Saturday, September 7, 2013

Mr. Dennis Muses on: Pulling Big Prophetic Triggers

 A Bit of Intuitive Commentary On The Theological Mistakes of David W. Weinland

"How Long Will You Wait for God’s Prophecies?"

(Bible Code for "You people don't get it.")


This is the first of about three more announcements to be posted about the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy. Ok Dave...Is it 2 or 3?  Perhaps 3 or 4?  One says "about a dozen" but one never says "about 3."  It is either 2, 3, or 4.  Thousands of brethren, literally, in the splinters have read some or all of the previous 25 announcements. (Over 27,000 of the “God’s People Back Together—Soon!” series have been downloaded) We have the numbers! It is clear that some brethren ARE “considering their ways.” Not many. We have many emails attesting to this.   Oh for Pete's sake.  I looked over 437 times myself!  Actually all you really have now is 27,000 more folk who know you were and are mistaken after months of bluster and hubris over just how sure you were about what Christ was doing and your part in it all.  You messed up Dave and all the rewrites, redactions and editing will not impress a critical thinker.  I know you do have non critical thinkers in RCG going for you, but most of the 27,000 aren't in that number.  Most were those opposed to you checking up on what the next stupid thing out of your mouth was going to be. That is wonderful to see.Yes, when you understand what I just said, it is wonderful for us but not so wonderful for you. 
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The next announcements will explain additional expansive elements of the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy that none of us here had seen.Bzzzzzzzzzzz...thanks for playing Dave but no, they will not be expansive elements of anything none of us here had not seen.  It will be more bullshit you make up in the next few weeks to recover from your mistakes and fairy tales.  We see plainly.  Rather than saying you were wrong and mistaken, you are trying to make the weak of mind to think there was just more the great "we" did not understand.  You are playing mind games, with them and with yourself. They will open your eyes to things God has long intended to do with His end-time Church and Work that no one ever understood before, and you will see that His Word is PLAIN! These announcements will bring clarity to questions about “dates,” and how brethren should now view the “when” of the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy’s fulfillment. Sorry...bzzzzzzzzzzzzz again and thanks for playing but that is the wrong answer.  You are not any God's end time anything that He/She or It intended to do anything with.  This is all in your untrained, undisciplined and uninformed mind.  There is nothing "Plain" about anything and if anything you have, once again, succeeded in fogging up the mirror that we already see darkly in.  "Clarity" about dates and "how brethren should now view the 'when'" is , once again, making excuses for your failures and back peddling.  How about you bring some clarity to yourself on this business of "when" and "dates."   Telling the brethren how  they should "now view" anything shows you are making shit up again to cover your ass.  Sorry, I don't know how to say this any more kindly in this matter.

Before covering vital points and scriptures that all should now keep in mind, it is of course obvious there was an error in the prophecy’s timing.Yes there was Dave, and anything you add now to try and remedy this error will simply be more error you will be sucking up by years end.  There may be other details that are wrong. Oh there are and they are not just in the details.  They are in the premise.  I always knew this and said it to the Church more than once. Really?  You didn't sound like you always knew this in print.  In fact, we are still learning additional elements of it.No you're not Dave.  You're struggling to make more shit up to cover your ass.  I already told you that.  Mr. Armstrong puzzled and puzzled and puzzled over certain much less complicated prophecies. So are you saying if HWA puzzled over much less complicated things, then how much more puzzling are you doing over complicated stuff?  Are you saying, if he struggled with simple things how much more do you struggle over the harder things he had no clue about?  Really, it's more like he struggled over the meaning of sheep poop but your struggle is over explaining more complicated cow pies?'s all shi....well you know.  He often said that things he learned came over time—not all right away, or even close in some cases. There are points we learned “late” in what is an enormously complex prophecy. We knew from early on in our pursuit of the truth that this prophecy did not carry with it the kind of time that Mr. Armstrong always had to properly sort through prophecies—ones that, however great in magnitude as we know some are, were simpler to understand. Huh?  Say that again?  Sounds like gibberish to me.  Are you saying of course you didn't get it right because it's more complicated?  You should have warned us last month of this reality.  "Warning...this stuff is complicated and I could be way off here."   That would have been nice...

