Tuesday, December 17, 2019

Kieren Underwood: Was Armstrongism Just a Misreading of Higher Biblical Criticism?


Was Armstrongism Just a Misreading 
of Higher Biblical Criticism?  
Kieren Underwood

Note: This post isn't dogmatic. I'm just throwing these ideas around. Feel free to send me some comments telling me how you think I’m right or wrong.


I.
There's a dominant narrative which circles anti-COG blogs like these about the origins of Armstrongism. I believe it goes something like this:
Armstrong was a charismatic, narcissistic businessman whose projects all failed around the time of the Great Depression. Loma stumbled onto the 7th-Day Adventist/Church of God community and Herbert followed a little later. In this peculiar religion Armstrong found a new “product” to sell. Unorthodox doctrines, “we are the One True Church,” and “the End-Times are Coming” all made for profitable and dedicated believers. Whether Armstrong even believed these ideas himself is up for debate. In any case, he took them and created an expanding cult—whose rules and doctrines he could essentially change at a whim.
This narrative obviously has some truth to it. I’m sure most readers would add a few things here and there. Perhaps the fact that the World Wars and the ever-looming Cold War/nuclear winter gave Americans much to be worried about. Perhaps the fact that society changed some of its norms rather quickly throughout the 1950s-70s and conservative religion was a popular reactionary movement. Armstrong could use these to his advantage.

But I’m skeptical that this can be all there is to it, because it partially violates Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”

I want to add another narrative to these set of ideas. I actually have two in mind, but the first one—about Armstrong’s reaction to his Quaker upbringing, a religion whose slogan is essentially “do whatever your inner light tells you”—will have to wait for a different post.

The second is this:

Could it be that many of the doctrines that Armstrongism had were just misreadings of legitimate problems brought up by Higher Biblical Criticism?Or, in other words:
Armstrong’s doctrines (and thus some of those associated with 7th-Day Adventists/Jehovah’s Witnesses/any of the other groups Armstrong stole from) weren’t just wacky, clearly wrong religious ideas that happened to bring in a lot of cash. They were an uneducated (thus the misreading) response to the legitimate theological problems that German and Dutch theologians had brought up in the 18th and 19th centuries.
II.

First, what is Higher Biblical Criticism? Anyone reading this site is probably already familiar with some of the main concepts behind this movement which started in the 17th century. Dennis Diehl posts quite often about them, just without the movement’s name attached. Criticism of New Testament inconsistencies (e.g., why are the birth or resurrection stories not consistent?), analysis of the real authors of Gospels/Epistles (e.g., Paul only wrote seven of the 13/14 usually attributed to him), discussion of the historical Jesus (e.g, was he a sage, a messianic prophet, a miracle-worker, an exorcist? etc.), analysis of the different theological stances in the New Testament (e.g., did Paul and Jesus have different messages?)—these are all things that Higher Biblical Criticism started talking about.

In fact, if you know, because Armstrong told you, that I John 5:7-8 (“there are three that bear witness...”) is a late 4thcentury addition, you know a bit about the methods of Higher Criticism.

III.


So why did I begin thinking about this? I was reading V.A. Harvey’s book The Historian and the Believer and I came across this passage:
“Jesus cast his own message in terms of the future coming of the kingdom of God, whereas the proclamation of the church had to do with a past event, the death and resurrection of Christ. Jesus' message was not primarily about himself, whereas the kerygma of the church is explicitly Christological, that is, the proclamation of a heavenly being who came to earth, was crucified, and taken to heaven as the exalted Lord. This obvious difference, which Biblical criticism had made clear, has always been appealed to by liberal Protestants and others in support of an alleged sharp discontinuity between the so-called religion of Jesus and the religion about Jesus."
I’ve crudely bolded and italicized the portions I want to draw your attention to. Harvey says that scholars have known for a long time about the different/contradictory messages we receive from Jesus and his followers. When we read the Gospels, Jesus is not at all concerned with himself as the “exalted Lord.” He tells people to “repent and believe the gospel,” gives them some moral teachings and parables, and talks about the coming Kingdom. Then after he is crucified, his followers start going around saying “you just need to have faith in Christ and you’ll be saved.” Wait a minute... if Jesus knew that was going to be the case, why didn’t he just say that in the first place? Why is the message of Jesus different from the message his followers tell about him?

But just hold those thoughts in your mind for a moment. Add some ALL CAPS, some more excessive italics, about five or six exclamation marks, and a quote about “never before has traditional Christianity understood this Truth!” Doesn’t it now sound like Armstrong, explaining to us all that Christianity has replaced the “Gospel Of Christ” with the “Gospel About Christ”?

The unfortunate thing, of course, is that “traditional Christianity” had noticed the disparity between what Christ talked about and what the people who wrote the New Testament talked about. Scholars had been talking about it for two centuries years before Armstrong was even born.

Armstrong liked to retell his conversion story where he decided to hit the libraries for six months straight, studying the commentaries and dictionaries. Knowing Armstrong, we are probably justified in doubting the depth of this study, but I don’t think we can deny that Armstrong had an, albeit shallow, understanding of many such issues in the Bible—issues brought up by the Higher Critics.

The problem is that, instead of reading the texts as the more thorough scholars did, weighing each side, trying to work out the different theological influences in the texts, devising explanations for the differences in emphasis, Armstrong just said: “Look! I’ve found it! The truth that everyone has missed for thousands of years, and that Satan has blinded Christians from seeing! The Gospel should be Of Christ not About Christ!”

And then people, seeing that he was partially correct, believed him. Never mind the fact that Protestant and Catholic scholars had good explanations, better scriptural analysis, and more accurate historical backgrounds to situate this problem in.

