Wednesday, July 19, 2017

Only Real COG Prophet Claims The Only True End Time COG Is Rolling Forward, But Still Remains Bitter

"The final phase of the work is moving forward. 
More information is being put together, more people are being reached, 
and people are being reached in more languages."

God's only true end-time man is back tooting his blasphemous horn once again on how fabulous and earth shattering his "ministry" is.  No, I am not talking about superfantabulous Dave Pack.  The one I am talking about is the other self-appointed end time guru who claims the same thing.  This time, it is the other end time man, the one who is consistently bitter.  It is the one who has taken on the mantle of numerous Hebrew prophets, believes his nightmares are from his god and who while never ordained, claims he is doubly-blessed.
Will you support the final phase of the work? 
Satan and the Laodiceans simply do not wish to properly support God’s work. Of course, many Laodiceans do not know that they are in that condition, and for many reasons will not understand the final phase of the work or who is leading it.
We should all know by now that any time a COG leader feels he is being under-appreciated he blames everyone else, except himself.  Never will any of them accept the responsibility that their over inflated egos have defeated them.  It is not the members fault and never has been.

So what does one do when there are so many COG's out here that proclaim that they and they alone are the ones with the truth and doing an earth shattering work?  They just steam roll ahead and claim that they and they alone are the one true church, the usual round robin. The others are weak or have failed somehow in getting HWA's words out to the entire world.  All of them place more importance upon Internet count numbers instead of actual human lives that they have touched.  Having a person click on a web site or an article is irrelevant compared to the face to face interactions people are craving.
It is the highly dedicated in the real Church of God (COG) that will finish the human part of the final phase of the work before (Matthew 24:14-15) and during (Revelation 11:3-14) the Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord. Presuming no significant organizational changes, for many reasons, the final phase of the work will be led by the Continuing Church of God...
So just what is this miraculous work doing that is so astounding that God through him?
This final phase of the work seemingly will consist of identifying what is happening in the world (specifically also in Europe, the Middle East, and the Anglo-descended nations), preaching what Jesus commissioned in Matthew 28:19-20 around the world, finishing the proclamation of Christ’s gospel of the kingdom as a witness along with persecution (Matthew 24:9-14), the rise and work of the two witnesses (Revelation 11:2-12; which will likely overlap a few days with Matthew 24:14), the likely assistance to the two witnesses by the scattered flock (Revelation 20:4; cf. Luke 9:2-6), the three angel’s messages (Revelation 14:8-11; plus other angelic interventions), and the witness of those persecuted and martyred for Jesus (cf. Revelation 17:6). And then Jesus will return and establish the Kingdom of God. 
So just who is Bob Thiel drawing into his church around the world?  Other than in Africa, very few.  Even those in Africa are either former COGers or have had a connection to some other Sabbatarian group.  He has not touched the lives of other Christians, Muslims, or non-Christians.  The impact has been minuscule.  And just why is that?  

It is the damn Catholics joining up with Protestants in an ecumenical movement that is deliberately forming to persecute Bob Theil and his church.  Just why would some beast power in Europe, the Catholic church, or some other group worry about isolated groups of Thielites in scattered regions of Africa?   Only in Thiel's mind do they do this.

Why is he claiming he is the only one to do this?  Because he claims to know all about Fatima and everything about the Catholic church that no one else on earth does.
It should be clear to those who truly understand the warnings in the Bible that the final phase of the work for God’s people will also specifically involve dealing with the ecumenical religion that will rise up (cf. Daniel 11:36-38; Revelation 13:4,8; 14:8-13; Matthew 24:14-15) with signs and lying wonders (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12) fulfilling Satan’s plan, while enduring the Beast power who will take steps to eliminate the faithful (Revelation 13:7,13-17; 14:12-13; Daniel 7:21,25).
Having looked over a variety of Roman and Byzantine Catholic private prophecies, I would suggest that Satan’s planning has not always been completely in secret and that such private prophecies will be cited as “justification” for some of the coming persecutions...
Because Thiel will be fighting the above groups and Satan, he is expecting to be killed.  Yes, that broken record still is turning. 
Being killed as the result of persecution is seemingly also part of the final phase of the work that some of God’s people will endure:
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. 13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.'” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.” (Revelation 14:12-13; cf. 6:11)
 Next, Thiel has to once again, complain how Rod Meredith devalued his opinion and refused to implement all suggestions he offered.

That bitterness is what Thiel uses to justify his start-up COG.

