RCG’s $500,000 Eyesore
Dear Members of The Restored Church of God,
Your fundraising efforts ARE making a difference!
God’s people have been so creative with how they raise funds for The Work, it brings a tear to Kenneth M. Orel’s eyes. Yes, even the Chicago Heavy has a soft spot when it comes to money.
What an inspiring show of faith and determination when senior citizens knit doilies to sell. Ladies create their own cookbooks. Some make jewelry. Congregations organize swap meets together. Do not forget about those lucrative garage sales.
If you searched between your couch cushions with a flashlight or combed the beach with a metal detector to help out during the August Loose Change Challenge, David C. Pack salutes you. Every penny helps grow The Work. But you better give more than a penny.
A mother of four daughters sold her children’s winter clothes and gave the funds to The Restored Church of God because she fully expected Jesus Christ to return during the Feast of Tabernacles as Pastor General David C. Pack said. In 2019. When winter rolled around, her fellow Canadian brethren collected their spare winter clothes and donated them to that family.
This same woman was expelled from RCG when she did not spend her third tithe assistance “appropriately.” She begged them to let her come back. Headquarters chose judgment over mercy and pressured the field minister to abide by their decision. Then she died of cancer.
Her name is Manon Chaisson and her daughters are delightful. Real lights in this world. This story illustrates the destructive “fruit” of what David C. Pack teaches.
Common is a “command of God” and all members are expected to give as much as possible to RCG so that the Work of God can continue to thrive. David C. Pack has taught in the past that reverse mortgages and taking out loans for the sake of giving more to RCG are "okay." Your salvation is tied to Common and members of RCG take it seriously. I certainly did.
We should acknowledge these other unsung heroes of “cheerful giving.”
· Those who “gave all” of their Common just before the imminent return of Jesus Christ on May 30th.
· Those who “gave all again” just before the imminent return of Jesus Christ on Pentecost, June 5th.
· Those who “gave all again even more” before the imminent return of Jesus Christ throughout July.
· Those who “gave all again even more again” before the imminent return of Jesus Christ throughout August.
All of that money is going exactly where you would expect it to.
Not really. But that sure sounds nice.
It would be unfair to acknowledge the faithless, greedy wretches who have been holding back their own money waiting to see if the Day of the Lord really occurs on the Feast of Trumpets later this month. Perhaps they are waiting to see if David C. Pack changes his tune. Again.
In early August, I received word from members of the Wadsworth community that RCG was selling their property at 799 Hartman Road for $269,900. At that time, I published the article, Is RCG Strapped For Cash? The offer on that house is still listed as “pending.”
After the article went live, I was notified of an even greater story that filled in the blanks. This has now been substantiated.
The big question: Did they WANT to sell the property or did they NEED to?
The answer: They NEEDED to.
The fruit of the membership’s generosity and tireless efforts have reaped a tangible reward. The Campus is now able to welcome a new addition to the RCG Family. No, not a future God being.
The Restored Church of God just purchased the property at 786 Akron Road for $500,000.
It was listed at $600,000 but Dave said, “Come on, man, we’re just a tiny little nonprofit. We can only afford a half-million dollars. Do you think money grows on brethren?”
How does a $500,000 house on Akron Road help RCG? How does a $500,000 house support the Work of God? Does this $500,000 house assist in preaching the gospel? How will all the brethren across the world benefit from this $500,000 house?
The single logic-rich answer is the same for all of these questions.
This house will be as useful as the horses are.
Since this is no turn-key property, do not let your fundraising efforts wax dull. There is still a lot of work yet to do! Be not weary with well-doing. After all, have you seen the exterior?
Yikes. The entire exterior will need to be replaced and that will not be for free.
The good news in all of this is that David C. Pack will no longer have to suffer an eyesore during his evening walks.
The property line is visible in aerial shots where the well-manicured Campus grass ends and 786 Akron Road overgrowth begins. That has been a thorn in the flesh of David C. Pack for years. That one sight was a source of constant irritation.
