Thursday, November 16, 2017

Self Appointed COG False Prophet Claims American Express May Be Working For Beast Power As It/He Prepares To Destroy The United States

Armstrongism has always created crazy men and women who claim they have some kind of an inside track to end time events.  Hundreds and hundreds of them have worked their way through the church for close to 9 decades. So far every single one of them has been proven to be liars, including the present day fools masquerading as prophets and apostles.

Those failures never seem to stop them though as more and more absurd things continue to spew from their narcissistic and deluded mouths.

Today was no different when Almost-ordained, Elisha, Elijah, Joshua, Amos/Andy, and bitterly rejected stepchild to Rod Meredith made more absurd statements about his bromance partner Baron Karl Theodore-Zu Guttenberg and American Express.

Bitter Bob starts off with this about American Express:

Amex launches blockchain-based business payments using Ripple

16 November 2017
LONDON (Reuters) – American Express (AXP.N) has introduced instant blockchain-based payments using Ripple, a fintech start-up, for U.S. corporate customers sending funds to UK-based businesses that bank with Santander UK STN.SN, the companies said on Thursday. …
This marks one of the first major uses of blockchain, a shared database of transactions maintained by a network of computers on the internet that is best known as the system underpinning bitcoin.
Then the craziness starts:

Blockchain technology is something that I have warned may be used by the Beast power. American Express’ interest in this technology shows that blockchain is getting more acceptance.
Three years ago, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg was appointed to the advisory board of Ripple. He also made comments this past Spring about blockchain technology:
The former head of Germany’s armed forces is now helping to bring blockchain tech to some of the world’s largest financial institutions.
An early advisor to distributed financial technology firm Ripple, not to mention a bonafide German baron, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg today plays a key role in enabling the heavily funded startup to make inroads in the banking sector. But as co-founder of consultancy Spitzberg Partners, he is setting his sights beyond finance.  
Over the course of his time at both the Ministry of Defense and Minister of Economics & Technology, zu Guttenberg built up an extensive network of global politicians, technologists and bankers. 
Bitter Bwanna Bob continues:

“Big Brother” will work for more and more financial controls. Interestingly, Herr Guttenberg has been on the forefront of this. If  American Express, the USA, or State of Delaware do something later against his preferences related to digital currencies, this could turn him further against the USA.
Whether or not the USA lasts long enough to do this, the Europeans will one day control nearly all buying and selling under their control.
The Bible is clear that the time is coming when the Beast power will have implemented some type of strong financial control–blockchain technology may very well be part of it. (Watch also Sweden going to ‘666’ cashlessness?) 
Elijah Thiel continues with this claim that he has already made some partially true prophecies concerning his Bro Baron Guttenberg.

This may very well be someone like Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg.
Here are 10 speculative predictions I have posted over the years related to Herr Guttenberg that have been at least partially fulfilled:
  1. He has advocated more European military cooperation.
  1. He became unpopular for a time (and still is among many).
  1. He ended up, for a time, outside of political office.
  1. He went out of the limelight for a while.
  1. He went into exile (self-imposed).
  1. His exile was to a humid location.
  1. People laughed at him.
  1. He has partially re-emerged in European politics.
  1. He has called for Germany to consider being a leader in data protection.
  1. He now has a beard.
  1. His early involvement with Ripple and blockchain could be setting him up to help fulfill Revelation 13:15-18.
Several of those predictions were based upon my understanding of prophecies in the books of Daniel and Revelation, plus outside sources (see also Might German Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg become the King of the North?). 
While these 10 speculative predictions do NOT prove that he is going to be the final King of the North European Beast power, he still bears watching.


Anonymous said...

Isn't the beast supposed to be fierce looking? Karl doesn't exactly look like a psycho.
Why would a winner like Karl agree to be the beast leader and end up in the lake of fire? And drag his family name through the mud.

Anonymous said...

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg now has a beard. What more proof does one need???

Hoss said...

He now has a beard.

Who could have seen that coming?