Here’s the general formula Armstrong seemed to follow:


1. Find a biblical problem/discrepancy/debate that Higher Criticism has unearthed.
2. Fail to see that there are legitimate forms of evidence on either side of the issue, and that one can read the problem in many ways.
3. Pick the culty/7th-Day Adventist/Jehovah’s Witness side of the issue.
4. Proclaim that the problem he has solved is a New Truth—that Satan/God has held this knowledge back from Christianity for millennia.
5. Repeat steps 1-4 until you become an Apostle.
Think about the way that Armstrong dealt with the Sabbath problem.
Now, I’m an atheist so I have no investment in whether Christians should keep Saturday or Sunday. But it seems to me that there are good arguments on both sides. If the Catholics are right—since the Church created the Bible, they really do have the authority to change the Sabbath to a Sunday in order to differentiate themselves from Jews—then it’s a Sunday. But if the Protestants are right—the Bible is the final authority, sola scriptura—then it’s a Saturday. Armstrong seems, after that six-month study of his, never to have stumbled upon the actual Catholic argument for Sunday-worship! At least, you never get a look at it in any of his literature.

Once again, a problem with two sides. Once again, a complete misreading, or ignorance of, the evidence. Once again, a proclamation of New Truth.

So, how much of this is intentional? Do we know? How much of it is just a misreading of the problems that Higher Criticism dug up for us
?
IV.

Now, here’s the part where I drag out a few more examples and try to convince you that this is what Armstrong did over and over again.

But first, a comment on Higher Criticism.

One of the big problems with Christianity and scholarship is that almost none of it gets filtered down to the average “believer” in sermons. In fact, the scholarship of German and Dutch theologians in the 1800s would seem so radical to the average Christian now that they would scarcely believe those scholars called themselves Christian. How many average Christians could tell you the arguments of Albert Schweitzer about the historical Jesus? What about Bultmann’s idea that faith is almost completely independent of the historical evidence of the resurrection? I was amazed, years ago, to find out that there were Archbishops of Canterbury in the early 1900s who didn’t even believe in the literal resurrection of Jesus. Does the average Christian know that almost no Christian scholars believe II Peter was written by Peter; that there is virtually unanimous agreement that half of the Pauline epistles were written by people pretending to be Paul?

If Armstrong got away with misreading the problems that Higher Criticism uncovered, it is the fault of Christians pastors, who upon going to seminary and being taught about all this, went on to discuss precisely none of these issues with their flocks. Instead, they get apologetics, Jesus Loves You, apologetics, and more Jesus Loves You.

Anyway. Back to the examples.


a.  The Faith vs. Works Debate
The Faith vs. Works debate has usually been framed in terms of The Protestants vs. The Catholics. But it also makes sense to frame it in terms of Paul vs. James, or Christian vs. Jewish-Christian. Once you step away from the dogma that the New Testament is a completely unified set of texts all aiming at a unified theology, this becomes very obvious. Clearly, Paul had some different ideas than James on the emphasis given to faith and works. You can try to get out of this by saying "Paul and James just needed to give different lessons to different congregations,” or some similar evasion, but trust me, smarter people than you and I have tried that explanation and found it wanting. Now this is okay. It doesn’t mean have to pick one or the other. You just recognize there are different streams of thought within the New Testament.

This was one of the major issues Higher Criticism explored, and it was F.C. Baur in the 1800s who established that there was somewhat of a major theological battle between the Jewish-leaning Christians (Peter/James) and those who wanted to differentiate themselves from Jewish theology (Paul/Luke). Cue a discussion about the circumcision debate in Acts 15 and Galatians 2. Please note that this is not controversial—it is the accepted view of almost every Christian scholar since Baur pointed it out.

But once again, what does Armstrong do? Ignoring the nuance, Armstrong almost immediately sides with James, decides works are very, very important, and tries to bend everything Paul says to make it sound like he agrees as well. Once again, traditional Christians are just Deceived By The Devil on this issue, and Armstrong has revealed The Truth.

b. The Trinity Debate
The same thing happens for the Trinity debate. The Higher Critics began to publish books on Marcion, Mani, Arian, and the various Gnostics, all who had non-traditional views on what Jesus was, and how he was related to the Father and the Holy Spirit. The problem of the nature of Christ (and thus the Trinity) was obviously a hard one, because it took Christians nearly four centuries to get anything which looked like a consensus on the issue—and even then, it took a Roman Emperor (Constantine) to essentially make it all happen.

I’m not going to act like the non-trinitarian tradition didn’t exist all the way throughout Christian history. Obviously, it did. John Calvin killed Michael Servetus in the middle of the Reformation just for preaching about it. The Higher Critics just gave us a lot more information about the atmosphere and arguments of the New Testament period. And Armstrong, like always, took that history, selectively ignored everything that went against his interpretation, and proclaimed The Truth had been discovered.
   
c.      c.  The Crucifixion/Resurrection Debate

It may seem surprising to us now, but Christians, left with some obviously troublesome timelines and descriptions of the crucifixion/resurrection managed to simply ignore them for nearly 1800 years. Let us face the truth that the Higher Critics discovered and published: there are some very significant and unresolvable problems with the crucifixion/resurrection narratives. Most biblical scholars chalk this up to there being multiple oral traditions of the crucifixion/resurrection which necessarily went through some pulling and stretching in the intervening 30-60 years before they were published in the Gospels. This is the reason why Armstrong was able to argue, so convincingly to many, that the traditional Catholic 1 day-2 nights was a Satanic Lie and it needed to be substituted with a 3 day-3 night alternative.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t believe Armstrong was right. I just believe he was not-wrong-enough-such-that-it-was-plausible, because of the very fact that the New Testament sources either don’t give us enough information, or give us contradictory information, in order to get at The Real Truth of the crucifixion/resurrection timeline.

