Real Christians, those who follow that heretical disruptive guy from Gallaliee, are always about letting their light shine and putting their words into action in the world around them as they do their part to make the kingdom of God tangible to people around them.
That is unless you are a Church of God leader. Two of the larger COG's are literally ensconced on their compounds behind gates with security guards. God forbid if any of the unwashed unconverted masses of the world would ever be allowed to set foot on the "millennial" campuses these guys have conned their members into building. Gerald Flurry in Edmond, Oklahoma, and Dave Pack in Wadsworth Ohio, live their lives of privilege on their church funded grounds and in custom-built luxury homes safely behind gates and fencing. Security guards keep the demon influenced public away from the sacred homes of the fearless leaders.
Today I received notice about another Wardsworth Facebook group where Dave Pack and his cult are being discussed. Dave certainly has NOT made a positive impact in the Wadsworth community, despite the fact he conned the mayor to show up at his dedication and the press to write glowing reviews of his buildings as he expanded his compound headquarters.
Here is what spurred on the recent Dave Pack discussions on Facebook:
Imagine being so paranoid that Dave has to put burlap over the fencing in order to keep people from looking into his compound. Actually, I think it may be something else. That burlap keeps Dave from being able to see any of the unwashed heathen masses that drive by every day. He has even admitted he never goes off the compound for daily necessities in life. This way, his magnificent brain can be totally focused upon planning for the arrival of Jesus in Wadsworth sometime within the next year or so - as he keeps getting the date wrong. God forbid if any of the public got to see Jesus walking the grounds of the compound has He talks with Dave.
So Dave needs an armory? Where is his almighty god to protect him? Why is he not willing to be a martyr for his version of the truth? It is amazing to see what cowards the leadership is in the COG movement. They screech and bellyache about being persecuted and yet don't have the balls to be the powerful men they claim to be.
It's pretty sad that these so-called "men of God" are immediately seen as cult-leaders. Men who are supposed to be in direct communication with god. Being followers of The Way is not part of their insular worlds.
It is interesting to see how women are treated in the Restored Church of God. This sadly does not surprise me. Many of the other splinter cults of Armstorngism have treated women as less than for decades. I remember one elder in Pasadena who commanded his wife to walk behind him a few steps. She could never stand or walk directly beside him. More often than not, when you saw them together, she was always looking down at the floor.
It is hard to imagine this is the face that the public sees of Dave. Imagine Jesus ever doing anything like this.
We have reported here before how Dave is buying up all the houses in the area around his compound for the most loyal of his staff and followers can live. More proof:
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I say BRAVO to the citizens of Wadsworth that they are on to Dave Pack and his cult. They are right to be very afraid of Dave and what goes on there. Dave and his minions are in a position to do some very damaging things to members and those around him if he continues down the path he is on. From isolating his members from those around them and their families to requiring that his followers dish over from 20 - 90% of their income is appalling and should continue to be exposed. His nefarious new teaching on "all things common" should be a warning to the public and the local authorities that Dave is up to some dangerous shit!
The really sad thing is that when his followers heard his new teaching on "all things common" they bought into it unquestioningly. Many sold homes and businesses and cashed in life insurance policies and retirement plans to give it all to Dave. People took out mortgages on their homes and gave that all to Dave with the expectation of never having to pay it back to the back because Christ would return and they would not need to pay the bank back.
People warned the mayor and the local press when Dave was going on his "open house" media blitz that there was a darker side to Dave. People contacted the Wadsworth religion editor for the local paper and she refused to do any story that was negative about Dave.
Wadsworth citizens have a right to be concerned about what goes on at that compound and they should NEVER take the focus off of Dave and his cult. Dangerous times are ahead!
27 comments:
Dave Pack certainly is rich, and increased with goods!
With all the krapp going on with the covid-19, BLM demanding 14 trillion in $ and a compromised news media that calls good evil & evil good, it is very depressing to see most of the COG's focused on their own shortsighted ends. I was impressed by the black lady minister who went inside the CHOP zone in Seattle to warn the radical leftist of their sins. Now we are trending towards electing Biden who is obviously displaying signs of dementia & cognitive decline. Lord help us all.
David C. Pack is a serious danger to his own followers (he will leave them totally messed up in the head and destitute), to their families (he will get them to neglect and abandon their own families), and to the Church of God (he will make it look bad by passing off his own satanic cult as the true church).