So Guttenberg is again confirmed as the successor of Mussolini, Hitler, and Franz Josef Strauss. And blockchain joins crowdsourcing and the Hadron Collider in the list of evil technologues.

DennisCDiehl said...

It is stunning to me...

"He became unpopular for a time (and still is among many).

He went out of the limelight for a while.

His exile was to a humid location.

People laughed at him.

He now has a beard."

How profoundly stupid Bob's idea of being a prophet is.

I predict the Two Witnesses will both use Old Spice Aftershave
They will be unloved by most
Each will know to raise their hand so other knows they wish to speak.
Their mothers will express an need to have them home for Thanksgiving
They partially will have finished community college
Each will have gotten high grades on the Bible Correspondence Course
Each will have sent it all in so they have nothing to lose
They will both will insist on sunburn protection lotion during their ministry

Byker Bob said...

In recent decades, our presidents have been globalists, part of the world community working for better international communication and more effective management of the many problems facing our planet. Within the past year, the USA has largely seceded from this, and has assumed the posture of a rogue nation, untrustworthy and unpredictable in its activities. Other nations are concerned about emerging white nationalism, which last reared its ugly head and was defeated in World War II.

The rest of the powerful nations of the world, should they continue on a globalist path, or should they respond with their own brands of nationalism, are going to be exploring ways to bring control back to their efforts, and to bringing pressures on the US to return it to sanity and trustworthiness as a global partner. The Bannon Nazis are even more dangerous than the Neocons were during the early Bush II regime.

I don't see Bitter Bob's Bro Baron as ushering in the Armstrong Beast Power, but I do see him as possibly authoring some of the leverage needed to return the USA to the correct side of history. The Germans take issues as global climate change very seriously. That nation has recently risen to the status of "leading brand", most admired and trusted amongst all of the nations of the world. However, China is the nation most likely to assume leadership in the world financial community, not Europe or Germany.


Connie Schmidt said...

Guttenberg and American Express are bringing back "RIPPLE" ???

Wasn't RIPPLE some kind of low life carbonated wine made by Gallo back in the 80s?

Anonymous said...

Hi all
This is Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe. Since my house arrest, I've pondered joining Bobs African church. Perhaps Bobs God can deliver me, and strike down my enemies.

Anonymous said...

My days in WCG/GCI I never was into prophecy. I sometimes would get up and walk out of church service if the sermon revolved around prophecy. Bible prophecy is ambiguous and anybody can put their on little twist to it. People should stop worrying about future events that may or may not happen!

Anonymous said...

8.39 AM
In my 8 years in WCG, I never saw one member walk out of church services. It would not have been tolerated. Odd that you got away with it.

Byker Bob said...

The deaks would have stopped them and held them for counselling in our congregations.


Anonymous said...

Bull shit, in the Tupelo congregation I got up and walked out sometimes. I don't know what congregation you went to in which you had been forced to stay till service was over, but that shit didn't happen in Tupelo.

I served Thiel pork in LCG said...

I also walked out of many services, even ones where HWA spoke and particularly when Waterhouse or Blackwell would show up.

RSK said...

I don't recall seeing it occur, but I'm sure it did from time to time. I imagine the gossip cluckers in the various congregations would buzz over that. One that I had to attend was full of "cluckin hens" that never missed the slightest cough. Ugh.

As for BB's deacons, I know he's usually describing the WCG pre-1975. Maybe guidelines for that scenario were stricter then? Just guessing, based on other stories Ive heard about earlier periods of WCG.

RSK said...

As for Tupelo specifically, I only dropped in there once. I remember very little of it.

I Eat Pork Sausage For Breakfast said...

It is a proven fact that you never piss someone off in the deep south (dixieland) because you might get your teeth adjusted and get your eyes dotted. I know from experience. ;)

RSK said...

Well, I did walk out of a WCG service c. 1995, but I hadnt attended in a few years at that point and just wanted to see all tbe confusion and frustration Id been told about re: doctrinal shifts. There was the pastor up on his stage trying to do a convincing sermon about paradigm shifts and change being good and yadda yadda to a rather unimpressed audience, and after 30-40 min of watching that silliness (whatever else he might have been, the persuasive angle didnt seem to suit him), I left.

