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The Bible Hymnal - How Can You Ever Forget How Bad Some It Really Was?
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Let's be fair. The CONCEPT of singing the Psalms instead of Protestant sappy stuff isn't a bad concept at all. It is Dwight Armstrong's execution of that concept that was, to be kind, wildly uneven. But let's give the man credit for "The Heavens God's Glory Do Declare" and a few other masterpieces. It's just a shame that his brother didn't edit more carefully and remove the many mediocre efforts that made it into the purple hymnal. And when we look at the output from Ross Jutsum and others whose stuff was added later to WCG and splinter hymnals, Dwight isn't alone in having produced some real stinkers.
Well hummm actually.......well rrrrrrrrrr............I enjoyed some of the hymns in the Bible Hymnal. We certainly did make a cheerful noise all singing together........didn't we? Didn't we...............anyone? Anyway that's my two cents worth. I don't really have any regrets about the hymnal and listening to these 'old' hymns is a piece of nostalgia for me. Oh and I can't sing. Jeez ya wouldn't wanta be within a few meters of me, let alone beside me at services lol.
I honestly never remember singing "The Heavens God's Glory Do Declare", at least in Pasadena. We were stuck with "Blest and Happy Is The Man" and "Oh, How Live I Thy Law", ad nauseam!
This was a pretty interesting video. Thanks for sharing. While I have long since rejected Armstrongism, there is something about many of those hymns which sticks in my head and which I rather enjoy hearing. It's hard to explain, or even to understand.
The one thing I wish the presenter had mentioned is how Dwight plagiarized several Protestant hymns, if I recall correctly from the Geneva Psalter. Many of the hymns credited to Dwight in the purple hymnal were not of his own creation.
As for Ross Justum, most of his stuff was terrible. Just positively awful. None of his hymns have stuck in my head the way some of Dwight's did.
Hearing those hymns again take me back to those good old Feast of Tabernacles days of the 70s and 80s. Gone but not forgotten as in all nostalgia. Thanks for the memory.
Let's face it : You've gotta be in a bad place in your life to be having a go at a church hymnal, that wasn't even complied by Herbert but his mild mannered, quiet living brother Dwight and his wife.
What harm do these hymns do to you? Why are you so bitter? Is the hymnal the issue or is the real issues deep within yourselves?
There are incredible stories behind the writing of many of the so-called Protestant hymns. It is why they are so sentimental, and actually, music is at its best when it speaks to the soul. It was not uncommon to see people holding back tears as we sung "God Be With You" as the close of the F/T.
The Armstrongs verbally trashed the classic hymns, just as they trashed other Christians. That's not a fruit of the Spirit, and it does not attract people to your church when you do it. Only ego-infested people who claim that their church is the only true church indulge in such talk.
Some of those hymns were quite good, including the ones not written by Dwight Armstrong. But some were rather tedious and boring. I am shocked that some COGs still use that old purple hymnal. At least UCG and COGWA have created their own hymnals which include some really good hymns, and also added some bad ones.
I think it would really help if all COGs created their own hymnals, but miss out the boring ones, and only use modern English, not archaic language. And for hymns in other languages, use their modern language terms.
There is a lot of beautiful church music outside the Churches Of God. The CGI hymnal has a far better selection of hymns than our dried out and pared down Living Church Of God hymn book. I tried to point this out but some of our LCG members here became quite upset. One guy here was frightened.
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Let's be fair. The CONCEPT of singing the Psalms instead of Protestant sappy stuff isn't a bad concept at all. It is Dwight Armstrong's execution of that concept that was, to be kind, wildly uneven. But let's give the man credit for "The Heavens God's Glory Do Declare" and a few other masterpieces. It's just a shame that his brother didn't edit more carefully and remove the many mediocre efforts that made it into the purple hymnal. And when we look at the output from Ross Jutsum and others whose stuff was added later to WCG and splinter hymnals, Dwight isn't alone in having produced some real stinkers.
Well hummm actually.......well rrrrrrrrrr............I enjoyed some of the hymns in the Bible Hymnal. We certainly did make a cheerful noise all singing together........didn't we? Didn't we...............anyone?
Anyway that's my two cents worth. I don't really have any regrets about the hymnal and listening to these 'old' hymns is a piece of nostalgia for me. Oh and I can't sing. Jeez ya wouldn't wanta be within a few meters of me, let alone beside me at services lol.
I honestly never remember singing "The Heavens God's Glory Do Declare", at least in Pasadena. We were stuck with "Blest and Happy Is The Man" and "Oh, How Live I Thy Law", ad nauseam!
This was a pretty interesting video. Thanks for sharing. While I have long since rejected Armstrongism, there is something about many of those hymns which sticks in my head and which I rather enjoy hearing. It's hard to explain, or even to understand.
The one thing I wish the presenter had mentioned is how Dwight plagiarized several Protestant hymns, if I recall correctly from the Geneva Psalter. Many of the hymns credited to Dwight in the purple hymnal were not of his own creation.
As for Ross Justum, most of his stuff was terrible. Just positively awful. None of his hymns have stuck in my head the way some of Dwight's did.
Hearing those hymns again take me back to those good old Feast of Tabernacles days of the 70s and 80s. Gone but not forgotten as in all nostalgia. Thanks for the memory.
Let's face it : You've gotta be in a bad place in your life to be having a go at a church hymnal, that wasn't even complied by Herbert but his mild mannered, quiet living brother Dwight and his wife.
What harm do these hymns do to you?
Why are you so bitter? Is the hymnal the issue or is the real issues deep within yourselves?
There are incredible stories behind the writing of many of the so-called Protestant hymns. It is why they are so sentimental, and actually, music is at its best when it speaks to the soul. It was not uncommon to see people holding back tears as we sung "God Be With You" as the close of the F/T.
The Armstrongs verbally trashed the classic hymns, just as they trashed other Christians. That's not a fruit of the Spirit, and it does not attract people to your church when you do it. Only ego-infested people who claim that their church is the only true church indulge in such talk.
Some of those hymns were quite good, including the ones not written by Dwight Armstrong. But some were rather tedious and boring. I am shocked that some COGs still use that old purple hymnal. At least UCG and COGWA have created their own hymnals which include some really good hymns, and also added some bad ones.
I think it would really help if all COGs created their own hymnals, but miss out the boring ones, and only use modern English, not archaic language. And for hymns in other languages, use their modern language terms.
All COG organisations did create their own hymnals.
Hymn preference are like many things in life, a matter of a person's own free choice.
I know someone who's making a project of adapting Dwight Armstrong hymns (or whatever their real origin) into classical music.
So far, there's an orchestral suite, several piano impromptus - and even a waltz.
There is a lot of beautiful church music outside the Churches Of God. The CGI hymnal has a far better selection of hymns than our dried out and pared down Living Church Of God hymn book. I tried to point this out but some of our LCG members here became quite upset. One guy here was frightened.
About 200 songs in that hymnal, we only sang about 10/15 of them. Over and over and over and over…
Can anything that Dwight Armstrong compare with It is Well with my Soul or Amazing Grace? Have any other churches pick up on any of his hymns?
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