Dave Pack Continues To Troll His Members After Tammuz 15 Has Come And Gone With New Dates

Has Dave Pack been deliberately trolling his members and us all along? Never have we seen such a prophet with such an abysmal failure rate as we see in Dave today, well, maybe except for Bob Thiel, but that's another story.

Tammuz 15 has come and gone and like clockwork Dave told his faithful on Saturday there is a new date and time because everything is right on track!

Marc Cebrian posted this:

Dave set two dates during his landmark (heh heh) message yesterday.

Av 1 is The Day of the Lord, which begins after sunset on July 28, 2022. However, 10 days before that in Jerusalem is midday tomorrow.

Sunset tomorrow in Jerusalem is 7:45pm. Jerusalem is +7 hours ahead of Eastern Time, which means 12:45pm in Wadsworth on Monday, July 18th.

Set your phone alarm now to give you a 10-minute warning before nothing is going to happen.

Mark continues with this: 

With the Tammuz Cooking Table back on display, Dave was able to hold a straight face for 78-minutes explaining how correct he was even though Tammuz 15 (last Wednesday night) came and went without so much as his car alarm going off. 

 

@ 00:18 You have the picture. But, a short message and one that is truly eye opening is necessary. I spoke to all the ministers about what we’ll cover tonight and they know that we’re still right on time. I understand it’s the evening of July 16th and I still believe that the Day of the Lord is the night of July 28th.

Oh, come on. “Right on time” would have been last Wednesday night. Or July 3rd. Or Pentecost. Or May 30th. Or May 15th. Or the Days of Passover. Or any other time since Elul of 2013.

@ 01:55 I still believe all those things. Nothing’s changed. In fact, I have even a little bit of additional proof, fascinating things that we’ll cover real quickly that solidify that. Think of more proof of when everything starts.

You mean “more proof” supporting the stuff that already failed? 

 

At that exact moment, no one in the audience rose from their chair and walked out. 

 

My sympathy for those who choose to remain inside RCG is beginning to wane. Some are legitimately “trapped” there, but most are not. Everyone “gets what they deserve” until they leave. That certainly applies to me. I got what I deserved until March of 2021. Here we are in July of 2022 and the crazy train is still rolling on down the track with no sign or hint from David C. Pack that he will ever slow down on this or repent.

@ 09:34 I wanna illustrate some fascinating things and I’m gonna tell you why I still believe that Jesus Christ may just be, in essence, hours away. Not exactly hours, I’ll come and clarify that. But you can’t change, brethren, you cannot change you cannot change July 28th. The night of July 28th [Jerusalem time] which would be midday on Wednesday in about eleven and a half days from now. 

 

This was the Av 1 and then July 18th dates mentioned earlier.

@ 16:17 Now we’re gonna go over and look at an almost unbelievable mistranslation [in Ezekiel 7]…you’re almost not gonna believe the translators could’ve been so terribly wrong and how it affected my ability to figure out how the Day of the Lord comes. 

 

@ 20:37 For the longest time, I could not figure it out. And it has to do with a spectacular mistranslation. And it it also is gonna bleed in to helping you understand why we’re still right on track. 

 

This is standard procedure for Dave. Blame the translators and then cherry-pick a meaning that fits his new angle. He buys himself more time and then moves on. 

 

Morning does not mean “morning,” it means “crown” which is actually the Father. 

 

Look up Isaiah 28:5, Ezekiel 7:7 and 7:10. That is part of the big news of this message.
In order for this new fraud to work, Dave has to use a previous fraudulent teaching that the Lord of Hosts is the Father and NOT the Being which became Jesus Christ. That is the only way he can get this new theory to work.

There is a whole lot more posted on Marc's blog. Check it out here: David C. Pack Goes Trolling

Worldwide the Unchosen will feature Former COG Member Actress LaNisa Frederick

 

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 We have only four episodes left and you're due a little laughter with @lanisafrederick! LaNisa is a comedic actress with credits in The Goldbergs, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Young Sheldon. She is also working on developing a single-cam television comedy called Church Candy based on her experiences growing up in the WCG! She'll discuss what it was like to have one parent in the church and one outside of it and why #cults are not just a white people thing! Episode premieres on Wednesday! Photo credit: @kimnewmoney

Decades ago the church used to teach that when people left the church they would never be successful because God was no longer going to bless them. The endless stream of myths we were constantly accosted with is appalling in their sheer stupidity. It's great to see another success story from my old church area, Cincinnati, Ohio.

Originally from Cincinnati, Ohio, LaNisa Renee Frederick honed her craft in Chicago, working and training as an improv and sketch artist at Second City Chicago; and performing at the Tony Award-winning Victory Gardens Theatre, Goodman Theatre, and Steppenwolf. She is the co-creator of Hashtag Booked whose viral sketches have received acclaim from outlets including Forbes, Playbill, and Essence Magazine. A prolific voiceover artist, LaNisa has voiced video games, including and most notably "Syd" the first black woman to be a major playable character in Call of Duty. She is a recurring VO artist with several animations on outlets such as Dreamworks and Nickelodeon. She is a graduate of Loyola University Chicago and the University of Essex (England). And has also studied with Amy Morton and K. Todd Freeman at The School of Steppenwolf co-created by Jeff Perry.

