Monday, May 13, 2019

COG Members Talk About The "Dark Years (1980-1990's)" Of The Church

This was on Facebook the other day and illustrates another example of why the Armstrong Church of God movement is doomed to utter destruction.  When the current churches cannot even educate their 20 - 30-year-olds about its past history, then there is no hope for them. 

Actually, on second thought, I am GLAD the church is filled with these kinds of people.  It ensures the utter destruction of the churches! It's like reading the COG version of Dumb and Dumberer!



reprinted with permission...enjoy!
About 5 years ago, I came across a group named; "Cult Survivors of WCG/GCI the Dark Years". Most all the members were born during the 80--90's. I never posted there. It vanished a few months later. I copied some of the conversations in the group. I spent some time this morning removing names and replacing them with numbers. I ran out of time but will post more later. Enjoy. 

100; "Was Herbert Armstrong a minister or member? I heard he was terrible."
101; "Herbert, was ordained by Tkach Sr, in the mid 1970's. He split with the church in the mid 1980's. I think he died or something happened to him. He's not with GCI anymore."
102; "My mother went with Rod Meredith's church. I think Armstrong is a minister in Meredith's church." 

101; "Meredith is Herbert's grandfather."

100; "You're right 101, I remember now. Thanks."

Admin; "Armstrong was NOT related to Meredith! He was pastor of the Big Sandy local church. He died the year I was born 1986."
100; "Admin, thanks for setting the record straight. Wow, you really lived during the dark years in the cult. Thank you for setting up this group as a place to share our deep wounds we received in the cult."
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104; "This group is clueless about the old teachings. Why not just create a site called the Clueless of WCG/GCI?"
Admin; "104; you're a troll and will be removed from the group. I was born in 1986. I've lived through the strictest period in the cult."
100: "Why do trolls come into a victim's group then try to hurt our minds with their BS?"
Admin; "Some idiots get their jollies doing it. He's gone now."
100; "he reminded me of the other troll from last week. Telling everyone they used to pay three tithes. What a hoot! Nobody could afford to pay that. Trying to play us for fools."
101; "trolls spins things just to get a reaction."
105; "Admin, I want to thank you for providing a safe place so we can get facts."
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106; "Radio Church of God was it connected to WCG/GCI?
102; "Yes, when they were doing the broadcast on Radio that was the name they went by. Then they changed it to Plain Truth Ministries.
Admin; "102 & 106, It was also called the "World Tomorrow".
102; "I forgot about the WT."
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106; "Wasn't there another Armstrong preacher that was killed in a car wreck?"
Admin; "Garner Ted was his name he was Herbert's son."
107; "Did Tkach ordain him too?"
Admin; "Herbert ordained him."
107; "A father ordaining his own son? How strange. Did Tkach or the church board approve it?
Admin; "107, I'll check on that." 


"The COG has a major marketing problem."



Ever since the Worldwide Church of God imploded into hundreds of splinter groups, the Armstrong Churches of God have had major marketing issues in getting their message out to the world.  UCG and LCG slap themselves on the back by boasting about programs on Roku and other streaming devices and quote outrageous figures of "potential" viewers as if they are actual viewers.  Millions of people do NOT tune in to their programs.  Most just skip past or watch a couple minutes to get an idea on what the app is about and then move on when they see it is a religious program.

None of the ACOG have ever been able to figure out how to appeal to the younger generation. Certain mainline churches have found that niche and draw in thousands of millennials, GenX, GenY, GenZ, to worship services, but not one single ACOGever has.  And, why should they?  What do any of the ACOG have to offer that is of value?

When a person lives in a crazy world with potential upheavals just a phone swipe away, why would anyone want to park their butt in a 2-hour service where the minister is constantly talking about death and damnation soon to hit the world, about being zealous in order to become vindictive Pharisees,  or listening to a crooked Chief Overseer rail on in a sermon filled with 30-40 DIFFERENT subjects?  Who needs that?



I’m an elder millennial BB (born in 80s), ex COG, and the last generation who witnessed WCG as kids. 
The COG has a major marketing problem. How do you make appealing doctrines like BI that go against genetics?  
How do you keep talking about the return of Christ and the end times without addressing living in harmony in the modern world?
Homosexuals are continually railed against but many have co-workers, acquaintances, or dare I say friends who are gay. 
Also as a generation who has witnessed graphic design, special effects, and cutting edge technology. Telecasts of all kinds look cheesy, their messages are not exciting and do not hold our attention. 
How are two hour services still a thing? Cut that in half lol
What is new and innovative in Armstrongism? Not much at all.
Also, millennials have their issues but in my experience Baby Boomers are the most entitled group as they are receiving the most entitlements currently. As a generation we’re passionate, adaptable, thoughtful, and harder to sell on things. 
Especially mass market products like Armstrongism and Applebee’s.
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