If only he could get those people to make the lawn and tree line look better, the Campus would be even more “millennial.” RCG even offered to the previous owner that they would maintain the grounds for free. That offer was rejected. Maybe just to spite them. Only they know for sure.
Dave wanted this house to get a more-perfect lawn and a more-pleasing tree line. That is all. Having a four-bedroom, four-bathroom house in the mix is just the cost of doing business.
Looking at that ugly line in the grass for years is enough to piss off anyone. Paying a half-million dollars seems like small potatoes compared to having that eyesore dealt with. Especially when it is funded by the sacrifices of brethren via bank loans.
Maybe in Dave’s mind having evenly cut grass all the way to the corners will help get members of The Restored Church of God closer to the Kingdom of God. Ha. He has never thought that.
For someone to claim they are God’s servant and then take the hard-earned and faithfully-given money of church members so he can have a trimmed lawn really takes gall to the level of spectacular. Maybe even craptacular.
The purchase of this property is a three-fold abomination.
First and foremost, it is solely a David C. Pack vanity project. He has coveted this property for years and the men close to him at Headquarters know it. Dave likes to “win” at all costs and having the previous owners accept a check from him is a feather in his cap.
Rest assured, he was the only one at Headquarters pushing for this deal. My poor friend Carl is probably losing sleep over the situation. Plenty of Tums are being passed around the Business and Accounting Office these days.
Secondly, it is a faithless and hypocritical act on the part of The Restored Church of God leadership. The bid for the house was placed on July 20, 2022.
What was going on in RCG right before this date? Well, I am glad you asked.
David C. Pack said this three days before The Restored Church of God put a bid on the property.
Part 382 – July 17, 2022
@ 09:38 …and I’m gonna tell you why I still believe that Jesus Christ may just be, in essence, hours away…brethren, you cannot change July 28th…about eleven and a half days from now.
He was teaching that Jesus Christ was “hours away” and that the Day of the Lord would occur on July 28. Eight days after the bid was placed.
David C. Pack did not believe what he was preaching. That should be one of the dozens of red flags for the members of RCG.
Thirdly and most importantly, to put a bid on a $500,000 property, you have to make sure you have the funds to cover it and secure the bank loan. Who did all of that? The brethren.
As of September 1, the property was listed on the M. C. Real Estate website for 78 days. Using a calendar and counting (as Dave can appreciate), you land on its listing on June 15.
Why does June 15 sound so familiar?
It was the day after a “Jesus Christ is returning” failure during the Ministerial Conference. You know, the one after May 15, May 30, and June 5 all also failed to produce anything of substance.
Here is another reason June 15 rings a bell. It is probably just a crazy coinkydink.
Part 378 – June 15, 2022
@ 30:57 But I would just say to all of God’s people, you know, you’re gonna hafta sell all.
@ 32:10 And God’s people around the world, I’m telling you, if you’re sitting on funds, don’t! You’re gonna lose it soon after, anyway. So, why not gain eternal life with it?
David C. Pack has often tied eternal salvation with Common even though the Bible never does. Some unbelieving skeptics may suggest that Common is “buying your way into heaven” which is a call-back to what the Catholic Church did for centuries.
He urged the brethren to give Common immediately so they could “gain eternal life.”
Where did that money go?
David C. Pack used Common and Pentecost offerings to buy a house.
Let that sink in.
When you connect the dots, the events look something like this:
· On May 28 during Part 371, David C. Pack pushes Common with Pentecost approaching so that he could pump up that Holy Day offering.
· On June 15 during Part 378, he pushes Common again while telling the brethren that Jesus Christ was returning soon and their salvation depended upon them taking action.
· On July 17, he tells the church that the Day of the Lord is July 28th and Jesus Christ was only “hours away.”
· On July 20, RCG submits a $500,000 offer on the 786 Akron Road property.
· On August 4, RCG puts the house at 799 Hartman Road up for sale at $269,900.
· On August 31, RCG begins work on the 786 Akron property after closing the deal.
Hopefully, that helps to put this house-purchasing situation in the "proper perspective."