I will explain a week after the Feast EXACTLY.  I'd be real careful of that word if I was you.  We've already been through that "exactly" thing last month   what was misunderstood about the prophecy’s timing. Oh Dave, you nut.  We can see through this one. Of course you will leave some made up suspense for after the Feast. There are offering you desperately need to be taken up before you really screw it all up.  It appears we will not be waiting a long time—not another year—for its fulfillment. (Earlier announcements have been corrected.) How about you explain it right now?  We don't want to wait until after the feast.  What do you mean "it appears..."?   If it appears now, appear it now for all of us so we can decide just where we actually wish to go for the Feast.  You should also say, "earlier mistakes and bullshit I just made up have been corrected."  Just sayin'.  Next Friday, I will post another one detailing three crucial elements that were previously unexplained, with three more to be explained after the Feast. David, David...we grow weary of this off putting approach to what you clearly already think you know.  It's not 1967 you know.  We don't go for that suspense stuff anymore.  If you know it now, then tell it now.  After all, that was one of your huge proofs of it being this year remember.  Why would God inform you this year if was not this year or want you to wait to prepare.  We don't want to wait weeks more.  If you know it now then God wants you to tell it NOW.  Like this weekend now! Tell us now so we can plan our route to the proper feast site.  You just made up these six "crucial elements previously unexplained" didn't you?  Or did you withhold them?  Nah...I think you are just making more shit up as you go...sorry.  Not to be crude but this is important life shit.
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Make no mistake  But you did..... THE PROPHECY STANDS.Well now wait a minute.  You mean the altered and amended prophecy stands right?  Not the original one.  It failed.  You did set dates and Eluled us with them.  It was how God simply had to do his work on a schedule and that was it.  I have copies of it.   Because it was never my prophecy, but rather God’s, it WILL come to pass. The whether and what of the prophecy have not changed, only the WHEN. It's always the "when" isn't it Dave.  Ron Weinland had the same problem.  Dave, how about you just let this topic go for now and forget about it.  God obviously has not included you in knowing anything. Actually it is YOUR prophecy as you have made Haggai mean what it never meant or ever will mean.  You will learn that in the days and months to come.  You learned it last month but the lesson escaped you and your stuck in their seats members, so it will circle around again for a second time or until you get it.

However, since we're amending prophecies to fit what actually didn't happen as preached...I have learned the true meaning of Zechariah 11.  It came to me in a night vision after a halibut sandwich with onion rings. 

Zechariah 11

New International Version (NIV)

11 Open your doors, Lebanon,
    so that fire may devour your cedars!

Lebanon is near Cincinnati, home of you know what church and "cedars" is the Hebrew word for "announcements , and/or screeds of questionable theological worth."  God is wanting to clear out the files of your past writings in the other churches of God.

Wail, you juniper, for the cedar has fallen;
    the stately trees are ruined!
Wail, oaks of Bashan;
    the dense forest has been cut down!
"Juniper" is the Hebrew word for "lurker" as in "those who have lurked on Banned HWA."  It is simply telling them that your "announcements and screeds of questionable theological worth," have been cut down and burned up.  They are to get on with their lives now.

 Listen to the wail of the shepherds;
    their rich pastures are destroyed!
Listen to the roar of the lions;
    the lush thicket of the Jordan is ruined!
This would be your ministry in RCG.  They are embarrassed and anxious and kicking themselves for putting things on credit you said would be paid for by the huddled masses yearning to be free.  The Lions are their wives not a little upset and saying,  "I told you this was going to happen.  Why did you listen to that so and so..."  "Jordan" is Hebrew for "our plans."

Two Shepherds

This is what the Lord my God says: “Shepherd the flock marked for slaughter. Their buyers slaughter them and go unpunished. Those who sell them say, ‘Praise the Lord, I am rich!’ Their own shepherds do not spare them. For I will no longer have pity on the people of the land,” declares the Lord. “I will give everyone into the hands of their neighbors and their king. They will devastate the land, and I will not rescue anyone from their hands.”

Again, think ministers of the Restored Church of God.  What part don't you agree with?   Can you explain why you disagree?  Do you think it is ok to disagree with Dennis and Gary?  Pull big triggers on this one!  This indicates that not only will no one come to RCG or their ministry  but that members of RCG will go to the other splinters for comfort and relief.  God has lost his patience in this matter.

So I shepherded the flock marked for slaughter, particularly the oppressed of the flock. Then I took two staffs and called one Favor and the other Union, and I shepherded the flock. In one month I got rid of the three shepherds.