Once again, the Higher Critics had discovered some problems with the biblical text. Armstrong saw this, picked a side, ignored the Higher Critics explanations, and unveiled it as New Truth.
d. The End-Times Debate
Albert Schweitzer, my favourite theologian of all time, closed the search for what was called “The Quest for the Historical Jesus” in the early 1900s with the proclamation that Jesus’ ministry was essentially eschatologically focused—that is, the Jesus who lived on earth (not the heavenly being Jesus) was very concerned with the end-times, the imminent coming of the Kingdom of God.

And for Schweitzer, that was a big problem, since that meant Jesus was wrong—the end-time didn’t come within a generation like the disciples thought it would. Diarmaid MacCulloch, in his A History of Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years, describes Schweitzer in tragic terms: a theologian who believed Jesus’ career “had been built on a mistake.”

A new quest for the historical Jesus was picked up again in the 1960s, and many theologians pushed back against the idea that Jesus was obsessed with the end-times. But the time in between was characterized by the majority of scholars siding with Schweitzer’s idea that Jesus had been an eschatological prophet (“end-times prophet”). This is exactly the period Armstrong developed his theology in.

Like many of the problems the Higher Critics discovered, it called out for an inventive answer. If Jesus was an eschatological prophet, did that just mean he was completely wrong? The Critics had their own answers. The fundamentalists, and Armstrong, had their own: Jesus was right! The end-times were coming, of course, but in our time instead. You know the rest of the history: Jesus was going to return in 1936, then in World War II, then sometime in the 1960s, then in 1975, then whenever the Gospel had been preached to the world.

Now, I’m not saying that this idea of a misreading of the Higher Critics completely explains Armstrongs obsession and use of the end-times. The brunt of it is explained by the traditional explanation—that it was a convenient tool to get people to give their money to Armstrong, and keep them in a constant state of fear. I just wonder if this other model can explain part of it as well.

V.

Here’s the part where I tell you all of the above could be wrong.

It just so happens that there are whole other large movements of Christianity that have the same doctrines and emphasis on the end-times as Armstrongism have. Could we not just explain Armstrongism as a movement managed by a man who stole all of his doctrines from these groups, and wasn’t thinking about the problems the Higher Critics brought to light at all? I’m not sure...

That certainly could be the case, and if you think so, I’d like to hear the reasons why. But there certainly were people who took the problems of the Higher Critics, ignored all the nuanced and historically informed explanations, and just skipped to the whole We Are the One True Church spiel right away. Whether Armstrong was one of those people is something I’m not dogmatically confident about. Whether we can even know if Armstrong was sincere in his belief is another question I’m not even sure is possible to answer. But if the ex-COG community is going to know anything about historical questions, it’s going to be that things are not always as simple as they seem.

36 comments:

nck said...

It looks like Kieren just wrote the Systematic Theology Project in relation to my incoherent ramblings.

I agree wholeheartedly and even had Greg Doudna acknowledge my point regarding part of the 16th century origins of BI in the protestant problems with the catholic habsburg pharao with the protestant princes in the role of Moses.

I brought up Quakerism many times and the interesting amalgamation of HWA's philosophy with a long and grounded history that HWA for sure was not aware of since he served as the embodiment or incarnation of the philosophical underpinnings of a wider revolutionary stream of thought (or movement or zeitgeist or whatever you want to call it) Summarized by hwa and the fundamentalists as a battle versus darwinisme, while actually being the anti thesis to the thesis bringing synthesis.

A synthesis I have consistently called "the current world tommorow" in which we are living and the one to which we are heading, which is surveillance capitalism "solving" man's woes.

Yes. I believe HWA was the anti thesis VS the thesis and our generation is about to bring the synthesis, regardless of belief system as symbolized by HWA's high priority in 1979 to bring about the sinai monument for the 3 religions, while in fact his message of "the hidden hand" worked to destroy all traditional religion, which is what free trade and affluence do.

Nck

Anonymous said...

Jesus was right, he was just "a little off on the timing"!

I'll come in again.

If, by Hanlon’s Razor, you're suggesting that HWA was not well enough read on the topic to have framed his doctrines in terms of higher criticism, I think you're probably on to something there. It takes a seminarian seeking a terminal degree several years to become conversant in such things. By his own account, I don't see how HWA could have had the time to have read, let alone to have misread, higher criticism. I'm not even sure that "six months" was even true. I don't expect he was above making up something like that to help lend some sort of air of "legitimacy" for his point of view to noobs and rubes living on the land within memory of frontier days.

Besides, a knowledge of higher criticism isn't necessary to explain HWA's doctrines, since they're just a tweaked version of the adventist doctrines he had already come into contact with. He didn't need to know anything other than that these adventist doctrines were different from the doctrines he was used to hearing. He didn't need to believe them himself, he just needed to see how others who were only familiar with orthodoxy might well be duped by adventist arguments. Contrary to the dictates of Hanlon, while HWA might not have been "smart" enough to comprehend the whole 9 yards, that doesn't mean there couldn't also have been some malice mixed in there with the "stupid" even so.

In all honesty, HWA had certain talents, but I'm not convinced they were in the intellectual departments anyway. They were in the marketing departments. He was simply someone who knew how to package and sell other people's products. In this case they were adventist's products, and in order to capitalize on them himself he needed his own brand and his own tithe collection department. When he needed intellectual talents, he didn't turn to his own wits, he hired that in.

DennisCDiehl said...

Thank you so much for your insightful and accurately presented post.

You very well explain the depth of what I have meant through the years by the term "mere Bible readers" and the phrase, "Pious convictions based on marginal information." I found these two concepts summed up my own training and sadly, approach to pastoring for years having been poorly trained in ministry and all things Biblical to begin with.