The Restored Church of God is now revealed to be not as financially sound as Dave and the Enabler-in-Chief would have you believe. They have just exposed their precarious financial situation. They HAD to sell the Hartman house to purchase the Akron house. Period.
Not enough cash on hand. Not enough reserves under the mattress. Not enough “Scout’s honor” promises for the bank. They sacrificed one house for the sake of another.
David C. Pack has passed the Rubicon. This current development exposes that RCG has reached its purchasing power cap. The Campus expansion has come to an end.
Here are some reasonable scenarios. The bank could have told RCG:
“We will not give you any more loans unless you can provide more funds to cover the new property.”
Selling one house helps pay for the other.
“We will cover the purchase, but not extend the loan to cover the remodel and landscaping.”
Despite spending a half-million dollars, the house still needs a lot of remodeling inside and out. None of it is up to the current “RCG standard” and will take tens of thousands of dollars to do. So, they sell one entire house to fix up the other.
“You have maxed out your line of credit.”
RCG has to put more money down on the house than they would have liked and needed the Hartman house to decrease the loan amount. A hand-shake overlap was allowed so that the sold house did not need to close before the purchased house.
Or perhaps the pressure was internal.
“Mr. Pack, we cannot support that additional cost as an organization.”
Regardless of whether or not the decision was bank-dictated pressure or self-inflicted, the outcome is the same. They have reached their financial saturation point.
The walls of RCG are now set and fixed. They can only recede in the future. Or crumble depending upon how many more Common “big fish” they can land.
This cannot be good from a business standpoint. Try living on maxed credit cards, even with a great job, and see how much economic security that provides.
Ignoring the financial risks, Dave had to have it. What a prime example of how a wise steward handles God’s money.
How many of the brethren did Headquarters call privately and ask, “Hey, can you give a little extra?” The Common Task Force has been on high alert.
If this happened to you during July and early August, then congratulations on your new home. Okay, not YOUR new home.
For those interested in helping The Restored Church of God during these tough financial times, please consider donating and participating in “the blessing” of fundraising.
Increase your efforts, brethren. Look around your home. What can you sell? Gold, jewelry, memorabilia, artwork, furniture, or even clothes. There is still so much left to do for God’s Church at the end of the age.
Why did The Restored Church of God buy this $500,000 property?
To satisfy the arrogant covetousness of one man.
And because of your willingness to sacrifice, Dave does not have to.
Marc Cebrian
38 comments:
Dayum!!!!!!! Dave's gonna be spittin' tonight!
If I were an RCG member I would never give Dave another dime after this mess!
For those looking up the address:
Both on Zillow and the MC Real Estate website, the house closed and was removed from both sites yesterday, September 1. I checked in the morning and it was there. By the afternoon, it was gone.
The Media County records take 48-hours to update on the website. The current price listed is not the reflected RCG price of $500k. -- On Sunday or Monday, there will be a follow-up article with a bit more information and photos.
Dawn Blue will also need to update her GoogleDoc documentation once both houses finalize.
Excellent….!!!! A double dose of cowbell…my seventh day is complete
Could there be a RCG Tithe strike on the way?
If Dave is offended by a bright yellow truck in his parking lot, this monstrosity must have been a possible lead up to a psychotic break! It looks like run down houses during the depression in the Little Rascals' neighborhood. I like funky old stuff, shabby chic, and letting my wife run around the house in my old boxer shorts, but this does not even have the appeal of those.
Looks like tithes and common have a new money pit. But, how can you even have a Money Pit reunion when Leslie West has passed away???
Wasn't Dave Pack's son on here recently proclaiming that his dad was the least materialistic person he knows?
I guess threatening his membership that they will lose their material wealth and their eternal life if they don't lay all their money "at the apostle's feet" so that the last apostle on earth can use that gained material wealth to purchase a material possession for sum of $500,000 isn't materialistic?
And to be transacting such a material acquisition at the very end of this present age when there are only hours left when no material possessions will be needed, is the fruit of a very non-materialistic mind?
Oops I forgot, big Dave told us clear back in 2015 that all the house purchases would MAKE THE CHURCH MONEY. So it is all about the money.