The funny thing was that I encountered maybe fifteen members hanging around outside the venue's door when I did so. I distinctly remember one of them saying to me "Get away from this church while you can." He went on to join Global not long after, I think. Maybe he was making his exit right then too.

RSK said...

Anyway, sorry, off topic. Thiel thinks the beard and humidity is a significant piece of criteria for Beastdom? And how come all of Bobs points were numbered "1"?

Anonymous said...

What seems to work best with FALSE PROPHETS like Flurry, Pack, Weinland, and Thiel is a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY.

Do NOT send them any money.

Do NOT read their writings (whether written by themselves or plagiarized from another false prophet).

Do NOT listen to their babbling (which could go on for 80+ delete-able sermons on just one diversion).

Do not wait even 3 to 5 years, much less 15 to 20 years, just to see that their prophetic guesses were wrong, and have them try to string you along with more “progressive revelation” that they make up as they go along to try to continue to access our mind and your wallet that is connected to your mind.

Anonymous said...

Jesus warned that many false prophets would come and said to beware of them. Jesus said that you would know them by their fruits. They come only to lie, steal, destroy, and kill.

Many false prophets have popped up and pooped all over the so-called COG scene today. Gerald Flurry, David Pack, and Ronald Weinland come to mind. Bob Thiel would not come to mind (being known only in Africa from a suckers list) if it were not for the free advertising that he gets on a certain Blog.

The false prophets set themselves up as high as they possibly can, introduce massive doctrinal heresies while falsely claiming to be holding onto the truth, lie to everyone, steal everything they can, destroy marriages and reputations, wreck families and friendships in the churches, leave people destitute, and want to kill off their own followers so they can inherit everything they own. All their prophetic predictions and guesses that are verifiable or falsifiable invariably fail. They cause endless confusion and division. Nothing but evil ever comes of them.

Then, the false prophets get around Jesus' warning about “knowing them by their fruits” by simply lying some more and claiming that all their totally rotten fruits are actually good fruits. They basically pass off all their lying, stealing, destroying, and killing as the sort of “good fruits” that Jesus is looking for in a good cult member.

Anonymous said...

RSK You must have visited the auditorium. That gathering of grumpies as they were called, were also referred to as The Lobby Church of God. They would whine, piss and moan about every imaginable. Never has there been a group of nastier people. I also imagine the person you are talking about as Don Davis, one of the most self-righteous arrogant pricks Pasadena had as a deacon. A molesting deacon on top of the rest of his portfolio of asswipness. He would bitch and moan about doctrine and then stick his hands down boys pants. Imperial students hated his guts, but because church members were not supposed to sue church members, no one ever did anything about the jerk. including notifying the police.

Byker Bob said...

I did sabbath security in Pasadena during the '70s. It was like dullsville, man. The most exciting thing that happened was that on one occasion, some of the church teenagers were catching a smoke outside the Imperial gym while their parents were in services. I had established a rapport with the kids, and had the situation controlled, and then another volunteer guard came along and read them the riot act. At least they realized that not all adults in the church were pricks. In retrospect, I should probably have bummed a cigarette.


Anonymous said...

Completely off topic: I attended Tupelo UCG for a few years beginning in 1995. It looks like there is another ex-Tupelo member in this forum?

Anonymous said...

Regarding Anon 6:03 PM and Don Davis, it seems that Rod Meredith encouraged a strange gay-ish subculture at LCG HQ. Several of Meredith's top men and a few other HQ men are still unmarried even after age 50. Several of the married ministers are at the very least effeminate, and several have had gay rumours floating around them for years.

Why would this happen? Perhaps this happened because real men would have stood up to RCM's bad behaviour. RCM, himself effeminate, perhaps felt more comfortable as a man when around these less manly men. Also, there is the possibility of blackmail. If RCM had proof that you were gay, he could frighten you into becoming a "yes man" and not telling him the truth about his behaviour.

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