And like other topics you raise, that very trait was sure sign that WCG was more correct than say those trained down the street at Fuller Theological Seminary where I found myself, on occasion, studying in the library. It was because they were so highly trained, they could not see the truth the less than highly trained HWA and Company could so clearly see.

You know..."Professing themselves to being wise, they became fools..." It was an easy out to avoid the rigors of the study of higher criticism and coming to conclusions different from HWA and his WCG. After all, "not many wise men now are called, not many noble brethren, God choose the foolish of mankind, which to them is foolish." (not sure of the last line:) Felt good, sounded great and fit the organization to a tee.

1 Corinthians 1: 26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;"

...was all needed to declare victory on a proper view that theologians "of this world" have badly misunderstood and thus could be ignored, especially if it went against already established WCG beliefs. The calling cancelled the need to actually study to show oneself approved or to grow anything close to Grace and Knowledge. That was all wrapped up and now all one had to do is pray and pay and obey and stay.

At any rate, thank you for your posting. It is very true, accurate and how cautionary on how one should actually view the Bible especially since it can be used to cause such great harm to the sincere who are content with the role of mere Bible reader and wear their pious convictions based on limited and marginal study and faith restricted information as a badge of honor and actual proof of their being correct with no need to consider any other explanations or contextual meanings.

The next step in the literalism of the Churches of God would be an acceptance of the scientific method and current knowledge in all fields of endeavor as true even though the Bible, written by Bronze and Iron Age devotees, says otherwise. That's the growing in knowledge part most refuse to do and fight tooth and toenail to deny.

Nice post! Thank you

Tonto said...

I, TONTO, by my vested authority and calling (whatever that means! ;-) ) Do hereby declare a simplicity for this very long article.
An "Occams Razor" and concussion to the matters...

1) There is a God and Im not it (nor is anyone else!)
2) If you get a tattoo , make sure it is easily covered.
2) Stay out of jail at all costs.
3) Dont get "high".
4) Dont let your genitals do your thinking at any time. There is more to life than sex.
5) It is good not to work seven days a week. Taking Saturdays off functions for me.
6) Stay out of debt.
7) Treat people the way you want to be treated.
8) The 10 Commandments are a good way to live life as a philosophy , even for an agnostic.
9) Wear your seatbelt and make sure you floss.
10) Eat less and Exercise more!
11) Buying Girl Scout cookies is a good thing.

See how simple it all is now!

Anonymous said...

"In fact, if you know, because Armstrong told you, that I John 5:7-8Open in Logos Bible Software (if available) (“there are three that bear witness...”) is a late 4thcentury addition, you know a bit about the methods of Higher Criticism."


Nope, I know that because the footnote in my bible claims that, had nothing to do with HWA!

Anonymous said...

DD said: The next step in the literalism of the Churches of God would be an acceptance of the scientific method and current knowledge in all fields of endeavor as true even though the Bible, written by Bronze and Iron Age devotees, says otherwise. That's the growing in knowledge part most refuse to do and fight tooth and toenail to deny.

My Comment: This whole posting is an accurate review of the history of Christianity. The question that comes to mind is whether there is a God who is an eternal Being who is involved in the development of human life and can this God be involved in the historical beginning and transition of human life? If there is can the bible be a source of revealing the relationship we have with this God in our life now and eternally? ASB

Anonymous said...

In short, the theme of Underwood's article is the hypothesis that Armstrong created Armstrongism as a reaction to Higher Criticism. My criticism is that 1) we can't know where he got his ideas and 2) it doesn't really make a lot of difference. Underwood's article is lengthy so let me take just once example. If Armstrong parsed through the controversy concerning the gospel "about Jesus" versus the gospel "of Jesus", why did he, in the final analysis, get the gospel of Jesus so wrong? Instead of a gospel about the coming of salvation, he came up with a "gospel" of predictive prophecy about end time events and the need to do a last, great work. In the context of this mistaken idea he disparaged WCG members for trying to "get" salvation and neglect the financial requirements of "the work." Clearly, an inversion of priorities that has led to the many money oriented splinter groups we have today. His solution to the gospel debate clearly bears the brand of HWA and not Higher Criticism. He may have lifted the dialectic from something he read but that is all the farther it went. And, finally, where he sourced the idea is not as important as understanding that he was mistaken about the central thrust of Christianity.

A comment on Higher Criticism. It is not sacrosanct. It is the diverse and internally inconsistent body of work generated by a bunch of educated guys with opinions. Dennis Diehl and I could be higher critics in the eyes of some. It is odd that some people will go into cardiac arrest over some difficult minutiae in the Bible and yet swallow Higher Criticism whole.

The fact that Armstrong took sides in the standard debates in Christianity may just indicate that he actually did do some reading in the library in Des Moines.

I descend from generations of Quakers and am distantly related to Herbert and Loma. I am interested in seeing what you have to say about the influence of Quakerism in Armstrong's theology. I see very little.

And, lastly, a sidebar. The faux controversy over faith and works, over Paul and James, gets far too much mileage among those who want to invalidate the Bible. Historically, it has gained prominence because it stands at the point of conflict between Protestantism and Catholicism. Two great Christian movements really want to disagree over this topic not for theological reasons but political reasons. Paul says we are made for good works and James says faith is accompanied by good works. So where is the vicious combat? It is among the self-interested denominations.

nck said...

There are many many many Qyakerisms in Armstrongism.

150 worldleaders commented on the central thrust of wcgs message of "peace". Quakers stood at the foundations of anti war and arms and conscientious objector legislation.

UTOPIA....

Goodbye FRIENDS.....