About a decade ago, the late evangelist R.C. Meredith and I were talking and he agreed with various points I was raising about the end time work. And back then, I was able to help lead him to essentially state that in the end it would not mainly be the message of the COG vs. the Protestants, but it would be the COG basically vs. the ecumenical religion that will rise up in the end that will likely (for a while) refer to itself as “Catholic.” In 2005, during the Feast of Tabernacles in Clearwater Beach, after a private lunch, we and our wives met at his hotel room and I also discussed various aspects of the final phase of the work with him–and I had other meetings, discussions, and emails related to that with the other Charlotte evangelists through December 14, 2012. Yet, even though he and others in his church agreed to take many steps related to the final phase of the work, few, if any, of the promised steps were taken by his group–this is a major part of why the Continuing Church of God needed to form. 
Interestingly, in December 2015, Dr. Meredith lamented the slow growth in his church. He said that 30% should be attained, but he hoped for at last 15% growth per year–something his church does not attain. Consider that the Continuing Church of God has been the fastest growing COG since its formation in late 2012. On a compounded basis, it has exceeded the 30% growth in both membership and income since it formed in late 2012. Even exceeding the percentage the late Herbert W. Armstrong often pointed to as a proof of a blessing from God. While our growth rate will fluctuate, the Continuing Church of God is the only one of the ten largest COGs whose leaders had origins in the old Worldwide Church of God to do so. Currently, we have around 2,800 people with us.

Thiel claims that he and he alone will have the only forceful voice in the world that will hold the world accountable for their sins.  No other Church of God does that because they are too scared, especially those in the Living Church of God.

During the final phase of the work, the faithful in God’s Church will take a stand against the views of those who will support the compromised persecuting religious power (cf. Revelation 17:1-6). And though aspects of this have occurred throughout history, in the end it will be a major testing of their patience (cf. Daniel 11:28-35; Revelation 14:8-12). 
A bolder, yet truthful, willingness to “name names” and call out what is happening will need to happen than the official COG groups formed between 1986 and 2011 have done–and this would seem to have to be led by the Continuing Church of God. (I have emails from one or more LCG evangelists where they objected to doing parts of this themselves, as well as notes from a meeting where they told me, and one was Dr. Meredith, that they were afraid that I could become too bold and that they did not want to take bold proclamation steps that could trigger the persecution that they teach is biblically prophesied.)

The more Thiel brags about these meetings the more suspicious people are that words like this were ever exchanged.  A growing number of LCG members claim Thiel is a liar and is very deceptive in what he is claiming actually happened.  Since everyone knows Gaylyn Bonjour and ZERO INTENTION of raising Thiel up to a splinter group leader, people also suspect that Thiel is spinning his own version of these events in ways that never happened. 

Thiel also thinks that his outstanding work is going to draw in tens of thousands of new members, which is ludicrous.  We have seen how that has been an epic failure for Dave Pack, who is far more dynamic than Thiel can ever hope to be.

The gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed more powerfully to the world as a witness and the end will come (Matthew 24:14). We in the CCOG are reaching people in over 220 countries and territories and expect to continue to lead the humanly-involved portion of that, and certain other aspects, of the final phase of the work. 
It is possible that this short work will temporarily swell the ranks of the Church of God (including some Philadelphians, but perhaps with many Laodiceans and many others not truly faithful—many may well fall away—though some of the first will be last and the last first, cf. Mark 10:31). Some will be faithful and bear fruit, while many others may leave (cf. Matthew 13:18 -23; 2 Thessalonians 2:3) once the persecuting tribulation that seems prophesied to occur prior to the Great Tribulation hits (cf. Matthew 24:9-10;21). Then the end will come.

Thiel believes that once he starts preaching a dynamic and forceful message he is going to enrage Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg so much so that he will employ the European Super Collider to attack Theil and the United States.  As if Guttenberg cares about an impotent little pissant located in the central California Coast. Also, why would Gutenberg care about 2,700 Africans scattered all over the continent and 100 or so gullible Americans who have decided to follow him?

Partially because the message of the COG, the people of the holy covenant will enrage the upcoming prince/king of the North (Daniel 11:28-30). One or more associated with the Continuing Church of Godwill
Media coverage would then be expected to cover more of the COG message and this may be associated with the “short work” of Romans 9:28. Since the true COG is so small, it is highly likely that it getting significant media coverage will help fulfill Matthew 24:14. Some of the Philadelphia remnant will be explaining that it is Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God and not the rise of a militaristic leader that the world needs. According to Daniel 11:32 it is “the people who know their God [that] shall be strong, and carry out great exploits.” Hundreds of millions, if not billions, will receive at least a partial witness.
All of that will likely trigger the King of the North to take actions that lead to the end–this includes the persecutions, pre- (Daniel 7:25a, 11:29-36) and post-tribulation (Daniel 7:25b).

The Church of God has several dynamic church leaders here in the Untied States, however, all of them are crazier than hell. Their egos and narcissism have made them into buffoonish clowns of the church.  Bob Thiel has now added himself to this cartoonish list.  Because Thiel set himself up into his leadership roll, he is doomed to failure.  God certainly is NOT on his side, never has been and will never be.

There is much more to the latest Thiel spiel located here:  The final phase of the work continues to move ahead


Hoss said...

Satan and the Laodiceans simply do not wish to properly support God’s work.