Dave told the world that no one else knew the speed, intensity or timing of prophecy. Dave was right, no one else knew the speed, intensity or timing of acquiring tangible real estate in the very last micron of time except the prophetic wonder himself, David C Pack.
Shame on them, and a double shame on all who knew about this!
Dave buying houses while constantly teaching that Christ is returning next month or week is like HWA teaching 1975 while putting up his Auditorium about the same time.
The housing market is about to reset. Hope they don’t think they will profit off another house if they need to sell it to save their butts.
As a young boy, it was my job to clean the cellar every Sunday. One Sunday, I noticed that there was a Z on the basement wall, written in black shoe polish. I hadn't done it, and was quick to call my dad to the cellar to see it so that he'd know it wasn't me. Nobody fessed up. Somebody was obviously lying. One of my brothers suggested to my dad that perhaps Zorro had actually done it himself.
So, in that light, let me just speculate that perhaps Dave, in his date setting and simultaneous business transactions, was actually looking forward to showing the new property to Jesus.
Not a shabby shack. On top of that over 5 acres.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/786-Akron-Rd_Wadsworth_OH_44281_M33818-24008
Millionaire Dave has a good eye for real estate; he is in competition with the Chinese who are also furiously buying up Great Lakes real estate.
Only a Tithe-strike greater than the one that bought down the Tkaches can stop Millionaire Dave.
Dave does not actually believe any Jesus is returning Trumpets, soon or in his lifetime. It's the God-haunted part of his self centered and "that's me in the Bible" ego he can't give up.
This is nothing new. Pack & Flurry have no restraint when spending church funds. Jack Kessler pointed out that HWA thought the entire church fund was his own personal bank account & would take several thousand dollars with him to blow as "mad money" back during his supposed "trips to spread the gospel" back in the 70's & 80's. He also had a sizable chunk of change to take with him if he had to leave America in a hurry because he feared being indicted for his malfeasance. It just goes to prove absolute power corrupts absolutely.
marc how many houses on hartman do they own?
Will there be a new episode on this soon?
Come on Dave... show some leadership!
Sell one of your kidneys to show support for the cause!
Sundown Kid,
According to county records, they have three more
#038-17B-16-008 8421 HARTMAN RD, WADSWORTH, OH 44281
#038-17B-16-004 8377 HARTMAN RD, WADSWORTH, OH 44281
#040-20B-07-085 817 HARTMAN RD, WADSWORTH, OH 44281
Dawn Blue has all of this documented. It will need to be updated when the two properties are fully cleared on the Medina County website.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ADbclThg4MbgpnHecNmu9iAbCxuPE1sg2HHf93QgNY/edit?usp=sharing
Anonymous at September 3 @ 7:16am - New Episode of what?
Marc Cebrian said, "This cannot be good from a business standpoint". and later Marc said, "And because of your willingness to sacrifice, Dave does not have to".
MY COMMENT - In my mind, Dave Pack is operating a real estate investment business disguised and camouflaged as a tax-exempt Church.
What makes Dave Pack different from legitimate real estate investors is that typically, particularly in the early years of their investment business, the investor is highly levered, and the property down payments are THEIR OWN MONEY. A down payment of 10% on an undervalued property with a 90% loan to value to complete the transaction with 10% built in equity immediately yields the investor 100% rate of return. In Dave Pack's case, he uses NONE of his OWN personal money for down payments because all his money is actually held by the Church which he controls and obtained through tithes/Offerings and Common. Because he uses none of his own money, his rate of return is infinity (can't be calculated). It is the ultimate in the use of OPM - "Other peoples' money". He can keep his real estate investment business scheme masquerading as a tax-exempt Church going until his business cash flow dries up forcing him to liquidate property OR until the day he dies if it doesn't.
While there is nothing illegal about a Church owning property, Marc Cebrian's timeline that maps Dave Pack's failed "return of Christ" date statements to Dave Pack's real estate investment activities is in my mind quite condemning and demonstrates the fraudulent intent of Mr. Pack. Mr. Pack should hope his scheme is NEVER presented to a jury. ACOG tax cheat Ron Weinland immediately comes to my mind.