Nck

Anonymous said...

nck,

You should start your own church seeing how you know so much. Her's a template for the new work.
https://hwarmstrong.com/gycg/index.htm

Kieren said...

In regards to the Quakerism, I researched it a fair amount while I was studying at HWAC. I began to develop somewhat of a theory of how HWA reacted against it--that is, he may have found the inherently undogmatic/"trust your inner light"/"there are many ways to the truth" type of religion unsatisfying/boring, and his turn towards a hyper-dogmatic religion was his reaction to it. Its just another theory though...

I think some of the comments are probably right: 1) we can't REALLY know what he was thinking 2) he may actually have been too dumb to read much of the Higher Critics and 3) it may be better explained by him just stealing from 7th-Day/COG doctrines.

Perhaps the theory of a misreading of the Higher Critics should actually be applied the the 7th-Day Adventists/JWs instead!

As for Higher Criticism, someone commented that Higher Criticism is not sacrosanct. I mean.... yes, that's the point right. No one "swallows Higher Criticism whole" because its a movement where everyone has different answers to the problems. I think the point of Higher Criticism is the problems it raises, not the answers it suggests to them.

Kieren

Anonymous said...

'Mere bible reading' gives more than adequate instruction on qualifying for eternal life.
Christians don't need self appointed middlemen telling them what the bible really means. No mental seeing eye dogs are required. My, how many hanker for the good old days of only the Catholic priest having a bible, and him alone telling his congregation what the bible says. Even moralist Moses got swept away with such power lust, resulting in God banning him from the promised land.

Peoples behavior is governed by their beliefs (ie, faith). Having beliefs one doesn't act on, makes them meaningless. Acting without understanding is likewise foolish. So one must have rational beliefs, and act on them, ie, faith with works.

Anonymous said...

I have tried to make some connection between HWA and Quakerism and I can find little. HWA seems to emerge in this kind of inquiry as a standard Millerite - very different from a Quaker. Quakers did track the behavior and performance of their membership very closely. I have seen records in Hinshaw that a few of my relatives were brought before monthly meetings for using bad language. There may have been a network of spies who looked for misbehavior. I have not researched it that far. Young men in the WCG were required to apply for Conscientious Objector status like Quakers but so were Seventh Day Adventists. I don't know about other Millerites.

One may profile HWA as an anti-Quaker by showing how he reacted against Quaker beliefs and practices. I think that may be Underwood's intent. I am just not sure how much HWA knew about Quakerism.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:14 PM wrote, unaware of the irony:

'Mere bible reading' gives more than adequate instruction on qualifying for eternal life.
Christians don't need self appointed middlemen telling them what the bible really means.


Anonymous 5:14 PM seems not to realize that he has relied on self-appointed middlemen to tell him which books are even IN the Bible! Self-appointed middlemen didn't and still don't want Anonymous 5:14 PM to read any of dozens of texts that were circulating among Christians in the first couple hundred years of the new faith.

Anonymous said...

qualifying for eternal life

With this, we can understand that Anon 5:14 is many things, but he is not a Christian. Eternal life is a free gift, and while you can reject it or throw it away, you cannot "qualify" for it. You can qualify for greater or lesser position in the Kingdom of God, but anyone who says that eternal life comes as a result of Christ's sacrifice plus something else has not understood or experienced Christ's saving power.

Stoned Stephen Society said...

Appreciate the thought-provoking post, Kieren. Dan Rogers points out in his Adventist Roots presentation that if you put HWA's autobiography in a proper time-line, what you see is a man who's business failings all occurred during the roaring 20's. That seems most peculiar but as you put the autobiography together, what emerges is a lazy narcissist with an average (at best) intellect. I have been reading a book on narcissism and the author points out that while some narcissists are indeed very intelligent, even this is largely under-utilized by the narcissist because all of their being is spent getting what the author calls, "Narcissistic Supply." The narcissist lives only to satisfy the never satisfied need for this supply.

With that said, I don't think HWA had time to spend on self-educating in higher criticism. Instead, he binge consumed everything he could from the Adventist Movement and other related heterodoxy available to him in the Oregon library with the idea that he would market it to create a passive stream of (income, yes) but also Narcissistic Supply. He had no desire to debate or contemplate what if's of anything. He didn't even take the time to better mask his plagiarism. He needed to create black and white answers to questions that don't supply them and then marketed it with upmost hyperbole to maximize the supply he needed.

No one in their right mind can live in a constant state of urgency and yet that is exactly the way a narcissist lives and projects it onto everyone else to continually stir up the possibility of gaining supply. In everything I have read so far, HWA fits all the pathological earmarks of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I think NPD explains more about who HWA was and why he did the things he did, more than anything else. Just my opinion. I will probably put some posts together once I finish the book.

"Perhaps the theory of a misreading of the Higher Critics should actually be applied to the 7th-Day Adventists/JWs instead!"

That might possibly be the case although from what I have read about the early movement, none of them seem to be much interested in higher criticism either. The movement was triggered by "sure-fire" prophetic speculations from William Miller that failed epically and yet persisted and grew (Leon Festinger, anyone?). And a preacher from New York passing through the Mid-West planting seeds of Saturday Sabbath adherence. A short study into the persons of Ellen G. White (SDA), Charles Taze Russell (JW) and Joseph Smith (Mormonism) and a case can be made that they all suffered from NPD as well. Of course, all this said at the risk of being accused of finding a narcissist under every rock.

nck said...

6:45

Using your reasoning is it possible for Satan to be saved (still), is it not too late if Satan steps forward in a graham convention? Is he/she eligible for receiving a free gift IF he would just repent wholeheartedly?

Nck

Jim said...

