Saturday, April 16, 2016

The Four Great Beasts of Revelation Are People You May Know In The Church of God!

From crazy lunatic COG preachers claiming their members will be riding around on the back of angels; to all of the  Elijah's, Elisha's and Amos's; to frauds claiming to have converted hoards of Muslims to the truth; to Witless Witness Ron Weinland and now a person who has the ability to know exactly WHO the four breasts of Revelation are.  Only in the Church of God can you find such willing lunatics ready to spout complete idiocy.

Today's agent of God's secret information is Phinehas Eleazar who knows exactly who the four humans are that are the beasts of Revelation.  For many here these will be men you may know or have heard of.

Eleazar used to be part of Gerald Flurry's personality cult, but left it because he was more theologically educated than Flurry.

Eleazar writes this:

And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. (Daniel 7:3)
Daniel witnessed four great beasts ascending from this agitated sea pictured by God’s church in this end-time.
What are these four great beasts?
Verse 17 of the same chapter provides us the answer.
These great beasts, which are fourare four kingswhich shall arise out of the earth. (Daniel 7:17)
Therefore, these four great beasts represent four great kings which shall come out of the earth.
In page 5 of the booklet, “Who or What is the Prophetic Beast?” Mr. Herbert Armstrong explained the word king in this manner:
“And the word king is synonymous with kingdom, and used only in the sense that the king represents the kingdom over which he rules, for in verse 23 we read, “The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon the earth ….” Notice also the word kingdom is used to explain the beasts in verses 18, 22, 24 and 27.”
These four kings have their own dominion or rule. As kings possess kingdoms over which they rule, these kings in God’s church represent the MINISTERS who were given rulership over the various regions or nations in the world.
Now, notice the place where these four kings will arise from.
These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. (Daniel 7:17)
In verse 2, the four great beasts were seen by Daniel ascending from the great sea – an emblem for God’s church.
Here, earth is also representative of God’s church. They will rise up from the PCG. Their dominion will exist within this church.

IDENTITY OF THE FIRST BEAST  Now, with these two remarkable attributes mentioned about this first beast, who among the ministers in the Philadelphia Church of God had exhibited these qualities during his reign as a king over a very wide region in God’s church? 
This first beast in Daniel’s dream represents none other than John Macdonald, the former Regional Director of Africa, Asia, and Oceania and his reign in those regions in the past, prior to his demotion to Associate Pastor. 

He was the “king of the beasts” when it comes to devouring God’s people.

IDENTITY OF THE SECOND BEAST This second beast in Daniel’s dream represents Evangelist Alex Harrison, who replaced John Macdonald in 2015 as Regional Director of Africa, Asia, and Oceania.

The Third Beast is an amalgamation of four PCG leaders in the U.S. and Canada

This third beast may well represents four regional heads in the region of the United States, including Canada. As leopards are solitary animals that have large territories so are these ministers rule over a wide regions. 
The oppression and killings of God’s people was a worldwide experience. It was not an isolated case. It did not just happen in one country or region. It did not only occurred in Asia, Africa, and Oceania. 
The Great Tribulation happened to God’s people in all nations around the world. So, obviously, the wide territories of Manasseh was not spared. 
This third beast with four heads are ministers who are also hooked on preying upon God’s people. These kings or ministers who are leopards with spots are accustomed to do evil. 
“Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. (Jeremiah 13:23) 
Many atrocities committed by PCG ministers from this region were recorded and detailed in
The hunting techniques of these four kings is typically feline-like similar to the first beast. They are known to lurk in the dark and spring suddenly upon innocent and poor people.

Then the best part of all is the name of the Fourth Beast.

Now, who among the ministers in The Philadelphia Church of God will match these initial descriptions about this stouter horn? 
Who is this minister who has fellows surrounding him, whose appearance became greater than them and became the captain of their confederacy? 
Who is this minister who exalts and magnifies himself and now has the control of the whole PCG and makes major or important decisions for the church? 
This stouter horn is none other than Stephen Flurry! 

