds.  I remember as a youth hearing that bullshit from you!  What kind of sick mind dwells on this kind of stuff day in and day out?

Meanwhile tens of millions of "mainstream" Protestants have lost their spiritual foundations. They are all mixed up. Many now fully approve of homosexuality and even same-sex "marriages." Most of these mainstream "Christians" have "no problem" with fornication, young couples living together before marriage, "occasional" lying and cheating and the continuing murder of millions of unborn children.

Woo Hoo!  Its SEX time again.  Not a letter, article or broadcast goes by with out sex being brought into the equation.  Rampaging gays out to steal your children and embarrass you by getting married and staying together longer than many of the COG members have.  How can we forget about the fornicating youth in the Church of God, including those in your own family who sowed their wild oats before they got married.  What about the on going lying and cheating that ministers/members of your own church do on a daily basis?

The coming religious leader in Europe will quickly fill the now-apparent void in morality, and will appear to be unique in having the courage to "stem the tide" of immorality sweeping the entire western world. Many leaders of the ecumenical movement will "leap into the arms" of this charismatic figure. For he—they will think—will be the "one" to bring ALL of professing Christianity together again. He will be the one to bring about Christian unity at last! 

The new Pope so far has set a better example on what Christian charity is than you or the LCG has ever done.  You should be ashamed!  Won't it be embarrassing if the Pope actually did unify all Christians together while the remaining few thousand of Church of God members are splintered  into 700+ splinter groups all claiming they have the truth and everyone else are liars.  You had better get your own house in ordered before you condemn others!

Meanwhile, the spiritual and moral deterioration of the United States and British descended peoples will continue unabated. Our national prestige and power will keep on diminishing—unless there is a profound national REPENTANCE for sin to a degree unprecedented in modern times! In all honesty, do any of you see that kind of national repentance, humiliation and FASTING before the God of heaven coming about in the foreseeable future? 

In all honesty have we ever seen you and your church humbling yourselves and praying for and fasting for the nation? Have you sacrificed your lives to bring about change?  Your own church is a cesspool of of spiritual and moral deterioration.  When have you and your church got off your rear ends and took care of the homeless, held the hands of drug addicts and alcoholics?  When have you set down to eat with prostitutes and gays?  When have you carried on a loving relationship with other Christians outside of your group?  Many Christians talk about being the hands of Jesus in a hurting world by bringing forth the Kingdom into this world one person at a time.  From you we hear death and damnation as you say, "screw them all, they are sinful filth,  God will take care of them later."

Kitchen Family Says 9-11 Happened Because of YOUR Sins and YOUR Rejection of HWA

The holy triumvirate of HWA worship, the Kitchen family-Daddy, Timmy Jr and Sammy, say that 9-11 happened because of YOUR sins!  Dirty, filthy, pagan, sinners caused three thousand people to be killed because of sinfulness and the rejection of God's Holy Apostle HWA.

Their continued slobberfest over all things HWA is pissing off a lot of people on various Facebook pages.  They pulled this silliness some time back on other news groups and people left in droves.  In their arrogance and self-righteousness they cannot see they are doing anything wrong.  In their eyes the truly evil people are those that discredit HWA and Gerald Waterhouse.

We need to understand what God says about this day. 9/11 was a result or an effect from some cause. Leviticus 26 explains the cause, and how these curses are being enacted and by whom. What a tragedy this day represents. All those innocent lives were taken as result from OUR sins. My brother(Timothy Kitchen Jr) might post an article that was created by the news department of Ambassador College on this subject. Let us remember the cause of this great tragedy that befell the United States, and in doing so, let us change our ways according to what God(the Bible) says and let us stand on a strong foundation instead of thin ice.

The Kitchen's also think that if you dislike Herb and the church then you are rebelling against "the Creator" and will suffer great plagues as their god spanks you.

So, the bottom line is that the Called out ones will do as God says to do, and, will not fear men! Remember Rev 3:11-13, and Rev 2:10. Those that are called that fear men and dying over Fear of the Eternal are not Worthy of Christ and will have to be martyred to strengthen their Love of Christ. Those that hate God's word, and people and Work are on the wrong side and will suffer the plagues that go along with their rebellion against their Creator, as, in the end, "Everyone" will get corrected, it's just a matter of when and how you will be corrected by God Almighty. The More you show your Love to God and follow the Narrow Way (Matt 7:13-23), the more you will be persecuted and called "Religious Fanatics" and the Moore Christ will Love you and protect you as this unfolds. . As for these people that try to use this fear to terrorize you into worshiping the Beast and the Great Whore read Romans 3:9-19 and, many "MANY" other scriptures). Matt 16:25 says "For whoever seeks to save his (or her) life will lose it, and whoever loses his (or her) life fo My (Christ's) sake will find it).