Now..think again.  Mr. Dennis  is predicted to be the "Favor to Come." (You can't imagine how uncomfy even saying this in jest is)  Mr. Gary of Banned HWA, and I will prove the significance of this name shortly, is "Unifier." Think now!  Of what?  Of sane people of course!!!   In one month, the month of August, God exposed, i.e. "got rid of"  three shepherds.  The first was you Dave.  The Second was  Dale Schurter and the third was Larry McElroy, who I don't know but is a type I'm pretty sure and qualifies. 

The flock detested me, and I grew weary of them and said, “I will not be your shepherd. Let the dying die, and the perishing perish. Let those who are left eat one another’s flesh.”

Oh yes...Mr.Gary and  Mr. Dennis have gotten some pretty harsh emails and they wanted to give up but God encouraged them by revealing they are spoken of in Zechariah as Favor and Unifier.  That helped a lot and they will see this through.  They care about how this turns out for good folk.

10 Then I took my staff called Favor and broke it, revoking the covenant I had made with all the nations. 11 It was revoked on that day, and so the oppressed of the flock who were watching me knew it was the word of the Lord.

Think!  This is an inset comment going back into the past for emphasis.  Accept this!  God "broke" Mr. Dennis of the COG habit and mindset.  It was messy and painful and Dan Rogers called in one day, actually after Bible study at 10 PM , but it's a type, and his church knew it was over as did he.  Credentials, insurance, third tithe check books, church account, the books they sent him to study but only certain parts...all gone in one day!!!  But it was God's will.  Messy as hell, but God's will nonetheless.

12 I told them, “If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it.” So they paid me thirty pieces of silver.

There was to be some severance pay but only a few months and then told Mr. Dennis to be warmed and be filled and that they would pray for him.  "Keep it" is the Hebrew idiom for "shove it."

13 And the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter”—the handsome price at which they valued me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them to the potter at the house of the Lord.

This is Bible code for "give it to the therapeutic massage school and learn a new trade. Rub people the right way for a change!" saith the Lord

14 Then I broke my second staff called Union, breaking the family bond between Judah and Israel.

Then it was Mr. Gary's turn.  Judah and Israel is Bible talk for HWA and Joe Tkach.  The split turned Mr. Gary loose and the Hebrew word is "Banned" not "Bands" as in some translations.  I think you get my drift.  These are a type of the Two Witnesses that shall devour with fire coming out of their mouths.  Think!  What word don't you understand?

15 Then the Lord said to me, “Take again the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16 For I am going to raise up a shepherd over the land who will not care for the lost, or seek the young, or heal the injured, or feed the healthy, but will eat the meat of the choice sheep, tearing off their hooves.

This is YOU Dave.  Again...think!   Bigger triggers! Pull them!  "equipment" is the Hebrew word for "stuff, campus, buildings, things, Steuben, lawn mowers and wood trim."   Verse 16 is an expansion of 15.  It is you Dave.  "Tearing off their hooves" is Hebrew for "cutting the rug out from under them."  It implies a certain covetousness over the choice sheep of other leaders and what you would be willing to do to get them into your fold.

“Woe to the worthless shepherd,
    who deserts the flock!
Which was done when you lead them one way with one set of supposed prophecy and then modify it after the failure thereof and want to take them in yet another direction..  Instead of taking responsibility, this bad shepherd will blame the sheep.  Baaaaaaaaaaad move.  

May the sword strike his arm and his right eye!
    May his arm be completely withered,
    his right eye totally blinded!”

Ouch!  Not to mention the fleas of a thousand camels.....



Byker Bob said...

I still can't wrap my mind around one thing. If you make up something prophetic, going into complex layer of detail as Dave did, inevitably everyone will realize that it was all a self-correcting lie. To move forward with the lie, knowing and in spite of this, makes a very eloquent statement about the "prophet's" mental health.

There are no words to describe the idiocy, the self destructiveness.


Corky said...

B Bob, the reason is that Dave has nothing to lose and money to gain. Pretty simple, really.

Byker Bob said...

Yeah, Corky, I get that. As a businessman myself, I really do. But what he has done would be analogous to me expanding, announcing wonderful new product, basing much of my business plan for growth on that, and then having the manufacturer pull the product at the last minute.

Remaining static, or operating at a loss is actually losing money. He would really have been better off never having shot his mouth off. And, it's not only about the money, it's about long term credibility and integrity. You can lose a bundle of money, and if you still have those, you can rebuild.

Plus, we have the demoralization factor. We've heard accounts to the effect that his relatively small membership is tapped out and beleagered. They were probably looking forward to reinforcements coming in, providing relief. RCG is going to be lucky now if they don't turn into the ACOG version of Detroit!