Do you still remember what Stephen Flurry did in 2014 Feast of Tabernacles? He drew the attention of God’s people all over the world to himself by giving the 2014 Feast of Tabernacles Opening Night Message. He took the spotlight, from the Apostle of God, his very own dad, and delivered a message which is not supposed to be given just by anybody.
What authority did he had to take away that very important responsibility from his dad?
Why is it that Armstrongism has breed such complete lunacy in so many people?  For a church that claimed to be restored Christianity and to have inspired leaders that were the only ones God was working with after 1,900 years, it sure has been one screwed up mess of some of the craziest idiots we have ever seen!  God certainly must have had a lapse in judgment. Imagine waiting for 1,900 years to hand your divine truth off to these idiots!  The worst and saddest part is that no matter how idiotic these people are, how abusive they are, or how morally bankrupt they are, people will still follow them.

You can read about this marvelous salvation worthy information on Phinehas Eleazar's web site:  The Last End: A Book of Remembrance  This site has some of the most crazy stuff you will ever read concerning the Church of God and the Philadelphia Church of God.


DennisCDiehl said...

These people are all insane.

The Book is pseudonymous and not written by any Daniel in the 6th Century BCE. It was written to encourage the Jews to hang in there during the the time of the Maccabees and the rebellion against Rome in the 160's AD. The reason Daniel seems so accurate in it's "prophecy" is due to the fact that it was written AFTER THE FACT and all the Kingdoms it "predicted" had already come and gone in world history. Only Rome was still around . Chapter 11 is so accurate and precise because the events had already occurred were known. Chapter 12 gets very vague because the author , of course, did not yet know the outcome of the current struggle against the Romans. The Romans won.

The author Revelation, also not actually written by any John of Gospel fame relied heavily on on Daniel to flesh out his book meant to encourage the Jews and Jewish Christians yet again in the first century when the desire to cast Rome out of Jerusalem reached fever pitch. Revelation, written probably or perhaps in the summer of '69 AD ended up being a failed prophecy that said the Romans would be gone in 3 1/2 years etc however they took less time than that to destroy Jerusalem, send everyone packing and win the day.

Humans can't know the future and prophets are all suspect in thinking they are special and can. The OT and NT is full of failed "prophecy" to the point that in Peter, also not written by the illiterate fisherman Peter in perfect Greek, we find the classic disclaimer that God does not see time as we do. A day to God is not the same as a day to us and while "scoffers" are blamed and scorned by the Church, they prove correct over time in asking the question, "Just where is the promise of his coming?"

Let's not forget that every "soon" , "shortly" and day that was nigh and time that now is, was wrong. Paul was dead wrong in his view of Christ return and the misery he inflicted on the church, the single and the married was all unnecessary and ill advised. So it is today still.

All these men, Flurry, Pack, Meredith, the Major players and the minor will ALL die without seeing their imaginations of how it all is and what they think the Bible really means , come to pass.

Ralph said...

on April 16, 2016 at 7:44 PM
DennisCDiehl wrote:-

"The Book is pseudonymous and not written by any Daniel in the 6th Century BCE. It was written to encourage the Jews to hang in there during the the time of the Maccabees and the rebellion against Rome in the 160's AD. The reason Daniel seems so accurate in it's "prophecy" is due to the fact that it was written AFTER THE FACT and all the Kingdoms it "predicted" had already come and gone in world history."

Hi DD. Would you direct me toward any evidence supporting your claim? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

The Last End Book of Remembrance is definitely worth a read. I read it on line a few years back and it really exposes a lot of the abuse that is happening right now in the PCG. At the PCG headquarters, there was an announcement made that everyone needs to BURN their copy of this book! Mr. Brian Davis was literally screaming this from the pulpit! Well, of course that made all the members go on line to read it. Whether Phineas is right or not spiritually, the events that occurred are all accurate!

DennisCDiehl said...

Hi Ralph
You can start with Wikipedia but it is the standard belief , based on the historical evidence and writing style of Jewish apocalyptic writings of the day. It is in the realm of critical scholarship and not simple fundamentalist Bible reading with no understanding of the who, what , where, when and why of scripture .