Dave Pack is a wolf dressed in wolf's clothing. That is how brain-dead members of the Restored Church of God must be. Thankfully, Marc wasn't brain dead and woke up to discover Pack's Church was nothing to what Dave Pack tried to represent itself to be.
Richard
Marc, I remember one time standing in Dave Pack's office for a gathering of the ministers when he pointed to his bookcase which was proudly displaying an early edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (worth a lot of money). I immediately thought to myself "why doesn't he sell this for common to help the work?" The answer is obvious - the elite never have to do what they preach that others should do. It's the same in our hypocritical country of America. Environmentalits won't let you have a gas powered car, but they'll fly around the world on jet planes all year round.
He might as well sell one. He sold his heart and ass to the devil already!
I have to admit, although the clodhopper is a terrible theologian, he has quite a knack for real estate!
i can definitely see the hartman houses as the ones to go. theyd be more palatable for outsiders to purchase and easier to give up internally as it relates to the compound?
are there any other properties on 261 they havent acquired yet? looking on a map this last joint is a big get.
and to the other guy who had an issue with my comments about materialism i stand by my comments. his life is pretty damn basic. hes not a guy to buy fancy watches or spend 1000 on a wallet or something. he likes a good meal out from time to time i guess? he has had some decent middle class houses but nothing fancy by any stretch of the imagination. not sure what they drive now but before a lincoln....mom had an accord. they probably have one car now if i had to guess? he used to brag about good deals on nice suits hed find and doesnt buy his shoes at rackroom but he isnt materialistic by the standards of most preachers in his position. hes not trying to impress anybody that way. id say he likes comfortable things more than luxury things in all cases. hes very average and does very average things. if i was wrong on this id love to have someone point it out im just speaking from the past.
but.....his entire existence and identity is based on this campus. before it was the work or "the truth" or whatever when they had the old office but once this property was purchased thats when it shifted. thats obvious and you could hear it in the messages too. like it was weird to watch honestly. but now this campus IS his work and quite frankjly the last remaining recruiting tool for convincing people that god is working there. the landscaping is an OCD thing specific to him but i think that was even something that came from his roots in pasadena back to college. landscaping and beauty or whatever is an anal wcg god thing. winning awards for college campus beauty was a thing back then so now its his thing today.
anyway.. for me....nice church buildings, manicured grounds and homes for staff im like whatevs honestly. my town has many church complexes that are far more impressive. to me this seems like a every church thing. whoever got the big fancy church must be more godly. somebody dies and a check comes in build a new wing. you get a great preacher and the tithes and offerirngs go up start a school. blah blah blah. where else does the money go if it isnt to a work.
i think the nature of the gates and seclusion is what kind of sets this apart as more odd. obviously the teachings are off the chain too so thats what draws the bullseye here for sure. but if RCG went mainstream and knocked down the gates i dont think the campus would be that big a deal. theres complexes like this all over the country and nobody bats an eye
that was a gift from his favorite uncle and a dear dear beloved man for me as well. uncle frank had been the #2 guy at brittanica for like 30 years so had some early editions when he passed.
i def would buy it if offered the chance. it aint like i expect to inherit it lmao.
I’m glad you and your wife got out Dan! I love hearing the stories of people who left a cult behind. I hope to tell mine someday.
I’d recommend Worldwide: The Unchosen Church podcast. Really great episodes. You may especially like the Kevin Denee one.
Would be fascinating if Dawn Blue or Marc could add another column to that spreadsheet: estimated market value for each property. This would be the amount that each property would probably sell for on the market today. Obviously there is some guesswork involved but sites like Zillow and Redfin have become a lot more accurate in their attempts at valuation, so perhaps you could just compile those numbers and place them into this spreadsheet.
Dave obviously does have some good qualities and strengths just as all of us do. But, it's like the old HWA saying: "It's not the thing that is bad or evil, but the use of the thing." There are many people who use their strengths and talents in ways that either intentionally or unintentionally hurt others.