The Kitchens are so off the wall that they think FEMA and others tried to recruit them to infiltrate churches  and blogs in order to destroy them.

There is a conspiracy (that word that hiders of the Truth hate) of some in the “Inter Faith” FEMA Continuity of Government “COG” movement to infiltrate churches, groups sabotage, and take over these churches and groups, web sites, blogs, etc. You would call them wild conspiracy theories , but, My family and I were recruited by their secret government leaders for this purpose. We flatly refused (as we Obey Christ, not, man) and are exposing those doing it. This may be how this group got off track. Well, maybe it should get back on track.

Their "I Love Gerald Waterhouse" Facebook page is here.

Their  "Holding Fast to Herbert" Facebook page is here.

Their "Herbert Can Do No Wrong" Facebook page is here.

Their "Elijah Herb" Facebook page is here.

Their "Bible Fallacies" Facebook page is here.

Their "Christ Was Too Lazy For 1,900 To Preserve His Word" Facebook page is here.

Ron Weinland: Through the Ordination of My Crazy Wife the Curse of Eve Has Been Lifted

Ron Weinland, aka Weinerdude, the imprisoned Church of God leader and false prophet, has released another missive about the roll of women in his cult.

Ron had some time ago, raised his loony wife to the position of #2 of the Two Witless Witnesses.  Laura is now on par with the position of Weinerdude in the church.  She was to hold this prophetic office in the end times.

What these too crazy idiots failed to realize or foresee, was that Ron would soon be sitting in jail for a prophetic three and one half years for tax evasion.  After years of spending money on trips to Vegas, furs and diamonds, the IRS finally caught up with Ron.  Loony Laura and equally weird Audra were raised up to carry on Weinerdude's ministry.

It appears that some men in Weinerdude's cult are having an issue with Witless Witness Laura and Money Manipulator Audra telling them what to do.  After gallivanting around Europe this summer where they were not exactly received warmly, Ron has had to correct his dwindling flock.

He writes:

God has revealed that now and on into the Millennium, the “basic” structure for family will still be the husband as the head of the wife. Yet even now, God has already begun to reveal that His structure of government in the family is “fully spiritual,” and it is to be administered spiritually. Ordination of women magnifies the true administration of how God’s government is to work (function) within the Church and within the family. The structure for government in the Church is by ordination, and it is to always be administered spiritually. Within the Church, there is an order of structure for the “administration” of God’s ways. Most are familiar with that structure as it currently begins with an elder, then evangelist, prophet, and then an apostle.

Every time a false prophet in Armstrongism has a prophetic failure it has to be "spiritualized" away.  While it did not happen "literally," it happened "spiritually."

Did you know that when an ordination happens it changes the way the Holy Spirit works in the church and in the family?

God’s people are coming to more clearly “see” that the administration of God’s ways (government, laws, etc.) are spiritual in how they are to be practiced and lived within the Church and within the family. Ordination also reveals the way (or flow) of how God’s spirit can (and does) change the order of God’s government, not only in the Church, but also in a family. An individual who is ordained from a sr. elder to an evangelist affects the way (the flow, the order) of how God’s spirit works (administers God’s ways) within the Church. Any other raise in ordination does likewise. The same is true in a family. If a wife in a family is ordained to an elder (and the husband is not), this affects the way – the flow – the order – of how God’s spirit works (administers God’s ways) within the family. 

In the very near future, sermons will be given and booklets written that expound upon this principle, just as such has happened in times past utilizing the guidelines given by Paul to husbands and wives.

Through Weinerdude himself, the "curse" of Eve has now been lifted.

Through the 53rd Truth, in which God revealed how that women could now be ordained into the ministry of His Church, God has also more fully opened “the way” for the removal of the curse that has been upon women from the beginning. This great truth alone reveals so much more about “the spirit” of marriage that will produce a much closer relationship within families and with God throughout the Millennium.

Dennis Muses: You've Been Smeckledorfed!"

What David C. Pack  Eliminated Speaks So Loud We Can't Hear What He is Now Saying

 

 

 

I believe it is important to remember what Dave Pack wants you to forget.  After all, he said he'll want you to forget this stuff, that he ever said it in the first place or that he didn't mean it to mean what you thought he meant it to mean.

 

Remember he said...

 

 

"I want to make a statement about...me...now, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me! I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...And I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere."

 

 

Well maybe Dave Pack did not go anywhere back then, but he has since and so let's be reminded of what we must forget was ever thought about the largest,  most complex and yet simple to decode prophecy about David C. Pack and the Return of the Disfellowshipped by God under one leader (guess who?) in the Bible.

 

I admit, I am not a brethren in the RCG, but someone has to do what Dave asked or he's going to deceive us all.  He told us that.  (I love that quote).   So, if no one else is going to remember it well enough to quote it right back to Dave, I guess I will for at least future posterity in such matters. 