However, David Pack probably is not yet such a serious danger to the community (because it has little to do with him). Of course, this could change for the worse. Nothing about David Pack and his RCG cult will ever change for the better.
“Gerald Flurry in Edmond, Oklahoma, and Dave Pack in Wadsworth Ohio, live their lives of privilege on their church funded grounds and in custom-built luxury homes safely behind gates and fencing.”
Gerald Flurry and David Pack are two of the very worst false prophets that Satan has sent against former Worldwide Church of God members to deceive them, rob them, betray them, and destroy them. These two false prophets have somehow managed to make even the Devil's apostate Tkaches appear to be downright reasonable and decent people compared to themselves.
Is nobody concerned about the fact that there are also posts about ‘ARMED guards on the compound’? I find that really unsettling.. Especially since the RCG always tells the members that ‘guns are not allowed’.
Why do they need guns?! Is David Pack preparing for a ‘Wacko-style’ shootout? Isn’t it time that the local authorities should be warned about this?
“Two of the larger COG's are literally ensconced on their compounds behind gates with security guards....Gerald Flurry in Edmond, Oklahoma, and Dave Pack in Wadsworth Ohio”
The PCG topped out years ago by snaring WCG members who thought that they were escaping from the apostate Tkaches but never stopped to think that they could be falling for a drunken false prophet. Over the years, many people smartened up and left the PCG as Gerald Flurry came up with more and more outrageous heresy all the time. The fake ministers that Gerald Flurry set up got their thrills kicking people out just for the fun of it and pretending that they had power to doom people to the lake of fire. Many people just grew tired of a false prophet and his fake ministers passing off all of their own satanic abuse as the “government of God.” The PCG has been in continual decline for many years now.
The RCG started later, and also preyed on former WCG members. It tried to attract supposedly solid believers, but then tried to turn them into the most wishy-washy believers around by having them go along with David Pack's continual doctrinal changes. People entered the RCG through the front door, got their brains turned into mush by David Pack's insane ongoing noise, got relieved of everything they owned, and then went out the back door and into the gutter.
Anonymous at 11:39 PM said...“Is David Pack preparing for a ‘Wacko-style’ shootout?”
Satan sent David Pack and Gerald Flurry to destroy former Worldwide Church of God members physically, mentally, and spiritually. Armed shootouts are not really necessary to do the job. Besides, the COG false prophets like David Pack and Gerald Flurry are too soft and comfortable to do armed shootouts. They use their continually lying mouths to destroy their followers. Apparently, that is easy to get away with. Armed shootouts are not so easy to get away with.
Does anyone here know if Mr Ryan Caswell is still a member of RCG? The rumor is, that he (and his wife) left the ‘church’
However, whenever how this ends, it will be messy.
June 27, 2020 at 1:05 AM
Dave is interested in MONEY and will not risk his life or fortune on some religious or political ploy. He built his kingdom like Herbie did. He got what he wanted, now he is enjoying his little thiefdom.
I counted 29 parcels that the RCG has acquired for the kingdom expansion. Most with a logical mind would think that the monies spent for these houses could have been put into another purpose instead of satisfying their own desires.
The official statement from Mr. Pack concerning the purchase of all of these properties was that these properties are going to make money for the church. Yes you heard that right. These houses are about making MONEY for Prophet Pack.
So instead of the ministers renting houses out in the local community where local landlords could benefit and the local economy would more so benefit, Dave Pack in his gold mine and company house game that he is playing is only looking for other revenue streams that benefit himself and his expansionist ideas.
The RCG has become nothing more than but a fundraising and real estate organization.
Pack has created many enemies over the years, and has wrecked many lives. It is not surprising that he has the security "stasi" that he does.
Anonymous said...
Is nobody concerned about the fact that there are also posts about ‘ARMED guards on the compound’? I find that really unsettling.. Especially since the RCG always tells the members that ‘guns are not allowed’.
Why do they need guns?! Is David Pack preparing for a ‘Wacko-style’ shootout? Isn’t it time that the local authorities should be warned about this?
As a former member of the security detail, there were no guns present at that time. But, the directions for security detail during Mr. Pack's presence were onerous. In a public building, this included searches of the women's restrooms, all business offices, the kitchen area, storage rooms and closets, parking garage, elevators, stairwells and more.