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there are few religions I would have found more differentiated from Armstrong’s than that of the Quakers.
I believe the distinguishing characteristics of Armstrongism was special truth and hierarchy. From my understanding, Quakers are not into hierarchy and conduct services that might be completely quiet as they sit together unless someone has an inspired word. And still it is based on the word rather than the individual; hence the friends church.

nck said...

NEO seems to be looking for legalistic clues for similarities between Quakers and wcg while Kieren and I agree on a permeating influence of "thought patterns".

Even the thought that PT poses that I or just a random guy can "start" a church is "pervasive American democratic religious philosophy" that got all European governments to respond to the 1967 GTA radio broadcasts permeating that culture of "liberalism."

I doubt that you will ever be able to grasp that "American fundamentalism" in classical religious thought was perceived as "American liberalism" in the sense of being outside of established religion.

What most on this blog perceive as HWA s "hypocrisy" is actually the ultimate expression of American practicality and opportunism as expressed in the Practices, but may be not the PILOSOPHIES of the NEW religions like quakerism that flourished in the new democracy. (who anathema to the old worlds religions had the guts to choose their own (religious) leaders instead of the appointed ones.

Moreover I would like to make the point that the ridiculous people here harp on the point that HWA got BI from a Portland library.

While HWA makes very clear that his grandmother had told him the basics of BI way before.

Again look at documentaries about the Quakers and the comments on the cutlery, spoons and forks and other tools they made and a "PLAIN" "PRACTICAL" culture emerges that is steeped in the DOING Religion, instead of steeped in philosophical musings.

It is PLAIN, DEMOCRATIC (as expressed in HWA's 1940 writings on church government) and filled with NEW SOCIETY thinking as expressed by the architects of the entire Pasadena campus whose destruction is bemoaned by knowledgeable architects rather than the common crowd who filled those halls.

This is the "PLAIN (quakerism) truth,

Goodbye FRIENDS (nickname for Quakers)

(this practicality in religion with THE ACT or THE WORK as the EXPRESSION of religion instead of UNDERSTANDING AND Philosophy is shared by JUDAISM AND Islam and anathema to Christian philosophy where the understanding goes before the act.

HWA, proudly boasted to have kept the Feast days for years BEFORE understanding their meaning. THAT IS Quakerism, Judaism, Islam in action.

I do agree that the Amish as contemporaries would be hesitant of a GIII ride. Than again what do they know they are German after all.

Nck

Anonymous said...

6.42 PM
The Christian bible is Gods holy book. It was inspired and put together under His inspiration. I have on occasion experienced God putting certain scriptures into my mind to explain a situation. So it cannot be your middleman product.

6.45 PM
There's a contradiction in your rejecting or throwing away eternal life, but not qualifying for it. Who doesn't want eternal life? Who wants to throw it away? This is nonsense designed to intellectualise away the 'weeping and gnashing of teeth' thingy.
If you believe everyone should qualify for eternal life, you should meet some of my relatives. People with your viewpoint are silent when it comes to psychopaths or psycho lites. Even popcorn movies like Cobra understand that crazy people have to be put down, but no, not 'loving' Christians.

nck said...

Jim said...

"I believe the distinguishing characteristics of Armstrongism was special truth and hierarchy."


No Jim.
That are the distinghuishing characteristics for YOU.


To an Armstrongite those characteristics would be "government"
(the government of god).....that you attributed to the ministry as "hierarchy" (and perhaps the ministry themselves believed it too). HWA was about "government" which is not the same as hierarchy, HENCE his "professorship and honorary doctorate" as professor of CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. (for the cost of 100.000 dollar)


"Special Truth", again a matter of interpretation. Many majored on the minors, the specialities, but to any person truth is truth or as another servant of "the government" Rumsfeld put it,

"because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know."


And again.....I suggest googling "quakers and utopia or utopianism"

From Erin Ballar (whoever that may be)
The Bible is truth, and the Holy Spirit does not contradict itself
Hold personal testimonies professing peace, integrity, humility, and community
Equality for all, although homosexuality is questioned
God's kingdom is now, heaven and hell is up to an individual to believe
Humans are naturally good
A little bit of God is in everyone
Recognize evil and eradicate it to the best of your ability



nck

Anonymous said...

Re the debate over qualifying for eternal life I'm inclined to agree with the observations of 6:45 PM.

I'm of the belief that salvation (or eternal life) is a divine gift. We are saved (or justified) by faith alone in Christ alone (e.g. Ephesians 2:8-9).

Armstrongism like Catholicism is a "plus religion." For instance, Catholicism teaches its followers are saved by faith plus works; grace plus merit; by Christ plus other mediators; according to Scripture plus tradition; to the glory of God plus Mary and other saints. Thus, according to Catholicism and any other works-based system of salvation like Armstrongism takes works and puts it at the root claiming our works plus our faith in Jesus produces salvation. The Christian Bible, however, teaches our works is actually the fruit of our salvation. Our faith in Jesus alone is the root that saves us and thus a life that's been saved, a sanctified, regenerated heart produces fruit (i.e. the fruit of good works). We may perceive someone professing to be a Christian is saved by their fruit, but the fruit isn't the reason they're saved since they're saved by God by His grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

Anonymous said...

Retraction:

In a previous comment I stated that James said that faith was "accompanied" by good works. James said considerably more than that. He said that Christians are justified by works in addition to faith. My statement was an oversimplification.

Anonymous said...

11.58 PM0
Yours is a common point of view in churchianity. It frequently appears in Christian writings. I recall my first minister criticizing me with your belief when he said something like 'but you have overcome using your own strength rather than Gods strength.' This amounts to rejecting the parable of the talents by claiming that God will do our overcoming for us. A personal responsibility is thrown back at God, which in fact He will not, and cannot exercise without violating our nature of being made in His image. This is part of Satans war on personal responsibility. Government handouts being one example of this. Satan knows that it will result in people losing their eternal lives.

