Sunday, October 21, 2012

Bob Thiel on Judging Others

Dr. Bob Thiel, the "unofficial" Official Spokesman for the Living Church of God, world renown author on prophecy, Catholicism and Mayan gibberish, is all a twitter today about Pope Benedict XVI wanting good conservative Catholics to turn more to Mary.  Bob is upset that they are turning to Mary and not Jesus Christ.

Bob writes:

Today, after declaring 7 others ‘saints,’ the Roman Pontiff Benedict XVI, Bishop of Rome Benedict XVI said following:
…let us turn to her who is the Queen of all the Saints, the Virgin Mary, thinking of Lourdes, stricken by a grave overflowing of the Gave, which has also flooded the grotto of the apparitions of Our Lady. Today we would especially like to entrust missionaries to the maternal intercession of the Virgin Mary – priests and laity, who sow the good seed of the Gospel in every part of the world. We also pray for the Synod of Bishops, which, over the course of these weeks, is confronting the challenge of the new evangelization for the transmission of the Christian faith.

I find it hilarious that Bob is mocking the Catholics for giving Mary more air time than Jesus Christ, while he and the Living Church of God only pay Jesus Christ lip service. Most of the Church of God's are in the same boat.  They can talk about Father God 99% of the time but can't even say the name Jesus without adding Christ to it.  Entire sermons are preached in Armstrongism with the name Jesus never mentioned.  There will be 500 scripture references on law keeping but nothing about Jesus or grace.

Bob writes:

Mary is not one to pray to or to entrust oneself to–including Catholics, Hindus, etc.

Jesus is.  And this is something that the Pontiff knows, but did not seem to mention today.

It's also something that Rod Meredith knows, Flurry, Pack, Malm, and all the rest of them.  You never hear them talking about Jesus Christ except when he will be retuning with guns blazing to destroy the wicked.  Armstrongism gets off on that.  The only time COG members hear Jesus discussed the most is at Passover when they beat him to death year after year with the amplified breaking of matzo's.  Then when the service is over they have basically left Jesus Christ hanging on the  cross stake, in the grave, or still in the high school gym till next year. 

The only time you hear Jesus Christ is even mentioned in Armstrongism is in the last 5 minutes of an hour and half sermon on the law, or in the last couple of paragraphs of an article.

Before Bob throws any more stones at the Catholic Church he had better open his eyes to his own church and how it ignores Jesus Christ too.


Assistant Deacon said...

Your strike-through of Jesus' name is perhaps the simplest yet most profound commentary on the COGs and Armstrongism I've ever seen.

Anonymous said...

That's why I love to go down Dave Pack's sermon listing. Will never find Jesus in a title. You might find Christ and you will always find Dave and 7 ways to, 21 things that, 44 reasons for, 65 ideas of, and 99 important facts you must

Truly...I don't think I have ever quite seen a sermon like this before, well maybe in the 80's but nothing quit like this one that you will hear today....Prepare to be amazed, dazzled, frozen in your seat and generally bored to death...

Christ Christopherson

Douglas Becker said...

Ignoring Jesus?

How about ignoring reality?

Anonymous said...

This post and these comments are so funny because they're so on-the-money.

Being an advertising "idea man," HWA was basically a P.T. Barnum. In order to sell seats, you have to move people. And in order to move people you have to tap into powerful emotional drives such as fear and sex. HWA must have really patted himself on the back when he figured out he could self-righteously use scripture to explain why all the literature was free. He was no dummy, he knew that FREE is one of the most powerful words in advertising. No one ever charges for promotional or recruitment materials. Of course the literature is not free, is just that it makes good sense not to charge up front. If the literature does its job, you'll be paying for it (and the lavish lifestyles of those who produced it) until the end of time.

Once you've hooked them with FREE, since sex is taboo, then all that's left is the FEAR of G.I.Jesus returning with guns blazing, Great White Thrones of JUDGMENT, and lakes of fiery brimstone with your name on them.

Grace just doesn't work the same magic to keep people from straying from your little Ponzi "fold."

And little Davey Pack using such obvious P.T. Barnum hucksterism is just ridiculous. He might as well be pushing little bottles of snake oil, tonics, and potions from a little horse-drawn wagon. Do people still fall for such antiquated songs and dances? He has HWA mimicry down to a fine art.

Allen C. Dexter said...

"Do people still fall for such antiquated songs and dances? He has HWA mimicry down to a fine art."

I'm afraid they do. There are a whole bunch of very successful hucksters out there with mega churches who are laughing and doing a jig all the way to the bank.

Anonymous said...

"He has HWA mimicry down to a fine art."

If only he'd selected Jesus to imitate, maybe he'd be someone respectable. Instead he's just one more embarrassing clone of a fraud.

Anonymous said...

What would Jesus be if He isn't the Christ (Messiah)?

Byker Bob said...

When you stop to think about it, the ACOGs only understand approximately 2/3 of God in the first place. Some who leave even reject another 1/3 by also denying that Jesus is God.

This is why they have their cruel and authoritarian government from the top down, and engulf themselves in all of the legalism. That's all they're left with, desperately trying to "qualify", worrying each day that they might lose their salvation, yet at the same time thinking they are some sort of unique elite group. It's enough to make your head spin, or to induce a steroidal level of paranoia!


Allen C. Dexter said...

"What would Jesus be if He isn't the Christ (Messiah)?"

Just the figment of wild imaginations he always has been.

Anonymous said...

Wow claims that HWA and others are false teachers (con artist) but no scriptural proof to show where they are wrong. The religious leaders in Jesus day never disproved Jesus or the apostles they just made false emotional claims. When you can't disprove someone attack them, call them names but don't logically show where they are wrong.