The only command for violence was for "anything goes" for neutralizing any subject who is deemed a threat.
Anonymous said, "Is nobody concerned about the fact that there are also posts about ‘ARMED guards on the compound’?" and WHAT ABOUT THE TRUTH replied, "The only command for violence was for "anything goes" for neutralizing any subject who is deemed a threat".
MY COMMENT - Given that attending Sabbath Services in an ACOG can get you killed - just ask the Milwaukee congregation of the Living Church of God who innocently suffered the demonic rage of Terry Ratzmann long before Church mass shootings became more common - it wouldn't surprise me if armed guards are posted on Communist Dave Pack's compound. Given Pack's "Common doctrine communist manifesto, can't place the supreme leader or his loyal tithe slaves in harm's way if another Terry Ratzmann type wakes up and finds out he/she has been bamboozled out of their life savings by a "common" con man.
Richard
NO2HWA said, "Today I received notice about another Wadsworth Facebook group where Dave Pack and his cult are being discussed".
MY COMMENT - Gary, you have probably already thought of this, but in case you haven't, you should make the Wadsworth Facebook group aware of this Banned by HWA post. I went to the Group's FB page so I could make them aware, but there was no messaging option and I didn't want to join. I think this post would be even more effective if the Wadsworth community could join in and contribute directly. It would certainly raise more local public awareness.
Richard
WHAT ABOUT THE TRUTH said, "The RCG has become nothing more than but a fundraising and real estate organization".
MY COMMENT - In the real estate investment community, the term "OPM" is used to describe the leveraged use of "Other Peoples' Money". Dave Pack's communist "common doctrine" fits quite nicely in that it is the ultimate in using "other peoples' money". The only difference is that the "other people" are suppose to be in a secured property lien or position and that they are supposed to get their investment money back. A HUGE difference between communist Dave Pack and a real legitimate real estate investment organizations.
Richard
Ricahrd...we are working on that.
To the person asking about Ryan Caswell, he and his wife left late last year.
I just learnt that televangelist Jesse Duplantis is asking his followers to donate $54 million for a new fourth jet. It claims he needs it for its extra milage.
It makes you wonder whether the ACOG leaders are secretly competing with these "fake Christian" outsiders. After all, why should Kenneth Copeland be the only religious leader living in a $6 million home?
Unfortunately many big time evangelists have lost sight & been corrupted by lust & greed. I do commend Franklin Graham's Association with Samaritan's Purse, it does a lot of good.
Good for them! Free at last
I wonder whether the ministers by Dave's side in the photo, as well as all his other ministers, realize that they are cheapening and dishonoring themselves by remaining in this thieving church. What are they going to say on judgment day?
Franklin Graham draws a huge salary, over $600K a year. Go to Charity Navigator to see what his current salary is. One one time he was drawing salaries from SP and BGEA. Stanley Rader would be jealous. Our group fills over 1800 Christmas Shoe Boxes but will not donate the suggested shipping fee with each box. Let Graham pay it out of his pocket. Greedy . . .
"All US right wing organisations pouring money into Europe to destabalize the Union"
The UN? or NATO? or did you mean the US cutting funding.
I meant dozens of american private organisations and ngo's supporting european right wing politics and ideology.
Couldn't you tell by my referring to Graham and WCG?
A couple of million dollars is not much in american politics but has enormous leverage in european politics.
I was not speaking about the american fascist nazi propaganda websites influencing northern european groups under constant scrutiny. I meant the less obvious ones like the decomissioned wcg and current different organisations aimed at the weak southern belly. (supporting populists like le pen, italian populists etc etc with straight political ideology or topics like anti abortion.
Dont joke another time with me or I'll give you the exact numbers per organization. As Ive spoken of wcg here numerous times, so I wont repeat that part of the cold war for now.
Nck
"american fascist nazi propaganda websites"????
Share some of the most extreme examples. I want to see for myself. Not joking either.
7:42
I will give you a few clues as publuc service since anonimy are nobodies to me. I do apologize in advance for not having been more precize by mentioning the dark web.
If it turns out you are a professional of some type either academic or intelligence. I might just take you into the heart of darkness.
For now a few clues.
https://hamodia.com/prime/the-dark-web-of-antisemitism/
Nck
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