Guest Column: Christian Nationalism in an Age of Reason

Christian Nationalism in an Age of Reason

Labeled, "Americas Stonehenge" by Georgia officials in order to draw tourism, instead, drew in the nutty imagination of Christian Nationalists ever quick to connect any and everything to Globalists, the Illuminati or insert what have you, that will inevitably lead to the rise of a Beast just before the return of Jesus. I know because I was one of them, exercising my internet sleuthing abilities-even going as far as visiting the site on my way to the Feast of Tabernacles one year.

Designed and paid for anonymously, the stones were put into place in 1980. Since then, the site has been vandalized many times but never to the point of bombing it successfully until now. At first glance, one could easily see why people would be concerned by the "suggestions" established on the stones to guide a new society, a sort of 10 commandments for a "great reset." After all, how could we possibly maintain the human population under 500 million when we are already 8 billion strong? Why, this could only mean one thing: the Beast of Revelation is planning on murdering over 7 billion people!

It is embarrassing when I think about how long I shut down my ability to reason when it came to my adherence to Armstrongism. It is little comfort that many cult experts assure us that people who get sucked into cults are not stupid. On the contrary, cults specifically set out to lure the wealthy, healthy, and educated and often succeed in filling their ranks with the nicest, most successful people in society.

While Armstrong actually lured the "weakest and basest things" throughout the 40's, 50's and 60's by way of radio, appealing largely to uneducated, poor, marginalized, and racist whites in the Appalachians, by the time of its epic prophecy failure of 1975, the cult had reached its peak. Scandals, followed by Herb's death, and an admission that his doctrines were wrong by a new administration, were the beginning of the end.

Now, attend any COG service and you will find 3rd and 4th generation cult members driving new cars, pursuing college degrees, holding successful careers, bragging on their investments, and propping up their ministerial fathers, grandfathers, and uncle's paychecks all to maintain the pleasant social club they grew up in and adore. They seem oblivious to their own church history and probably sense that it is better that way in order to maintain the fantasy. This is particularly true of COGWA stateside and they know it: the whitest, most affluent, AC alumni, country club COG that does everything in their power to stay under the radar and out of the crosshairs of Banned. (COGWA thanks God every night for Dave, Bob, Gerald, and his other brother Gerald)

But you will find very very few new members in any of the COGs across the board; proof their stale, outdated concept of "the Work" is an old and forgotten cheap trick unable to withstand the modern tree of knowledge called the internet. If the flailing churches of God were honest, they would admit that their new work has become siding with Evangelical Christian Nationalists. You can see hints of it in all of their publications.

On a positive note, Millenials and Gen Z don't seem interested in checking out of society like their pre-internet, cold war, Boomer parents and grandparents that prayed for the death of billions of humans in their lifetime. Instead, they want a place at the table to change it. Gen X ministers wringing their hands in anticipation of taking the reigns of COG corporations, know the writing is on the wall and they will need to change with the times or look for real jobs.

While it could be a good thing to see the churches of God bridge out of Armstrongism, it is not at all if they choose to jump in bed with QAnon Trump Republicans and the American Jesus. It was bad enough when Armstrongism sat on its hands and waited for a day that will never come BUT they are now on the precipice of deciding to link arms with religious terrorists hell-bent on enforcing (Modern American) Christianity down the throat of a Democracy that has no roots in Christianity. [Read, "The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is Un-American" by Andrew L. Seidel. Also read, "Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted A Faith and Fractured a Nation" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez.]

Armstrong rests on two pillars and is still what upholds the splinters to this day: Annual Holy Days and British Israelism. The annual holy days are the very framework on which the seductive social structure rests upon, keeping the brainwashed locked into a perpetual annual cycle. British Israelism (Racism) is what easily marries them to the Christian Nationalist movement. Take these pillars away and they no longer have any reason to exist.

That being said, I am personally confident that the young people in the churches of God will largely exit over time, not wanting to be part of any group or church that tells them that their non-white friends are inferior foreign invaders and their lgbtq friends are vile human waste. They are too connected and can see by their own experiences that the us-vs-them of religion, in general, is a toxic delusion.

It is my hope that all would find their way out of religion and into this grand age of reason depicted on the Georgia Guidestones. But if not, there is a Biblical Jesus socially acceptable to our times; one that focuses on the inherent value of all humans and are deserving of love. A Jesus that focuses people on serving the poor, the needy, the sick, the alien, and the outcast.

As for the first suggestion on the Guidestones to maintain a population under 500 million, it must be understood that the stones were put in place for people to rebuild civilization after the United States and the Soviet Union blew everyone up in a nuclear holocaust. Yes, people were really expecting that to be a soon reality in 1979. The Guidestones are not signaling a New World Order to destroy 90% of the earth's population. No, actually you will find that New World Order in the book of Revelation where Jesus kills billions of people and establishes a thousand years of peace. Just a side note, killing your enemies does usher in peace. Mao killed millions of Chinese and they have been enjoying peace ever since.

Christian Nationalism is the most dangerous ideology in America. Their willingness to participate in ushering in the book of Revelation was on display on January 6, 2021. I'm speaking to all you children and young adults in the churches of God (including my own children): Please, whatever you do, use the internet to learn the history of the cult you are in and use critical thinking as your guide. Don't be afraid to ask the hard questions: Who was HWA? Was HWA really an apostle? Is the Bible inerrant? Why are there thousands of opposing interpretations? Does the Bible present a coherent, unified narrative or are the writers themselves competing for prospective members? Are Yahweh and Jesus gods? Does God exist? Trust your human reasoning. It's safer than the "holy spirit" running your churches.

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