By "God's work" I assume Bob means his work. Would he be please if Satan supported the CCOG? Or for that matter, the Laodiceans? Or do they already support it, but not properly?

Satan and the Laodiceans - sounds like a rock group from the 1950s...

I Know Hebert Armstrong Was A FALSE Prophet said...

The ACOG Is Full Of Horse Crap! Going To A Place Of Safety, Observing The Jewish Feast Days, Three Tithes, Holy Day Offerings, Church Eras, And HWA Being End-Time Elijah Is ALL LIES!!!!

Gordon Feil said...

Does "the final phase" mean he'll soon stop talking?

Connie Schmidt said...

Hasn't the following of BANNED grown at a 30% growth rate per year if measured from its humble beginnings?

DennisCDiehl said...

Bitter 'n Bold Bob notes:

"...and one was Dr. Meredith, that they were afraid that I could become too bold and that they did not want to take bold proclamation steps that could trigger the persecution that they teach is biblically prophesied.)"

Oh of my greatest fears as well.

Hoss said...

Dennis wrote ...trigger the persecution...

Before Bitter 'n Bold Bob, there was Dauntless Daring Dave, who, in one of his soporific sermons made some preposterous points about persecution. Among these, he claimed that if you aren't [now] being persecuted, you aren't true Christian. His "solution" was to somehow provoke (unwarranted) persecution. To parody a line from a song written by a church member decades ago, If nobody hates you, then give them a hand.

Dennis Diehl said...

I suspect they feared he'd say more foolish than bold things

Byker Bob said...

Bob Thiel is an example of what HWA knew would happen if church members were allowed to indulge in personal evangelism.
"God's" work indeed! The ACOG shibboleth of slurs somehow always seems to be "Laodicean". Even that is based on a false doctrine!

The first time I heard of the COGwriter site, I could scarcely believe that Rod Meredith would allow such a thing. I knew instinctively that it wouldn't end well. There had been too many weird non-mainstream little people in Armstrongism who became obsessed with stupid ideas and went off the deep end. If you've been around for a while, you could almost forecast which members would succumb to this. Even people who have absolutely nothing to be vain about somehow get caught up in it.


Helen Wheels said...

I for one will be properly supporting the final phase of the work.

Indeed, all the prayers, well wishing, and sympathies that I can possibly spare and afford will be with Bob Thiel in Grover Beach.

Right up until the King of the North with his million-man army descends on a small coastal California town...


Hoss said...

Byker Bob wrote Bob Thiel is an example of what HWA knew would happen if church members were allowed to indulge in personal evangelism.

Very good point. According to Bob Thiel's history of his work, Rod encouraged him because he [RCM] needed the support and exposure. And I recall Rod chastising Bob on a few points.
Dave Pack, with the unanimous agreement of his Council of the Yesmen considered there was no reason for any RCG member to have a personal website like COGwriter.

True Bread said...

Theil has always liked to use words like "seems" and "seemingly"....maybe he should call his group the "Seemingly church of god"....

Anonymous said...

Bob Thiels boasts: "...It is the highly dedicated in the real Church of God (COG) that will finish the human part of the final phase of the work before (Matthew 24:14-15Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)) and during (Revelation 11:3-14Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)) the Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord. Presuming no significant organizational changes, for many reasons, the final phase of the work will be led by the Continuing Church of God..."

Bob Thiel has to be speaking about the "final phase of" his own work, the work of his own hands b/c God has absolutely nothing to do with Bob, another false prophet. How do we know?

God does not need any help from Bob Thiel, nor has God ever looked to Bob for anything! How do we know?

"Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it." Eccl 8:17

Bob goes on to boast: "...It is the highly dedicated in the real Church of God (COG) that will finish the human part of the final phase of the work before (Matthew 24:14-15) and during (Revelation 11:3-14) the Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord..."

Well, Bob, you CONTINUE to believe in a Mickey Mouse Millennium, so the following will be meaningless to you, but I'll still say it:

There will be over a 1,000 years between your "the Great Tribulation" and that "Day of the Lord." So, do you and your group, as that "human part," really think you will live over 1,000 years?

Time will tell...


Byker Bob said...

It just amazes me that some of these gleeful prophets of doom don't affect the attire and mannerisms of the Goth. You'd also expect to see some self-flagellators, and cutters amongst them. I guess they don't do these things because they have become distorted soas to see their dark message as a message of hope.


Anonymous said...

the face to face interactions people are craving

Nobody I knew in LCG craved face-to-face interactions with Bitter Bob.

Then again, nobody craved face-to-face interactions with most of the LCG HQ ministers. People in LCG preferred to be left alone with their idealized images of HWA and RCM. Carl McNair and John Ogwyn were each genuinely beloved by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of LCG members. Once those two men were dead, LCG became completely cast in the psychotic image of Rod Meredith, and the members who didn't leave and didn't want to kiss up to advance in the organization either left or learned to keep quiet.