Daniel is one of a large number of Jewish apocalypses, all of them pseudonymous.[33] Although the entire book is traditionally ascribed to Daniel the seer, chapters 1–6 are in the voice of an anonymous narrator, except for chapter 4 which is in the form of a letter from king Nebuchadnezzar; only the second half (chapters 7–12) is presented by Daniel himself, introduced by the anonymous narrator in chapters 7 and 10.[34] The real author/editor of Daniel was probably an educated Jew, knowledgeable in Greek learning, and of high standing in his own community. The book is a product of "Wisdom" circles, but the type of wisdom is mantic (the discovery of heavenly secrets from earthly signs) rather than the wisdom of learning – the main source of wisdom in Daniel is God's revelation.[35][36]
It is possible that the name of Daniel was chosen for the hero of the book because of his reputation as a wise seer in Hebrew tradition.[37] Ezekiel, who lived during the Babylonian exile, mentioned him in association with Noah and Job (Ezekiel 14:14) as a figure of legendary wisdom (28:3), and a hero named Daniel (more accurately Dan'el, but the spelling is close enough for the two to be regarded as identical) features in a late 2nd millennium myth from Ugarit.[38] "The legendary Daniel, known from long ago but still remembered as an exemplary character ... serves as the principal human "hero" in the biblical book that now bears his name"; Daniel is the wise and righteous intermediary who is able to interpret dreams and thus convey the will of God to humans, the recipient of visions from on high that are interpreted to him by heavenly intermediaries.[39]
Daniel's exclusion from the Hebrew Bible's canon of the prophets, which was closed around 200 BC, suggests it was not known at that time, and the Wisdom of Sirach, from around 180 BC, draws on almost every book of the Old Testament except Daniel, leading scholars to suppose that its author was unaware of it. Daniel is, however, quoted by the author of a section of the Sibylline Oracles commonly dated to the middle of the 2nd century BC, and was popular at Qumran beginning at much the same time, suggesting that it was known and revered from the middle of that century.[40]
The prophecies contained in the book are accurate down to the career of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, king of Syria and oppressor of the Jews, but not in its prediction of his death: the author seems to know about Antiochus' two campaigns in Egypt (169 and 167 BC), the desecration of the Temple (the "abomination of desolation"), and the fortification of the Akra (a fortress built inside Jerusalem), but he seems to know nothing about the reconstruction of the Temple or about the actual circumstances of Antiochus' death in late 164. Chapters 10–12 must therefore have been written between 167 and 164 BC. There is no evidence of a significant time lapse between those chapters and chapters 8 and 9, and chapter 7 may have been written just a few months earlier again.[41]

DennisCDiehl said...


"The impression that predictions made in the distant past were fulfilled accurately is due to the fact that the apocalypses were written after these events had already taken place, but their predictions are presented as though they were made prior to their predicted events."

Connie Schmidt said...

For those interested in an opposing point of view...

Anonymous said...

Girls, you're both pretty, now will you stop your piss match and get back to the topic!! This is about a group of people that are exposing the PCG for what it is!
The PCG needs to get their heads out of the sand and read this book!
Oh, on a side note, now that Grant Turgeon is engaged to Anya, will time be delayed? Imagine how big this wedding is going to be!!! Wow! In Leau of gifts, just give an offering to the church. Oh, it's also nice to drive by the new $1.8 million dollar music hall being built across the street from the Field house. These Spring Holy Days are going to be awesome! Andrew Locher and the other boneheads are going to tell us to dig deeper to finish this Work! And how the income has gone down and they're suffering!
Good grief! We reduce our standard of living so that Paris Turgeon and the Locher girls can travel the world Irish dancing at our expense!

Anonymous said...

It's odd that he writes of "the great sea – an emblem for God’s church" because to the Hebrew mind, the sea represented chaos, something violent, destructive, devastating and terrifying.

Oh wait, I understand.

The Painful Truth said...

I don't think this guy would receive HWA's stamp of approval. After all, he's saying Herbie was wrong!