The apostate apostle is giving directions to his acolytes on how to stay in a hotel/motel, on a sabbath/holy day, during the Feast. No more beds made or bathrooms cleaned on Malm's so called sabbath. Nada!
An acolyte asks:
In relation to the correct calendar days and correct way of keeping the Sabbath holy, how and where do you and your family keep the Feast of Tabernacles? Are there any congregations in the COG’s that keep the correct days and believe in not buying and selling on the Sabbath? (as per Neh. 10, 13) If staying at hotels for the Feast (which has been our tradition for many years) is hiring a room and paying the hotel management for it (which would include the Sabbath/Holy days) is breaking the Sabbath then what is the proper way of residing in booths? Do you suggest camping, bringing tents or campers to a Feast site? What about meeting halls? Is renting hotel meeting rooms for weekly Sabbath services considered buying and selling on the Sabbath?
The emerging splinter group leader writes:
We would stay in a motel usually and sometimes camp. Staying in a motel is not a problem as we pay and get settled BEFORE any Sabbath or High Day, and we simply inform them that no service will be needed on Sabbaths or High Days; which usually delights them.
We do prefer a room with a Frdge and stove but if that is not possible a small cooler to keep a few perishables overnight on a Sabbath is helpful. If you are a fly in, a styrofoam cooler can be bought for a couple of dollars at the local market.
Right now this is a work in progress and while there are hundreds perhaps a thousand or more people faithful to the Sabbath etc, they are widely scattered worldwide and I have cautioned everyone to stay where they are until the fruits of their orgnization is very clear to them. That time is almost at hand. James
Obviously the future Pastor General feels he has quit a following, enough so that they will eventually need to break away from the apostate Churches of God and start their own Feast site. One can only imagine what a downer this site would be like. Sour, legalistic, know-it-all's clicking their tongues at every perceived infraction. Imagine being a youth or teenager at this so called "festival" site! How depressing!
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Now if I can just get you recalcitrants to send in your tithe to me, my life would be a lot better.
Apostle Malm
For these letter of the law pharisee types, I don't understand how they can rent a hotel room, car, or meeting hall on the sabbath day. A transaction includes two parties, a buyer and a seller. Just because we negotiate and perform the buy part of the exchange with currency on Friday afternoon and "get settled," the other half of the exchange, the sale, is being transacted during the entire length of the rental period. If one holds a strict belief that there can be neither buying nor selling on the sabbath, then being in possession of any rental item on the sabbath is polluting the holiness of the sabbath, and shamelessly breaking the fourth commandment of god! Oh my!
No, they're fine with buying and selling, just so long as no currency changes hands. But otherwise you can barter to your heart's content, or take delivery of anything you want, including hotel rooms and meeting halls. I'll bet you can eat at a buffet-style restaurant too, just so long as you enter and pay before sundown.
Everything depends on where you feel comfortable drawing the arbitrary lines that determine when you believe god's wrath ought to be incurred, and therefore, is incurred.
I feel like drawing the arbitrary line somewhere else. +1 me, -1 god. Hooray for me! I win!
If one wants to follow the Bible's instructions for observing the Feast of Booths, then staying at a hotel or motel would not be an option..
Build your own!
Norm
If one wants to follow the Bible's instructions for marriage, then remember it's not just between one man and one woman in love.
It's also between a woman and her rapist!
It's also between one man and many women!
Norm
Agreed on the build your own. The bible says to live in a booth you build, there is nothing about traveling to a hotel. Take a look at how the jews do it. Building a Succa is fun. You can party in it and you don't have to have a maid come in and change the sheets. You can campp in it if you want and there is no money exchanged.
Oh the pick-and-choose coggers! It never ceases to amaze me how they can justify their every move, getting around their law with their man made arbitrary decisions, and continue to point the finger at others. It's ok to pay 30-100 dollars a DAY for a motel room. That includes their sabbath day. No one's going to let them stay there for free on that day. It's taboo to light a fire to cook some food, or to stay warm, but it's ok to turn on the heat, or take a shower, in the motel room, or drive their car to services. It's ok to turn on the TV to "watch the news", or turn on the lights to see in the dark, but there's someone somewhere working that day to make sure that the news is reported, or the lights will work. On and on it goes!
Notice to single ladies, looking for Feast lodging:
Do not consider staying in a motel where there is a single guy living with his mother on the hill.
Especially be wary of staying at the "Bates Motel".
This has been a public service of the Alfred Hitchcock society.
Jesus encourages all single ladies to attend the Feast of Booths at the Jates Malmtel this year.
Someone was screaming that it's gonna be the NUMBER ONE feast site this year!
Norm
Hotel Armstrong is so much like Hotel California. We are all just prisoners of our own device.
Shoot, that looks like my old '59 Ford setting out in front of the Bates. Brings back memories. I cruised the parade route along Colorado Blvd on New Years' eve in that thing probably about 1969.
BB
Excuse me, but didn't Paul rent a place to live in for 2 years while in Rome (Acts 28:30)? So I don't believe hiring a room--even if it extends beyond a holy day--is wrong at all.
What is wrong, however, is following man-made traditions while thinking you're pleasing and obeying God when in actual fact you're not! Look at the FOT as an example. When HWA got started he mandated not only for the FOT to be observed at sponsored sites, but even the FOUB too until he became aware of the complaints and difficulties people were having in keeping both "holidays" and so he changed his mind.
Yet, in the OT the Israelites were to keep the 3 annual feasts in Jerusalem and there bring their tithes (Dt 12:5, 11; 1 Ki 8:44) not NYC or London or Sydney. Besides, God ordered his people to build and live in booths or tents not hire fancy hotel rooms (see That Other Feast by Dan White). Under the NT, however, the location was no longer important to God. It's our attitude that He cares about since we are the temple of God (Jn 4:21-24; 1 Cor 3:16). Even Paul's own example indicates he observed the annual feasts wherever he was. He didn't run to keep "the Feast" in Jerusalem or some other "sponsored site" every time there was one (Acts 20:6; 27:9; Gal 1:18; 2:1; 1 Cor 16:8). It's disappointing to see, but many, even in the COG, prefer the security of slavery to the uncertainty that comes with true freedom.
What god says is true.Believers must believe all his words and not be partial.When he commands us to do something that is the thing to do.Disobeying is sin and error.Obeying is right and truth.God teaches to appear 3 times a year before him where he chooses to place his name Yes?.Yes he does.Its right and true.Be strong and believe him!
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