 

 

12)   Eliminated The readers of the Haggai prophecy announcements (this is #21) who believed them would be the most disillusioned and the biggest candidates to QUIT everything if God did not return His people to one House this year! This would work directly against what God is doing—directly opposite His overall purpose.

 

 

It is easy to see why this was eliminated from the original 24 reasons in the original Announcement 21 The Time is Now!  Dave understands at least the price of being wrong, which he was.  It remains to be seen how many are dis-illusioned, which is a good thing, because who wants to be "illusioned."  Sticking with Dave is to be "Illusioned."  And yes, it would work against the purposes of RCG

13)  Eliminated Further desolation (Hag. 1:11; 2:16-17) from God of the splinter “houses” would practically wipe out the few remaining senior leaders in them. This includes pastors and elders, all of whom are NEEDED TO CARRY OUT THE BIG WORK!


Dave wanted those senior leaders to come over to him so badly  and further delay would take them out of the picture before this could come about.  Dave must now believe that these senior men will live longer and have more time to still come over to him.  Or perhaps he has given up on this ever happening, which I am sure is the safer bet.


14) Eliminated  The onset of all future years would never come with clarity—with any certainty! Would God leave thousands who are now aware of this prophecy in such a condition? Hardly.

 

 

Oops can't say this anymore!  Dave has now stated that even more clarity is coming after the screw up in "timing."  Things never before seen are now going to be seen so that's clarity alright.  Thus, this has to go.  Obviously this years failures don't muddy the waters.  They clear them up. Just you watch.

 

15) Eliminated Next, for those who will see the value of how to pursue spiritual matters, there is this: After fervently seeking God about it, not one reason the prophecy is off this year ever emerged in the minds of even one of our 16 Headquarters ministers! I (we) have NEVER prayed about, studied over, meditated on, fasted about and counseled with other ministers regarding a subject more than this one—in fact no other subject is even close! -

 

 

And isn't this a sad one?  If we leave this one Dave's crew of 16 kiss ups look like...well...kiss ups.  Dave has now learned that everyone agreeing with you is not a sign of  truth.  It's a sign of...kissing up, probably to keep status and jobs.  Dave has also learned that just because you pray, study, meditate, fast and ask other kiss..., ministers about the topic, doesn't mean you're going to get the right answer.  "Woe be unto you when all men speak good of you" and all that.  So we have to vote no on this being on how one pursues spiritual matters ever again.

16) Eliminated Similarly, as questions emerged throughout our pursuit of truth with the many details of the prophecy, so many of these details kept coming clear as direct answers to prayer. And these were often immediate.



This one has to go because once again, Dave has learned what we all knew ourselves, that details that keep coming like clear answers to prayer are no sign of anything.  You simply end up with a very detailed mistake.


17) Eliminated Recall Haggai 1:13: “Then spoke Haggai the Lord’s messenger in the Lord’s message unto the people…” Haggai is the messenger to God’s people, with what is an all-important message from God. Would not God make clear in such a unique message He describes as “the Lord’s message unto His people” the correct date for action? What kind of message would it be if people did not know WHEN TO CARRY IT OUT?

 

Here we now see that Dave has learned once and for all that "A" with God does not always lead to Dave's "B".   I would think  since the people still don't know when to carry it out, the message was flawed to begin with.  It might do Dave some good to consider that the message of Haggai never  had anything to do with him, RCG or the Splinters.  He made that all up in his head and this is why there is confusion as to the "when."   "Never" is the answer to the "when".

19) Eliminated Imagine God not revealing the year the remnant is coming—but only the day and month. Vast amounts of time would have been wasted by His leaders studying and preparing for something that was not imminent. Would God put His Church in such a position?

 

 

I can imagine it now Dave.  Can you?   I'm pretty sure you even got the day and month wrong. Evidently God has put 'His Church" in this position, maybe just for fun.  Who knows?

20) Eliminated  Of interest, God revealed to me during ELUL four years ago my role as the modern Joshua.

 

Evidently not of interest at all and eliminating this may mean Dave will have to rethink his "Joshua" fantasy.  I bet the world "Elul" will never feel good again to Dave!  It also reveals that Dave now has to wonder just what God did or did not reveal to him.  I'm going with did not.

21) Eliminated Also of interest, I and The Restored Church of God learned about the New Testament remnant last ELUL (August). Let’s ask: Would timing of when we were shown the prophecy not be tied to its unique timing of fulfillment during the very next available ELUL?

 

This one violates eliminated reason 20 because Dave knew FOUR YEARS AGO he was Joshua but kept it to himself until now. He should have revealed this the very next available ELUL!   Again, evidently it's not tied to anything Dave tied it to.  So this one had to go.  Dave is going to have to stop tying the wrong knots on his sailboat which seems blown around by various winds of doctrines he makes up.

"And I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me..."
David C. Pack

So I did...
Dennis C. Diehl