Sundown Kid: "if i was wrong on this id love to have someone point it out im just speaking from the past"
You are right on most of your view and conclusions about Dave Pack. He is far too busy to be enveloped in general worldly pursuits of the fine things in life. Does that leave him innocent of being termed a materialist?
Dave Pack once said of HWA that he lived in abject poverty for over 30 years establishing the WCG. Dave Pack is different than HWA but equal in that they possess many talents. Dave would have amassed great wealth working in the general business world, I know it, he knows it and you know it.
The natural progression of men such as these is to make up for lost time in a big way - self worth enters the mind and their ultimate value is a considered thought.
Dave Pack once thought that the end of the age was a handful of years away while his church was renting a couple of floors of a business building in the suburban sprawl of Wadsworth. Salvation according to him was holding fast for a few more years to all that HWA taught.
Dave Pack then placed a bet upon himself and his church and the material pursuit of building the kingdom now began. With that initiated, the pursuit of monetary assets began and there was 2000 easy targets sitting right in front of him.
To create more leverage and build a state of awe, Dave Pack appropriated multiple biblical personalities and in his demand for "Common" he told his whole congregation that if they "want to play, they have to pay - it is no different in God’s Church than it is in the world."
Dave Pack used often the parable of the foolish rich man who in his abundance built bigger barns and was not rich towards God as an insistence that our monetary and asset wealth needed to be turned over to him.
Dave Pack in this housing transaction extracted an abundance intended for God and got for himself a bigger and better "barn". Pair that with his ongoing campus "play" and he continues to prove this is all a "worldly" pursuit and a worldly affair.
Is Dave Pack materialistic? Not for many many years, but the "proof" is in the progression.
I have always wondered which house Jesus would get when he "returns" to Wadsworth. Would he get the best, meaning Pack and the rest would be bumped down to the lesser dwellings? Or would he be expected to live in the gazebo or the picnic shelter and take care of business in the woods since that would be more in line with his prior experience? Maybe this new house solves the problem, RCG can leave it looking like a first century dwelling to make him feel more at home. Just a thought. The money saved could be spent actually spreading the "gospel", but on second thought Pack's gospel version has already spread too much. So go ahead and fix that ugly thing.
Wonder what will happen if the Hartman Rd home falls off before closing.
1.04
There's more to it. People tilt towards God's way or Satan's way. So in their old age, people are either responsible or evil. Dave is evil.
It is over. The end is upon Davie C Pack. It is closing in. The Jig is up. The fraud has been exposed. His little world in Wadsworth is disintegrating. Time to get a new career Davie C Pack. You have been proven time and time again that you are a false prophet! You are a fraud and a sham, a charlatan. Sell the horses and the Wadsworth compound. Your time is over Davie C Pack! You must now answer for all the harm and hurt you have caused!
Dave's ambitions are really quite modest. He doesn't want much land. Only what joins his.
"The answer is obvious - the elite never have to do what they preach that others should do. It's the same in our hypocritical country of America. Environmentalits won't let you have a gas powered car, but they'll fly around the world on jet planes all year round. "
That's because they're all working for the Father of Lies.
Is there a HWA shrine located on the Wadsworth compound?
Well.. There is a huge picture of HWA and Mrs. Armstrong...an Elijah's cup like HWA had and a widow's mite. dave tells HWA stories, such as he and his wife sitting at the table with one thin dime between them, all the money they had in the world! But changes the starring roles to dave and shirely...and a couple other stories... I think he is not only Elijah, King David, Joshua, etc, but also HWA!!!
Pack is like the Pharisees and Sadducees (Generation of Vipers). Beware of leaven/hypocrisy/doctrine of devils. "Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered". Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Read all of Mat 23. Nothing new under the Sun and Moon. These are the real anti-Messiah's (ANTI = AGAINST).
Isa 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Isa 61:2
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
Rom 10:15
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the "gospel"/good tiddings of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Marc, I believe you are doing a good thing here. May our Heavenly Father bless you. Doing more than you think.
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