Garner Ted Armstrong On Members Being "...shriveled-up, rotten, vile, filthy, sinning hulks of rotting human flesh..."

The following quote was made by Garner Ted Armstrong many years ago.  This is the kind of stuff that the ministry, from HWA, Meredith, Waterhouse and most others shoved down out throats week after week.

" you come to really SEE yourself as you ARE--as GOD sees you--as a self-centered, hostile, shriveled-up, rotten, vile, filthy, sinning hulk of rotting human flesh, unworthy to breathe the free air God gives you! "

Is it any wonder that so many in Armstrongism have been permanently scared by this kind of deviate beliefs?  Low self-esteem was rampant in the church and still is today.  What is a person to do when they are told what filthy they are week in and week out.  When the constant mantra is that "you at never good enough" what hope does a person see in life?  That's what lead Terry Ratzmann to murder Living Church of God members in church on Saturday.  It leads to horrific child and spousal abuse and much, much more.

There are Facebook groups, with combined total memberships into the thousands, that are filled with people who have suffered from this abuse and openly speak about it.  Yet the favorite mantra there and elsewhere from present day COGlet members is, 'Get over it."  How does one get over being treated like a pile of steaming shit their entire church life?  Why do so many present day COG member continue to let their ministurds tell them the same thing today?

Elijah Baghdad Dave Pack and His Difficulty In Leading By Example

It has been reported here and on other sites, including several Facebook sites, about Elijah Baghdad Pack's blatant hypocrisy in setting the example for his membership.  Elijah Baghdad Dave has been telling his members for many years now that everything that they own does NOT belong to them and them they need to sell it, mortgage it, or cash it in and send it to Elijah Baghdad Dave's HQ.  The broad majority of the membership did just that a few years ago.  Now, Elijah Baghdad Dave is doing it again.  He wants them to send them every penny that they can.

The question being asked now is "Will Elijah Baghdad Dave do the same?"  Elijah Baghdad Dave owns his home free and clear. Its in HIS name, not the Restored Church of God.

From a comment by Richard on a previous thread:

Thank you Ronco for doing the look up of the public land records on the title ownership of Pack's home. Then this indeed is scandalous on a couple of levels which is why I asked the question.

First, the obvious is that he is not following the example of God's end time Apostle Herbert Armstrong who owned nothing other than his suits, but controlled all WCG owned assets including his personal residence. To my knowledge, HWA's death did not probate a will because the WCG owned everything including his home.

Second, it is also obvious that Dave Pack is a hypocrite asking his members to mortgage homes and sell assets to fund "the work" of his RCG fear religion business. Dave does not lead by example and is unwilling to do what he threatens his membership with eternal damnation to do.

Third, and perhaps most telling regarding Pack's motives, is that his home titled in his own name would be insulated from any RCG bankruptcy proceedings should it occur. Unlike HWA, Pack has separated his home from the Church.

Not only does Elijah Baghdad Dave own his own home free and clear, many of the ministry do so as well.  Not a single one of them have mortgaged their homes.  They have not sold their homes either.  They also have not cashed in any retirement plans they have.  They keep every dime they earn when their sheeple below them struggle to survive.

Because Elijah Baghdad Dave has NEVER lead by example, what makes him think that hundreds if not thousands of COG members are out there waiting to jump ship to his superfantabulous personality cult?  Why would any COG  member, in their right mind, join up with Elijah Baghdad Dave?  No one can believe a  thing he says!

Gerald Flurry: Why Dancing A Jig On Friday Nights Is OK For His Grandchildren But Not For Regular Members

Those wild and crazy Irish dancing fun loving folk at the Philadelphia Church of God compound in Edmond Oklahoma have spent the last several years shoving Irish dance down the throats of its membership.  Church members who struggle to live a daily existence are watching in anger as the PCG elite (Flurry relatives) send their kids to expensive Irish dance lessons and competitions.  (See here, and here)  Flurry's grand-kids and other elite children have a royal dispensation from Flurry so they can compete on Friday nights, even though the membership is forbidden to do any such thing.

Flurry has several talented young men in his compound that are musicians whom he has been using to compose some of the most idiotic productions based upon Old Testament hero's imaginable.    In almost all of these productions Irish dance is included...as if these men danced such dances in their time period. They are incapable of producing anything about Jesus, but write musicals about OT prophets.

According to the following quote from a rabid Armstrongite who  feels Flurry has abandoned Herb's mantle to promote his own agendas, Lil' Stevie had to preach a sermon towards the end of the year telling the Edmond compound employees and members to stop whining about all the Irish dance.

These DRUNKARDS OF EPHRAIM (i.e., ministers who are of British descent) inside the Philadelphia Church of God have devoted themselves to “myths and endless genealogies.” With such devotion, they have promoted controversies among God’s people, one of which was the IRISH DANCE. This false doctrine which originated from the Druids has already put a BIG WEDGE among the members of the Philadelphia Church of God. As Evangelist Stephen Flurry noted in his December 2014 sermon titled, “Tip of the Iceberg,” He admonished the members in the PCG Headquarters Church in Edmond, Oklahoma about being deeply divided over the issue of the IRISH DANCE, wherein 50 percent of the membership does not agree with this type of dancing, that they are not setting a good example since they are the Headquarters Church.

One anonymous member from Edmond, Oklahoma has even noted that several of the PCG members in Edmond do not want to attend the musicals being produced in the Armstrong Auditorium. Commenting on the immaturity of a PCG Preaching Elder named Kirk Macdonald, this same member uttered:

“I’ve seen things like that here at HQs. It’s sickening! Church and the brethren should be a sanctuary. It’s not! There are so many social climbers! Even with the musicals, you should see how the actors and performers walk around at services, so much pride and vanity!“

The IRISH DANCING and musicals have produced nothing but PRIDE and VANITY among the actors and performers! For emphasis, as noticed by Stephen Flurry, it has created a BIG WEDGE among the PCG members in Edmond, Oklahoma. The Apostle Paul was right when he said that FALSE DOCTRINES such as IRISH DANCE will only “promote controversies rather than God’s work–which is by faith.” Stephen Flurry even added another controversy on top of that “ICEBERG” sermon, he basically told his son Jude not to worry about the Sabbath while they are in the midst of an IRISH DANCE elimination round competition on supposedly on a Friday. Jude had some hesitation to proceed because he might be called to perform during a Friday sunset. Look at how Stephen has degraded spiritually that he was not even ashamed of speaking about it in his sermon!

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