Anonymous said...

Reading some of the comments here just make me cringe. It's kind of like how when I was a child I thought that pulling the blankets over my head would protect me from the monsters under my bed. If there had been a monster, my blankets would have afforded me no protection whatsoever.

If I told you that a Dragon, a Mermaid, or a Unicorn was going to magically save you from death, would you believe me? Even though you've never seen a Dragon, a Mermaid, or a Unicorn? Why would you believe me? You would have no reason to believe that.

But if someone told you a resurrected man was going to magically save you from death, you wouldn't think twice about believing it? Even though you've never seen a man resurrected? You have no reason to believe that. Yet you believe it anyway.

I will never cease to be amazed at how other people will take solace from believing that something is going to come along and magically save them from death, even though believing it has no power to make it actually come to pass. Just like deciding that unicorns must be real because you can't bear the thought of them not being real has no power to summon them into existence. Reality doesn't care what you can't bear to face up to. It won't mollycoddle you. Believing that it will isn't going to force it to. Your will doesn't have that power. You're going to wind up in the same condition regardless of how deeply you stick your head in the sand.

Sorry if I came along and said out loud that Santa isn't real, but the people here are old enough that they should be grown-ups already by now. Denying the gravity of adult-stuff doesn't make it go away. It won't shield you from it. We all share the same fate, and refusing to face up to it affords you no protection from that fate whatsoever.

When I was a child, I hid under my security blanket like a child, but when I became an adult I put away childish things.

Happy Holidays to You and Yours.

Anonymous said...

Post-Enlightenment 19th-century America was fertile ground for alternate Christian 'heresies' (no more church/state policing/punishment.) HWA was free build brand-differentiation to his eclectic 'shopping cart' (some things like BI would have been best left out, but there's no underestimating stupid.)

So though Christianity was on the skids by the 20th century, HWA was able to start one of the last major denominations!

Trouble was, by late 20th century, the cost of acquiring converts outstripped income from same. You could formulate an algorithm (I'm sure the Tkach team did) for cost of marketing vs income vs leakage/attrition and it no longer worked, because, for instance, it's much cheaper for dissidents to run counter-propaganda operations (very costly to post-HWA WCG+splinter cults!)

jim said...

Nck,

"Church government" was the euphemism used for hierarchy. HWA as you know taught an extremely flat church government at first when breaking from COG7. But, later championed a many layered hierarchy. You know this. Church government is not a distinguishing teaching (the basis of my comment); the many layered hierarchy of his "church government" euphemism was distinguishing from most other protestant denominations.

This hierarchy with his being between Christ and men and then paired with his special "revealed" knowledge/prophecy is what distinguished WCG right into the Kingdom of the Cults.

Anonymous said...

You could formulate an algorithm..for cost of marketing vs income vs leakage/attrition

So thus Pack pulls away from unproductive big television budgets..
But no worry, his numbers will explode as the lost sheep will - zombie like - converge on Wadsworth..
Just as Jesus' glorious 2nd advent to Wadsworth, occupying HQ with the slender end-time Apostle..

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:46 wrote:

Yours is a common point of view in churchianity.

I find it hilarious that Armstrongists throw the word "churchianity" around to describe believers in Jesus Christ, when in fact it is Armstrongism that worships a church structure/government that it places between believers and their Savior.

nck said...

No Jim.

"church government" was just the administration to get "the work" done. Or "feed the flock".

Every other chore ever performed by members for ministers was "attributed power."

In a theological sense I never prayed to any minister to intercess for me by God.

It was very clear for ALL members that the intercessor for man was Jesus and Jesus alone.

The entire message of "the work" was not about Jesus but about a "just government/the kingdom" to be set up by God under the direction of his Sons.

The scientific label of "cult" might apply.

YET AGAIN. the day I walked away from "the body" it was readily and immediately accepted as a PERSONAL CHOICE, Neither was I ever instructed to do or believe things I did not personally accept.

Although I did no that taking a post sabbath ham sandwich after service or the wearing of inappropriate dress or slinging cuzzwords at a minister would cause division if applied.

Nck

TLA said...

Very good post Kieran. Hope you will start posting more frequently.
It took me almost a year after coming out of Armstrongism to realize the Bible was the work of man, and not the infallible book I had believed in.
For my first year, I studied Messianic Judaism - which is a good way to escape for those looking to make a move away from COGland.
I came to realize (the obvious) that the Bible is a Jewish book with almost all the authors being Jews and immersed in Judaism - including Paul.
Despite - according to the Gospels - Jesus being well versed in the Bible, there are no books directly authored by Him. Plus we have the NT using the Septuagint (Greek) translation of the OT instead of the Hebrew.
From the gospel accounts, Jesus was a rabbi who spent all his time travelling in and between Jewish territories.
Jesus preached a less harsh form of Judaism where He put down the requirement of rituals not in the written Torah. The Pharisees (and others?) believed the oral Torah (later written down in various versions as the Mishnah) was equally binding and inspired.
The disciples after His death, decide to open up His interpretation of Judaism to the Gentiles, and mainly under the leadership of Paul, drop the requirement for the Gentiles to convert to Judaism to be full members of this new sect.
Some Messianic Jews believe the Judaism covenant requirements were dropped for Jews as well, and some don't. But they all agree that Acts 15 made it clear the Jewish covenants did not apply to the Gentiles.
The Gospels records many miracles and Jesus was recorded as saying His followers would do even greater miracles.
Yet here we are today, and no miracles.
We have rejected most of the scientific beliefs from over 2,000 years ago, but religious beliefs - or what we think they believed - still capture us in a vastly different world.
We don't know what people were thinking 2,000 years ago.
We can't even agree on what people are thinking today - Trump being a perfect example of this where different people can hear or read the same speech from him and be uplifted or angry, depending on their personal reality filter.

Anonymous said...

Anon7:05AM wrote:

"Trouble was, by late 20th century, the cost of acquiring converts outstripped income from same. You could formulate an algorithm (I'm sure the Tkach team did) for cost of marketing vs income vs leakage/attrition and it no longer worked, because, for instance, it's much cheaper for dissidents to run counter-propaganda operations (very costly to post-HWA WCG+splinter cults!)"

That's not really it. What happened was HWA died and then the internet happened.

HWA knew how to appeal to sincerely deluded people by casting doubt upon certain of their christian beliefs. He told them that what they were taught in their churches was wrong and was going to wind up with god punishing them dearly for it. Then, by pointing out that he didn't make that mistake, and that his church didn't make that mistake, then almost by default, he was right, and so if they followed him instead, then they would get the kind of eternal rewards that they had already been conditioned to expect, rather than being punished.

It does not follow that just because you don't make one particular mistake that someone else makes, that you either are right on that point yourself, or that you make fewer mistakes overall.

When HWA died in 1986, he left behind nobody who knew how to reel in the useful idiots anymore. Church attendance peaked in 1989, after the effects of the literature and broadcasts put out under HWA had finished bearing their fruit.

Then the internet was invented and a generation grew up who could fact-check sermons in real time and know when their preacher had just told them a whopper. Churches everywhere are in decline, it's not just the COGs, and a lowering tide lowers all boats.

The cost of acquiring converts does outstrip income from them, but there are reasons that made that happen. They lost the know-how to make a successful pitch just when they were going to have stiffer competition and a bleaker market in general because of the internet.

Byker Bob said...

Rod Meredith did mention the higher critics from time to time in Bible Class. Unfortunately, though, they were not as much a part of his syllabus as the nearly daily topic of masturbation.

One of the phenomena of Armstrongism was that occasionally when top ministers spoke against another group or that group's body of work, you would discover later that they had actually borrowed from that group, and just didn't want members to know. As an example, when I later read the Deuterocanonicals (Apocrypha), and the Nag Hammadi gospels, I found where government from the top down had come from. Some of the church's approaches regarding demons had come from within those same resources. I was shocked, even learning of this 30 years after having left. But, there it was.

HWA/WCG borrowed so much. Nothing was truly original in the movement, just the unique amalgum they created from all of the borrowed stuff.

BB

Anonymous said...

"I will never cease to be amazed at how other people will take solace from believing that something is going to come along and magically save them from death,"



Yet you were once a believer. What/who changed? And more importantly, why?

Anonymous said...

Anon4:10PM wrote:

"Yet you were once a believer. What/who changed? And more importantly, why?"

I was only a believer because I was indoctrinated from birth. I doubt I ever would have/could have believed otherwise.

What changed? I gained experience. Reality contradicted what my elders said. So who do I believe, the real world, or a bunch of people? Talk is cheap. People lie.

Why? I can only speak to my own experience, obviously, but christianity is vanity: it is void and empty of substance. There is nothing backing it up. It's gods appear to be false idols who do nothing because they are nothing. They are constructs of the human mind which then in turn imagines them to be gods, and so you fall down in devotion and worship. You pray to them and say, "Deliver me, for you are my god!" They may not be fashioned out of metal or wood, but might as well be.

If you have to shift the burden of proof to make up for your gods' failures, those gods are no better than any other false gods. If the survival of your gods requires special pleading that the burden of proof should only be shifted for them, and other gods shouldn't receive the same favors, your gods are failures. Every other god you shifted the burden of proof for would benefit equally, you just refuse to do it for those other gods. And so your god is "manufactured" through fallacies. That is how you create your gods. But an unfalsifiable god is still no god at all.

Gordon Feil said...

Kieren, I am joining the fray rather late. Once again, you have produced an eloquent easy to read essay. I appreciate it. I'll give you my reaction. Maybe some others have made similar comments. I don't know because I have yet to read them.

I do not agree with your foundational premise, which is that Jesus' message was primarily eschatological while the apostles' was mainly christological. An examination of the words of Jesus (easily done with a red letter Bible) shows that he spoke heavily about morality. He quoted from Exodus more than any other book except Isaiah, Deuteronomy and Psalms, and all those Exodus quotes were about morality. His number 3 book, as measured by frequency of the quotes, is Isaiah. Though Isaiah is known as one of the major prophets, Jesus' quotes from that book are all to do with human behavior. His number two source of quotations is Deuteronomy, and every one of his 10 quotes from that book are about morality.

The book Jesus most often quoted is Psalms and his quotes from there were mainly to show that he was savior and messiah --- a message that aligns with what you say the apostles preached. He often spoke of that role. We have the "I am" statements reported in John. We have Jesus saying that the reason he came was "to seek and to save that which was lost."

Of course, the easy rejoinder is to declare Jesus' words as not being his, even as you have declared many of the apostles' writings as not being theirs, but that would be a cheap and easy response.

I'll concede that Jesus said he was coming to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God, and he affirmed that function repeatedly. Yet the kingdom of God message is not just eschatological. It's about the influence of God in the lives of people. It's about the role of Christ in making God accessible to man.

Anyway, you asked what your readers think, and I have told you what one of us thinks.

Anonymous said...

6.29 PM
Christ criticized the 'Christianity' of his day when he condemned the Pharisees. That is what's meant by churchianity. Todays churches have upgraded the sheeps clothing, but Christ's criticisms are just as relevant.